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Any brainless sheep out there? =3
11 years ago
So I've been hearing from a couple of sources that some people are talking negatively behind the backs of me, my boyfriend and some of my friends. I don't know why, apparently we are super-interesting to talk about. Normally I've just been able to push it aside, but being confronted with it twice in a couple of months is getting annoying. And it's stuff that is based on rumors, not facts. I have a hunch of who is behind this, but I won't say who I think (know) it is.
So I guess people are calling us "popufurs" or something like that. After FWH I heard some people had problems with us having fun within our little group of friends and not sharing the fun with others. Our group of friends consists of people that know each other and trust each other very well, we'll support each other through thick and thin and I love those guys (you know who you are). Yeah we always have lots of fun when we are together, and we hang out with each other, even at events. We might get a bit loud and it may be scary to other people. Is it envy that people start talking behind our backs about this? We don't like to sit inside and stare at a laptop or tablet during the whole con, and instead we have fun...How about that...
It is also been said that we don't make enough efforts to get to know ALL the people at FWH, and to be honest, I don't want to know every single person!! I'm not a person that needs 150 acquaintances, instead I choose to have GOOD friends and a couple of super close friends. It takes enough effort to keep that contact with those people as it is. That doesn't mean I don't want to get to know new people and that you can't talk to me, I'm just saying I'm happy with the people I know. And I'll be happy to have a chat with whoever wants to talk and is social enough to have a normal conversation, who knows, something beautiful may grow out of it! And why aren't other people making effort to get to know us? We are not some group of untouchable people, you can come to us and talk. There has been several moments that I have separated myself from the group and sit with some other people, maybe I could have done that more, yeah, I'm not perfect, just like you. People that actually KNOW me, know that I'm a shy person, and it takes a lot of effort for me to start a conversation with someone that I don't know yet. It's a flaw in my personality, so what? You didn't come to me either, or is that different? It's very normal in a big group of people like the furry fandom, that groups are formed. In EVERY other social group it works this way, but in the furry fandom; DRAMA! Think about it, how many people at your work (considering you have a job) do you REALLY know, or really want to know for that matter? I bet you can count them on one hand.
And then there is a rumor that we only hang out with people that have awesome fursuits. Those people are just blind, ignorant and retarded, and the people who believe them without doing research are brainless sheep. Because if you look into the group of people that we hang out with, half of them don't even have suits. And on top of that some of them didn't have suits when we became friends. Yeah I admit, I like fursuits, I like talking about suits with others and yeah, I use fursuits as a conversation starter, evil huh? I didn't have a suit or commissioned a suit when I got to know my boyfriend, and look where are now...All I'm saying, don't believe everything you hear, this fandom is filled with socially undeveloped, envious people who don't have anything interesting to say about themselves, that they make themselves feel better by talking down on others...sad...
So instead of following people who talk negatively behind people's backs, come talk to use like a grownup. Or at least if you are a grownup, otherwise I can't blame you for being childish. You can always talk to me, send me a note, DM on twitter, whatever. If you have a problem with me, let me know, don't go spreading around rumors, because there are people dumb enough to believe them. I know it's easier to talk shit, but please be a f*cking adult, again, I'm not perfect! If I ever done you wrong or something, let me know, I'm grown up enough to apologize for something I have done, as long as it's reasonable! If you have a problem with me, my close friends, or any other person for that matter, GO TALK TO THAT PERSON! It's what a social, grown up person does. I would have less of a problem with all this shit if it were true! But it's all stuff that has been exaggerated or made up, just to make us look bad! Grow up and start living your own life! Stop focussing on what other people do and start making your own life better!
Lemme know what you guys think, and would also like to know if any of us has ever come up negatively in a conversation with us.
So I guess people are calling us "popufurs" or something like that. After FWH I heard some people had problems with us having fun within our little group of friends and not sharing the fun with others. Our group of friends consists of people that know each other and trust each other very well, we'll support each other through thick and thin and I love those guys (you know who you are). Yeah we always have lots of fun when we are together, and we hang out with each other, even at events. We might get a bit loud and it may be scary to other people. Is it envy that people start talking behind our backs about this? We don't like to sit inside and stare at a laptop or tablet during the whole con, and instead we have fun...How about that...
It is also been said that we don't make enough efforts to get to know ALL the people at FWH, and to be honest, I don't want to know every single person!! I'm not a person that needs 150 acquaintances, instead I choose to have GOOD friends and a couple of super close friends. It takes enough effort to keep that contact with those people as it is. That doesn't mean I don't want to get to know new people and that you can't talk to me, I'm just saying I'm happy with the people I know. And I'll be happy to have a chat with whoever wants to talk and is social enough to have a normal conversation, who knows, something beautiful may grow out of it! And why aren't other people making effort to get to know us? We are not some group of untouchable people, you can come to us and talk. There has been several moments that I have separated myself from the group and sit with some other people, maybe I could have done that more, yeah, I'm not perfect, just like you. People that actually KNOW me, know that I'm a shy person, and it takes a lot of effort for me to start a conversation with someone that I don't know yet. It's a flaw in my personality, so what? You didn't come to me either, or is that different? It's very normal in a big group of people like the furry fandom, that groups are formed. In EVERY other social group it works this way, but in the furry fandom; DRAMA! Think about it, how many people at your work (considering you have a job) do you REALLY know, or really want to know for that matter? I bet you can count them on one hand.
And then there is a rumor that we only hang out with people that have awesome fursuits. Those people are just blind, ignorant and retarded, and the people who believe them without doing research are brainless sheep. Because if you look into the group of people that we hang out with, half of them don't even have suits. And on top of that some of them didn't have suits when we became friends. Yeah I admit, I like fursuits, I like talking about suits with others and yeah, I use fursuits as a conversation starter, evil huh? I didn't have a suit or commissioned a suit when I got to know my boyfriend, and look where are now...All I'm saying, don't believe everything you hear, this fandom is filled with socially undeveloped, envious people who don't have anything interesting to say about themselves, that they make themselves feel better by talking down on others...sad...
So instead of following people who talk negatively behind people's backs, come talk to use like a grownup. Or at least if you are a grownup, otherwise I can't blame you for being childish. You can always talk to me, send me a note, DM on twitter, whatever. If you have a problem with me, let me know, don't go spreading around rumors, because there are people dumb enough to believe them. I know it's easier to talk shit, but please be a f*cking adult, again, I'm not perfect! If I ever done you wrong or something, let me know, I'm grown up enough to apologize for something I have done, as long as it's reasonable! If you have a problem with me, my close friends, or any other person for that matter, GO TALK TO THAT PERSON! It's what a social, grown up person does. I would have less of a problem with all this shit if it were true! But it's all stuff that has been exaggerated or made up, just to make us look bad! Grow up and start living your own life! Stop focussing on what other people do and start making your own life better!
Lemme know what you guys think, and would also like to know if any of us has ever come up negatively in a conversation with us.
Dunno... sometimes it feels like the unemployed hobo living off social benefits looking at those who made a lot of money, and who hate them for having that. At the same time, they are ignoring the fact that the richer person may have had (and still may have) a 16hr work day, and worked hard for years to get where he is now.
If you don't put effort into it, you won't achieve it. No matter whether it's wealth or friendship.
Looking forward to seeing you again :3
I don't have to say anything other and there's nothing to add to your opinion! :)
Dunno if this journal will make any difference, but I needed to get this off my chest
Sometimes, Words are more as anything other. If People have the Heart on the right side, they understand. :3
Y'know that saying? "Haters gonna hate". Maybe at least some will read it and think for a moment.
To all others; Like noodles said, Please don't be afraid to poke us or start a conversation with me, or our friends group! Our group might be a bit loud sometimes, but I think we are considered to be nice fluffs by most people. About the ''fursuit'' thingie.. It seems to look like we are in contact with furs that have a costume by a ''famous'' suit builder.. However, most of our group of friends got their suit AFTER we became friends.. Even though fursuits are a nice way to start a conversation about, I usually also look for other aspects that interest me, like an interesting introduction post on one of the social media websites or furry forums, or an mutual interest like electronics, cars or movies.
I have no idea why these rumors are spread... Please know that we don't have bad intentions..
Ace
It's a wonderful world we live in. :)
Well... were they expecting a large anthropomorphic wolf to be standing there all the time?
I think everyone kind of falls into their own little groups after a while - maybe 5 or 6 close friends that they'll always hang around with most during a con. Always open for new faces, but maybe seemingly unapproachable by those lacking in social skills. It's always the way.
I wouldn't worry about it - if they're saying things like that then it says more about them than it does about you.
And it's always tough to approach a group as an individual, but don't blame me for belonging to a group.
Thanks for the nice words *hugs*
Also, why should you feel bad about having fun within your group? I mean, if it doesn't disturb others it definately isn't your "job" to make it fun for other people as well, that's their "job" of having fun themselves.
It's you and your friends decision if you open up to others or stick together with the friends you know best - and cons/meets are always a place to get the chance to meet new people, BUT it's really hard to, mmm how to say this, "get the same closeness with strangers who you just met and the people whom you know for a long time already". It's the process of "getting to know each other better" that in the end makes some people stick more together with each other than for example random people that only have "being furry" in common.
Therefore, try not to let it bother you that much ... envy is sometimes the best way of flattery ... it's when rumors start to get nasty, then that crosses the line in my opinion.
So, just enjoy what you're doing and have fun :3 And who knows, maybe we get to know each other too in the future, I certainly wouldn't mind :3
And I guess you're right, don't have to let this bother me, but it's easier said then done.
And just say hi to me if you see me, just tell me your name and where you know me from ;)
And it will be better, just need to not let it bother me...
you are 100% right
- Ven the Wolf
but I'm one of those persons that has heared those things about your group.
I always have held it in the back of my head (sorry, so.. dutchisch to say that.. my english sucks).
But that's not the reason that I never wanted to met, like I said, never really had the chance.
I have learned to hear both sides of a story, it took me long to learn it, but since a couple of months I noticed that it helps.
A little example,
I've got the chance to go to stripmanifestatie Drachten.
I met a couple of furs I have never met before, but heared a lot of (negative & positive).
And I can say.. they were all very nice people to meet in reallife.
I think that's a problem too: most of those 'bad-thinking' people, or people who get that wrong informatien (me included, but I'm honest now), never met those 'popu-furs' before.
Via Internet, chat, Facebook, forums etc it's easier to get a bad vision about others.
But you have to meet people in real life before you can judge. That's what most people forget.
So, I hope this journal helps you and your friends.
And I hope we will meet sometime, somehow.
Because I always wanted to see your suit in reallife, he's really cute, hihi :)
good luck!
And yes, the opinions of us are just made solely by observing from afar, how we get along with each other etc.
And it's easier to just bash people from distance than to go through the process of getting to know someone and form an opinion by experience
Anyhooooo, I bet I'll see you around someday, and thanks for your comment =)
Don't forget to give me a hug when you see me in suit ;)
Well, maybe we see eachother on EF if you are going.
So maybe we can have a little chat there,
but like you, I'm a bit shy, so probably it will be a fursuit hug and then I'll sneek away :3 :')
I must honestly say, that I used to think like that... When I just came into the fandom I was surrounded by people saying, "Oh, look out for the popufurs!"
Not really knowing who you where and all, I figured you must be terrible people, because there was so much hate about you..
Later on I started to notice that part of it is just jealousy. 'they have more fun', 'they have better suits' etc..
Then I met the 2 sweetest guys ever, Rexy and Berion (: Maybe they told you about me maybe not..
But they eradicated everything that made me think you where nasty people.
even though there is this part in from (from the past I guess) that says, ugh they probebly wouldn't even like you.
I would love to meet you and the others that I haven't met yet, since berri and rexy are such sweeties, you are probably too ^^
Xx *hugs*
But yeah, if Rexy and Berion hang out with you, you must be awesome as well ;)
Later on I started to notice that part of it is just jealousy. 'they have more fun', 'they have better suits' etc.. This!
I bet we'll meet someday ;) You can see how much of an ass I am =P
or how much of an ass you got :3
Jk :P
I sure hope too ^^
Sometimes I feel a bit too shy to approach and talk to people who are in a group, also because I think it's rude to interrupt while someone is having a conversation. That being said, I'm happy I got to meet you at FWH, however briefly. Maybe some other time I'll get a chance to chat with you some more ^^
Besides, I LOVE your antics.
I support everything that you've said cause it's all too common these days.
I'll give you lots of hugs at EF regardless then those certain people will just explode onto colourful confetti from our cuteness! Ÿâý! XD
It happens all over the world. I
I have had people have a go at me for all sorts of things from getting hotel rooms that are huge so I can take all the popufurs away from everyone else room parties to (you will not believe this) a furry actually telling me not to be friends with someone because they get their photo taken to much !
People have miserable lives and are jealous that you have such an awesome one, Keep being awesome
There will always be jealous people I guess, need to avoid that negative crowd and have fun with awesome people!
Would be a lot easier if you can just disregard what other people think of you...
Haha but in all seriousness, people really need to stop making comments behind people's backs. Most of the time, it doesn't even matter what someone is upset about, but it's the lack of communication that hurts people's feelings and causes good people like yourself to feel like they're being demeaned.
Sorry these furs aren't being mature enough to talk to you directly and this is even happening in the first place.
Hehe, ahw well, it's not your fault the world consists of people like that...
Make internet cookies?
Give lotsa hugs?
Do adorable husky things?
And then they come to events and contrary to their expectation, they seem to be ignored by everyone.
It's hard not to feel a little disappointed, never mind that it's only beceause everyone else's attention is full.
I must admit this is true for me, too; there are a few groups of people I admire and really wish to be friends with, but of course... not all of them can accommodate.
I'm happy to say there are a few who, eventually, became some of my closest friends.
But I also sometimes fear that I might be letting people down, especially those who might not say anything.
People with social skills (A) will have lots of friends, and people with less social skills (B) will have problems to find them. And when B tries to get closer to A, B will look like a creeper/stalker/desperate and A will "reject" him. B will probably try again, making things worse, etc.. Not trying to defend any of the parts, but it's not only that B people can't make friends, but most of A people don't let others to "approach". And precisely because of that last thing I've felt like a B a lot of times. It's not easy to approach to somebody you like (because his/her art, his/her fursuit, etc) when you know he/she is going to "reject" you at first try. And at the same time doesn't feel ok suddenly receiving messages of somebody you don't know and he/she suddenly wanna become your friend..
It's like for example Twitter, when people always interact just with their little circle of friends, and anytime another person tries to participate (in reply-conversations in this case), they don't give a fuck. So umm how is supposed that guy to get to know new people?? (and I'm not talking of anybody in particular! in any case talking about me :P)
I have my own friends and like to make new ones but a simple helli and a quick chat is better when it comes to merting new people at cons, thats what I do anyways :)