"If you violate Paypal's TOS - (asking to pay fees/ gifts)"
10 years ago
Original post: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6715490/
celestina wrote:So Paypal has updated their ToS again.
If you do any of the following when operating as an artist on the site:
1. Ask your clients to DIRECTLY pay the Paypal fee.
2. Ask your clients to SEND PAYMENT AS A GIFT to avoid fees.
Paypal has now updated their ToS:
10.3 Actions by PayPal - Restricted Activities. If PayPal, in its sole discretion, believes that you may have engaged in any Restricted Activities, we may take various actions to protect PayPal, other Users, other third parties, or you from Reversals, Chargebacks, Claims, fees, fines, penalties and any other liability. The actions we may take include but are not limited to the following:
We may close, suspend, or limit your access to your Account or the PayPal Services (such as limiting access to any of your Payment Methods, and/or your ability to send money, make withdrawals, or remove financial Information). Use the Report Form link to request information in connection with an account limitation, hold or reserve – to access the Report Form, go to https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/h.....=neg_infolimit
We may suspend your eligibility for PayPal Purchase Protection and/or PayPal Seller Protection (Emphasis mine)
We may contact Users who have purchased goods or services from you, contact your bank or credit card issuer, and/or warn other Users, law enforcement, or impacted third parties of your actions;
We may update inaccurate Information you provided us;
We may refuse to provide the PayPal Services to you in the future;
We may hold your Balance for up to 180 Days if reasonably needed to protect against the risk of liability or if you have violated our Acceptable Use Policy;
We may take legal action against you; and
If you violate the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, then in addition to the above actions you will be liable to PayPal for the amount of PayPal's damages caused by your violation of the Acceptable Use Policy. You acknowledge and agree that $2,500.00 USD per violation of the Acceptable Use Policy is presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal's actual damages considering all currently existing circumstances, including the relationship of the sum to the range of harm to PayPal that reasonably could be anticipated because, due to the nature of the violations of the Acceptable Use Policy, actual damages would be impractical or extremely difficult to calculate. PayPal may deduct such damages directly from any existing Balance in the offending Account or any other Account you control.
PayPal, in its sole discretion, reserves the right to terminate this Agreement, access to its website, or access to the PayPal Services for any reason and at any time upon notice to you and payment to you of any unrestricted funds held in your Balance.
So in short:
PAY YOUR OWN FEES
STOP ASKING FOR GIFTS TO SCAM CLIENTS
Clients:
Report artists asking you to pay fees. Report artists asking you to pay as gifts.
Paypal. Will. Eat. Them.
celestina wrote:So Paypal has updated their ToS again.
If you do any of the following when operating as an artist on the site:
1. Ask your clients to DIRECTLY pay the Paypal fee.
2. Ask your clients to SEND PAYMENT AS A GIFT to avoid fees.
Paypal has now updated their ToS:
10.3 Actions by PayPal - Restricted Activities. If PayPal, in its sole discretion, believes that you may have engaged in any Restricted Activities, we may take various actions to protect PayPal, other Users, other third parties, or you from Reversals, Chargebacks, Claims, fees, fines, penalties and any other liability. The actions we may take include but are not limited to the following:
We may close, suspend, or limit your access to your Account or the PayPal Services (such as limiting access to any of your Payment Methods, and/or your ability to send money, make withdrawals, or remove financial Information). Use the Report Form link to request information in connection with an account limitation, hold or reserve – to access the Report Form, go to https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/h.....=neg_infolimit
We may suspend your eligibility for PayPal Purchase Protection and/or PayPal Seller Protection (Emphasis mine)
We may contact Users who have purchased goods or services from you, contact your bank or credit card issuer, and/or warn other Users, law enforcement, or impacted third parties of your actions;
We may update inaccurate Information you provided us;
We may refuse to provide the PayPal Services to you in the future;
We may hold your Balance for up to 180 Days if reasonably needed to protect against the risk of liability or if you have violated our Acceptable Use Policy;
We may take legal action against you; and
If you violate the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, then in addition to the above actions you will be liable to PayPal for the amount of PayPal's damages caused by your violation of the Acceptable Use Policy. You acknowledge and agree that $2,500.00 USD per violation of the Acceptable Use Policy is presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal's actual damages considering all currently existing circumstances, including the relationship of the sum to the range of harm to PayPal that reasonably could be anticipated because, due to the nature of the violations of the Acceptable Use Policy, actual damages would be impractical or extremely difficult to calculate. PayPal may deduct such damages directly from any existing Balance in the offending Account or any other Account you control.
PayPal, in its sole discretion, reserves the right to terminate this Agreement, access to its website, or access to the PayPal Services for any reason and at any time upon notice to you and payment to you of any unrestricted funds held in your Balance.
So in short:
PAY YOUR OWN FEES
STOP ASKING FOR GIFTS TO SCAM CLIENTS
Clients:
Report artists asking you to pay fees. Report artists asking you to pay as gifts.
Paypal. Will. Eat. Them.

subversive-imaginati
~subversive-imaginati
Or you know just figure in fees to your overall costs like all the other expenses and price your art accordingly.

DodgerWolf
~dodgerwolf
OP
Basically. Except for really big ticket stuff, an extra $5 tacked on to the price would easily cover any fees. Factoring in the cost of doing business is just Business 101.