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Fall is rolling in, and we're overdue for a new banner. Far, FAR overdue! Thankfully, wintersnowolf has stepped in to help us usher the arrival of Autumn!
== UI Update
We are almost complete with our (incredibly not overdue) UI update which updates the site's look and feel to a more modern, clean look. It will also come with minor fixes for usability as well as improvements for our mobile users. We aim to enter into open beta early October. We had intended it for the final part of the Summer Update, but will are pushing it back to early October (and thus, will be dubbed the "Autumn Update!"). Duke Nukem was not available to comment on the update at this time.
http://www.furaffinity.net/img/submission_view.png
http://www.furaffinity.net/img/site_settings.png
Additional details will be available soon. The UI update will be an open beta - no sign ups are necessary! Also, please note that this is NOT the Phoenix Update. Phoenix (our open source site recode project) is still in the works, and progressing.
== Advertising Server Upgrade
We will be upgrading the advertising server to its own unique server within the next two weeks. We do not expect downtime for advertisers as we will be copying over the virtual server it is hosted on to the new system. The new server comes with a Xeon 1270v3, 32GB of RAM and 2X SSDs.
== New Advertising Banner & Price Increase
We are now offering the "Large" format ad banner size to users. This is a unique ad size which will only have FOUR OPEN SLOTS. Once filled, they will not be available for grabs until the campaigns expire. These ads will offer higher exposure, click yields and views!
Those without ad block know the Five Night at Freddy's ad has been in the slot for almost two weeks. In that time, it has generated 38 million impressions and over 35,000 unique clicks (you like Foxy, we know it!).
http://help.furaffinity.net/article.....vertising.html
We are raising the cost of our standard banner from $20 to $25. Since we introduced our ads in 2007, we have maintained the same price point. The costs are being raised for two reasons: To reduce the number of banners on the site (which, in turn, will help offer our advertisers more successful campaigns). Second, the additional money will go to cover new hardware, help upgrade our services (including offering "feature" and "bug bounties" for coding) and to cover the site's finances (hello, taxes!).
The cost increase for standard ad banners will go into effect October 1st, 2014.
wintersnowolf
wintersnowolf== UI Update
We are almost complete with our (incredibly not overdue) UI update which updates the site's look and feel to a more modern, clean look. It will also come with minor fixes for usability as well as improvements for our mobile users. We aim to enter into open beta early October. We had intended it for the final part of the Summer Update, but will are pushing it back to early October (and thus, will be dubbed the "Autumn Update!"). Duke Nukem was not available to comment on the update at this time.
http://www.furaffinity.net/img/submission_view.png
http://www.furaffinity.net/img/site_settings.png
Additional details will be available soon. The UI update will be an open beta - no sign ups are necessary! Also, please note that this is NOT the Phoenix Update. Phoenix (our open source site recode project) is still in the works, and progressing.
== Advertising Server Upgrade
We will be upgrading the advertising server to its own unique server within the next two weeks. We do not expect downtime for advertisers as we will be copying over the virtual server it is hosted on to the new system. The new server comes with a Xeon 1270v3, 32GB of RAM and 2X SSDs.
== New Advertising Banner & Price Increase
We are now offering the "Large" format ad banner size to users. This is a unique ad size which will only have FOUR OPEN SLOTS. Once filled, they will not be available for grabs until the campaigns expire. These ads will offer higher exposure, click yields and views!
Those without ad block know the Five Night at Freddy's ad has been in the slot for almost two weeks. In that time, it has generated 38 million impressions and over 35,000 unique clicks (you like Foxy, we know it!).
http://help.furaffinity.net/article.....vertising.html
We are raising the cost of our standard banner from $20 to $25. Since we introduced our ads in 2007, we have maintained the same price point. The costs are being raised for two reasons: To reduce the number of banners on the site (which, in turn, will help offer our advertisers more successful campaigns). Second, the additional money will go to cover new hardware, help upgrade our services (including offering "feature" and "bug bounties" for coding) and to cover the site's finances (hello, taxes!).
The cost increase for standard ad banners will go into effect October 1st, 2014.
Beta coming? Well. . .Hold on to your butts.FYI, a nice banner for the fall~
has to happen. . now.
Not sure what to think, But I doubt anyone will move because of this.
At least you're not following the "Youtube Style": we change everything without warning every two days XD
That always mean "we'll force everything down your throat and there's nothing you can do about it."
I for one hope that there's an option to keep using the old (current) ui instead of the new one if I don't like it, sort of like yahoo mail classic back when that was still around
not disappointed
By the way I wish you much more success to come!
Idk why people wont LISTEN to THOUSANDS of people SCREAMING about something we need but HEY LETS GIVE THEM SHIT THEY DON'T REALLY~ As loooong as it looks pretty!
X__X;
thissomuchthankyou.
I really don;t want to have to start using ad block here.
At least the vore sex toy one is gone for now....
Ehh, how would you go about it then? Ask every single user on FA about every banner in particular? xD
Just because 'Neer thinks its okay (as in allowing a sex toy ad in to sfw only ads) doesnt mean everyone wants to see it.
Which, I guess at this point doesnt matter as it seems highly likely I'll just need to block them all anyways LOL
I have an ad, and I use ad block. :P
I use to love finding artists through their ads, but the fast flashing ones make me sick, so I had to turn them off. D:
that was my concern as well
The submission looks a bit weird, though
Also can we get a price for the large 4-slot banner?
BATTLING DEMOOOOOOOOOONSSS
http://media.tumblr.com/03cd96faac6.....UJy1r4o70f.gif
why?
Though I am looking forward to some updates.
I feel like this has great potential.
I mean, you guys are designing it to look like a mobile app, not a webpage.
The UI looks alright, it's a bit cramped with all the letters and numbers being smoothed together
Trying to remain positive here
lol, Lets not forget about Half-Life 3.
It's not even a matter of impatience anymore. We were completely ignored.
That just makes me think of people acting like children. Go figure!
Now you're just being necessarily rude. :\
You were sending very mixed signals, the "Go Figure" kinda set up a red flag.
Apologies if I've rubbed you the wrong way here, I just don't understand what you were getting at without implying it at the very least.
I meant no offence, it just really looked like you were insulting the people who've been waiting MORE than very patiently.
The passive aggressive sarcasm is also unneeded. Idk why I bother though.
I don't see where any of what I said warranted such a rude response.
I'm not "choosing" to act in any sort of way, I too call out BS when I see it. So sorry if that offends you.
If you seriously got your jimmies rustled by this, sounds like you're the one who needs to reevaluate their actions.
And with that, I've no more to say.
Peace~
(haha.)
Phoenix is progressing but not yet ready for beta, I'm afraid. Sorry for the confusion.
My worst nightmare
I'm going from my own personal experiences, the experiences of others may vary significantly.
Plus the various levels of bordering and boxing make it easy to pick out where are. One of the things I loathe about most "Web 2.0" designs is the insistence on trying to be minimalist and "flat" in the design, it's not friendly to the disabled who happen to have a screen blown up to "pixels the size of televisions" level (when I run a magnifier -- on small screens, my current monitor is nice and big so I can get away with no mag --- 2x, 3x is my usual range, but sometimes I go higher when text is small).
Looking at the new UI layout further. I find the font... really isn't that great. It's really too light and airy, just... not really that great. The current font --- which I cannot for the life of me identify --- is really quite nice and legible. Hell, I think the current font is in a smaller size too, and its more readable. Also, is it just me or is the text colour a vague hint of grey? It's good contrast in the bold and larger size versions, but the reduction in contrast with the effects of ClearType/Anti-aliasing make the font... uncomfortable.
Then again, I also take issue to the fact the font is a sans serif; I'm very much a proponent of serif fonts, even though I know that they are less legible on a screen as compared to a sans font. (Garamond 4 lyfe!) But even so, I find Helvetica --- or if you're looking for the cheap and shitty substitute, Arial --- are very nice and accommodating, although I refuse to use anything but a Garamond (a real Garamond, not the shift MSFT includes for free, personally i prefer Adobe's Garamond Premier Pro) on printed text (with Futura as a nice contrasting sans). One font I've recently fallen in love with for applications in print and digitally that use smaller sized text is the lovely Bell Centennial family of fonts --- specifically designed for printing telephone directories at their usual microbial point size --- although some do find it a bit strange when they enlarge it. Monospaced I prefer Courier.
From my LaTeX typesetting experiences, I personally prefer the serif, sans, monospace combination of: Garamond, Futura, Courier. Garamond also goes well with Helvetica and Akzidenz Grotesk; and Futura is distinctive enough it works with fuckin' everything (so to does Helvetica...). Another font combo I've set text in is a lovely triumverate of fonts from the Linotype foundry: Palatino (serif), Optima (sans), and Letter Gothic (monospaced). Of course, there's also the default LaTeX fonts of Knuth's Computer Modern family, but those are very, very distinctive (in some places they're simply "the font(s) of science"), and probably wholly unsuitable for a website. Finally, there's the Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum fonts, both free, both complementary (the former a serif, the latter a sans), which have massive Unicode coverage, and look quite nice as well (I usually combine with a Courier for mono).
Blah, I just went on a long spiel on typography, which you probably didn't care for.
This one is much better, and much more colorful to my opinion.
stop opening up so many tabs to fap tohopefully that does fix it. :/ I'm able to open up as many tabs as both web browsers will allow on my phone, so it might just take some testing.But yeah, I've actually never had this problem on my phone and I've never heard of it from anyone else using theirs to view it. It sounds like it might actually be a problem with either your phone itself or whatever you're using to view the website. Not a problem here so sending a trouble ticket to them would do nothing as they have no idea where that problem would be coming from.
anyway I figured I'd give it a shot, just in case. Sending the ticket.. Ive never experienced this before on any website so I figured this website is the reason why it happens. The only one? Haha! I'm glad to be the one to bring a new problem to the site!
The only thing I can think of is that my phone Was bought in north korea and I live in Texas. The other thing is that my phone has been cut off for months and its ran on straight wifi only. Otherwise it'd be totally useless.
However I don't see how either would affect the Wi-Fi on my phone specifically on this website.
Now THAT'S weird. I can't think of anything that'd cause your wifi to just ragequit. Maybe it IS just FA...
Oh Sorry if I was rude in the last comment. I didn't mean to be.
The one in the sample above was impossible for me to navigate ;n;
Though I do like the new site look. :3 It looks hella neat imo.
(If they do add custom thumbnails for other thumbnail sizes, hopefully they'll also add a way to not show them, too.)
I heard it withered away along with FurryMUCK, and last time I checked, years ago, both were ghost towns.
Did that game ever actually update to 32-bit or whatever they were talking about? Or does it still look and act the same with just 50000000000 more digoes? How people are keeping that carcass afloat are beyond me.
That said, digging the colors and design, I think most elements flow quite nicely, and I'm looking forward to the update!
rofl
And so glad to hear things are actually progressing so smoothly! :D
Kudos to you FA, yay~
I love how the submission example is a photo that looks like it should be on Instagram.
LOLOLOLOL
And I'm sorry you think my photo is awful. =D
Heres my feedback: Defiantly not fond of the "how many total comments thing." More animistic type emoticons would be super cool! As for the font I don't find it that difficult to read but it may be harder for other people! :P
Overall I'm excited for this especially being able to utilize the new folders function! The only other thing I would suggest is being able to show images in comments and journals and such kinda like how they do it on DA but the pictures link back to the original submission when you click on them! Now thats something I'm sure lots of people would like to use! :)
But like have the options of ones that look more like your own species? That would be really cool IMO. I have always liked wolfhome's emoticons :3
I'm sorry, i just had to. :B
At least it will be coming within a short range... expectedly.
Though even with a force refresh I'm still seeing https://www.furaffinity.net/img/ban.....dark-heart.jpg as the banner. (Unless I log out, then it shows https://www.furaffinity.net/img/ban.....tersnowolf.jpg - until I log back in and it reverts to the old one again!)
how weird..
Also, the text looks too 'sharp,' is that just a visual thing with the browser used in the example?
Overall, I'm liking the design! I also like the highlighting feature and the ability to delete(?) comments, too.
loool
oh wait
JEEEEEEZ
(they are not lacking in volunteers though...)
I will believe it when I see it.
And instead of [Delete Comment] and [Hide Comment] which might as well be the same thing, how about [Delete Comment] and [Edit Comment]? I would LOVE an edit feature!
The top right area is a bit cramped, but I saw in an earlier reply about this that you're working on getting it spaced out.
Keep up the good work!
Editing comments would likely entail a pretty substantial change to site code, so I doubt that's something we're doing before Phoenix.
Glad to hear it could be a Phoenix option, though!
The beta for the site is looking good! Very sleek
And will the font be staying Xbox-hueg size? The gray-on-gray font color is also very hard to read and is extremely hard on the eyes. The font and its spacing, size, etc., are all just very bad.
I hope the advertising changes will also include more scrutinized checking of the ads before they are approved. There was one ad up for a while that had a blatant picture of a chick with semen on her face/a facial. It was disgusting and while I don't mind adult images, I don't want to see them without having to look for them. I'm surprised that somehow got past the approval stage. There were other ads up that I thought weren't allowed as well, such as panning images and whatnot. Why the devs don't seem to be following their own guidelines is beyond me, but not surprising given this site's history.
But a change in design won't distract me from my massive list of things I, and many other people, have great contempt for with FA.
So, I take it Dragoneer obviously didn't read my list?
I added a nice dark color scheme via browser addon and FA is perfect (layout wise) for me. Really hope we can choose new or old if it is put in...
We've talked. Also a really nice theme. :)
The only people that have any real power is other admins and popufurs that they love o so much.
I say stop worrying about a pretty layout when the way the site looks is just fine and instead focus on what is really wrong.
Like TT's, admin inconsistency, the harassment on this site, and all the images and journals that are never touched even when reported despite being
against the AUP and TOS.
Nope the bells and whistles of the site is more important.
The Default stylesheet is broken.
That feature is available on deviantArt and I really hope FA gets it sometime in the future. ^^
I also hope we will be able to edit comments as well!
or change our usernames??
Looks a bit rough but hopefully once it rolls around, itll look better. =)
I still like the FA layout. Is simple, but a really nice simple :)
no need to over load with java.
Let me illustrate with some examples. One user I follow is probably not named "Gerald," but I'll use that name for him. Gerald posts long journals that are sometimes interesting and that carry some things that interest me, and some that don't. But his paragraphing is not conducive to skimming for the interesting nuggets.
Under the current system, I glance at Gerald's journals and figure I'll get back to them later. Often, I don't. Then journals from other users pop up, and journals of Gerald's I'd otherwise delete are lost off the bottom of my notification page.
It's not just stuff with a high barrier to entry. Another user, "Edith," sometimes posts videos in her journals. If I have time, I watch the video once and then delete the journal. But again, stuff from other users pops up, and even if I watch the video later, I can't delete the original journal notification.
And what's the stuff that's pushing the other stuff down? Well, "Ricardo" posts commission prices and stream notifications in his journals... but quite often, his journals are not single-subject. I'd have to read each such journal to be sure there's not something extra. But I don't read all of Ricardo's commission/stream journals because I can't participate in every sale and stream.
However, if I go to a user's journal page, I can read all that user's new and old journals. Since it's not too difficult to find a particular old journal, a "delete notification" button on each individual journal would let me clear out journals while seeing what I'm clearing out.
And if, for each user's all-journal page, I saw a label on each journal entry saying that I do or don't have an old notification for that entry, I don't even have to check journals I don't remember de-notifying. I could see directly that I hadn't deleted a notification for that journal, read it right there, and then click through if I want to delete the notification. (Buttons on the all-journal page might be annoying, because I risk deleting the wrong notification. I already run that risk on my "new submissions" and "other notifications" pages.)
The font is too thin. It looks like you're using the "light" version of whatever it is, because despite being considerably larger than the current site's text, it's still harder to read. There are plenty of free sans-serif fonts out there to pick from, so... find a better one, I guess?
I can't help but notice that the screenshots are locked to an even narrower resolution than my (non-maximized) window. I hope it doesn't just stretch everything out to the full width of the window no matter how wide it is. Super-wide text boxes are really hard to read, and it seems like hardly any web designers know this, or care. I'm not saying you need to go full-on responsive design with it (although that would be nice) or, heaven forbid, just lock the whole site to a maximum width of 1200 or so, but setting a max width for comments and such would be a good idea.
Somehow the traditional letter codes for inbox stuff (J, S, TT, etc.) look even more awkward in this version; maybe it's the font again. This seems as good a time as any to recommend replacing them with icons from Font Awesome. Basically what they are is a custom embeddable font with common Wingding-like symbols optimized for Web sites. I happened to be working on a mockup of my own around the time the redesign was announced (out of boredom, mostly), and it used Font Awesome icons this way; here's what it looked like.
(Amazing what you can do with GM. Like these things: 1 2 3 4 (You can read about more of the things the script does if you look here.)
Still, even if it's just that, it does look slightly better, but needs a ton of refinement in my opinion.
I'll adjust. At least it's not changing every week like some other sites we all know.
But, as far as the ads go, you'll be getting some additional funds from me within the next few weeks : ) The last ad I ran was well worth the money and the minor bumps along the road were handled very well and very quickly. I, personally, had a really good experience (REALLY REALLY GOOD) and even with the increase I'll still be getting another ad.
I just can't say enough about the nice experience I had with it. Much better than FB or Google, I'll tell you that lol
that's...
okay. D; -flakes away-
I know it's been said that some of these things will be tweaked, just wanna put my two cents out there. I'm okay with change, if done well. Please don't disappoint me, FA <3
I am really hoping we can keep using the current layout - at least until you have a light option available for the new layout, and a font style that is more readable. The new font is extremely thin looking and very hard to read, even if I crank it up to 250 percent. The letters look like they're badly compressed together (bad kerning). FA is my favorite site. If the new font isn't fixed, or the background remains too dark, I won't really be able to use FA as I do now. It's not like I can simply go and get myself a new set of eyes. The layout of the current site is easy, intuitive and free of clutter. I honestly don't know how you can improve much on the current layout. I'd be concentrating mainly on the invisible things that can be fixed or improved upon. Things like folders, and improved database efficiency would surely make more users happy faster.
I don't mind change, as long as it remains as accessible to the variously disabled as the current site already is, and no features are lost. FA, in its current form, is the largest furry art site for a reason - it works far better than most of the other sites. It already has the easiest and most clutter-free design of any furry sites I've tried. DeviantArt and Weasyl are among the worst in terms of design or ease of use. I have to give Ink Bunny credit though. They designed a new interface, without messing things up for the disabled. They have different background choices, their fonts are readable and scale up and down in size fairly well, and I love that their custom thumbnails can thankfully be turned off. IB is proof the a new interface can work well. Weasyl is an example of how a new interface can be almost crippling to some users. DA is an overly complex disaster that FA should never imitate in any way or form! FWIW, the current FA works perfectly with my fonts set to 160 percent, which makes it perfect to read with my bad eyes. I sure hope the new FA can work well when a user's system fonts are at around that size. Current FA and IB actually work fairly well all the up to 200 percent. Weasyl, FurriesXtreme and DA all fail if the fonts are made even a little larger than default, meaning they are accessibility nightmares. The biggest problem to avoid is CSS defined text areas that don't expand to accommodate various font sizes that users might need to use. Bad design means text gets clipped or overlaps other text and page elements, when the size is increased. So, every part of the new layout should be tested with a range of fonts sizes to be sure it behaves well for large and small.
you should probably ask others opinion before you state that something is the worst of the best, aand/or state that it is your opinion that something is best or worst.
Also, FA is usually considerably faster than DA. If you want actual proof, instead of my opinion, just check out any website benchmark sites. For example, type the site names into alexa.com and compare the speed of each site.
How fast do they load?
FurAffinity is rated as very Fast (0.497 Seconds), 94% of other sites are slower.
InkBunny is rated as Fast (0.959 Seconds), 78% of other sites are slower.
Weasyl is rated as Average (1.526 Seconds), 55% of other sites are slower.
Twitter is rated as Average (1.621 Seconds), 52% of other sites are slower.
YouTube is rated as Fast (1.219 Seconds), 67% of other sites are slower.
DeviantArt is rated as Slow (2.206 Seconds), 64% of other sites are faster.
Facebook is rated as Slow (2.773 Seconds), 75% of other sites are faster.
Similar results can be found using other benchmark sites, but they're all fairly consistent with each other. FA and Ink Bunny seem to exchange places for which is the fastest furry site from month to month, while the others remain consistently slower.
Compare the number of scripts and other bloat on each site by looking at page sources from each. DA is bloated with tons of background scripts compared to sites like FA and IB. YT, FB and Twitter are far worse of course, due to their collective fetish for data-mining. Then there's Weasyl, the site with the those very tiny square thumbnails, where you can't have a hope of actually knowing what you'll be clicking to. And good luck using it if you have large system fonts to compensate for low vision. The site itself would be good, but it's pure disaster when it comes to being accessible to people with various disabilities.
If DA has the best look, layout and interface, as you say, and it definitely has a much larger user base, then why are you using this supposedly inferior site? After all, DA does have significantly more art than FA.
you say that most users can learn most of FA in a few hours, yet for me dA took a few MINUTES to learn because as you quote the letters and numbers in the top right denoting comments and such, with dA you can immediately figure out what the symbols mean, the speech bubble for comments, the little picture for anew submissions, the burning note for a hot topic. Yet again i do not understand how ANYTHING, much less dA, could take WEEKS to learn... WEEKS? are you really sure about that? i mean did you seriously think a few weeks i.e. a month is the time that is needed to figure out ANY site?
Good luck figuring out where everything is on DA though.
Most of it was very simple for me, therefore I still do not understand your trouble with this.
I personally do not care about the speed benchmark of aNY site as of right now, as I have a 5-year-old crappy Samsung netbook with 1gb ram and only a few MBs of space left on the tiny 210gb harddisk, so it is always slow, and when it does occasionally have a bit of a speed bump, i do not concentrate on how fast the sites are loading in fractions of a second, but instead enjoy that they are not taking minutes or hours to load. maybe when i get my new desktop built and have real speed OTI 24/7 i will start to notice it more and care, but probably not, as I live my life off the internet mostly.
Again, talking about the benchmarks, i do not use inkbunny, only FA, and do not as of now plan on changing that.
Again, you are talking about scripts, granted I know what you are talking about, the effects of each, etc, but to me it does not matter as much as the look and feel of the sites, how well people like them, how well everything that is shown on the site is displayed, etc; and though YT and Twitter and such have that popular "Rounded" look, they look like crap (to me). FA (again, to me) looks very outdated in terms of look, and DA has the best mix off everything, and the scripts for everything seen to work just fine on my crap netbook.
If DA has the best look, layout and interface, as you say, and it definitely has a much larger user base, then why are you using this supposedly inferior site? After all, DA does have significantly more art than FA.
Again, as i have said, this is the opinion of ME specifically, as well as the opinion of some friends i have talked to, i am not saying that it is firmly better and no one can argue, the can, you are, and i applaud you for that, but i never said or hinted at (that I know of) that this site is inferior, all i said is that I like DA better than FA, and i use both for different reasons: I put my non-furry art on dA, and have my real name listed on there so my non-furry friends can see my art; here on FA, i will NEVER reveal my full or actual name, and i only put furry art here, now granted i mean clean art, as this is a clean account, butt i have non-furry friends that are still haters (it's complicated, if you want to know, note me), and therefore will not know about this account unless i choose to reveal it to them. So you see, I use this site because i DO like it, and I like that they are changing it up to make it look newer, and I think that the newer look is better.
I PERSONALLY HAVE THAT AS MY OPINION. i am not saying that the newer look will suddenly make THIS the best site on the internet. It won't. Personally IMO, the best site on the internet is Grooveshark.
Do ya wanna know why dA has so much more art than FA? it's because furries make up only a fraction of all the users and fandoms on there, therefore there will me much more art composed and uploaded daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly.
I also don't care that some sites take fractions of a second longer to load than others, but DA usually takes about to 15 to 30 of seconds to load per page for me, while most other sites are fully loaded anywhere from instantly to perhaps 5 seconds. FA and IB usually load submission pages in about a second for me, while DA generally takes 20 times longer to do the same thing. That's not a fractions of a second difference!
I will admit that the scripts on DA do work without breaking anything, but they do slow it down a lot. That's a big reason why my activity is here instead of there. The other is simply not being able to find things as easily, and that it doesn't work as well with my large system fonts. If I turn javascript off on DA, it suddenly loads fast, but too many things don't work that way. It also seems to work better better and faster using IE, but I prefer to use Firefox instead. Firefox works better for me than IE on most other sites. Weasyl is another one that seems to favor IE, but gives me too much trouble using Chrome or Firefox. FA and IB work in all of them equally well though.
I know that furry is only a small fraction of the art on DA. I'm guessing maybe only 5 or 10 percent. If non-furry art is important to someone, then DA might be the best option for that.
I never heard of Grooveshark until you mentioned it. I'm looking at it now, and decided to sign up. It seems to work well for me, and is pretty tolerant of my large fonts too. I can see this one becoming addictive.
I do not know what FWIW means, but I have no argument about the 3 sites you listed, in fact i have used Amazon and eBay for years, but the layout, well i can not really think of that big a difference.
Well you see i did not know that, and again can not say anything about it, as dA, like aany of the many other pages i visit takes anywhere from a few seconds (hardly ever) to minutes to load, with no discrimination in time that it takes to load (unless I have too many tabs on, then whatever site i load takes longer)
I will say that that is fair, and to each their own, although i can find what i need reasonably enough, i seem to have just as much trouble as on any other site, unless i am missing your meaning of "finding things" at this point, do you mean something different than searching around? But again, you say you use firefox, but everything works fine for me and i use chrome (IE takes over an hour to come up when I click on it, firefox takes between 35-45 mins, and GChrome takes about 10-20 minutes, and is fastest on the internet on my computer, so I am biased towards it)
Non-furry art as well as regular art is indeed very important to me, as I am trying to improve my art skills, yet i still suck at organic forms, but straighter lines and corners are easy for me, and I don't recall many of these on furries! XD, so I still use my dA to upload my non-fur art, show things to my non-fur friends, as well as upload pictures that I want people to see and of course enjoy journals and such of the other users.
Really? I'm glad I show someone else to Grooveshark, and even better made you want to sign up! it definitely does work very well, and I think it has the best look of all the sites that I go to, the mobile app looks great, and of course it's free!
I can see this one becoming addictive.
a-heh XD Good! I'm really glad you like it so much, as not many people seem to know about Grooveshark, and it's such a great side, i think it deserves to be more well known, and have more users!
Hey go ahead and follow me on there, i'll follow you back and can help you around the site and get used to it and all of it's features quicker! Search for Dan, my profile pic is the metal horns inside the headphones :) (i'll note you a link.)
About five years ago, it actually worked better, then they did an update the broke the fonts for me. I mentioned it to them, but they never did fix the problem. That makes using the site a lot harder than it might otherwise be, unless I can someone grow a set of better eyes and stop needing to rely on large fonts.
Most sites load quite fast for me. DA, FurriesXtreme, Verizon and Facebook all take much longer than average here. Verizon can take several minutes to bring up a single page. Thankfully, DA isn't that bad, but it has never loaded a page as fast as most sites that I use. It could be said that DA is serving a lot more people than FA, so it will be a lot slower, but sites like Amazon and eBay serve tens of millions of people, yet load very fast. I figure they have more resources than art sites would have though.
I've browsed around Grooveshark quite a bit today, finding and playing things I'd never heard before. It's a little weak on some of the demented and weird music I look for, but it came up with lots that I didn't know about. Of course, I can't download without paying, but the listening works well. I like that it remembers when I leave and come back, so I don't need to go looking again.
My favorite music sites are madmusic.com and thefump.com. I think Grooveshark has a better system for online listening, while the two I mention cater more to the type of music I prefer. I wish I could have the best of all of those on one site.
Just thought I'd toss that in there. Probably the 9000th person but I'm not prepared to scan every comment.
Also, I look forward to the update. It looks wonderful so far.
Nobody's PC has a vertical screen. If they want a vertical-oriented site, they can use the whole "mobile site version" thing everyone else does. (but for some reason they all ignore the fact that the non-mobile one is going to be viewed on wide screens >_>)
Multiple pages for comments so they dont take a year and a half to load?
Just ideas
Which year?
*scnr*
Also, you have some cute characters on both of your accounts. ^_^
Also it means that people can go through them and decide which ones they may want to individually block using adblock because they don't feel its appropriate. (I have adblock and disable it on fA)
As some are asking can we get a ETA on folders?
Also yes! Disabled adblock on FA because I actually found really cool people to watch via the banners. Although I can admit that even though they have to be sfw they can still have mention of content that can make other people uncomfortable, so blocking individual ads seems cool to me. :U
and jesus yes pretty much the number one thing I think about when it comes to improving FA is folders, especially when you're more of a variety artist.
I was all excited for this update to FINALLY be coming after all these years, but now I feel kind of disappointed as it really doesn't look much different from the current layout.
Ohwell new can be better so bring it on, haha.
Looks really sweet otherwise, though
3/10
New site appears to be grey, do we get more colors/styles to choose from or is the grey the new look for all? I'll miss the blue /green dark style if so.
256 images per page will be cool =)
What will be the improvements for mobile users you mentioned? Are they a visible thing or more stability/smoother operation and interfacing?
Thanks for the update on updates
Cheers
And the price change for banners sounds reasonable, it is a good deal still.
But the increase seems totally fair anyway, since most artists I see can usually double it if they take commissions (and price themselves well!)
But I can admit that it is sleek and cool. After all the facebook, deviantart and tumblr updates I've survived I'm pretty sure I can transition into this one pretty smoothly.
That actually really sucks that they're going to change the layout. I really enjoy the fact that FA is still easy to use and I hate what most other websites have become. These new "sleek and modern" web pages are not very logical and I have having to navigate around to multiple pages using stupid hidden buttons on drop down menus and whatnot. Hell, even the browsers themselves are all becoming like this now. I understand it's all fine and dandy for people who use a whole bunch of mobile devices, but hey that's why a lot of sites have mobile versions. Websites need to stop ruining it for everyone who still uses the internet on an actual computer. I know, crazy concept these days *rolls eyes*
I guess I understand though we need to make the entire internet more up to date to keep all the technology obsessed 16 year olds happy.
Here is the github repository for Phoenix: https://github.com/FurAffinity/phoenix
And here is FA's general repo: https://github.com/FurAffinity
Exclamation mark and period? Why you gotta hurt me like this? T_T
Well, I guess we could try it. Thanks. Good luck to you on your banner.
I had the downtime notice on screen until this came up because cookies are deleted when i close the browser.
furaffinity.net##div#news
However, If you still want to get site updates, you have to watch Fender.
Also a bit confuzed about the second part of your comment...
One thing that I think that you guys should DEFINITELY add is an edit function for the comments for those of us that sometimes accidentally send notes too early, or feel we need to add something to a comment or edit some word that may be misspelled, etc.
I think also you guys should add a save/draft function to the notes system, in case we ever need to save, exit, and finish a note later, and also improve the look, feel, and navigation of the upper left comment/submission/note/fav/journal/etc bar and the look and feel of the drop down FA account setting menu.
One personal thing that I think would be cool, is if you guys added some type of IM/chat function so that people could privately chat with a friend/friends without having to go through the notes system, but that may just be me thinking that.
Is this the sequel to FIVE nights at freddy's?
xD
Had any thought about adding in comment editing? =o
It'd be nice for some of us who make major typos a lot. xD
I have made many typos before and sometimes typos can be misunderstood.
That's why its a good idea to resend the message to make sure the person understands what you're saying.
Who here thinks that the October banner should be Five Nights At Freddy's themed for Halloween?
Seriously, this game is one of the scariest damn things to come out of anyone's imagination in a long time and it has taken the gaming community, horror community, furry community, and who knows how many other communities by storm. Already, there are people making fur suits based on characters from the game, OR altering their own suits to become spooky, creepy, horrific animatronic versions. Given that this thing is so freaking scary, I think that the October Banner this site needs, nay, DESERVES, is a FNAF themed October banner.
I'm envisioning something with Fender in the role of Mike Schmidt, looking nervously at his little security camera screen, sweating bullets, while a horrifying Rednef animatronic looms behind him.
Creepy. Awesome. And the site has already been advertising the game for weeks now, (which makes me wonder if game creator Scott Cawthon actually went to the admins and set that ad up?) so why not go all the way and make one the official October banner? It seems like a perfect fit to me.
So, all those for a Five Nights At Freddy's themed October banner for the site raise an appendage and say "AYE!"
(Or, for those Foxy enthusiasts and in recognition of today being Talk Like A Pirate Day: "ARRRR!")
Seriously, the game was just a buncha jump scares and clicking that you'd see in pretty much every single drama or horror movie/game ever. The hype this game has is unbelievable; why it is so immensely popular I have no freaking idea, especially since so many other horror games have done it WAY better.
It's probably due to the detachment people have when acting through an online persona. You can see this in any furry chat room; if you don't talk to that person like he's an actual half-dragon wolf angel murring and purring in a literal room with other anthros, they'll get uncomfortable or offended by you insistently addressing them as the person they really are behind the keyboard.
There are some major kerning and leading issues with the text though, mainly the Nav bar up the top. Maybe a bolder font might work better
Also is the site going to have a responsive layout? The screenshot only takes up half my screen atm so I'm guessing this just for demonstration purposes
Also great to see a new banner ^.=.^
Looking forward to the change.
I hope that doesnt sound dumb or etc, but I am becoming a big fan of Ubuntu and Linux/Unix in general and I wasnt sure if it would help or not.
Maybe it could help with site performance issues and etc? But Im not sure since I am still learning.
Literally every other website I'm on has let me request a name-change in one way or another. FA's a bit behind the times.
We understand this is a much-requested feature, but the database simply wasn't designed to permit for name changes.
but probably never D:
Keep up the good work! =D
What I'm talking about is, I like having the setting that allows you to view a small version of the full picture rather than the thumbnail the author set. Usability +1000.
Would be a huge pain if I had to rely on cropped thumbnails which are sometimes purposefully misleading, when looking through a gallery with 5,000+ pictures...
What happened to the delimiters in the top right (settings screenshot)? It's hard to visually separate the S's from the J's. The current style of "(999 S, 999 J, 99 C)" is very readable.
But "999S999J99C"? Yikers.
..will there be an option to choose which style? *crosses fingers*
multi thread comments is bad enough
had no idea that was a thing! Thanks a lot!
Gifs are so inflexible :3
Going forward, flash isn't even supported on iOS or android unless you use a very old unsafe and unstable install.
It amazes me on those rare times when I end up on some "major media" website without adblock and see just how horrifically invasive flash ads have become. I don't even know how anyone even uses those sites with literally Hondas driving over all the content while screaming.
Seriously, fuck Flash ads.
Them in the 90s and early naughties was just plain hell, as there didn't really exist any way to block those damn things. Those ever-annoying "ZAP THE BUZZING MOSQUITO" or "CONGRATULATIONS YOU JUST WON A FREE APPLE IPOD" sound ads were seriously the worst thing in the entire world. Once AdBlock came out, I never went back. Sometimes when I use a computer without AdBlock and see those huge-ass car commercials/movies ads, I die a little inside. I can only imagine what kind of horrific Flash ads furries would make on this site, seeing how the taste level here is pretty suspect. :S
That's if you can even get the page to load due to the massive amount of hanging it all causes.
I'd also suggest using something a little softer in place of pure red. It's a bit too harsh, especially against that dark background.
I'm also curious how this new UI looks on a PC. It seems like there would be a lot of wasted space if it was viewed on a widescreen monitor.
Well, THAT'S a change I can appreciate ^^
Second link...meh.
Could you fix that?
I have a widescreen monitor like pretty much every person out there and i would have loved to eventually see something that makes use of this.
The whole streamlined Vertical theme is nice (and not that much different from now), but i would love some horizontal features eventually...or the choice of.
Im not a fan of the current trend of making things "modern" by heavily adjusting them to be Mobile/Metro(win8) like.
- just make one and submit it as normal and tag the hell out of it with things like : "fallbanner" "fall" "banner" "fabanner" "furaffinity" "2014banner" etc and hope for the best.
I'm not sure there's any "official" way, however. ^^;
- add delete submission on EACH submission. Instead of
Manage submissions delete one by one
- search in notes
- organize notes
As for those of you with adblock, do be sure to add FA to your exclude lists. :)
Would be nice if the site banner got a clickable or at least just written credit right below ot or somewhere in it's closest area...
It really bugs me that the artist gets exposure only via update journals forcing to click a separate thing everytime one is interested about checking or re-checking the artist, also the banner updare journal is not always the newest one. Also if you click 'x' on the newest update bar you loose the opportunity to check the artist, I discovered where to look for those news journals just now because I was stubborn to check everywhere where they might be, but I didn't know for the past years and I didn't bother to check the artists.
Would be also nice to have the folders introduced before Phoenix^^; And both in galleries and favs (in favs too because an average user tends to have much more favs than submissions, also it's nice if artists can gain new views thanks to other users' favs, and if people could organise their favs by some themes or other patterns, their visitors could search through them based on their own interests and therefore be more likely to fav or even follow the artists:)) but if that must wait for Phoenix, fine, I'm just waiting for the folders from the very beginning of having an account here.
Also, based on what I see happening on FA, would be nice if there was a separate field for reposting art so it both can be easly shared with the commissioner's/giftee's watchers but without being mixed up with their own original submissions, FA users have a huge tendency of reposting art of their characters, but also they have a very high tendency of insta faving without checking the description and therefore without noticing there is a link to the original given in it(many assume the reposter=the artist too), and so the more popular reposter gets more exposure on the resubmission than the less popular artist on the original instead of having it risen... this is sad.
I can see that based on our own account. we have rather a low number of watchers (we'not taking active part in the community, we simply submit art and journals and thank for watches, hardly ever comment, fav of whatever, also can't afford ads yet+waiting for the best moment to try them), but also I could compare to a far less watched artist. If we submit an original submission and the person who resumbits it has more watchers, the usual result is the resubmission having more favs and comments(and these include complements for the artist's work like if the artist could see them on the resubmission) even though it privides a proper credit(so both the artist's icon/name and a direct link to the original) even if the resubmission is of a lower resolution; also if we make a repost of an artwork made for us we get more feedback on them than there is on the original if the artist is less popular than us. If the original artist is more popular however, it's the original which has more feedback. And the funny thing is the orginial hardly ever gets more exposure thanks to a resubmission.
I think this separation could work like that: everything looks like if you submitted an original thing BUT you'd mark it as a resubmission and this would get no +fav button, instead it would have a small credits area for the artist(s) and link(s) to the original.
This could also be solved in a collaborative submission process instead, it's quite a complicated feature, but it's perfect for both collabs and resubmissions if it had certain options. The idea is an equivalent od this Deviantart suggestion: https://support.deviantart.com/entr.....on-Deviations- . You may say but DA is less of a social site, it's more an art site... well, not anymore, they actually are becoming even more like a social media site, just mostly art oriented. (They prefer to work on social oriented updates than art oriented ones:/)
How this could work for the resubmission fenomenon?
this is a quote of my comment on this suggestion on DA, striked out parts are too much DA related, small brackets are comments for FA:
"[guote]I've also noticed that
even though it's not expected for DA,] there is some percentage of people who repost artworks they commissioned from sb else.Because it's not typical for DA,hardly ever does anyone look at the descriptions and pay attention to whether the submitter=the author, and so the feedback goes to resubmitter instead of the original artist. The collaboration submission system could allow for resubmissions bringing no harm to the author while allowing the commissioner(character/s owner/s) sharing the piece they bought with their watchers and also bring feedback to the actual author.The collaboration system could also have a special additional category for that (not to bring confusement that the piece is a collaboration while it was all made by one artist) which would be like dividing the 'collaborators' into two categories: 'artist(executioner)' and: 'commissioner' or 'character owner'
or '(object)designer' or 'model') (I believeall 4(both) 'ors' should be pickable, because these are very frequent relationship of the executor and third parties which often result in resubmissions;photographed models resubmit photos including them to show how do they perform as models(portfolios),character owners resubmit artworks featuring their OCs,designers of e.g. a jewellery piece who did not made the jewellery piece itself want to share their design brought to life(portfolios),and commissioners of other contents often want to share what they bought and have it in hteir galleries). - perhaps for FA just character owner and commissioner(option for people who commission art for another person) would do hence FA doesn't actually support photography and crafitng.[/subl]No matter what exactly
DA[sub](FA) was made for, these groups of people do resubmit artworks they didn't executed, which could potentially work as an advert BUT with users generally not having a look at descriptions it doesn't work like that.Even DDs are given not always to the executors but also e.g. to the model instead...Of course, still all parties would have to confirm their relationship to the piece they're assigned to, exaclty like the collaborating artists.[/quote]"