Um...plenty of artists still post straight furry porn on it.

Yeah, but you're not supposed to. Maybe I'm just weird, but I try to follow at least the spirit of the rules, and the project I want to do is very much adult in nature. Makes it hard to even pretend otherwise.

I dont blame you, same here.

Fair enough, and I can't imagine there is any site like that, because even with sites like E-junkie and other digital media vending sites, almost all of them a pretty universal no porn policy because let's be honest, America is screwed up and people have this stigma against porn. :/

Because, you know, 'Murica. I am so done

Considering that the this Personhood Amendment in CO includes that a woman could potentially be charged with murder even during a miscarriage and other perfectly legitimate medical reason why a pregnancy failed without any real intervention.

I am just done with peoples' invalid religious agendas without anything stand on.

It all sucks balls, and not the fun way. :-/

I will say, though, that on some further reading, it might be workable after all. It looks like the majority of those restrictions are on publicly viewable content. So long as things are set to private and patrons only, and not solely for the purposes of whacking off (which the story actually isn't, even though it contains adult content. It was always supposed to be a gentle introduction to a somewhat more realistic BDSM scenario) it should be all right.

I think it will work out, and the nice things about artistic porn, is that it is not like real porn, so it is not for the sole purpose of fapping off, LOL :P

Multi-purpose porn FTW!

Yeah, pretty much

well from what i saw the adult stuff has to be put under patreon only and you would be fine, just cant have it on your front page under general is all

of course i could be missing somethign

I sort of got the impression that as long as it's not publicly viewable and kids aren't looking at it, and no one complains, they kind of don't care? Like, erotica is fine. I guess I could potentially re-illustrate some of the pics so they're not so blatantly spoogy... That might fly. :-/

So I took the time to read their terms of service. The term "obscene" is what use to reference adult materials shows up twice.

The first is in section 7, bullet 2 stating that you should not "Publish, post, upload, distribute or disseminate any profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene or unlawful topic, name, material or information.". While this would appear to prevent posting of adult material. Section 7 is listed as "Public Areas" and clearly states that these are areas that are "public". In section 2, they use the phrase "Service whether in public, private, or offline interactions." designating that there are "public" and "private" and "offline" areas of Patreon. Since Patreon only content is not available in "public" we can assume it's "private" or "offline" meaning it doesn't fall under section 7.

The second is in section 11 which discusses "Your Information". It states that your profile "will not be obscene or contain child pornography or be harmful to minors". Your profile is defined as "any information and materials you provide to Patreon.com or other Users in connection with your registration for and use of the Service, including without limitation that posted or transmitted for use in Public Areas." So it looks like it includes registration information and stuff posted in "public" areas. Once again, this means that posting private Patreon only pieces won't fall under section 11.

There's one more interesting area in section 9 titled "Links to Other Web Sites" in which Patreon essentially disowns the content of links posted to other sites. Specifically "The use of any website controlled, owned or operated by third parties is governed by the terms and conditions of use and privacy policies for those websites, and not by Patreon.com's Terms of Service or Privacy Policy.". While this was probably added to protect them from bad advertisers, it means that any links you post to places like FA aren't covered by the Patreon TOS. Therefore, links to adult content within Patreon only posts should be ok.

So your options from most risky to least risky:

* Post it all in Patreon only posts
* Post censored versions on Patreon and link to full adult versions here
* Post censored versions on Patreon with no links (everyone knows where they are)
* Make a Patreon for a generic "art project" but only post clean stuff there

The feeling I got from reading everything is that as long as you don't piss someone off, you're good. Take this all with a grain of salt though, I'm not a lawyer.

Yeah, on further reading, I think it might be workable after all. I'd already planned on putting all the existing art that's above PG-13 as Patron-only anyway, and not public. The main thing I had to do was go back and make sure there weren't any boobs or dicks on my main page. It looks like as long as the content isn't publicly "obscene", I may still be okay to use it. They DO allow sexual and erotic content. I may have to re-draw some of the pics, but I was planning on doing that anyway.

I LOATHE that they actually put "Anything that we forgot to put on this list but makes our users uncomfortable", because when you put something like that, ANYTHING can be banned for being offensive. If you're going to have restrictions against something, they must be CLEARLY defined!

Yeah, that irks me, too.

It could be a tasteful nude posed "suggestively" and it would be considered pornography. That addendum pretty much makes it so they can just remove something if they don't like it -_-

Well, I did go back and read things over more carefully, and it looks like they DO allow sexual content, so long as it's not publicly viewable. That, I can do. I think the restrictions are mostly to keep kids and folks who are uncomfortable with sexuality from stumbling across pages full of boobs and dicks. It looks like as long as you mark your NSFW content as patrons-only, it should be okay.

Okay, THAT does make sense!

You'll let us know if you set up on Patreon, won't you?
Always happy to pitch in for fellow writers and good artists.

Yep! I'm just tweaking a few more things and making sure I understand the system. Then I'll make an announcement. =)