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Points regarding our President-Elect
9 years ago
WOW the salt is strong with the SJW crowds. Needlessly so, as well.
Before I get started, full disclosure: I did not vote in this election. I considered both candidates to be utter scum not worthy of my vote, and third party candidates simply do not yet have the push to have a chance, so I make my feelings known in the best way I could - by refusing to contribute.
With that said, the panic about the results really needs to stop. The majority of the bullshit being brought up by the folks who are freaking out aren't even actual concerns for two reasons, one of which SHOULD have been made obvious over the past 8 years...
The President of the United Stated DOES NOT HAVE the kind of power people think he does.
One common freakout I've been hearing is that "Gay marriage is over!"
No. No it's not. Homosexual marriage is now a right that has been affirmed by the Supreme Court of the United States. Trump cannot issue an Executive Order banning it.
Or, to be more precise, he can issue an order, but it's not enforceable. Executive Orders must be constitutionally valid, or they can be thrown out just like any other law that is found to be unconstitutional in court.
The only thing that can kill off gay marriage is a Constitutional Amendment. And given how much of this country have voted in favor of gay marriage, passing such an Amendment would be nigh-on impossible as an Amendment requires a two-thirds vote of the people to pass, not a simple majority.
And no, the fact that America overwhelmingly voted for Trump doesn't mean they're suddenly going to reverse course on an issue such as that.
The second reason people are panicking needlessly comes down to the Congressional results - the fact that the Republicans have majority in both houses. What this particular piece of panic fails to consider is that, well, THE PARTY HATES TRUMP'S GUTS.
The one good thing about the notion of a Trump presidency is that he was guaranteed an unfriendly Congress. He's not going to be able to catch them napping - they're going to scrutinize EVERYTHING he supports.
The only real potential issue with Trump as president is if something happens that forces him out of office early. Then we have to deal with Pence as president, who IS in the party's good graces and has a lot of ideas that are worse than ANYTHING Trump wants to do.
Put simply, nothing of serious note is going to happen. Every major change to occur in this country since the end of World War II has been the result of the actions of the people, not the government, and ESPECIALLY not the president.
It's no coincidence that I've noticed MOST of the people freaking out about this have only voted in one or two previous presidential elections. I've been voting in the elections since Bush vs Gore, and when Gore lost there I though the world was going to end. Same when Kerry lost.
Then something happened... I realized the world is a lot more fucking complex than that. I grew up.
So, this is my advice to the people freaking out over this: GROW THE FUCK UP.
Your voice still has influence in this country. You still effect what happens around you. You still have power. Just because YOUR candidate fucked up and couldn't get elected doesn't change that.
The doomsday predictions were wrong both times Shrub won. They were wrong both times Obama won. Get the fuck over it and keep trying to make this country a better place. Just because your President(and whether you voted for him or not, he is still YOUR president; He represents YOUR country) does not agree with you does not mean he'll get his way.
The Earth continues to turn. Gay marriage will still be here, LGBT movements will still push forward, and racist fuckwads that will feel justified and become annoyingly belligerent over the next year or two WILL get beaten down by the majority.
And Vladimir Putin will continue to be just as bugfuck insane as he would be if Clinton had won.
Oh, BTW, Utah...? You better be DAMN GLAD Trump won by more than 6 electoral votes.
EDIT: Upon further research I notice I HAVE made one tiny error... A Constitutional Amendment does NOT require a two-thirds majority... It requires a THREE-FOURTHS majority. So yeah, chill out about that stuff!
Before I get started, full disclosure: I did not vote in this election. I considered both candidates to be utter scum not worthy of my vote, and third party candidates simply do not yet have the push to have a chance, so I make my feelings known in the best way I could - by refusing to contribute.
With that said, the panic about the results really needs to stop. The majority of the bullshit being brought up by the folks who are freaking out aren't even actual concerns for two reasons, one of which SHOULD have been made obvious over the past 8 years...
The President of the United Stated DOES NOT HAVE the kind of power people think he does.
One common freakout I've been hearing is that "Gay marriage is over!"
No. No it's not. Homosexual marriage is now a right that has been affirmed by the Supreme Court of the United States. Trump cannot issue an Executive Order banning it.
Or, to be more precise, he can issue an order, but it's not enforceable. Executive Orders must be constitutionally valid, or they can be thrown out just like any other law that is found to be unconstitutional in court.
The only thing that can kill off gay marriage is a Constitutional Amendment. And given how much of this country have voted in favor of gay marriage, passing such an Amendment would be nigh-on impossible as an Amendment requires a two-thirds vote of the people to pass, not a simple majority.
And no, the fact that America overwhelmingly voted for Trump doesn't mean they're suddenly going to reverse course on an issue such as that.
The second reason people are panicking needlessly comes down to the Congressional results - the fact that the Republicans have majority in both houses. What this particular piece of panic fails to consider is that, well, THE PARTY HATES TRUMP'S GUTS.
The one good thing about the notion of a Trump presidency is that he was guaranteed an unfriendly Congress. He's not going to be able to catch them napping - they're going to scrutinize EVERYTHING he supports.
The only real potential issue with Trump as president is if something happens that forces him out of office early. Then we have to deal with Pence as president, who IS in the party's good graces and has a lot of ideas that are worse than ANYTHING Trump wants to do.
Put simply, nothing of serious note is going to happen. Every major change to occur in this country since the end of World War II has been the result of the actions of the people, not the government, and ESPECIALLY not the president.
It's no coincidence that I've noticed MOST of the people freaking out about this have only voted in one or two previous presidential elections. I've been voting in the elections since Bush vs Gore, and when Gore lost there I though the world was going to end. Same when Kerry lost.
Then something happened... I realized the world is a lot more fucking complex than that. I grew up.
So, this is my advice to the people freaking out over this: GROW THE FUCK UP.
Your voice still has influence in this country. You still effect what happens around you. You still have power. Just because YOUR candidate fucked up and couldn't get elected doesn't change that.
The doomsday predictions were wrong both times Shrub won. They were wrong both times Obama won. Get the fuck over it and keep trying to make this country a better place. Just because your President(and whether you voted for him or not, he is still YOUR president; He represents YOUR country) does not agree with you does not mean he'll get his way.
The Earth continues to turn. Gay marriage will still be here, LGBT movements will still push forward, and racist fuckwads that will feel justified and become annoyingly belligerent over the next year or two WILL get beaten down by the majority.
And Vladimir Putin will continue to be just as bugfuck insane as he would be if Clinton had won.
Oh, BTW, Utah...? You better be DAMN GLAD Trump won by more than 6 electoral votes.
EDIT: Upon further research I notice I HAVE made one tiny error... A Constitutional Amendment does NOT require a two-thirds majority... It requires a THREE-FOURTHS majority. So yeah, chill out about that stuff!
Just because he became president doesn't mean that his lawsuits and court cases vanished...
http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/report-w.....ade-it-all-up/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art.....TED-story.html
Just a few of the articles that come up when you Google the matter. If you don't trust these sources, look it up yourself.
When it comes to rape allegations and Trump, it'll take more than that to convince me they were faked, and even if they were that doesn't excuse all the other rape and abuse cases he is accused of. The guy is still a sexual predator whether this one case is true or not.
And you make some valid points and you are quite right, but im afraid i dont hold that much faith in humanity. Its the hatred that these sorts of results breed that i fear. The racist scum that support trump, which is the majority who voted for him now feel emboldened and think their breed is acceptable. It happened over here with Brexit, where hate crimes increased 400% because it was a campaign based entirely on lies and hate against minorities and immigrants, only now its on an even bigger scale.
I do hope something positive comes from the lawsuits and court cases, but again he is a rich white male, especially now he is president (or at least will be come Jan) he can make such things "disappear", so im not holding my breath.
Most of Trump's voters went for him solely because he's anti-establishment. They didn't CARE about anything else - they saw a candidate who was spouting things that PISSED OFF HIS OWN PARTY, and jumped all over him.
How many of them will regret it or not remains to be seen.
Even writing in Mickey Mouse will do more good than simply refusing to vote.
The price we pay for apathy in politics is to be ruled by evil men (damn, I wish I could remember who said that)
But yeah... We didn't get much to choose from this time...
You're still right, though; we need to grow up and stop panicking. That's what makes us so easy to control.
We're so quick to panic at anything we see that we can be herded like cattle, with the right lies.
It isn't Trump's actions I fear. People are going to be so busy blaming/bragging over this election that no one will notice the numerous laws, bills, and political actions taken over the next year.
No one remembers that some of the first things Bush and Cheney did when they were elected were to dismantle Clinton's efforts to hunt Osama Bin Laden, or try to blame Nigeria for smuggling radioactive material to Saddam Hussein.
And I've seen enough racism to know that it IS growing, and is becoming a bigger problem. Not because of Trump, not directly. But we are backsliding.
Let's be frank, the last time I read about a guy winning an election with roaring populist appeal and promising to "make his country great again", it didn't end well.
One big issue is that third party candidates are almost never on the ballots in every state, but the bigger thing is that the vast majority of voters are simply never aware of the third option until they see it on their voting screen, so they have insufficient information to do it.
Third parties will never be viable just from urging people to vote third party when they can't support the mains. They will not be viable until either system changes, one of the main two parties fractures(a real possibility right now), or the third party gets enough financial backing to go out and fight on the same level as the main two,
As for Bush... Frankly his presidency would've been at worst a wet fart were it not for 9/11.
Well this toxic election nearly cost me a few friends; some I got to bring around they were flipping out over overblown PR. Others....well they stand by what they said still but we've come to an understanding with some admitting they were wrong in shaming or making those who didn't vote or Third Party like me feel like shit. Thankfully more and more seem to be coming out of the wood work to call them out and point out how things aren't as dire as the Democrats want you to think.
What amazes me is someone made a post about this election more people are 'aware and educated on what's going on thanks to social media and the internet'. I have to laugh as no, ignorance is still alive and well on BOTH sides. Not all Trump supporters are racist assholes; many just want change after the BS of Obama's run and the "big government' bureaucracy that's running things into the ground and the encouraging and allowance of SJW-leaning nutjobs to get voices and cause this era of 'political over-correctness'.
Sure there's no doubt some racist scum in there, but so're some voting for Hillary for other racist reasons.
But yeah it's nice to find some.... rational thinking and know I'm not the only one just...floored at how people are losing their shit so stupidly.
At this point I stopped reading. You did not participate, therefore your whining is pointless, your crowing is meritless.
FYI, this journal is about why the people who ARE whining need to chill out and stop.
At least 90-95% of the people tho start up a post-election journal with "I didn't vote" are complaining about the results, and that is like complaining that one did not win the lottery despite not having bought a ticket.
I apologize for my brash reply, although may I suggest that you avoid stating a lack of participation in an election until AFTER you have given the purpose of a post-election journal. That way there will be less misunderstanding among people who have read too many "I chose not to vote and the guy I hated won, why didn't you other people vote better?" posts.
[ goes back and reads the original post ]
I find it's better to be upfront about such matters. If people make an honest mistake in dismissing it, they'll go back and correct it once confronted(as you apparently are). The ones that don't, well.... My words weren't going to help them, you know?
For one, Supreme Court appointments do not necessarily end up going the way the president thinks when he picks them - Bush's final appointment, expected to lean hyper conservative on every aspect, ended up being an important pillar to upholding the Affordable Care Act(which, incidentally, is currently in the same boat as the gay marriage laws), and has proven to be a person who actually considers what is presented rather than leaning on political lines. Exactly what a SCOTUS justice should be.
And more significantly, Trump still has to get through Congress on two levels. He needs to get his preferred picks approved, and then a bill to overturn things needs to go through. Neither of these are a guarantee with how much the party is against him, not to mention the changing public perception of the matter makes a serious challenge very dangerous for the political careers of Congressional members who support them.
The chances of Trump being able to do any real damage are insanely slim. Cause us a lot of headaches? Sure. But real damage? I am incapable of expressing how unlikely that is.
Sadly, I can think of more than a few things he can do to cause some real damage, mainly because these acts are also things the GOP has been trying to do for a while:
* Defund Planned Parenthood ( Removing the only health care center for many lower income women )
* Defund OSHA ( Removing the ability to enforce worker safety )
* Defund the NLRB ( Removing the agency Unions and workers turn to to enforce judgements against companies for violating worker rights )
* Defund the EPA ( Removing the ability to enforce regulations that protect the environment )
* Defund the FCC ( Crippling their ability to enforce Net Neutrality )
* Defund the ACA ( With no ACA money, insurance companies are not reimbursed for covering high-risk patients at a loss, so the companies will pull out of the exchanges, and with no companies in the exchanges, the program withers and dies )
* Defund Medicare
* Defund Medicaid
* Defund the Social Security Administration (Well, this is one they can't do easily, but it doesn't mean they won't try)
* Defund any other programs started by Democrats.
He still needs the backing of Congress to do the rest of those things, which would be an uphill battle even if he had their support since many Republicans do still support many of those programs. Even planned Parenthood is blindly hated by all Republicans - even among the Pro-Lifers some actually do understand it's not all abortions. The EPA, a commonly cited ting for Republicans to shut down, is not generally hated by Republicans, either, they just have differing ideas of how it should apply it's actions. Even the FCC, which you would think to be the easiest one to do given the things that were attempted over Net Neutrality, wouldn't be easy to defund since their regulations are key to helping the government do their job. One thing the government is hesitant to do is make their own job harder.
Medicare and Medicaid would be the easiest things for him to defund, but even then the programs are more widely accepted than believed. When Bush had a favorable Congress, numerous attempts to defund both repeatedly failed. Trump could try for an Executive Order here, but a two-thirds vote of Congress CAN crush Executive Orders, so if you can't push it through Congress it's generally not worth it.
Nonetheless, these are the sorts of things that are why I don't say he CAN'T do any damage, just that it's UNLIKELY. It'd be tough to make most of these happen, but it's not impossible.
And the Republicans shutting the government down over the poison pill amendments they were adding to the budget bill made their job easier in which way?
But refusing to cooperate is, frankly, ridiculously easy.