I do not blame you.

No, I have a hard time reading other peoples' vore for the exact same reason. Vore, no matter how you slice it, is an extreme act.

Even nonfatal vore is not something that shouldn't ever be treated casually. What, the predator just one day decided "Hm, that sounds kinky, I think I'll try to learn how to do that" and did?

This is half the reason damn near everything I've written has involved some super-secretive group like the Predatory Slave Liberation or the Special Associates; Because a fetish is far too shallow a justification for the kind of time, money and/or effort that would have to go into making such a thing possible.

Don't get me wrong; I can accept characters with a vore/endo fetish, but only if there had been some much greater motivation beforehand; if something REALLY required that they learn how to do that and they only started doing it casually after it became second nature to them.

Having the character just say "Hey, guess what, I can endo" makes it feel like the author has no patience for storytelling and just wants to get to the smut. And if all I wanted was some quick smut, I'd browse the artwork.

Mind you that I'm only stressing on endo-preds so much because you already covered my beef with fatal preds. Again, they need to have a damn good reason to do what they do, because anything simple like "I'm hungry" or "this turns me on" just makes the predator come across as a dick. Which, unless it's building up to a turnabout scenario, I can't stand (because, again, if all I wanted was a random grab-n-gulp, I'd browse the artwork).

Stories command a much more serious time investment from your audience than artwork, ergo you need to give your audience a much more interesting reason to follow you than quick smut. If the entire story can be summed up in a single frame of artwork, you're missing the point.

Sadly though if I start writing it would be quick smut. Even though I have ideas for a long storyline, I just have motivation problems when writing.

For me vore is a way for two characters to show their affections for one another. I just never liked cruel vore or vore in which a sentient person is treated like an object and is killed for the purpose for food.

I'm more pissed at the fact that I'm lured in with the non-fatal, then the predator does a 180 and does fatal on a complete stranger. I get pissed and annoyed so much, because when I thought the character had morals when they really did not. To me they are no longer a protagonist, but an asshole.

Same here. I've often defended vore by saying that its appeal to me is the sense of intimacy -- the fact that you quite literally cannot be any closer to someone than to be inside them (or have them inside you). My problem is that I can't just throw it out there without any justification, nor can I accept it when others do. The predator has to say "This is what I've been doing professionally for [insert amount of time] in order to [insert motivation], and I've really learned to like it." Not just "Hey, watch this."

I share your frustration over face/heel turns too. I don't have a complete aversion to them -- I'll tolerate it if the author provides some damn good motivation to do so and makes it perfectly clear that they, and their characters, are well aware of just what an extreme and/or horrible thing they are about to do is. But few writers ever do this, because they're charging full-speed into the smut and/or because they don't want their audience to feel guilty getting their jollies off to it.

So I say again to all aspiring writers out there: Nobody committing themselves to a long read is only looking for a quick spooge.

I do find it hard to like vore characters sometimes with the amount of uncaring murder they do, it depends on how it's portrayed and if it's cannon etc etc, I do totally get what you mean >3<

Yea, it urks me quite a bit.

what story are you talking about, and who is the writer?

The lines between protagonist and antagonist seem to get more and more blurred as the years go on. I actually hated the movie Dark Shadows for the same reason. In the very first scene of the movie the main character kills a bunch of innocent people. Keep in mind this is supposed to be the underdog of the movie, the guy we're rooting for. And, even if you could pass off the first scene to him being asleep for decades and having insatiable blood lust(being a vampire), you really can't get past another scene where he essentially has full control over what hes doing and kills a bunch of innocent people in the woods. I actually turned off the movie immediately after that I was so disgusted.

Btw, as a fan of macro-themed stories and art I have the same problem. Its very hard to find anything where the macro isn't just destructive and stompy. And even the ones where the character is very well-developed and likeable soon devolve into destruction and killing. Its kinda creepy actually

Yea, I saw that and stayed away from it. I never really liked vampire movies.

Me neither, to be honest. I just watched it because it was marketed as a comedy

I completely understand where you are coming from. I usually enjoy a lot of furry stories or vore stories, but there's always those few stories where I just can't stand how the author handles the narrative. For example, I am perfectly fine with there being ambiguous situations or that the protagonist can do questionable things (not everything is black and white). That, or that the main character is an anti-hero.

However, I draw the line when the author basically begins to yell out the tropes/biases as the story progresses. Like the Humans in the story ALWAYS being immoral, no other 3D human characters, just a cut-out villain/racist. It gets worse if the author makes some sort of Terminator-esque main character that mindlessly kills others/humans and yet he is supposed to be the hero.

>>However, I draw the line when the author basically begins to yell out the tropes/biases as the story progresses. Like the Humans in the story ALWAYS being immoral, no other 3D human characters, just a cut-out villain/racist.

Oh man, the many stories I've read that have that... *Shudders* at that point I stop reading... because it's as if the author is trying to make me feel like shit for actually being a human.