A late MLK Day post
9 years ago
"Justice Is Fairness
Discipline is Honor
Honesty is Nobility"
-Taladrian
Discipline is Honor
Honesty is Nobility"
-Taladrian
I meant to do this yesterday, was busy, but I wanted to post something in honor of MLK day, an American Muslim scholar, Omid Safi, often makes MLK to be a prophetic-like figure, in the idea that he's a social and spiritual revolutionary. Most people know the "I have a dream" Speech however aside from speaking out against racial injustice, and wanting equality among the ethnicities he also talked of economic and other social injustices as well as imperialism(ie, our war in Vietnam at the time which had a low opinion by the populace already at the time.), but overtime we idolized him yet take little of his revolutionary message, this exact same phenomenon has been done with revolutionary prophets such as Jesus and Muhammad, usually by the powers that be usually generations after who want to keep the status quo since it benefits them.
Here's a link to my last year's MLK post: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7323010/
They are three main evils that MLK names in some of his speeches: racism, materialism and militarism, this goes in the face in a lot of things we can still relate to today. And the establishment and a large part of the American people opposed him and his movement at the time, we may love him now, but at the time, he was demonized, by both the government and a lot of the people involved, though to MLK his biggest problem wasn't exactly opposition but apathy. MLK explains this in one of his speeches:
" "First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." "
And lastly here's a video on what people thought of MLK at the time which is far from any admiration that he has now. Any prophet like figure usually is met with huge opposition.
Here's a link to my last year's MLK post: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7323010/
They are three main evils that MLK names in some of his speeches: racism, materialism and militarism, this goes in the face in a lot of things we can still relate to today. And the establishment and a large part of the American people opposed him and his movement at the time, we may love him now, but at the time, he was demonized, by both the government and a lot of the people involved, though to MLK his biggest problem wasn't exactly opposition but apathy. MLK explains this in one of his speeches:
" "First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." "
And lastly here's a video on what people thought of MLK at the time which is far from any admiration that he has now. Any prophet like figure usually is met with huge opposition.
The worst I've seen so far from them is that "pigs in a blanket; fry 'em like bacon!" chant.
I know that the Dallas shooting is blamed on BLM, but it was committed by a mentally disturbed dude who was part of the more militant New Black Panther Party, which I agree is a hate group.
Back to MLK, here's a page showcasing political cartoons against 1960s civil rights and BLM. Notice how MLK is being blamed for the perceived "lawlessness" of the movement.
http://agoodcartoon.tumblr.com/post.....-cartoons-then
I really have no clue how you can consider BLM good, but whatever convinced you they're doing good things, show me. Please.
But more on-topic: Their tactics make a lot of people uncomfortable, even angry. But their favoring of direct action (which even some traditional civil rights activists have criticized) have nonetheless brought the issue front and center. You can argue that they're "fanning the flames," but I say that the fire has always been burning just out of sight and out of mind, for white people at least. BLM has torn down the screen concealing those flames. Racism didn't end in 1968, and the public institutions created by racists continue to stand and to subtly enforce the old pecking order. It's what academics refer to as "the legacy of racism," and what my favorite blogger calls "racism without racists."
So that is why I think that Black Lives Matter is a good thing. The civil rights movement left a shitload of loose ends that continued to fester for decades. BLM had to get noisy to get our attention. And now that they have it, the next step is for us to listen. If white people want a civil, reasoned and intelligent discussion, they have to be the first to indicate that they are ready and willing to hear the movement out, and that they will NOT try to knee-jerk rationalize, dismiss, or talk over them. Just for once, let us pass the talking stick to another.
If you want, we can talk more on Discord.
That said, I don't see things in America getting better anymore without a revolution. The federal government is corrupt beyond all hope, and voting doesn't seem to fix anything anymore, assuming it ever did.
But I guess rioting and blocking traffic is funner :3
Actually, come to think of it, there's a very example from the 1960s I have. The lunch counter protest in Nashville, TN. A group of black college students and a few white allies walked up to a whites-only lunch counter and sat down. They got the shit kicked out of them by enraged bystanders, and were then arrested for "disturbing the peace." At the same time, "moderates" both white and black alike (including the NAACP) bemoaned that "radicals" such as the lunch counter protesters were alienating whites and causing trouble, undoing whatever little progress they were making through civil discussion and understanding.
Read more about it and the uselessness of "legitimate" action here. http://politicalorphans.com/john-le.....s-right-again/
both are fruit
but their different
one is a apple the other orange clearly different.
as are current forms of civil disobedience blocking traffic rioting destroying your own community , like the sit ins a form of disobedience yes
but not the same as sit-ins or peacefully marching clearly different ..they were peaceful yet provocative for racist whites took the bait and when they attacked them the world saw them.,..but now the world sees these riots and you get some support but mostly apathy.
Also not everyone agrees with destroying your own community as a valid form of protest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ukE60gaRIk **
as you can see a family of one of the ones shot by police clearly disagreeing saying
"Burning shit aint gonna help nothin!
"we need our shit"
"take that shit to the (white) suburbs , burn that shit down!!"
**couldnt find an isolated clip while searching so excuse any political opinions in that vid. its only the first 30 seconds I needed for my point
Look up the balitmore city council
http://www.trbimg.com/img-52310d05/.....02/600/600x407
these people have jurisdiction over their cities police department. they should be getting shit but no..Police are treated like some independent autonomous entity which it is not.
again my city council from my home time cleaned house in our department...we dont follow the destructive advice of white liberals to destroy our own communities...so they can virtue signal over.
But on the subject of not agreeing with methods, while I can agree with not setting a timetable for another man's freedom or waiting for a better season, should not some methods be called out if they are truly erroneous or detrimental to the cause? In principle, I mean.