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10 years ago
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before submitting a dish please read our club rules and TOS on the main page From Chris:
I have sent inquiries to the admins if posting recipes from others (sites, magazines, cookbooks, etc.) would be ok AS LONG AS we gave the references...
Though I will put here what
mentioned, and I think its certainly worth mentioning:
"Wuff has heard a LOT of discussion regarding recipes on other forums, particularly prevalent on the Yahoo Pressure Cooker group and Rice Cooker group. Folks are always posting their version of PC and Rice Cooker recipes that they find elsewhere, and invariably, about twice a year, someone new to the group raises an objection about copying other sources.
The Bottom Line: Recipes are NOT subject to copyright in the same way that novels and other written works are. Why? Because you can not copyright a list of materials as a concept. You can copyright the photo as an individual artwork (photography is art), but you can not copyright the number and portions of the materials used to make the dish, nor can you copyright the technique in which they are put together.
You COULD copyright the words, if you right the recipe as a blog article, talking about the background, source history, and humorous anecdotes of trying to make it. That's a story. But the CONCEPTS of technique and material are not in themselves subject to the copyright.
So, with MANY copyright lawyers and other legal and semi-legal pro's in those groups weighing in, the TL;DR version is this:
You can use the list of ingredients and describe the techniques in your own words, and there is no copyright infraction, but it is polite to reference the source if you know it, as a matter of courtesy. You have to use you own photos; can't cut and paste those. And if there is a story associated with the recipe, the story is the property of the one who wrote it."
SO - Until I hear otherwise (and IF there was a problem with posting recipes with links, the admins would have just cleared out our entire group, and been done with it already XD)...
Please feel free to submit any and all of your recipes to us, AND, if they happen to be from any OTHER source (again, magazine, website, cookbook, etc.) and please, please, please put in your reference!!!!
That is all from me!
UPDATE:
I just received a note from the admins, but I'll put in what I asked as well:
From
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I have a small question for you...
Since our group does post recipes, there are times that we use recipes from other sources, (i.e., cookbooks, internets, etc.)
As long as we post the source of the recipe (i.e., link, author, book or etc.) and this is our own photo, this is still ok, correct?
Please respond!
Replies from user and staff members
AsiaNeko, posted on: 04/01/15 02:05 pm
Hey there!
Yes that is permitted. Just make sure to make it clear that the photograph is yours and the recipe is what you are citing.
I have sent inquiries to the admins if posting recipes from others (sites, magazines, cookbooks, etc.) would be ok AS LONG AS we gave the references...
Though I will put here what
mentioned, and I think its certainly worth mentioning:"Wuff has heard a LOT of discussion regarding recipes on other forums, particularly prevalent on the Yahoo Pressure Cooker group and Rice Cooker group. Folks are always posting their version of PC and Rice Cooker recipes that they find elsewhere, and invariably, about twice a year, someone new to the group raises an objection about copying other sources.
The Bottom Line: Recipes are NOT subject to copyright in the same way that novels and other written works are. Why? Because you can not copyright a list of materials as a concept. You can copyright the photo as an individual artwork (photography is art), but you can not copyright the number and portions of the materials used to make the dish, nor can you copyright the technique in which they are put together.
You COULD copyright the words, if you right the recipe as a blog article, talking about the background, source history, and humorous anecdotes of trying to make it. That's a story. But the CONCEPTS of technique and material are not in themselves subject to the copyright.
So, with MANY copyright lawyers and other legal and semi-legal pro's in those groups weighing in, the TL;DR version is this:
You can use the list of ingredients and describe the techniques in your own words, and there is no copyright infraction, but it is polite to reference the source if you know it, as a matter of courtesy. You have to use you own photos; can't cut and paste those. And if there is a story associated with the recipe, the story is the property of the one who wrote it."
SO - Until I hear otherwise (and IF there was a problem with posting recipes with links, the admins would have just cleared out our entire group, and been done with it already XD)...
Please feel free to submit any and all of your recipes to us, AND, if they happen to be from any OTHER source (again, magazine, website, cookbook, etc.) and please, please, please put in your reference!!!!
That is all from me!
UPDATE:
I just received a note from the admins, but I'll put in what I asked as well:
From
-I have a small question for you...
Since our group does post recipes, there are times that we use recipes from other sources, (i.e., cookbooks, internets, etc.)
As long as we post the source of the recipe (i.e., link, author, book or etc.) and this is our own photo, this is still ok, correct?
Please respond!
Replies from user and staff members
AsiaNeko, posted on: 04/01/15 02:05 pm
Hey there!
Yes that is permitted. Just make sure to make it clear that the photograph is yours and the recipe is what you are citing.
Thanks for the heads up... or is that forks up?
The trick lies in the difference between copyright and patents. A recipe is a formula for creating a thing, and protection of those sorts of instructions and formulas falls under "patent". The "problem" (not really a problem for us) is, you can't patent an idea that is already public! So, you can patent a new strain of peaches if you hybridize or otherwise breed something unique and new, but you can't patent the peach cobbler you cook them in, because that part is already public.
You can copyright your photo of said cobbler, because it is a creative artwork, but you can't copyright the instructions.
There's a LOT more to it than that, and the "legals and para-legals" have explained them in long (even for wuffy!) and minute detail in those news groups this wuff enjoys. But the bottom line is; use your own words in the instructions, and you're "golden" (and legal). But be polite, and reference the source if you used one for the genesis of your creations.
On a semi-related note; I was wondering if by chance the subject of the group having to remove the photos of those lovely cakes was brought up. I don't really understand why you were forced to remove them, because it was made clear that the work was not yours, and even if that was the issue it wouldn't explain how people are able to post pictures of cons, scenery, animals, fur suits, taxidermy, clothes and so on but you're unable to share a couple cake shots.
Please read the previous journal...Oli's comments cover that :B
My newest submission of food (that I have yet to present to you) however was from the back of a package. I will be sure to include the credit of the company. Just to cover my bases.