Everything falls at some point.

I'm sad.

Me too. Porn doesn't bring fulfillment.

Naw. It's hard to appreciate a beautifully drawn picture and the hard work the artist put into it when it's all porny. All the naughty bits makes it less fun, at least for me.

I agree. They almost don't even put any effort into it. Fulfillment is about heart, sacririce, and true love, porn skips all those things and lies to us. I respect clean artists because they don't take shortcuts for watches and faves. They also don't feed people's addictions.

You are welcome for the watch. I respect you.

Yeshles. ovo

>w< Oh tankyu!

You are welcome <3

Sorry, but its not up to you to tell me what fulfills me or anyone else, this group was never meant for you if you feel the need to start that crap.

Take your own advice, please.

I am sorry you are sad the group that did nothing, will continue to do nothing, but this group has always been based in respect of artists choices, includeing that to draw adult material. Its very sad that part never made it threw to you.

No, you are wrong in this post as you are hypocritical in the other, this group respects both artists but nods to artists who do not compromise.

As far as doing nothing goes, you are wrong again, I've seen more art from this group in the last week then I ever have, I'm happy they are putting art out and I will continue to support the group and those who make it possible.

I am fairly certian I know what my group is or is not doing, as I am the soul owner of it, it has -done nothing- and if you cannot be civil, I have no want to deal with you.

Agreed with Mortis + Batastic.
I'm pretty sure everyone has seen female and male genitalia at least once in their lives. There's nothing scary or uncomfortable about sexuality. Therefore, it should be an artists choice to draw it whenever they like to.

Nobody is arguing against choice. I'm just irritated the person who made a group for clean artists is standing up for pornographers, and is one herself.

I don't care who made what. Especially when they themselves are compromising. Why should I respect such a person? Are they worthy of my respect? I get called out on the hypocritical stuff I do, why can't I call hypocrites out on their own hypocrisy?

You know, I used to sell hard drugs to people. People with families. It paid the bills and then some. Can you really argue with what I did? Since porn, and yes, even drawn porn, is destroying people's lives, and marriages, can you say a smut peddler is any better than I used to be?

Yeah, I stepped into their shoes. I understand fully. But making a group for people who are proud that they have no drawn porn and who do not want to draw porn, then standing against these same people when they speak out against porn, is crazy.

Yeah, and sometimes you have to get out and suffer in the workforce to make a living. I could go back to slinging drugs and actually make a shit ton of money. I made in one hour selling Meth than I make in an entire fucking week.

So don't tell me about putting bread on the table. But instead I choose to dig ditches, sweat and suffer and labor under the sun, suffer through anxiety, serious health problems with my heart that mandate that I should not be working at all.

What you are saying is that these artists are doing the easiest thing they can to make money. Sorry, I don't respect that. Anyone can draw genitals and sex. No, porn is easy. It's fast. And it makes money. But so does an honest days living. It's just a hell of a lot harder.

And yes, tell that to the wife who's husband is hopelessly addicted to porn, or the single man who will never go outside of his bedroom, as his heart grows more lonely because all he does is fap all day. No, porn is actually horrible. Truly horrible. And if you draw it you are part of that problem.

Only in these sick days is the truth considered condescending.

I didn't preach anything. Read what I wrote. I am standing up for what is right.

I do not respect those who do not earn it. Neither do you.

As I said, please, read what I wrote and try not to respond with emotion, there is no such place a such a platitude here. Please leave the religious bigotry out of the conversation.

Respect is earned, Batastic. Respect that is just given is cheap and holds no weight.

http://www.marriagetoday.com/the-da.....y-in-marriage/

Porn destroys marriages. Nobody mentioned friendships. But I guess it destroys them, too. I pray your spouse if you ever get married, is not addicted to porn. It will draw their heart away from you, where it should remain.

Just because something is legal does not make it right. Slavery used to be legal. Was it right? Beating your wife was also once legal. But I guess it's okay because it was the law... Be genuine when trying to convince people of your point.

Man's laws change and are always changing. Morality is true and never changes.

Dead gods, Your pet cause has nothing to do with my group, My group literally had one point, and that point stands, a artist does not -have- to draw porn to make in in the fandom, A artist should not feel pressured to do porn, because they are in the fandom, That has never, ever, changed, when I made this group, I was and still am a sex worker, I literally have never had a single bone to pick with porn, I didn't draw it cause I didn't want to, no morals attached, I wanted to do porn, because -I- did, and so I did.

Don't use religious stories to back up a secular argument, it hurts your credibility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MarriageToday
"A statement in the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability (ECFA) website, submitted by MarriageToday says its mission is "to produce, air and distribute religious and educational seminars, books, audiotapes, videotapes, radio and television programs, and literature to further the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ."[3] The MarriageToday website says the organization, a Christian nonprofit entity, performs a variety of functions:"

Morality is not based on any one fiction or ideology, morality is simply: Harm no one without their consent.
As pornography hurts no one unless they have an addictive personality or they are unhappy in their current situation and are unwilling to do the work to fix it I see no reason for it to be condemned.

p.p Calm poofs, calm. *pats gently*

I drew a dirty sketch on a dare once. Then I threw it out.

LOL! I made a crappy penisdoodle once and it looked like an upside down heart. o/////o

Eek... Confessions of a Teeny Poof Queen. Lol. >w<

Just kidding.

Right-o. Chiming in My two pennies, here. If pornography is leading to the destruction of marriages, then I shouldn't be sitting next to a wife right now. I should be incapable of holding a conversation with a woman, because I should be far too consumed with My hand wrapped 'round My prick. As a matter of fact, typing itself should be a chore, and I should be navigating one-handed with mouse-clicks only. I have -Terabytes- of pornography, and it is not uncommon to find My wife paging through them and spotting odd things to try here and there, positions, bindings, toys. It leads to creativity in an open and honest relationship.

What is destroying marriages is too many stupid people getting married, who don't have a handle on their desires let alone what they actually seek in a partner for Life. I'm married once. That is all that I will be. I have faith and certainty when I say this, because of the relationship that we have. So! Before you people start pointing fingers, looking for someone to blame to make yourselves feel better at night: perhaps you should study your own psychology, perhaps sit down with a nice therapist.

At the end of all of that, if you really find porn so absolutely disturbing that it compels you to hug your dick 'til it cries salty tears, then perhaps you should do yourself, and the world, a favor. Rather than going on ranty things against the person who founded the group and has grown through her life and decided that she actually enjoys something new. Rather than criticizing her for exercising her artistic talent in a way that makes her happy. I believe you should find that little 'X' marker up at the top of the page, and get the fuck off the internet. It's obviously too much for you to handle in any way that preserves your sanity. Yes. There's porn. No. It doesn't destroy marriages, friendships, or anything else. It is an art form, much as the art of making love has many forms, some of which don't always please the masses.

In short. Quit criticizing, you idiots. If she is happy, then who are you to judge on this rock we call Earth? Absolutely no one. Live, and let live. Peace be with you, and I hope that you learn to do the right thing, as you so steadfastly believe that you have.