(Re-posting) Don't hate your art!!!
11 years ago
As said by
teil
I have never really been able to understand why people hate their art so much.
I often come across people that truly detest what they've drawn and it hurts to hear how much they dislike what they see.
Yes. I have days where I'm disgruntled and know I can do better, but I don't... hate what I see.
So what I want to say is.
Try not to hate what you see, but look at it and see how far you've come. Look forward to how far you'll go.
Stop comparing yourself to other artists in a way that hurts you.
"They're so much better than me."
No, please don't think that...
You are an original artist as much as you are an original human being.
And with every human being, there is growth.
Your entire life is centered around growing and learning.
So don't give up. Don't hate what you see.
You are nothing like that artist you admire because you are your own artist, and you must learn your own path to greatness.
Some important comments on that journal:
Similarly to how some of us are either "I'M FUCKING GORGEOUS" or "OH MY FUCK HIDE ME HIDE ME I'M THE DEFINITION OF UGLY!", art is funny in working similarly. It's a vanity thing. Everyone has their idea of "perfect" and they want to attain it. (though it's impossible)
A LOT of people struggle to see what their own is worth because they're so fixated on what OTHER'S is worth, that they forget they have talent too.
Always keep your chin up, and your mind open. Art is subjective. It's work from your mind. Be proud of it. <3
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it really does make me feel hopeless when i see beautiful work like yours, sin. or :teaparties: ....because I feel like I'll never reach that level, and there will always be someone who's better than I am. But thank you for this journal <3
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what about turning it around and using their work as PROOF that one person behind a computer screen can do amazing beautiful things by themself? use that as evidence that it's possible to get that good.
'cause, hey, guess what? you're also just one person behind a computer screen!
and there are other people just getting started as artists who look at the cute stuff you make and go
'wow, I can't even draw a stick figure yet, how is that possible?!'
sharing art is weird like that
for example, I could never make the dolls and stuff that you can make!
I'm hopeless at sculpting and sewing - doesn't mean I'll never get good at it though uvu
I can just use people like you as inspiration
oh man yeah I agree with this so much ;;
it breaks my heart when people come into my streams or comment on my stuff like
'wow this is amazing I will never be this good I suck even though I practise'
like nooo nonono no no
like there is no such thing as practising enough in art
there's no such thing as an artist who is perfect and unsurpassable
people please stop setting your goals relative to other people
aim to improve relative to how good you were yesterday, or last year
pick up new media, or a new art program, or a new style
start drawing different animals or objects or scenery
if you don't like how you're drawing what you specialise in, go back to basics and be a newbie at something totally different. that way you don't have the expectations like 'oh I've been drawing dogs for so many years and I'm still no good'. because you're a newbie and you're ALLOWED to be terrible! then you can draw something new and be like 'welll it's ok but it's good to say I've barely ever drawn like this before!'
and it still counts as drawing practise.
so go do some life drawing, pixel art, stick figure animation, stippling, tattoo design caricatures, anime art, 3D rendering, sculpting or impressionism
and once you do eventually go back to your speciality, you'll probably have improved without even knowing it!
Some inspirational/useful links:
http://lateralaction.com/creativeblocks/ 20 creative blocks and how to break through them
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/ <-- Really useful page to learn to paint/draw and get inspiration from.
http://www.art-quotes.com/auth_sear.....php?authid=543 <-- Art quotes, like this one from Delacroix:
"A picture is nothing but a bridge between the soul of the artist and that of the spectator. "
And, my own process for you to enjoy (and laugh at, if you want):
3 years ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6284254/
2 years ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8659637/
2 years ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7443657/ (I was so proud of this one XD)
2 years ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8659637/
1 year ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9260114/
1 year ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10061783/
9 months ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/11640272/
7 months ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12246607/
17 days ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13775387/
Everyone can improve and be an artist, it just takes time, love and patience.
teil I have never really been able to understand why people hate their art so much.
I often come across people that truly detest what they've drawn and it hurts to hear how much they dislike what they see.
Yes. I have days where I'm disgruntled and know I can do better, but I don't... hate what I see.
So what I want to say is.
Try not to hate what you see, but look at it and see how far you've come. Look forward to how far you'll go.
Stop comparing yourself to other artists in a way that hurts you.
"They're so much better than me."
No, please don't think that...
You are an original artist as much as you are an original human being.
And with every human being, there is growth.
Your entire life is centered around growing and learning.
So don't give up. Don't hate what you see.
You are nothing like that artist you admire because you are your own artist, and you must learn your own path to greatness.
Some important comments on that journal:
Similarly to how some of us are either "I'M FUCKING GORGEOUS" or "OH MY FUCK HIDE ME HIDE ME I'M THE DEFINITION OF UGLY!", art is funny in working similarly. It's a vanity thing. Everyone has their idea of "perfect" and they want to attain it. (though it's impossible)
A LOT of people struggle to see what their own is worth because they're so fixated on what OTHER'S is worth, that they forget they have talent too.
Always keep your chin up, and your mind open. Art is subjective. It's work from your mind. Be proud of it. <3
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it really does make me feel hopeless when i see beautiful work like yours, sin. or :teaparties: ....because I feel like I'll never reach that level, and there will always be someone who's better than I am. But thank you for this journal <3
Reply:
what about turning it around and using their work as PROOF that one person behind a computer screen can do amazing beautiful things by themself? use that as evidence that it's possible to get that good.
'cause, hey, guess what? you're also just one person behind a computer screen!
and there are other people just getting started as artists who look at the cute stuff you make and go
'wow, I can't even draw a stick figure yet, how is that possible?!'
sharing art is weird like that
for example, I could never make the dolls and stuff that you can make!
I'm hopeless at sculpting and sewing - doesn't mean I'll never get good at it though uvu
I can just use people like you as inspiration
oh man yeah I agree with this so much ;;
it breaks my heart when people come into my streams or comment on my stuff like
'wow this is amazing I will never be this good I suck even though I practise'
like nooo nonono no no
like there is no such thing as practising enough in art
there's no such thing as an artist who is perfect and unsurpassable
people please stop setting your goals relative to other people
aim to improve relative to how good you were yesterday, or last year
pick up new media, or a new art program, or a new style
start drawing different animals or objects or scenery
if you don't like how you're drawing what you specialise in, go back to basics and be a newbie at something totally different. that way you don't have the expectations like 'oh I've been drawing dogs for so many years and I'm still no good'. because you're a newbie and you're ALLOWED to be terrible! then you can draw something new and be like 'welll it's ok but it's good to say I've barely ever drawn like this before!'
and it still counts as drawing practise.
so go do some life drawing, pixel art, stick figure animation, stippling, tattoo design caricatures, anime art, 3D rendering, sculpting or impressionism
and once you do eventually go back to your speciality, you'll probably have improved without even knowing it!
Some inspirational/useful links:
http://lateralaction.com/creativeblocks/ 20 creative blocks and how to break through them
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/ <-- Really useful page to learn to paint/draw and get inspiration from.
http://www.art-quotes.com/auth_sear.....php?authid=543 <-- Art quotes, like this one from Delacroix:
"A picture is nothing but a bridge between the soul of the artist and that of the spectator. "
And, my own process for you to enjoy (and laugh at, if you want):
3 years ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6284254/
2 years ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8659637/
2 years ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7443657/ (I was so proud of this one XD)
2 years ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8659637/
1 year ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9260114/
1 year ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10061783/
9 months ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/11640272/
7 months ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12246607/
17 days ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13775387/
Everyone can improve and be an artist, it just takes time, love and patience.
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We all have days when we fall back into the old habit, I have too.
It's the same about body image issues, love your art and you'll love developing it ^w^
Yo me tiro mucho para abajo y se que nunca voy a llegar al talento de tal o cual, pero no importa, porque disfruto haciendo mis dibujos y otra gente tambien parece disfrutarlos asi que con eso soy feliz.
Si querés y con el tiempo podés llegar al nivel de cualquiera y sobrepasarlo!!
Hacele caso a Delacroix: "One should not be too difficult. An artist should not treat himself like an enemy"
Be it programming, math, love, social abilities...
I believe it's more common for men to act this way, since it's hardwired into our brain that we are only what we build, what we make out of ourselves, and since we tend to rely more on cold logic and practical stuff, if we like something we aren't going to change it.
Just sharing the thoughts of what has drawn me out of depression more than once, and pretty much the reason why I'm still able to be here typing on this keyboard right now. Hate is a powerful emotion, if you take its reigns it can take you far.
By hating you're destroying, and destroying isn't good. Love pushes you to improve, not by means of jealousy or hating yourself, but by means of cooperation and loving to see you improve.
I dissagree with you in that self hate is more common in men, women are told since little that they are never enough (thin, fat, short, tall, etc) and that leads to self hating.
When you hate art it's detrimental because you start to hate the process, and then you don't want to do it anymore (we both know a really good artist that has almost stopped drawing, and I can assure you, self hate has a lot to do with that).
We ARE only what we do, what we build, what we want to be... That doesn't lead to self-hate.
It's good hate has taken you out of depression, now, let it go and love yourself... You'll be even happier I promise.
And I didn't say that women don't suffer from self-hate at all, in fact, wether it is by the frequency they demonstrate it or actual time having to deal with it, you often see a lot more women harming themselves or worse due to self-hate. I just said that I've personally observed men, compared to most or at least a vocal group of women, tend to drive self-hate into self-improvement instead of just wanting to stop doing what they're "doing wrong" just because they don't receive validation.
And this is where I believe the other method comes into play. When men see something "works" or what they do is liked, they tend to stick with it, in my case, it makes me lazy about stuff. Women like love and validation, and therefore (merely connecting dots now) when they found a source for that, they want to make it as big as possible driving themselves to improve on that. Which works for them :)
When I write code that does things ugly or in an improper way, I end up hating it and wanting to rewrite it. When I use a tool that doesn't do all I want, I modify it or scrap it to make place for a better one. When things are horribly bad and I blame myself for it I just learn from it, grow disgust of it and strive to do better. And it works. And it works for a lot of peers I've talked with about the subject. It might be one of the reasons why Comp Sci and Software Engineering have an overwhelming majority male workforce, but I guess that's more food for thought than anything XD.
Como yo lo veo, el odio es de por si una fuerza destructiva. Es un sentimiento negativo que requiere que toda la fuerza emocional de la persona se enfoque en lo malo. Si te odiaras a vos mismo realmente, no podrias seguir adelante. No querrías esforzarte por hacer nada en tu beneficio porque no pensarias que vale el esfuerzo. Si te odiaras a vos mismo no querrias vivir. Eso es odiarse a uno mismo.Es pensar que uno es la criatura más despreciable y aborresible del mundo y solo tener sentimientos de desprecio y autoflagelo.
Lo que vos planteas y que utilizás para seguir adelante, para resolver tus conflictos, es prestar atención a todo lo que no te gusta de tu persona y ver que podés hacer para cambiarlo, mejorarlo, o remplazarlo de manera positiva. Eso no es odio. Eso es quererse a uno mismo lo suficiente como para pensar que vale la pena estar vivo y esforzarse para mejorar. Es enfocarse en lo que hay que trabajar para llegar a ser querés ser. Eso es puro amor BoTuLox. El odio no es lo que te motiva. Es querer que desaparezca lo que te lo genera.
Y por último, y espero no aburrirte, quiero decir que las diferencias en como uno enfoca los problemas son inerentes a cada persona y no tienen que ver con la diferencia de género. Pensar que el género condiciona nuestra manera de enfrentar las emociones me parece que es retroceder un paso en todo lo que se ha trabajado por la igualdad. Lo digo como un pensamiento, no como una crítica.
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> Si te odiaras a vos mismo realmente, no podrias seguir adelante.
Ahí es dónde estamos en desacuerdo. No te voy a decir que no he llegado al extremismo de odiar mi existencia, porque he tenido esos momentos como creo que la mayoría de las personas en algún momento de su vida, pero es la misma herramienta que me llevó ahí que redirecciono como motivación. Y en esos momentos difíciles fue cuando lo vi desde un punto de vista tajante, si estoy pensando que no valgo una mierda, no me voy a quedar sentado y seguir siendo una mierda hasta que me mate de la depresión, no me voy a ir de este mundo sin siquiera poner esfuerzo en hacer valer mi existencia.
El vivir odiándose a sí mismo, con pensamientos de dañarte a ti mismo es un problema mental que tienes que atacar de forma acorde a tu situación, no es el odio el origen, es un síntoma.
La motivación de mejorarse a uno mismo puede nacer de varios lados, no sólo de quererte a vos mismo y por eso quieres mejorar, ese es un caso... yo comenté para dar mi experiencia y de mucha otra gente para el que no logre simpatizar con el post original. Eso es todo :)
Y en cuanto a los géneros, yo siento que no estemos de acuerdo, pero la naturaleza nos ha hechos diferentes a los hombres y a las mujeres. Cada sexo está más predispuesto a ciertos comportamientos y desarrollo lo que nos ha permitido evolucionar como especie, cosa que se ha comprobado con diversos estudios a lo largo del tiempo y se puede comprobar fácilmente en ciertos ámbitos de la vida hasta por accidente. Esto no signifique que los humanos no podamos escapar de estas predispociones o que estamos relegados a roles sexuales en vez de decidir que hacer con nuestras vidas, ya pasamos esa etapa meramente animal y somos los que forjamos nuestro destino; precisamente, es entendiendo nuestras diferencias y particularidades que podemos comprender mejor como "funcionamos" por dentro y cómo podemos manipular este funcionamiento para nuestro propio beneficio. TL;DR: Los hombres y las mujeres merecemos derechos iguales, pero somos diferentes y tenemos que aceptar nuestras diferencias para mejorarnos como seres inteligentes. Cómo resolvemos esto existiendo grupos extremistas machistas y feministas muy vocales en medio de gente que lucha por igualdad con diversos nombres... es un tema para otro journal XD.
Concuerdo con que hombres y mujeres somos diferentes, físicamente. No así emocional o cognitivamente y pueden haber 3000 estudios que lo comprueben, van a haber 3000 más que los tiren abajo. Así es la ciencia, no hay absolutos por suerte. Creo que esas respuestas comunes a muchas personas del mismo género responden a una socialización y costumbres heredadas culturalmente, de las que ya ni somos concientes a veces.
Estoy de acuerdo en que el odio es un síntoma y no una causa.
"no me voy a ir de este mundo sin siquiera poner esfuerzo en hacer valer mi existencia." Si pensás eso, ya creés que tu existencia es valiosa.
En la ciencia no hay absolutos, pero tampoco hay lo que describes. Si dos estudios se contradicen, uno o ambos están mal. En el caso de los estudios sobre comportamiento humano cuando uno se contradice al otro generalmente lo que fallan son las conclusiones, y por eso muchos pares de estudios parecen válidos pero las conclusiones que "desmienten" el uno al otro invalida a uno o a ambos de ellos.
Y siendo franco, creo que es un poco ciego negar que hay comportamientos que se manifiestan en la mayoría de las personas de un sexo que no existen o se manifiestan de forma diferente en el otro. El estrógeno se ha vinculado una y otra vez con una mayor sensibilidad emocional, y meramente decir que es predisposición social a un rol de género que las mujeres se manifiesten emocionalmente más seguido que los hombres es un salto lógico bastante grande. Del mismo modo, la falta de testosterona en hombres se ha vinculado con problemas de depresión e inestabilidad emocional.
Y en efecto nuestro cerebro está armado de forma distinta. En un estudio se comparó de una fuente grande de fotos de resonancias magnéticas y se pudo observar como los hombres tenemos una mayor cantidad de conexiones dentro de un hemisferio comparado con las que conectan ambos hemisferios, así como que las presentan exactamente lo opuesto. Se concluyó que esto indicaría una predisposición del hombre a tareas manuales y de coordinación, y en las mujeres una predisposición al estudio analítico e intuitivo de sus alrededores. Otras investigaciones han concluido que las mujeres son mejores en fluidez y memoria verbal, mientras que el hombre es mejor en percepción espacial y rotación mental de objetos. Todo esto tiene sentido aparente porque concuerda con como venimos evolucionando a lo largo de la historia de la humanidad para el beneficio de cada uno.
Pero esto no significa que debemos delegar tareas exclusivamente a un sexo, o de que un sexo sea incapaz de realizar la tarea que el otro -en promedio- realiza mejor, porque los humanos no somos una masa uniforme y va a haber mujeres con mejores capacidades de percepción espacial que muchos hombres y hombres con mejor habilidad verbal que muchas mujeres. En cualquier caso, yo soy un realista antes que un idealista; mi idea es que aceptemos nuestras diferencias y cómo somos cada uno de nosotros para aprovecharnos mejor como individuos en una sociedad con igualdad de derechos.
Finalmente, mi existencia se puede terminar y yo ni siquiera me voy a enterar del momento exacto, pero pensando en los que me han rodeado en la vida y en el potencial que tengo como todo ser humano, es que sigo adelante y sea con el sentimiento que sea, todos podemos tener una excusa para mejorarnos a nosotros mismos.
"va a haber mujeres con mejores capacidades de percepción espacial que muchos hombres y hombres con mejor habilidad verbal que muchas mujeres" Estas excepciones a la regla hacen que me sea muy dificil apoyar las generalidades. Pero ta, es un tema mio. Detesto las generalidades. Aceptar las diferencias como caracteristicas que no nos hacen superiores o inferiores, como bien planteas, es con lo que estoy de acuerdo. Pero diferencias como individuos, no en cuanto al genero. "fulano es más fuerte que mengana (no los hombres son más fuertes que las mujeres)" Mengano es peor en percepción espacial que sultana (no los hombres son peores en)" ...creo que se entiende lo que quiero decir. Para mi las escepciones destruyen la regla. Pero se que sos más adepto a la ciencia y yo no tanto. No soporto los axiomas.
Yo soy un completo idealista. La realidad la construye cada uno con la mente.
"pensando en los que me han rodeado en la vida y en el potencial que tengo como todo ser humano, es que sigo adelante" Ahí está tu motivación, no en el odio.
Las generalizaciones tienen su lado bueno y su lado malo. Por un lado no son perfectas, por otro lado, sí proveen una muy buena idea de ciertas cosas que nos permiten predecir el futuro con más precisión, entender lo que pasa hoy en día vinculando hechos, y comprender nuestros errores y aciertos pasados. Es por eso que hay que tratarlas como lo que son y usarlas bien.
Esa es mi motivación para seguir vivo... mi motivación para mejorar en algo cuando es en base al odio de mi actualidad va de la mano sólo de la segunda parte de esa cita :P