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9 years ago
*takes the bone out of his mouth*
So I decided to put my two cents in on the whole Furry Network ban that's been talked about lately. Before I begin, I will simply state this: I am not in favor of the cub porn ban. I am going to put here the common reasons I see against it, and provide my counter argument of the topics.
Arguments against Cub Porn
-Cub Pornogragraphy makes many users uncomfortable.
Counter Argument
-There are art topics of various degrees that make people uncomfortable. Some people don't like sexual artwork at all. Some don't like rape artwork. Others don't like snuff. One cannot just cater to what everyone doesn't like. It would be the equivalent of going to an art gallery, seeing a picture of "The Creation of Adam" (Michelangelo), and going "I don't like this art. Remove it." I garentee any art gallery owner would look at you and kindly escort you to the door if you don't care for the artwork displayed.
-Cub Pornagraphy is illegal in some parts of the world.
Counter Argument
-Again, there are several things that are illegal in various parts of the world. In some areas, anything related to Christiantiy for instance can be illegal. It is not the responsibility of the site owner to make sure that their site complies to the laws of EVERY location. It is the responsibility of the individual to make sure they're only viewing what is legal of them in their location.
-Cub porn is outright illegal here. (Assuming here is the US)
Counter Argument
-You might need to take a quick moment to do some research. Ever heard of the First Amendment, the one that gives freedom of speech or press? The First Amendment extends to pornography, including porn of various topics such as rape and torture, as of the 1985 American Booksellers Association v. Hudnut case. And as of the Ashcroft vs Free Speech Coalition ruling in 2002, SIMULATED child pornagraphy (i.e. child porn that is not containing any real characters) is also protected. Again, this is all in the US only for examples. However, if you are wanting to complain about how its illegal in your part of the world, see my counter argument about being illegal in some parts of the world.
-Cub porn is immoral.
Counter Argument
-Easiest thing to begin with on this topic is to understand that morality is not defined by you. Sure, actually child pornagraphy is easily immoral. However, what we are talking about here are fictional characters in a pornagraphic situation. When we start talking about fictional characters, the concept of morality isn't as clear cut as one may think.
[Furry Network exclusive case]
-Ban cub porn so we can make Furry Network a great site.
Counter Argument
-You do understand that FurAffinity, a site that people have been using to compare to, has been a pretty big site for quite a while. And it had a great following even before the cub porn ban. I watched a lot of what went on during the ban, including watching several artists drop from FurAffinity when the ban started. The big reason it maintains a heavy following right now is because it had a strong following before the ban. However, Furry Network is still a relatively new site, and while I do think that it could gain the potential to get a decent following, banning or allowing cub porn will have nothing to do with it. The only difference will be a small percentage of people would be different between the two circumstances.
In the end, these are just some of the topics I've seen against cub porn. I know there are several more, and am easily willing to add those to this journal if I feel the need to. In the end, this is why I decided to skip over Furry Network and not worry about using it for the time being, effectively deleting my account from there (with their wierd way of needing to make a junk character, delete the original, change the email and password to disposable and junk ones).
Arguments against Cub Porn
-Cub Pornogragraphy makes many users uncomfortable.
Counter Argument
-There are art topics of various degrees that make people uncomfortable. Some people don't like sexual artwork at all. Some don't like rape artwork. Others don't like snuff. One cannot just cater to what everyone doesn't like. It would be the equivalent of going to an art gallery, seeing a picture of "The Creation of Adam" (Michelangelo), and going "I don't like this art. Remove it." I garentee any art gallery owner would look at you and kindly escort you to the door if you don't care for the artwork displayed.
-Cub Pornagraphy is illegal in some parts of the world.
Counter Argument
-Again, there are several things that are illegal in various parts of the world. In some areas, anything related to Christiantiy for instance can be illegal. It is not the responsibility of the site owner to make sure that their site complies to the laws of EVERY location. It is the responsibility of the individual to make sure they're only viewing what is legal of them in their location.
-Cub porn is outright illegal here. (Assuming here is the US)
Counter Argument
-You might need to take a quick moment to do some research. Ever heard of the First Amendment, the one that gives freedom of speech or press? The First Amendment extends to pornography, including porn of various topics such as rape and torture, as of the 1985 American Booksellers Association v. Hudnut case. And as of the Ashcroft vs Free Speech Coalition ruling in 2002, SIMULATED child pornagraphy (i.e. child porn that is not containing any real characters) is also protected. Again, this is all in the US only for examples. However, if you are wanting to complain about how its illegal in your part of the world, see my counter argument about being illegal in some parts of the world.
-Cub porn is immoral.
Counter Argument
-Easiest thing to begin with on this topic is to understand that morality is not defined by you. Sure, actually child pornagraphy is easily immoral. However, what we are talking about here are fictional characters in a pornagraphic situation. When we start talking about fictional characters, the concept of morality isn't as clear cut as one may think.
[Furry Network exclusive case]
-Ban cub porn so we can make Furry Network a great site.
Counter Argument
-You do understand that FurAffinity, a site that people have been using to compare to, has been a pretty big site for quite a while. And it had a great following even before the cub porn ban. I watched a lot of what went on during the ban, including watching several artists drop from FurAffinity when the ban started. The big reason it maintains a heavy following right now is because it had a strong following before the ban. However, Furry Network is still a relatively new site, and while I do think that it could gain the potential to get a decent following, banning or allowing cub porn will have nothing to do with it. The only difference will be a small percentage of people would be different between the two circumstances.
In the end, these are just some of the topics I've seen against cub porn. I know there are several more, and am easily willing to add those to this journal if I feel the need to. In the end, this is why I decided to skip over Furry Network and not worry about using it for the time being, effectively deleting my account from there (with their wierd way of needing to make a junk character, delete the original, change the email and password to disposable and junk ones).
PichuPal
~pichupal
I'm not planning to use the site, never have and likely never will. The cub ban has nothing to do with my decision but hearing people throw a shit fit over that certainly hurts the site's credibility. Far as I can tell they only did it as a jerk reaction to the fact people were all "Oh I hate cub porn, it's wrong, ban it!" Which is stupid. I pretty much agree with your statements given.
DraculKuroHemming
~draculkurohemming
OP
Agreed. Its really annoying. I made an account because of a friend, then two days later everything occurs, so I just decided to drop it pretty quick. Maybe I'll still watch on there occasionally. But I'm really not worry about things.
