i really need advice... [EDIT]
9 years ago
Unfortunately I've decided to erase the original journal just to keep Nick Cage and Stevie Wonder's identities hidden. Long story short, I've been having an issue with two friends of mine who are "really close" with one another but have a horribly emotionally-abusive relationship, with Stevie Wonder being the victim, and I was frustrated and unsure of how to handle this from the sidelines. Thank you everybody for the advice, it was all very helpful and I really appreciate the input!
Also, I love how you wrote this XD it's so funny.
and plus, now I'm paranoid that tomorrow when everything's okay again like what usually happens, that Stevie Wonder is going to magically hate me now for upsetting Nicolas Cage and his swarm of bees :[
also thanks that was kinda my way of coping with the situation XD lol
I have been into that stuff and at times I ended up being pushed away and then, they work things out and continue while they end up angry at me for trying to help XD so, they keep going like if nothing had happened while I end up like the bad one and pushed away.
Why would that happen? I don't think that will be the case, but let them work things out, you already tried, it's not your fault and none of them should be angry at you.
XD I noticed and it's very silly and funny. Just don't let it get you down, you are very awesome.
Unrelated, I was so extremely concerned for the first two paragraphs when you were talking about "Stevie Wonder" on account of being exceedingly paranoid and also blind. XD It got cleared up pretty quick, though, because I'm pretty sure we've never gamed together and I've been through enough abusive relationships by now to know when someone's trying to pull that on me and I...don't treat those people nicely once I catch them in the act. XD
After writing this journal, ironically Nick Cage came to me and apologized for his behavior towards me and for dragging me into their personal nonsense, and that he was having a panic attack and basically blurted out what he said in the heat of the moment rather than stopping to actually think about it. I forgave him for snapping at me at least but I really don't think I want to associate with him much anymore. And even if we do still talk here and there I refuse to get involved in their drama again. I really can't respect somebody who does that to others.
As for getting them away from each other, I don't feel like Stevie really sees what's going on and is ultimately just accepting this as true friendship. //NO PUN INTENDED// and unfortunately I won't be able to steer him away from that if he doesn't see it as an issue. :/
I'm glad you're distancing yourself from Nick. At the very least, he can't rope you into his bad behaviors. And, yeah, Stevie's going to have to see and figure this out for himself if he can. People in abusive situations often don't get out until long after others have pointed it out to them because they don't want to see what's really going on. It's sad and hard to watch. Hopefully he'll get away from Nick someday.
I think you seem like an awesome person and I'm sad to see you treated rather unfair, in my opinion, as you have only tried to help and even been really nice about it too, but Nick has turned you down every time you tried, and tried making you stand out as the bad person (or straight out just ignored your advice) even though you were just trying to help. That's not cool, and he is not being a good friend in my book :(
It seems like you really have your heart in the right place, but I think it's not a good idea getting too attached to these people yet >>;
Probably not much of an advice that hasn't been mentioned before, but I'm really sorry that you have to go through this (I have tried something similar, it really ain't fun -.-;), and though it's hard now, I hope it eases out with time. You seem like such an awesome person so I would hate to see you dwell on matters that are really just Nick and Stevie's business in the end.
No matter what you do I hope it all works out in the end!
They pretend to be ok people but as soon as things are not going their way they turn on you.
When cage says oh that's stupid or whatever just say I like it or I agree with wonder.
Honestly it wouldnt come off as "intitled bitch" if you privately talk with Stevie and tell him how this has been effecting you, and that you are not ok with how it effects him. It might bring you guys closer since you would be a support for each other. The biggest thing would be to make sure your mentally happy...and it seems like Nick doesnt care how you feel as long as your pandering to him. Talk it out, then maybe...just MAYBE consider that you need to tell nick to leave you alone for a while. If he cant understand then he wasnt worth your time and clearly doesnt care.
It sucks that you are going through this. I have been in this situation many times. If you need any more help, im always available
I would speak with Stevie gently about the issue, and if they seem like it's a bit like overstepping boundaries, then stop.
If you can go on without Nick and JUST chill with Stevie, I would do that. Nick sounds like an ass burglar, and people like that are not worth your time or energy. People change, and sometimes it takes some time before we realize who our "friends" really are. Eventually everyone shows their true colors, and sometimes those colors don't mix very well with our own.
If the situation demands that you must keep on interacting with Nick and Stevie if you want to play games with /just/ Stevie, then maybe consider finding other people to chill with. Life's too short and there are too many awesome people out there to settle for "friends" who make you feel like a mud pie. The thing that bothers me most is that, despite you genuinely trying to help, Nick still wants to sit in their puddle of misery and not listen to reason. People like that are exhausting.
All in all, I wish you the very best in this situation! Stuff like this sucks butt, but you'll be alright.
And yeah, Nick tends to Cage himself up in his own misery //sorry I can't stop making horrible puns LMAO// and even when Stevie tries to help him feel better h e just denies it and refuses to take any words of consideration. It's very frustrating and he puts Stevie Wonder through a lot more stress than what he needs or deserves. -_-
Don't let yourself be trapped in the Cage, and try not to let people like Nick take the Wonder out of your life //shotdead
Joking aside, I have a feeling that you'll do the right thing :)
Nick telling you to fuck off is still a red flag for being an abuser, but there is a possibility of him not realizing what he's doing. He could be getting lost in the moment and being hurtful by accident. And if he is having that happen, he will need help catching himself. Unfortunately that is very difficult and stressful for the person helping, and I certainly recommend you don't do it without preparing for it.