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A-bloo-bloo-bloo unwatch this guy coz he kills things!!
11 years ago
I want to shout out my support to 
servo117. Why? Because he's being attacked for things he is legally entitled to do. Let's rewind a bit.
One of Servo's schemes is that he buys characters that are up for sale ("adoptables"), and then destroys them through vore. Now yes, that's a pretty mean thing to do, and artists are right to feel a bit, y'know, desolated that their heartfelt creations are being destroyed fetishistically. This is sort of like having someone come along to knock over a house of cards you very carefully erecte--
Who am I kidding? Of course it isn't fucking like that.
A lot of the adoptables up to post are sent off with the intention that the buyer owns them and is free to do whatever they wish. Granted, what Servo does is a bit...surreptitious. If he tells the artist that he intends to kill their sold character, they would likely decline his custom and find someone a little more loving to sell their character to.
But this is the internet. If you don't lay down in black and white that you don't want your characters to be degraded, abused, or killed, you should specify that in the terms. To use the above analogy, this is like giving someone your house of cards for $12 and getting angry when they punch it over. Yeah, it's a nice structure and you probably put a whole lot of care into it. But come on, it's not yours anymore.
If I were to buy a car, drive it home, and then whale on it with a crowbar, the dealership isn't going to sue or report me to the police, because I own the car. If it's a Gallardo, then probably a lot of love and passion went into the design and fabrication of it, but it's still my car and I'm still gonna whack the shit out of it if that is what I want to do, and Lamborghini will not stop me.
So what this is is not a "call-out" journal for getting Servo lynched, because I respect his legal right to do with his new things what he will, and with no conditions stating that he cannot do such things. I want to doff my hat to this guy. I don't exactly like what he's doing, and I'd probably be pissed if I poured my heart and soul into a character only to sell it to someone and hear they kill them off unceremoniously. But I didn't buy the adoptable, I didn't supply the adoptable, and my opinion in the matter is only that. The auctioneer gets their money, Servo gets food, the world keeps on spinning.
Finally, I want to make two non-specific call-outs. One salty-teared idiot compared this act to racial segregation. I won't write the whole quote out (I will paraphrase it because I like hovering close to the danger-zone). They likened the trade and subsequent destruction of scribbles on paper to the oppression of people of a different race. The mind boggles with stupid, and I hope they remember to close their mouth the next time they get in the shower so they don't drown like a turkey in the rain. This reeks of false equivalence, and completely downplays a great injustice that is still being propagated. And it is being compared to legally-traded material that is being masturbated to. That simultaneously downplays racism, and makes makes this non-issue more serious than it ever had a right to be.
The other person is one of possibly-countless others, who reported Servo to the admins. If these reports amount to anything other than a collective giggle around the FA admins, then it will prove Intelligent Design and the existence of God. That God exists, hates justice (He sets a hardcore precedent about this, mind), and worked tirelessly to create the biggest pile of losers and morons around.
Keep going, Servo117. We don't have to like what you do, but it is unjust to deny you your right to do this (unless the artist says specifically that the character is not to be defiled, at which point, yeah, you're kind of a dick and should be ashamed of yourself for violating a merchant contract) Just keep the money rolling out and you'll be doing nothing wrong.
And let the people making hateful call-out journals be banned because they are the only party violating the rules. Because I'm reporting each journal I see, and I encourage others to do the same.
(Edit:) Oh, this is great. The head moron who was leading the anti-Servo charge got suspended!!
I'm crying inside, you guys. Tears of joy and hilarity.
I swear on my still-beating heart that he said this to me: "raising awareness to an issue and insulting members is not against the rules, otherwise I'd be banned long ago. lol". Section 1, Item 2 would like to disagree with him. And seeing as he is suspended, it is apparently more convincing than his impotent rage.
Every so often, the stars align, and a cosmic beam strikes the earth. And from that spot grows the single stupidest vegetable to ever exist. And then it reproduces with spores and they all show similar stupidity.
Oh, I love furry drama. I so do.
(Edit:) This journal post by Samanthaweltzin describes the position far more levelheadedly and eloquently than I could. Give it a read.
servo117. Why? Because he's being attacked for things he is legally entitled to do. Let's rewind a bit.One of Servo's schemes is that he buys characters that are up for sale ("adoptables"), and then destroys them through vore. Now yes, that's a pretty mean thing to do, and artists are right to feel a bit, y'know, desolated that their heartfelt creations are being destroyed fetishistically. This is sort of like having someone come along to knock over a house of cards you very carefully erecte--
Who am I kidding? Of course it isn't fucking like that.
A lot of the adoptables up to post are sent off with the intention that the buyer owns them and is free to do whatever they wish. Granted, what Servo does is a bit...surreptitious. If he tells the artist that he intends to kill their sold character, they would likely decline his custom and find someone a little more loving to sell their character to.
But this is the internet. If you don't lay down in black and white that you don't want your characters to be degraded, abused, or killed, you should specify that in the terms. To use the above analogy, this is like giving someone your house of cards for $12 and getting angry when they punch it over. Yeah, it's a nice structure and you probably put a whole lot of care into it. But come on, it's not yours anymore.
If I were to buy a car, drive it home, and then whale on it with a crowbar, the dealership isn't going to sue or report me to the police, because I own the car. If it's a Gallardo, then probably a lot of love and passion went into the design and fabrication of it, but it's still my car and I'm still gonna whack the shit out of it if that is what I want to do, and Lamborghini will not stop me.
So what this is is not a "call-out" journal for getting Servo lynched, because I respect his legal right to do with his new things what he will, and with no conditions stating that he cannot do such things. I want to doff my hat to this guy. I don't exactly like what he's doing, and I'd probably be pissed if I poured my heart and soul into a character only to sell it to someone and hear they kill them off unceremoniously. But I didn't buy the adoptable, I didn't supply the adoptable, and my opinion in the matter is only that. The auctioneer gets their money, Servo gets food, the world keeps on spinning.
Finally, I want to make two non-specific call-outs. One salty-teared idiot compared this act to racial segregation. I won't write the whole quote out (I will paraphrase it because I like hovering close to the danger-zone). They likened the trade and subsequent destruction of scribbles on paper to the oppression of people of a different race. The mind boggles with stupid, and I hope they remember to close their mouth the next time they get in the shower so they don't drown like a turkey in the rain. This reeks of false equivalence, and completely downplays a great injustice that is still being propagated. And it is being compared to legally-traded material that is being masturbated to. That simultaneously downplays racism, and makes makes this non-issue more serious than it ever had a right to be.
The other person is one of possibly-countless others, who reported Servo to the admins. If these reports amount to anything other than a collective giggle around the FA admins, then it will prove Intelligent Design and the existence of God. That God exists, hates justice (He sets a hardcore precedent about this, mind), and worked tirelessly to create the biggest pile of losers and morons around.
Keep going, Servo117. We don't have to like what you do, but it is unjust to deny you your right to do this (unless the artist says specifically that the character is not to be defiled, at which point, yeah, you're kind of a dick and should be ashamed of yourself for violating a merchant contract) Just keep the money rolling out and you'll be doing nothing wrong.
And let the people making hateful call-out journals be banned because they are the only party violating the rules. Because I'm reporting each journal I see, and I encourage others to do the same.
(Edit:) Oh, this is great. The head moron who was leading the anti-Servo charge got suspended!!
I'm crying inside, you guys. Tears of joy and hilarity.
I swear on my still-beating heart that he said this to me: "raising awareness to an issue and insulting members is not against the rules, otherwise I'd be banned long ago. lol". Section 1, Item 2 would like to disagree with him. And seeing as he is suspended, it is apparently more convincing than his impotent rage.
Every so often, the stars align, and a cosmic beam strikes the earth. And from that spot grows the single stupidest vegetable to ever exist. And then it reproduces with spores and they all show similar stupidity.
Oh, I love furry drama. I so do.
(Edit:) This journal post by Samanthaweltzin describes the position far more levelheadedly and eloquently than I could. Give it a read.
I hate to say it, but I think it's the artist's fault for not doing research on who they're selling to. It only takes a click in the user's icon and a quick sweep of their page, recent submissions and journals to see what they're doing with said adoptables. I blame this one on that, actually. I do realize that he's maybe -not- directly telling who he's buying them from what he plans for them...but why should he? At the same time, the artist has every right to refuse to sell as well. Services are refused to customers all the time, so that's an option too.
Moving on, I admit I feel uncomfortable with Servo's actions, however, he is within his rights and not violating any of FA's rules. He's even mentioned he's been blocked from a few adoptable sellers, but he seems okay with that.
Next point...killing of created characters by their owners IS NOT a new thing. I've seen people 'kill off' their characters when they leave the fandom, or no longer wish to play the character again. I've seen people create characters who can come back from horrific deaths just so they can kill them -again-. I don't see why this is a huge omg outrage.
If anything, though, I want to slap the individual that likened this to racial oppression...it's nothing alike. It's art, and a fictional character vs. real world problems that people are -still- injured and killed over because bigots can't get over themselves. It's...a -very- poor comparison and shouldn't be done.
Final note...I don't really agree with the 'kill an adoptable' but I don't really -disagree- with it either. It's not my place to judge someone for something like that. I mean I got a good question then...how's it much different then vore art with fatal digestion of a 'random' made up on the spot character, one that belongs to no one? Short of money exchanging hands, I don't really see the difference, but people don't have problems with that...
And he had the gall to reply "raising awareness to an issue and insulting members is not against the rules, otherwise I'd be banned long ago. lol", which is what ultimately made me give up in trying to throw reason and logic at his stupid face.
This issue is one I think I'll enjoy discussing. Yes, Servo is a dick; and yes, he's obtaining service through deception (it is unmistakably likely that some artists will reject his custom if they knew he was going to do what he does with them). But at the same time, they're releasing a fictional (and heretofore non-existent) entity to someone for the exchange of money. You'd have to know that they're going to do what they will with it, and if you don't specify in the terms of the sale that you want this character to be treated a certain way, then those wishes are only going to seem like polite suggestions rather than stipulations. And that's only really if you're the merchant. This plebeian wasn't. He was a random individual who stumbled on Servo's eat-an-adoptable campaign and got salty over it. Couldn't really tell if his rage was ironic or self-righteous...
This is not really one of those "I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it" things, because Servo could be handling this situation much better. One of the crucial points was that he hides his intentions from the seller. While he's only getting a page with a drawing on it (and not, you know, a job at the NSA, or anything) and doesn't need a 300-word essay on what he's going to do with the character, he's very clearly not being pure about it. And yet, he is allowed to do this and until he violates an actual rule, there's nothing anyone can do to strong-arm him into stopping.
The merchants get their money, Servo gets his food, the world keeps spinning. Just as it should do.