An Old Shit Rants about Art, Nobody fucking cares
11 years ago
General
SO, I discovered something that unexpectedly pissed me off, namely seeing the pencil art of a really popular artist and realizing it's total GARBAGE and that their style is ENTIRELY due to digital skills. And then they post a note about how they already have over 8000 watchers in just a couple of years while I've been on dA for a decade and just hit 742. I'm not even a "cult classic" like I used to joke.
Y'know, I ain't gonna piss on their lack of pencil skills...Hell, it's not even THEM I'm pissed AT. What pissed me off is that I taught myself how to draw back in 1986 with pencil on paper and THAT is how I've been drawing for almost 30 years, and in the past 10 or 11 the one thing I keep hearing, on those RARE occasions someone outside of my usual circle deigns to comment on my artwork, is "So, when are you going to finish it?"
And any time I mention to someone about my frustration at this, their response is INEVITABLY "Well, learn to draw with a tablet."
I HAVE BEEN DRAWING THE EXACT SAME WAY FOR THREE DECADES, DO YOU THINK IT'S THAT EASY TO SUDDENLY TEACH YOURSELF A BRAND NEW WAY OF DOING SOMETHING THAT GOES TOTALLY CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING YOU NORMALLY DO?
Do you know what it's like to have to try and teach yourself how to draw by NOT putting lines on paper that you can see and touch and FUCKING SMELL EVEN and how to draw by NOT LOOKING AT WHERE YOUR HAND IS BUT BY LOOKING AT A FUCKING COMPUTER SCREEN IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOCATION and how to color NOT by putting pigments you mix or EVEN MORE FUCKING PENCILS to AN ACTUALLY PIECE OF PAPER WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE LINES YOU JUST DREW?
I mean, fuck, it took me THIS long to get my EXISTING skills to their current level. How long will it take me to get to this point in A COMPLETELY NEW MEDIUM?
...OK, I take full blame for not having inking skills, though. It was the fucking 80s, though, if you wanted to be a comic book penciller, you typically handed your PENCIL WORK, HENCE THE NAME, to an INKER. I was ACTUALLY TOLD BY PROFESSIONALS IN THE INDUSTRY at the SDCC that inking my own stuff looked BAD in professional comics.
Y'know what, though? FUCK IT...if it's so goddamn easy, like everyone keep telling me, then I'm gonna fucking do it. First official New Year's FUCKING Resolution of 2015: by this time next year, I will be a practicing color digital artist.
I taught myself the skills I already have, I taught myself how to drive, I taught myself how to FUCKING READ AND TELL TIME AT TWO FUCKING YEARS OLD.
This SHIT ends NOW.
Y'know, I ain't gonna piss on their lack of pencil skills...Hell, it's not even THEM I'm pissed AT. What pissed me off is that I taught myself how to draw back in 1986 with pencil on paper and THAT is how I've been drawing for almost 30 years, and in the past 10 or 11 the one thing I keep hearing, on those RARE occasions someone outside of my usual circle deigns to comment on my artwork, is "So, when are you going to finish it?"
And any time I mention to someone about my frustration at this, their response is INEVITABLY "Well, learn to draw with a tablet."
I HAVE BEEN DRAWING THE EXACT SAME WAY FOR THREE DECADES, DO YOU THINK IT'S THAT EASY TO SUDDENLY TEACH YOURSELF A BRAND NEW WAY OF DOING SOMETHING THAT GOES TOTALLY CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING YOU NORMALLY DO?
Do you know what it's like to have to try and teach yourself how to draw by NOT putting lines on paper that you can see and touch and FUCKING SMELL EVEN and how to draw by NOT LOOKING AT WHERE YOUR HAND IS BUT BY LOOKING AT A FUCKING COMPUTER SCREEN IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOCATION and how to color NOT by putting pigments you mix or EVEN MORE FUCKING PENCILS to AN ACTUALLY PIECE OF PAPER WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE LINES YOU JUST DREW?
I mean, fuck, it took me THIS long to get my EXISTING skills to their current level. How long will it take me to get to this point in A COMPLETELY NEW MEDIUM?
...OK, I take full blame for not having inking skills, though. It was the fucking 80s, though, if you wanted to be a comic book penciller, you typically handed your PENCIL WORK, HENCE THE NAME, to an INKER. I was ACTUALLY TOLD BY PROFESSIONALS IN THE INDUSTRY at the SDCC that inking my own stuff looked BAD in professional comics.
Y'know what, though? FUCK IT...if it's so goddamn easy, like everyone keep telling me, then I'm gonna fucking do it. First official New Year's FUCKING Resolution of 2015: by this time next year, I will be a practicing color digital artist.
I taught myself the skills I already have, I taught myself how to drive, I taught myself how to FUCKING READ AND TELL TIME AT TWO FUCKING YEARS OLD.
This SHIT ends NOW.
FA+

I went from traditional to digital and its like..ow no. I dunno if I can do this. Coloring is fine cause I suck at traditional coloring cause I like coloring outside the lines. {Such a rebel}
I feel your pain though.
If you have a way that you're comfortable with then who cares? that's YOUR style and it's YOUR art not theirs.
Also, pencil work is rad. And if you say it stops there, it stop there. The artist decides when his shit is done, nobody else. You are the creator. You make what you want. Fuck everyone else.
If you're going to try digital arting more power to you. There's definitely a learning curve. Not sure how much it changes one's original style, or how much is just learning and growing as an artist in a new medium.
Digital has it's positive points, but IMO nothing beats a sketchbok for keeping the doodling skills sharp.
It is easier if you use MS5 or Paint Tool SAI because of the stabilization features within, but it's still re-teaching yourself how to draw essentially.
I actually sympathize with your point, it seems that these days people seem to critique sketches based on whether or not they're digital or traditional, rather than judging based on skill. It's certainly made me consider going all digital myself, simply because the quality usually can surpass pencil art on paper. It's certainly cleaner looking, and for me it's also the only way to create any sort of decent colored art.
I wish you luck on your new artistic endeavors, and hope to be doing the same myself next year!
It took a good long while to get the hang of digital coloring, but I am really eager to see how you do. If you want, I can show you a few tutorial sites.
Candidly, I don't think it makes much difference whether one's skills are digital or traditional in terms of the value of the art or the skills. But cartoons and comics were always products that, even when they were done traditionally, relied on various publishing tricks from resizing to various tones and stencils to achieve a look that computers happen to mix with very well. The Internet embraced this, and the rest is history.
However, some artists have had success with skipping the step of computer inking, such as the maker of that Dreamkeepers comic that seems to be so popular, who just colorized uninked pencils using layers on most of the comic pages. It still looks fine to most people, though there are compensating factors, like the artist's uncanny skills with perspective and ability to cleanup the line art just enough to not look too sketchy. But you can still tell it's all based on the original pencils, or at least it was for the first few volumes.
Also, though she eventually became fond of using computer effects more over time, Ashryn was initially known as an impressive traditional inker. It may seem like a lifetime ago now, but there was a time when she was one of the top furry artists in the field, commanding high commission prices etc, all based on traditional art techniques. It's also worth noting that her work looked like shit though until she discovered the joys of inking. Working more precisely seemed to improve both the initial look of her stuff and, later, forced her to focus more overall, tightening up her technique in only a couple of years to be hugely better than it was earlier, with tons of attention lavished on it by then too. I'm sure this required a lot of work and, evidently, a lot of output. But it was a quick process in the overall scheme of things. Of course, now people don't know who you mean when you mention her. All Internet glory is fleeting - so you shouldn't get TOO wrapped up in pursuing it.
You could do the same though, whether it's in traditional work or digital. Of course it wouldn't be easy, nothing worthwhile ever is. But tighten up your work, using whatever approach works best for you, then just produce at least one amazing image for each week of the next few years, and you will be popular in no time. Easy peasy.
Well, OK, maybe more like something nearly impossible for those of us who work slowly. But that's just it - that's the one thing you have going for you as a sketch artist. You and folks like Jolly Jack (Who never did really get the hang of inking in some ways, digitally or otherwise I think) can work faster than most us by far. If you use that to your advantage, popularity could result. Nobody becomes long-term popular on the Net by posting a masterpiece every few years after all. You have to produce a lot consistently. You can do that if you strike a balance between sketchiness and precision that works for you.
If you do go digital, some things are actually slower, and maybe even harder, using a tablet, so be prepared to struggle through that reality. However, some things are easier too, like certain kinds of precisely detailed line work. So, approach it with an open mind. As you may have noticed, there are some artists on here who, oddly enough, make work that doesn't look much different from a tablet from when they were on paper, and not in a good way... So be ready to work past old habits and take on new ones if moving to a tablet, or you could end up back where you started. That said, tablets can be very rewarding. I envy those who adjusted to them overnight, with or without a display. I never really even started to get the hang of it myself until using a display tablet though, truth be told. The display tablet approach helps some of us a lot, while the display just gets in the way for others. So you may want to consider trying both if you get a chance.