I saw this video earlier on, just really curious as to what will happen next. I'm guessing backers will start pushing for their refund from the project

sorry to hear about what happened and ya lost a lot of money after all the hard work ya put in to this the funny thing is not but a month ago the guy filed copy right againt me

just because bot of us had a red fured red haired kangaroo that where fighters XD

well anyway again im sorry to hear this and I hope something is done so ya get the money ya owed or at least some kind of news

...yeah, the guy seems really quick to issue cease & desist and copyright warnings, even to fans who "misrepresent" his characters in fanart.

We'll I plan to put my char back up in the next passing days and again I'm sorry to hear what happend to ya and the other artist VA etc

That should of been paid

That's fucked up, yo
I hope whoever was in charge has a good lawyer, lots of people seemed to have gotten jipped

Not saying that you personally are in any way at fault - you did art for the project but AFAIK you weren't involved in any capacity with the money or administrative/organizational side of things, but, the way the people running the show handled it was legitimately pretty crappy. :/ Like, I'd say skip Artists Beware and go straight to a class action lawsuit if you put money into this project. Ten thousand dollars (plus) is a LOT of money when you're talking about crowdsourced content in a fandom as relatively small as ours.

I was just an art lackey hired for my services, I'm almost equally as conned as the people who backed the project on the FIVE kickstarters not being paid for the last bit of work I contributed.

You're one of the people getting screwed over the most.  black-kitten as well for the art he contributed. It's a lot like Enron was back in the early 2000s but on a much smaller scale.

Either way, this might be the fandom's Gamergate.

that may be too extreme of a simile, as I don't know anyone who's still supporting the game at all at this point

From what I've been following, the project was doomed to go the way of the Ouya.

Pity to those who actually backed it.

Kind of a shame about the Ouya really

Wow. This is incredibly messed up. I'm glad you,   LordDirk and   PommyN64 are all speaking out about this when the main BF account is shut down and being silent about the situation.

In few words, this won't come to light?

I can't say for certain, it ultimately depends what the game's creator decides to do with it

That's kinda sad, I was curious about the game! :c

You were part of the project? o.o

yep, contributed to the cleanup inks, colors and shading on the character sprites

my animation skills can't hold a candle to what our lead animators were capable of doing

good thing i didn't donate otherwise I'd feel real stupid

It's a real shame, it doesn't help though that it feels like Beast fury is trying to make all this go away without facing what happened, when I went to the comments of that video he commented on it saying that he provided the demo, from what I read I got the impression that he was using the demo as justification for not refunding the money, of course I may be wrong.

As devil's advocate the kickstarters DID say the money was to have a demo done to try to pitch to big publishers in the hopes they'd be interested in having a full game made with their funds.

I think we fulfilled that, though our boss failed to get a publisher to go much further with it to really continue going with it.

Okay, that's understandable, I remember reading the promise of the full game but now I know that was linked to the whole publisher thing.

Though deleting everything including the FA page (Though the Youtube channel curiously seems to be running) makes it look shady.

But from what I've seen on the FA page everyone flamed it with "Scam alert" "Give us our money back!" he must have panicked, has Juco, Dirk or you talked to him as of late?

I've been talking to him, that much I can say

Alright then I won't ask much more, considering my zero involvement with the project all I can do is let it be.

It is rather upsetting after watching this project since late 2013 and seeing what has come of it.

I wish the best to Beasts fury and everyone involved.

I had no clue this project was being advertised around here. Beast's Fury seemed like a fun idea, some sort of King of Fighters with characters that have animalistic features sounds fun (and reminds me of Bloody Roar) and it had some pretty big names advertising for it... but oh well I hope at least something comes out of this.

I was hoping it would be a nicer version of the horrible Brutal: Paws of Fury... Beast's Fury's idea was solid, just had poor direction

Project management is the roughest part of development... and is the reason why Kickstarter is so risky I guess... I just wish we could have nice things.

Seriously... this is disappointing and Lance I am so sorry to hear that you had to go through this nonsense ;w; *long-range hug missiles*

Real dick move by Ryhan, shutting down the FA page almost immediately after announcing the game's cancellation. That effectively left the rest of you guys from the team to have to answer all the questions. He should have been answering those questions. But he's clearly much too thin-skinned to face the questions in the first place.

Damn shame. I wonder how my friend takes it since he's a part of the team.

Sorry to hear that happened. It must be really frustrating when that happens, especially with the effort you and the others put into the project. *Hugs*

Heads up, apparently some white knight for the game and its incompetent creator has flagged the video, believing it to be one big malicious lie or something and upset that the guy called it all a scam. So the video may or may not be gone soon, depending on how well the YouTube bigwigs are paying attention today. :/

fuck man, im sorry about that. i understand what money means to you. but it also means, that i (even though i have no idea how to use money on the internet) have to learn NOT to give money to the majority of the people on the internet (kickstarter and other sites to similar to it). thats why, because im trying to get a youtube channel going someone time (like a few years at most, because that stuff looks hard to start up) i dont want to do Pateron..because im afraid of what ill do with other people's money...that shit scares me...i want to build a rep...not destroy it...what did you do to those people to deserve that. (also i didnt know this went on for 5 years...i thought it was like 2 years at most.)

Sad to see things go this way, but it's not a surprise. Very poor direction and management over a long period of time.

Hopefully something will eventually come out of this, but it may be a long while. I'm sorry you didn't get paid what you're owed, also. :-/

Well that sucks. As one of the backers though, I have to say how much I appreciate this journal and the link you provided. It's nice to finally get a straight answer out of what went down with it. I feel bad for how much work you guys put into it (and how poorly your team was treated), the people who pledged way more than I did, and honestly for the creator too.

That's 20 euros down the drain for me. To think that I wanted to contribute to the project by making a fanmade song about...it...now the thought just makes me cringe a little bit.

But after what happened, I cannot help but feel bad for everybody that worked on this project, including the main man behind the project...

I can't apologize enough over the outcome, but I've seen this coming for a while. It's just general inexperience with us all as we all learned things as we went on. We did stick around long enough to fulfill the original promise to have a two-character playable demo, but despite that, our boss has been getting quite a lot of angry messages from backers and people following the project.

As I said, it's been a rough learning experience of what not to do in the future. Currently I'm awaiting the promised payment he still owes me, in which he's already fulfilled the debt to one of our voice actors.

O yes, this must be definitely a learning experience for sure :P

If we had to stretch out the cause of the project breaking apart, would it be mainly the communication, poor money management or something entirely different?

a mix of everything honestly.

lack of experience, all the artists are hobbyist/professional animators/artists, so game development was foreign territory for us. We provided the necessary art requested as we had little to no word from most of the programmers aside from one

lack of leadership, that one programmer we talked to felt more like a leader who knew what to do to get stuff done as our boss mainly acted as supervisor, treasurer and suggesting ideas as it was his project.

lack of communication, which lead to stubbornness when we suggest ideas to make things go more effectively by cutting animation frames and other cost-cutting measures among other things. He also wanted me to show him Indie Game: The Movie so he could take notes what the other indie devs did, but couldn't stick around for more than 10 minutes as he got bored.

lack of transparency, I really believe the full picture wasn't shared to the backers and it became alarming when updates weren't coming up as often as the project started out

poor PR, I offered to act as his PR for a while knowing his poor communication skills, but if he's on other streams, forums and such without me, he was prone to start fights with other devs, fans and anyone who remotely insulted him or his project.

money management, we wasted a ton of time, effort and funds as the original idle stance for Matilda was all animated, inked, colored, shaded and highlighted and later the boss decided he wanted to redesign her... AFTER we did the full idle stance.

indecisiveness, instead of having a 100% clear idea how to go about the project, we all were effectively winging it. We resized the sprites several times being unsure if we would go full HD having them huge or keeping the filesize of the demo small by shrinking them. Characters later being scrapped for numerous reasons (one I remember was based on one of our boss's friends, but was scrapped as they no longer were friends), scrapping a completed idle stance after our boss wanted a redesign (as mentioned above), and such.

pay delays, we did get paid just fine early on, but it was evident he tried to pinch his pennies where he could as he stalled in giving us the paychecks promised, hired extra help for cheap to no pay, and the funds ran out fairly quickly as he tried to keep the project going despite the lack of monetary incentive.

low morale, it got hard to stay motivated without getting paid on top of the stress from the boss often got us verbally abused to hurry up or risk getting fired.

mixed schedules, lots of people in the team were juggling jobs on top of this project, so if a key member like the lead animator is absent for too long, the project grinded to a halt until his return.

lack of direction, instead of following things by the book (roughs > inks > flat colors > shading), when I was waiting from new animations to ink/color/shade, I was often asked to go ahead and color out the ones already done, which would lead to confusion as to which were already done as opposed to doing them all in batches.

distractions, our boss wanted one of our programmers and myself to make a quick flash-based game to promote the game on Newgrounds, he liked the end result so much, he ended up asking us if we could do a sequel... when we hadn't been finished with the demo we promised our backers. On top of that, our boss noted the shark character's popularity and set out to plan out a prequel beat 'em up game starring him and commissioned an artist for a fully colored illustration of the potential idea. Also he commissioned a talented CG artist to make a high-quality 3D model of his kangaroo girl so he could have her animated out to be in a shower scene, though once she was done, he later learned the artist charged extra to give the model and rights away to the client, so he got a refund from Paypal getting all his money back from the artist, despite the model was already done.

oh wooow, from a professional and my personal point of view this is one of these sloppy development processes where you'd rather drop it as soon as possible.

Must've felt like an absolute bliss to hear the project's cancellation. I mean, it sounds like you and many others would not be able to put on with the development any longer.

yeah, but we stuck around because it was a paying job, on top of that, we didn't want to disappoint the fans who pitched in to see a two-character demo done, which we managed to do.
Our boss had hoped if we had the demo done, he'd present it to potential publishers and see if it can actually become a thing with their funding. That didn't work out either.