Finally someone else said it!

If therians and otherkin were both legit, there would be far more people identifying with/as more "unpopular" species, but as you said, they just prefer to associate with attractive animals.

FINALLY!! someone said it and it makes sense lol we are all just human beings. We aren't a cat, we aren't a dog or bird or some fantasy creature. Just human.

7 years later and now you are one.

People change. Bug off if it bothers you

me too tbh

Fucking hell yes.

I like to think therianism is a voluntary type of insanity that's overdue for a cure.

As a person who got into it a while ago when I didn't know what it really way, yeah.
It was the quickest phase of my life and I kinda just woke up one day like "This is dumb" XD

This kinda feels like you're just itching to start a fight. Maybe do this sort of stuff on your personal account rather than one that's supposed to be a group?

Yeah....

"Let's not post anything for years, then blast personal opinions in a group journal and see how many people we can piss off!"

The wannabe edge is strong with this one.

100% agreed, same thing goes for Otherkins. Most otherkin/therians I have met identify that way for the aesthetic and acknowledge that, it's only the outlandish sjw groups who take it seriously

Eh, people have the right to believe in whatever they want. It's hypocritical and dickish to say otherwise. I've met good and bad Therians. The good are simply people who believe in reincarnation and feel strong connections with a certain animal (in these cases dolphins, lady bugs, rats, salmon and bears). They don't go running around trying to act like animals and being morons, they just deeply admire and like to be around these creatures (when safely capable of course). It is in pretty poor taste to not post anything in years, then come in here out of the blue and bash people in a group journal.

Not wise to post personal opinions on group pages. :L

Reincarnation is 100% possible just like any other spiritual belief... But it's also 100% undetermined and could all be bogus, and there's nothing out there to prove one way or the other. Therianism is the biggest rip on an old belief, and I completely agree with you. There's literally 1,071,000 known species of invertibrates ALONE, not to mention the immense plethora of animals in other families. And if life can be reborn like this, what about simpler life? No one ever claims to be a former escherichia coli bacteria. You are not a fucking wolf or fox or dragon. This shit is awful.

I would like to say despite your insistance this isn't a hate group but it a critique group, People on the internet seem to have lost the ability to tell the difference between 'haters' and honest critique

To be fair, you're not wrong about there Plenty of Otherkin of various species, I've seen Flamingokin, Batkin, Insectkin, Dinosaurkin and even Bonobokin so to say all Otherkin are Canines and Felines is not accurate in the slightest

However I do believe this Group has a vallid point and futhermore is NOT a Hate Group in that Wolves, Foxes and other Canids are generally a Fad among Furries

(To the Group Leader, a Question, I know there is a Fad with majestic wolves. foxes and huskies, but what about domestic dogs that are...Less aesthetically appealing like English Bulldogs and Old English Sheepdogs and Pugs?)

This group has their right to criticize, if this were a hate group they would a lot less thoughtful about how they phrased things, if this were a Hate Group they would be saying things like 'ARR those F***in' Wofies and Foxies! Just F*** Em!' But they don't instead they give very valid reasoning for why they feel too many furs take Canid Fursonas just to conform and the Group Founder does mention his obsession with Huskies

So in conclusion this isn't hate but it is the provocateur their criticism can be sometimes harsh but that is exactly the point, the words are meant to make you think, they aren't intended to make you feel bad

This group is what TV Tropes calls Devil's Advocate
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p.....DevilsAdvocate

OK...I agree that promoting more exotic species via artwork of uncommon fursonas would probobly be more helpful

Incidentally someone is doing just that with this project called TURF
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2035418/
Unfortunately the project has come to a screeching halt but do you know Tessy by any chance

But you know what they say If you don't like something, do it the way you like it, If I were take up on what you suggested and host a group focusing on showcasing exotic species...Could you give me some pointers on how to found a Group? Does it cost money?

Okey Dokey

Hey...This is Twiga...Or who was Twiga, I struggled logging into my account since the changes, so I decided to try to make my own group

I don't know how you feel about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Lupa, I for one am I big fan, and so...I decided to make my Group for those who want to make Fursonas who are also Fan Characters/OCs for the TMNT Universe, all species are welcome to join, and I guess the Group will not only feature fan art but also fan fiction

I don't know if it's most therians but at least for myself, I know it's fake and I'm playing pretend and that's the whole fun of it. :)

serious answer: the animal as a symbol, an aesthetic, or a means of expressing one's emotions will ALWAYS be more human then animal. the essence of an animal's being gets lost when humans try to interpret it through human eyes. i will never view the world the same way as, for example, a dog if only because my world isn't a huge clump of ever changing smells and i am aware of my own mortality, which is shit that a dog can't even fathom. i ain't got no dog brain in my head. however, an animal as a religious symbol, if that's how people view it? i don't give a hoot. if you say you're a wolf on any physical level you are very clearly Full of Shit and Also Poop but to say you feel as if you've got wolfiness in your soul (whatever the fuck that means) or you were potentially a wolf in your past life? very fluffy, cannot be validated or confirmed but also can't be the inverse since how does one measure soul dna or whatevs, i will respect it because i've got bigger fish to fry with people's personal belief systems, like white supremacy and anyone who thinks that coleslaw is enjoyable. final note "unpopular opinion" uhm among what community anywhere? nobody outside of otherkin circles and/or tumblrkin circles takes any of this shit seriously, not even people who dress up as stuffed animals, so idrk who you're expecting to offend given your opinion is the most popular one by far? enjoy stroking your ego to how hardcore and controversial you are i guess lmao where are my cheezits

super serious answer: i'm kin with the moon and if you disagree with me on that i'm going to cry for a million years and post about it 30 times on my blog

you deserve a beer for this comment

A dog can understand mortality on some level, they tend to know when their time is near and try to slink off into the woods to die accordingly.

thats an old wives tale a la "if you touch a baby bird for 2 seconds its mom will stop loving it". its another human interpretation of animal behavior. dogs don't run off to die Because They Know so much as bc theyre old, sick, prolly blind and/or deaf, and disoriented by the chemical washes all our brains experience near death. either way, ive never met a dog who understood its own futility, like, philosophically. unless the dog was a therian, that is

Most animals won't ever understand or even have a need for futility, but I would still argue they understand mortality on a basic level at least. Almost every animal will choose to live if given the option, even something as small as a spider will fight to survive when in a deadly situation. Can't say whether they think about it in the long run, but they certainly get the concept of death.
An animal may have a very vague sense of what we would consider futility or existentialism, you never see it in the wild but animals in zoos have been known to get some form of clinical depression. Although you might say that's just the human interpretation, and the animal is just going haywire from a result of not being able to act out its natural instincts. I'm not a zoologist so I certainly can't weigh in.

Wow this fandom is full of crybabies. I've been hanging out around some furry forums recently and most don't even allow you to have a civilized discussion because it might offend somebody. It's ridiculous.

This journal is kinda pointless and extremely counterproductive to what the group is supposed to be about, honestly. You can't blame people when they see the edge dripping from the OP

agreed - people are allowed to have whatever opinions they desire, of course, but it seems very counteractive to post a journal condemning difference on a page that is otherwise meant to be a group for the encouragement of diversity.

"be different - but don't be that, it's stupid"

Maybe most therians identify with wolves and foxes because of a hierarchy of the animals. Animals are ordered in spiritual enlightenment and wolves and foxes happen to be near humans on that ordered list of the most spiritually enlightened creatures.

A single lifetime is not much time to change one's level of enlightenment, and as such, most beings that are reincarnated as humans from other species are wolves and foxes, because humanity is just a step or two above/below those species.

(But in seriousness, the flaw in your argument is that one would expect a roughly equal distribution of therian species identifications only if all species had an equal chance of being reincarnated as humans. Maybe wolves and foxes are more likely to reincarnate as humans for some reason or another! )

Yeah, what is the point of this journal again and how is it relateable to the idea of someone making a furry character online?

i hate to say it but this is a very ill-informed and counterproductive journal. firstly, immense species diversity exists within the therian community - from otters to jerboas, from seagulls to belugas, from caribou to wolverines - but you have to delve in to find it. you cannot rely solely on the image of the standard edgy cringe-comp kids, as they provide nothing more than a false image for the rest of us. therianthropy is not a choice - the animals we identify as are not chosen, and anyone who claims to have simply chosen to be a fox, wolf, etc. is a fat-assed attention whore liar.

secondly, as far as the spirituality aspect goes, it is not as shallow as simply barking like a dog or meowing like a cat. this is more of a sign of psychological therianthropy, which is fairly often used as a coping mechanism as opposed to a significant identity, rather than spiritual. spiritual therianthropy is much more personal and intense than just 'feeling like a wolf.' you are of course not obligated to believe in, or even understand, spiritual therianthropy; i understand it is a topic that is bound to be viewed with skepticism at some point or another, as with all other spiritual beliefs. but it is definitely worth noting that beliefs involving heavy spirituality are generally much more complex than meets the eye, and it is not fair to judge the entire basis of a belief because some stupid losers made it out to be something that it isn't.

in the grand scheme of things, we are all human beings. there is no debate to be had about it. even i myself as a therian get so peeved when i see others claiming "i am a wolf, i hate humans, don't call me a human, nag nag, whine whine." unfortunately those people have made themselves into the poster children of this community, and as a result we have nothing but immature edgy children spreading false information on our behalf. therianthropy is confusing, scary, and off-putting to many of those outside of the community. and that's okay. you can love us, you can hate us, you could just not give a fuck about us. but at the end of the day all i ask is one thing - familiarize yourself with the whole story rather than just part of it - especially a part of it which is untrue - before forming a negative opinion. 🐾