Punching Nazis
8 years ago
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It's no secret (especially if you follow me on twitter) that I am aggressively anti-nazi.
I will stand my ground in keeping them from making others feel threatened.
Despite my vocal stance I am to the core a pacifist. While I'm not necessary against a Nazi getting hit I cannot condone it.
This is not because they don't deserve it. They do, and much more.
But I'm also aware the position it puts us in if we hit the shit fucks while they take a "non-violent" route with their hate.
I had planned on this being a very extensive detailed journal but admittedly I just got off work (13 hours a day) and pretty tired. However I needed to state where I stand after my Nazi Flag Burning piece.
If you have questions please feel free to ask. If you disagree I understand and will do my best to listen to your view on it.
Completely support that sentiment. Am also the same. Any ideological view that puts one group above others, simply for being a part of that group, rather than merit or ability is horrendous.
I will stand my ground in keeping them from making others feel threatened.
Again, agree. And if neo-nazis ever gain any kind of power or influence, will probably be standing along side you.
Despite my vocal stance I am to the core a pacifist. While I'm not necessary against a Nazi getting hit I cannot condone it.
Yes again, still in complete agreement with you. Personally, I view that violence should only be used in self defence or competition. So, just running up to, even a nazi, who isn't doing anything violence and just punching them for no good reason, I will never support that.
This is not because they don't deserve it. They do, and much more.
Yes. So long as they are actually nazis. Unfortunately in this political climate and landscape. Many folks are falsely accusing others of being nazis, despite this not being true, and then using this false declaration to use as a motivation for violence, and then a justification of said violence. It is deplorable. Utterly horrendous that folks are not only falsely accusing others of belonging to such a horrible group, but then using that false declaration as a justification to use violence against them.
But I'm also aware the position it puts us in if we hit the shit fucks while they take a "non-violent" route with their hate.
Well. Yeah. Because then it is just a have vs. hate. And if you combine it with the false declarations of others as nazis as well. That just complicates the matter.
What worries me about what is going on, is that the far left keeps classifying people who are NOT nazis AS nazis. This then dilutes the term, and allows the ACTUAL nazis more ability to move into the spotlight and 'hide in plain sight' as it were. By calling everyone who has a different political opinion a nazi, that allows the worst elements of society to be more active and speak more loudly. Because they are 'just another nazi as called by the far left'. Rather than HOLY, THEY ARE A NAZI WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HELL!
I had planned on this being a very extensive detailed journal but admittedly I just got off work (13 hours a day) and pretty tired. However I needed to state where I stand after my Nazi Flag Burning piece.
Fair enough.
If you have questions please feel free to ask. If you disagree I understand and will do my best to listen to your view on it.
Well. I guess my question would be about the overuse of the term, and the misuse of it.
For example. For stating the kind of things I have said in this comment, folks have said that I am a nazi-apologist. Even though I do not support the ideology and views of the nazis at all. In fact, I oppose them.
What are your thoughts on the, now, overuse of the word. And the rather constant false accusations that are very very easily put onto folks?
Violence and hate don't solve anything and they never will. I do not understand how anyone can think that getting down to that level doesn't completely negate any superiority they might feel they have.
I've been on antifa events long before that movement reached the US or was relevant to the world. Back then I didn't understand why police protected our opposition much more than they did us. Today I do.
There is no way not to 'peacefully protest' fascism away, for obvious reasons. You just don't physically attack people for their opinion, no matter how horrible it is. And even if you just give up the whole aspect of going down to a horrible level yourself: making people like that victims will usually only make them feel more justified.
I only ask because there's a lot of hate going on for people that have never supported a nationalist-socialist government and people incorrectly being labeled "Nazi"
As unfortunately that seems to be the case more and more now, that folks are called 'nazi' purely to justify violence against them. Rather than them actually holding nazi ideological views as their own (or being members of nazi groups or things like that).