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ANGRY AT WORDS! (the word trap)
8 years ago
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OKAY, I just wanted to talk about how I hate the word trap, like why is it okay in the anime community to use it?
Like they use it over any feminine person with no boobs and a penis, regardless to their life experience or if they are willing do dress in a feminine way or not,
or maybe they just dress like a guy but they are a trap cause they are androgynous.
I was just reading though the comment section of a youtube video about anime husbands, and some of the characters were what I would call femboys cause they are feminine guys who still identify as men, but beyond that I dont know more then A. identifies as a man B. is feminine and/or wears feminine clothing.
How the hell does THAT = TRAP, every time?
There were all kinds of people talking in this reply thread, some rejecting completely the idea of feminine men, some making it out to be a gay thing???? some people sexualising feminine men, some sexualising young boys, some fetishiseing forced crossdressing and only a few actually talking about the traps... A trap is not a man in a dress a trap is not drag a trap is not a trans woman or a non binary person.. not any particular person.
Its a label of an act... a negative or positive view of someone who is (usually feminine) as deceiving the person that is seeing them, as to whats in their pants.
I am sick and tired of people loving it and licking it up when a male anime character is put in feminine clothes (usually by force) and being seen as super cute or mega sexy or worse as somehow good like.. for people to be exposed to this idea though anime.
Or worse someone who is usually underaged or just very feminine looking being prayed on cause of it, and it being funny or cute cause haha anime context.
No no no no no no no.
Anyway Here is a good manga about a transwoman/dragqueen/crossdresser, she has a super tragic life and a complicated one with a lot of violance and sexual things so if that makes you uncomfortable then I dont recommend it for you, but its a wonderful fresh breath of air for any kind of gender identity or gender fuckery in manga.
I found it as a yaoi but honestly its kind of gross calling it a yaoi, maybe thats just me but... here it is.
http://mangafox.me/manga/j_no_subete/v01/c001/2.html
Btw I love sissy boys and fem boys and drag queens and trans women and girls with penises or without and boys with cunts or without, I just love any gender sex fuckery but I want each case to be called what they want to call it or at least be called something by the definition of the act/person/event/moment.
Like they use it over any feminine person with no boobs and a penis, regardless to their life experience or if they are willing do dress in a feminine way or not,
or maybe they just dress like a guy but they are a trap cause they are androgynous.
I was just reading though the comment section of a youtube video about anime husbands, and some of the characters were what I would call femboys cause they are feminine guys who still identify as men, but beyond that I dont know more then A. identifies as a man B. is feminine and/or wears feminine clothing.
How the hell does THAT = TRAP, every time?
There were all kinds of people talking in this reply thread, some rejecting completely the idea of feminine men, some making it out to be a gay thing???? some people sexualising feminine men, some sexualising young boys, some fetishiseing forced crossdressing and only a few actually talking about the traps... A trap is not a man in a dress a trap is not drag a trap is not a trans woman or a non binary person.. not any particular person.
Its a label of an act... a negative or positive view of someone who is (usually feminine) as deceiving the person that is seeing them, as to whats in their pants.
I am sick and tired of people loving it and licking it up when a male anime character is put in feminine clothes (usually by force) and being seen as super cute or mega sexy or worse as somehow good like.. for people to be exposed to this idea though anime.
Or worse someone who is usually underaged or just very feminine looking being prayed on cause of it, and it being funny or cute cause haha anime context.
No no no no no no no.
Anyway Here is a good manga about a transwoman/dragqueen/crossdresser, she has a super tragic life and a complicated one with a lot of violance and sexual things so if that makes you uncomfortable then I dont recommend it for you, but its a wonderful fresh breath of air for any kind of gender identity or gender fuckery in manga.
I found it as a yaoi but honestly its kind of gross calling it a yaoi, maybe thats just me but... here it is.
http://mangafox.me/manga/j_no_subete/v01/c001/2.html
Btw I love sissy boys and fem boys and drag queens and trans women and girls with penises or without and boys with cunts or without, I just love any gender sex fuckery but I want each case to be called what they want to call it or at least be called something by the definition of the act/person/event/moment.
I would love to have a lengthy discussion with anyone willing or even just a short one about this subject or maybe a subject like
"Why yaoi is often sexist and homophobic and also promotes paedophilia and/or Ephebophilia" Cause I am really passionate about that one.
I'm actually curious about that subject, now that you mention it, and I'd love to hear you elaborate on it.
Here's my (admittedly unresearched) take:
As I understand it, yaoi is written by heterosexual women as a kind of fetish, the same way heterosexual men like to watch lesbian porn.
When you fetishize something, you're bound to completely ignore any unfortunate implications it may have (a lot of TF stories, for instance, can arguably be considered as a roundabout form of rape fantasy, with the victim having their bodies violated without their consent, which
From what I understand, the dynamic in your typical yaoi story is that one is that there is a older, more dominant character called the seme, and the younger, more innocent and submissive character is the uke. Often times, one(!!) or both of these characters are minors, which isn't uncommon in the Japanese hentai industry. When written badly enough (and Sturgeon's Law dictates it will be, 90% of the time), you have a very unhealthily portrayed relationship on your hands, with a severe power-imbalance and an abusive seme character. In other words, it's 50 Shades of Grey, but Ana's a dude who might not even be legal.
The 50 Shades series is mroe than likely responsible for people getting into or staying in absuive realtionships, thinking that's how S&M works, and people who DO see the blatant abuse on display might think that real life S&M is like that, leading to further stigmatization of actual BDSM practitioners. Badly-written yaoi can have very similar effects on the gay community; both are written by women who only care about getting their rocks off and do no research or editing regardless of consequences for everyone else, both affect how the communities portrayed are percieved by the general public, and can affect what people in the communities in question believe is healthy.
In all likelyhood, I'm talking out of my ass right now, feel free to correct me.
I just wanted to let you know I read it.
A lot of recurring tropes in anime are problematic, to say the least. Double Standard: Abuse, Female on Male is a particularly nasty one.