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All porns will be stopped forever...and here's reason
10 years ago
To whom it may concern,
As of now, I will permanently stop everything porn-related art from myself, clients and friends, starting AFTER commissions.
I AM SORRY
Here is behind my complete change: MY parents.
I cannot tell. But I will say this from beginning. Since they knew my secret that I drew gay porn (even straight) about 3-4 years ago, they are eager that I've been making these for you. Years prior to 2010--before I joined FurAffinity, one of my best friends asked me "can/do you draw porn?". I wasn't quite ready for this "porn" thing. So I started to draw a dick which I feel disgusted at the result: a pink stick from a hole thingy with two sacs.
So I practiced drawing dicks and everything male and female until 2012 when I started commissions. I felt more comfortable and get used to these, but these didn't turn me to gay: I justified that they DID NOT turn me into gay, I draw gay/straight things for people who are gay/straight. So I continued accepting pornography requests as commissions, including personal ones since I know some people expect these from me, but I don't care how much they like, I just care about my development and practice. I don't wanna brag, but I say I made these to attract attention. I was happy that I make friends online over the years, sharing art, lives and ideas. Every time happening these make me masturbate as a plaything relief to my mind, my body and myself.
Now, today, my parents force me to stop them officially. I know you guys would react and justify the reason for me to ignore my parents' demands. Here is the true opinions from them: my mom and dad raised me, fed me, educated me, paid my debts in every school I attended, and let me do what I want. They defended me not to become homosexual from movies, tv, outside...from those other people who became one. They told me right now that these porn art would destroy not just my family, but also my aunts, uncles, deceased grandparents and descendants. Yeah, I know this sounds hypocrite for you. But you have to understand: I can't decide who's right or wrong among these: Furry community or Parents.
They added that these "friends" did not raise me, make me grow, and freeload with them. They think you used me and forced me to be like you. They know you are a "virus" to the world. They hate these guys even in TV and movies such as actors. They learn it is evil to do it. For them, these clients make me a sex slave with money like prostitutes in the bar. The homosexuality is against God, Laws of Nature, and family custom (You might then add your justification and loophole to religion, people, government laws, mother earth, and more). If I continue what I want, It will spread family's humility all over the world when I expose my porn art more and more. They don't accept if you say that these pornography from an artist don't give a shit to any family member, and they also don't accept if you say it has nothing to do with anyone else. They don't agree "it is an art": ("drawing of person...why do you add/expose a disgusting, meaningless penis on the body?!"). They also afraid that gays are dangerous--just like what happened to my older brother Paulo who was threatened to be raped by a gay when he was young, they added. Added more "defense" to this action is that my young brother hate me and and does not care for me so much due to my growing gayness and discovery of more graphic scenes on internet and folder--that's why we both were fighting too much for long time.
Btw, I am NOT against gays nor furry fandom, but it is my fair opinion and final warning. I know my age is 22, and I can do what I want as young adult. But I can't take who is right or wrong. I predict you would say that my parents are hypocrite, homophobic, sexist, heartless, uncooperative, unwilling, close-minded and anything you are against discriminating people. But please don't be angry at them. They are my parents. We care each other for 22 years. You must not always rely on me and my art, and up against them. I just can't because I am afraid!
Here are my two life-changing options:
If you are upset that I would seriously refuse to take porn requests EXCEPT clean ideas and butt you off, my parents will be proud of me that I practiced not to accept them, proving I'm worthy to be the family. I love my mom and dad and they love me. But they don't love anything that they hate from me.
If I am with you guys, they will kick me and disown me. I will not be able to raise myself even worth trying to find my new home and start on my own: living with streetchildren, poor people, and beggars as result.
The second option is my main fear. So I ultimately chose 1st option. This will make me happier...even to them
So, I will decide clean art Ideas for the next commission season. If you ask me to draw a gay/straight porn, I would refuse, and I would suggest you to find another artist who accepts one truly.
This will be my turning point that I will go back to story art, comics and Birth of the Shivanian Heroes universe. That means I will revert back to classic kevindragon.
This message will never be forgotten. This new-life message remain in my mind, and in my heart. However, the homosexual and straight pornography will always be remembered.
Thank you for understanding.
COMMISSIONS QUEUE
<<CARTOON STYLES>>
1)
- "Share for Some Taxes" FINISHED
2)
- "First Step of Bodybuilding" FINISHED (private)
3)
- "Thunder Hunters" FINISHED
4)
- "Pack of Woofs" Lineart Done
Lycaon, Wolfrun and Woody werewolf
Cartoon smooth-shaded style, room background
paid
5)
- "??? Reference Sheet" Lineart Done
HoMM III lizardman
paid
6)
- "Treasure Thievery" Lineart Done
Targon Ghanzir and himself
Cartoon style, dungeon background
not yet paid
7) - "Biggest Hanging Out" Lineart Done
Aurati and Zeroth
Cartoon shaded style, city background
paid
8)
- "Pumping Humping?" ON HOLD: Inking
Atlas and Targon Ghizekx
Cartoon smooth-shaded style, bedroom background
paid
9) - "Visitor" ON HOLD: Inking (private)
Aurati and Targon Ghizekx
Cartoon smooth-shaded style, living room background
paid
10)
metallicanarchist - "Final Challenge" ON HOLD: sketching
Stryker Wolfang
cartoon style, smooth-shaded, alley background
paid
11) metallicanarchist - "???" IN PROCESS: planning
Stryker Wolfang, Death Dragoon, Shock Dragoon, SkyRocket Raccoon, SubTorpedo BlueJay, Sonic the Horned Toad, Slash Velociraptor, and Alia
cartoon style, smooth-shaded, short comic
Paid
<<SCALY STYLES>>
1)
sonicfox - "Good Old Cretaceous Days" FINISHED
2)
Arrankhar - "Subdued" ON HOLD: Adding Backgrounds
Mazurek, Skaro, King Corus, Troojhar and Zacquaris
Fully detailed artwork
Paid
3)
- "Tyrannic Workout" IN PROCESS: scaling
Typhek, Grilder and Troojhar
Fully-detailed scaly style, gym background
paid
4)Dragoniade - "Tender Resting Time" Lineart done
Dragoniade and Young Targon Ghanzir
Scaly style, grass background
paid
5) lightbinger - "Penalty for Trespassers" FINISHED
Kracklar and Jack
Scaly style, swamp background
paid
6) Arrankhar - "Cold and Dark" Lineart Done
Mazurek, Draxonar, Ka'shmir
Scaly style, dungeon background
not yet paid
7) - "Aztec Rescue" IN PROCESS: sketching
Mazurek, Griz, Rekhit, Vhajit and Kra'thelos
Scaly style, aztec background
not yet paid
As of now, I will permanently stop everything porn-related art from myself, clients and friends, starting AFTER commissions.
I AM SORRY
Here is behind my complete change: MY parents.
I cannot tell. But I will say this from beginning. Since they knew my secret that I drew gay porn (even straight) about 3-4 years ago, they are eager that I've been making these for you. Years prior to 2010--before I joined FurAffinity, one of my best friends asked me "can/do you draw porn?". I wasn't quite ready for this "porn" thing. So I started to draw a dick which I feel disgusted at the result: a pink stick from a hole thingy with two sacs.
So I practiced drawing dicks and everything male and female until 2012 when I started commissions. I felt more comfortable and get used to these, but these didn't turn me to gay: I justified that they DID NOT turn me into gay, I draw gay/straight things for people who are gay/straight. So I continued accepting pornography requests as commissions, including personal ones since I know some people expect these from me, but I don't care how much they like, I just care about my development and practice. I don't wanna brag, but I say I made these to attract attention. I was happy that I make friends online over the years, sharing art, lives and ideas. Every time happening these make me masturbate as a plaything relief to my mind, my body and myself.
Now, today, my parents force me to stop them officially. I know you guys would react and justify the reason for me to ignore my parents' demands. Here is the true opinions from them: my mom and dad raised me, fed me, educated me, paid my debts in every school I attended, and let me do what I want. They defended me not to become homosexual from movies, tv, outside...from those other people who became one. They told me right now that these porn art would destroy not just my family, but also my aunts, uncles, deceased grandparents and descendants. Yeah, I know this sounds hypocrite for you. But you have to understand: I can't decide who's right or wrong among these: Furry community or Parents.
They added that these "friends" did not raise me, make me grow, and freeload with them. They think you used me and forced me to be like you. They know you are a "virus" to the world. They hate these guys even in TV and movies such as actors. They learn it is evil to do it. For them, these clients make me a sex slave with money like prostitutes in the bar. The homosexuality is against God, Laws of Nature, and family custom (You might then add your justification and loophole to religion, people, government laws, mother earth, and more). If I continue what I want, It will spread family's humility all over the world when I expose my porn art more and more. They don't accept if you say that these pornography from an artist don't give a shit to any family member, and they also don't accept if you say it has nothing to do with anyone else. They don't agree "it is an art": ("drawing of person...why do you add/expose a disgusting, meaningless penis on the body?!"). They also afraid that gays are dangerous--just like what happened to my older brother Paulo who was threatened to be raped by a gay when he was young, they added. Added more "defense" to this action is that my young brother hate me and and does not care for me so much due to my growing gayness and discovery of more graphic scenes on internet and folder--that's why we both were fighting too much for long time.
Btw, I am NOT against gays nor furry fandom, but it is my fair opinion and final warning. I know my age is 22, and I can do what I want as young adult. But I can't take who is right or wrong. I predict you would say that my parents are hypocrite, homophobic, sexist, heartless, uncooperative, unwilling, close-minded and anything you are against discriminating people. But please don't be angry at them. They are my parents. We care each other for 22 years. You must not always rely on me and my art, and up against them. I just can't because I am afraid!
Here are my two life-changing options:
If you are upset that I would seriously refuse to take porn requests EXCEPT clean ideas and butt you off, my parents will be proud of me that I practiced not to accept them, proving I'm worthy to be the family. I love my mom and dad and they love me. But they don't love anything that they hate from me.
If I am with you guys, they will kick me and disown me. I will not be able to raise myself even worth trying to find my new home and start on my own: living with streetchildren, poor people, and beggars as result.
The second option is my main fear. So I ultimately chose 1st option. This will make me happier...even to them
So, I will decide clean art Ideas for the next commission season. If you ask me to draw a gay/straight porn, I would refuse, and I would suggest you to find another artist who accepts one truly.
This will be my turning point that I will go back to story art, comics and Birth of the Shivanian Heroes universe. That means I will revert back to classic kevindragon.
This message will never be forgotten. This new-life message remain in my mind, and in my heart. However, the homosexual and straight pornography will always be remembered.
Thank you for understanding.
COMMISSIONS QUEUE
<<CARTOON STYLES>>
1)
- "Share for Some Taxes" FINISHED2)
- "First Step of Bodybuilding" FINISHED (private)3)
- "Thunder Hunters" FINISHED4)
- "Pack of Woofs" Lineart DoneLycaon, Wolfrun and Woody werewolf
Cartoon smooth-shaded style, room background
paid
5)
- "??? Reference Sheet" Lineart DoneHoMM III lizardman
paid
6)
- "Treasure Thievery" Lineart DoneTargon Ghanzir and himself
Cartoon style, dungeon background
not yet paid
7)
- "Biggest Hanging Out" Lineart DoneAurati and Zeroth
Cartoon shaded style, city background
paid
8)
- "Pumping Humping?" ON HOLD: InkingAtlas and Targon Ghizekx
Cartoon smooth-shaded style, bedroom background
paid
9)
- "Visitor" ON HOLD: Inking (private)Aurati and Targon Ghizekx
Cartoon smooth-shaded style, living room background
paid
10)
metallicanarchist - "Final Challenge" ON HOLD: sketchingStryker Wolfang
cartoon style, smooth-shaded, alley background
paid
11)
metallicanarchist - "???" IN PROCESS: planningStryker Wolfang, Death Dragoon, Shock Dragoon, SkyRocket Raccoon, SubTorpedo BlueJay, Sonic the Horned Toad, Slash Velociraptor, and Alia
cartoon style, smooth-shaded, short comic
Paid
<<SCALY STYLES>>
1)
sonicfox - "Good Old Cretaceous Days" FINISHED2)
Arrankhar - "Subdued" ON HOLD: Adding BackgroundsMazurek, Skaro, King Corus, Troojhar and Zacquaris
Fully detailed artwork
Paid
3)
- "Tyrannic Workout" IN PROCESS: scalingTyphek, Grilder and Troojhar
Fully-detailed scaly style, gym background
paid
4)Dragoniade - "Tender Resting Time" Lineart done
Dragoniade and Young Targon Ghanzir
Scaly style, grass background
paid
5)
lightbinger - "Penalty for Trespassers" FINISHEDKracklar and Jack
Scaly style, swamp background
paid
6)
Arrankhar - "Cold and Dark" Lineart DoneMazurek, Draxonar, Ka'shmir
Scaly style, dungeon background
not yet paid
7)
- "Aztec Rescue" IN PROCESS: sketchingMazurek, Griz, Rekhit, Vhajit and Kra'thelos
Scaly style, aztec background
not yet paid
I know quite a few furs who had a gay or bisexual past and are now raising children, no problem here. Their reason is indeed homophobic, and sometimes it's better not to avoid an argument with those you love if it can makes things better on both sides. You can still be grateful to your parents while not accepting everything from them.
If you stop drawing porn because you're bored of it it's your own choice and it's great. If you do it for someone else, it's only gonna raise your frustration, which can lead to worse things.
Oh and for god's sake, people should really chill about sex in general, we're in 2015 and yet sex is still sacred like if a non existant superior entity had control over it and would judge you for that.
Really, not anyone's business where you stick your dick in. Jizz.
Kevin, seriously, your parents are blowing things waaay out of proportion with their hate and ignorance.... and you're also 20 years old ffs. You can be you own person and do your own things that you enjoy and no one can tell you different.
get any new requests from you or any other artists in
FA. *sigh*
I was actually in a very similar situation - my father learned about my homosexuality and tried to "convert" me into heterosexuality. He said many hurtful things, and he also brought up the whole "Well, I raised you, and spent so much time and money towards bringing you up" thing you mention, which frankly, I find to be the lowest of the low a parent can say to their child. Same goes for the "What did I do wrong?!" line.
I do not believe that your only 2 options are complying with your parents entirely to stop doing what you want to do, or getting disowned. There's always more ways out. Have you considered moving out, perhaps getting an apartment with friends? When I turned 18, I took my first opportunity to move out, and have not had any regrets since. I even completely broke off contact with my father due to his homophobic behaviour towards me, among many other things (and one of them was being controlling, as well).
In short, if you are afraid of your own parents, those people who are supposed to love and support you, then something is really wrong.
Also, homosexuality is not a sickness, or "virus" as you describe it. It's genetics. There's nothing you, or anybody else, can do. If you completely deny its existence, if you try to remove it from yourself, all you will do is end up hurting yourself, and being depressed your entire life. Gayness also is not against the Laws of Nature - that is completely wrong. Nature is full with homosexuality, almost every animal species has gayness.
Let me run down how this will probably proceed:
-Your parents 'make' you stop drawing porn.
-Your parents 'make' you stop associating with 'faggots' like us.
-Your parents 'make' you step away from the 'danger' of the internet.
Anyway, rather than watch this implosion where you end up depressed and bitter or just destroy whatever you've created, I'm going to move on. Take care.
Just to ask and all, how strick are they with this all? Is it just about genitals or such or what? Like, what about guys in just speedos or stuff like that?
It's true that your parents helped raise you but that doesn't make them you nor does it mean that they should get to pick and choose who you end up as, what job you work, where you live or who you marry. They are them, you are you, and at no point can they or will they ever be you.
It's also tragic that a gay person attacked your brother, but that was one person and it doesn't mean that all gays like that. Saying all gays are like that one is like saying that there have been plenty of straight serial killers over the years, so then all straight people must be serial killers. Now I know people don't assume that every straight person's a closet killer because they think it's silly to look at one and think all others are like that, but it's a shame they don't think like that for gays.
They may be extreme on there beliefs and no one should hate anyone for being gay .
Females are supposed to be with males, that's what's right because that is what creates life.
Male are not supposed to be with males
And female are not supposed to be with females..
Simply because that doesn't produce life..
If it did it would be fine.
I don't hate or judge anyone for there choice.
When you move out and live on your own then you can do whatever you want completely. But I don't think your parents are asking to much about stopping the porn art
I hope things go well for you, good luck!
I mean, its not that hard getting ANY kind of job if you're willing to. It just depends on how high your expectations are.
If you can satisfy with 2K/month, get a low-rent apartment, maybe share it with a mate with similar interests (furry maybe), you can kinda live your own life instead the one your family wants for you.
If i did everything my father thought for me, now i would've been married, with two kids, working in a bank, going to church every weekend, to the bar with my (many but not so trust-able) friends every Friday night.
Instead, I am a bisexual looner furry, single, working with IT, few but good friends, who enjoys spending an entire weekend playing videogames.
Took him years after I told him that "this is what and who i am and nothing you do or say will change that, you either accept that or you're not my father anymore", but he's finally starting to understand that.
If he was in the USA to begin with he would be able to do more than he can do right now. Given that he is in the Philippines, however, the formula changes considerably. Traditions there are not the same as they are over here. Also, not all states in the US have the jobs that people are seeking.
I was one of those who could not find a job no matter how hard I tried, and it wasn't until I finally moved out of one of the worst states in the Union that I finally found one. There are so many jobs available here in Wyoming that last year, around June, the state decided to get rid of Unemployment Checks. Yes, there are more jobs out here than there are people, and it is not just in the oil industry.
Its amazing how its been over two centuries since the french "invented" those ideals of freedom, equality and justice, but people still treat their children little better than talking pets.
Anyway, it's good that you keep up your "clean" art. At least, they're agree that you do continue to be an artist. And what an artist you are!
First of all the case of you discontinuing drawing porn is your own business. If you just can't do it then don't its not like any less of it is going to be a hinderence on others. However it would be a lot more meaningful if you did it because it was YOUR own choice., and not be influenced in anyway by anyone regardless of who they are. Life is all about making decesions for yourself and making choices that you feel is right. If you make a mistake then you learn from it. But if you listen to someone else and follow their own beliefs on what is right and wrong will you be happy? Can you say that you actually lived a happy life?
I'm not saying that your parents are in the wrong. Everyone is free to choose what they believe in as an INDIVIDUAL. Making choices for your self is what counts in life. If you just continue to live by someone's say-so that is also fine but you have to ask yourself, will this make me a better person? Is this what I really want to do? And most importantly, will this make me happy in life? If it was through your own self judgement of what YOU believe as right and wrong then props to you, you are a certified self decision making individual. Which in MY opinnion is what growing up is all about. But all I'm seeing here is your PARENTS own beliefs being reflected on to you. I'm not seeing YOU I'm seeing the parents own thoughts on this. So ask yourself again; Is this what YOU really want to do? Will this make YOU a better person? Will YOU be happy making this decision?
I don't have much else to say other than to make ABSOLUTELY sure that this is what YOU want to do.
My advice about this situation: as heartbreaking as it is, stop drawing porn for now, but not forever. And when you'll have a decent job, your OWN house/apartment , so your own home, without anyone around you to, dictate you rules, restart to draw porn my friend. Good luck with your parents in any cases ^^
Religious: The pope accepted homosexual people. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl.....he-church.html
Scientific: It appears amongst unaffected and untamed animal species aswell, google up the race "Bonobo" for only one example.
Family: Well, how about your partents stop being a bunch of stick-in-the-muds and accept that their view towards homosexuals is bullshit?
About your parents... well, I can't give you any tips, especially since you live in a different country. Though, keep loving your parents, they are your only parents and they care about. ^'===='^ *squeaks*
If I didn't change, I would go to hell, and everyone in the heavy metal world would probably kill me if I told them what kind of a person I am. That's what she told me while 'lecturing' me. No one in my family supports gay rights, not even furry.
I'm telling you this story because I wanted share with you with what I went through recently.
If you want to stick it out with your parents, fine. It'll hit you a lot harder in the near future.
I would rather stick to what I love doing, and not let anyone change who I am.
I bid you farewell, and best of luck.
Know, however. that Karma is a -B I T C H- And people who FORCE a person to conform to a norm that doesn't make that someone happy will feel that Karma; No justifications exist.
Whatever you do in life, may it lead you to a happier tomorrow.
Here is an organization for you and your family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_International
The sad thing is that it is exactly your family's ideology.
And while your family has done alot for you, it is also their duty to do so and not necessarily something you ove them back. But I can understand your situation fairly well. Either way I hope you listen to both your parents and the people in the community here and then think again about your own decision and what you want to do in the future.
You will have a different feeling once you move out on your own without someone breathing down your neck on what you draw. Though I may not hold my breath on this, but it's more better to hold off on the adult art until you're out on your own which you're not too far away from. But I do wish you the best of luck and hope things get better for ya. I do hope your parents would understand their bitterness would only hurt them for the worse and turn their personal problems around for the better. Sucks you're stuck in the middle, but I do hope things will get better. Also, we are here for you to support you no matter what.
Good luck and keep up the excellent work, and keep drawing!
If you have to stop drawing porn for now to avoid becoming homeless, that's rational, but your family is being downright abusive for threatening to kick you out over it. I hope you can move away from them and move on to a far better part of your life. Nobody needs a "family" like that.
it sort of makes me even more sad people here telling you to screw your parents and keep drawing porn. you are right to respect them they will always be in your life not any of these random people on FA who have no clue what religion or the meaning of respecting your parents really is.
side note it is also funny they call your parents cruel names and condom religion(christian?)..... ya Christians are the haters and the FA people insulting your parents are the peaceful kind people XD
I respect you for choosing family over people on FA
But seeing the situation here, I'm going to suggest on accepting option #1
I suggest you had to do it on option #1 and I'll cancel porno plan since your parents.
Family is important around...
But for now I suggest you to take it easy and have a little break. Right now you´re on a delicated state that might affects you easily different emotions. So take it easy on yourself to get calm and less stressed.
You did good by taking all that out and you´re the one who decide what you wanna do or not, so we will respet that whatever you choose.
Screw these people.
Honestly, listen to your parents. Cut the porn drawing habit. You can live without that. You can't live without food and shelter. Respect yourself, get support from your loved ones, and know that the door is not closed forever. There's always time later to go back and be a free man. For now, survival takes precedence over silly things like freedom of drawing porn.
Protip: Drawing dicks and masturbating to them isn't permanently sinful. You can always repent. Loving a man also isn't sinful - laying with a man as if he was a woman is (ie: treating him as a wife instead of a husband). While I've dropped out of being particularly Christian, the experience from being religious is all still there, so I know how much there is set to interpretation within the various scriptures. Play it safe. Set your life straight. Move out when you can/have a job/you no longer need the support of your parents.
Most importantly: Take it slowly. Do the things that you enjoy (within limitations, I understand), and take care of yourself.
The best advice I can give you is to gently let your online persona/dragon/character slide into hibernation. Let him slumber while you take control of your life. Come back to him at a later date.
I hope you plan to change that life choice again sometime in the future....
Hope to see you doing the things you love soon but until then, i'm just going to keep watching.
See you in 2016.....