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Hellish exam done! Ko-fi? Patreon? Commission pricing issue?
8 years ago
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Ko-fi and Patreon
Commission pricing issue
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I finally got results in from a exam I did on the 4th of Januari. I didn't get to see the exam score but I did get a automated message showing my final result for the class I did the retake exam for. It's a 7.0/10 which means a good score and I'm super happy that I made it. I had put so much time into this class, redo so much of it that it became nothing but torture to me, I'm happy that's finally behind me.
Now I have a Literature Review I still need to finish, I finally started on writing it now though it's going slow cause it's still making me anxious.
Next week I will follow a 3 week class which seems to be a very intensive class. I won't be able to work on the Literature Review than which is why I want to get at least something of the Literature Review done now. I most definitely won't be able to draw those 3 weeks which is frustrating to say the least. I wish I could do my study and hobby at the same time like any person can do. At least that's what I expect to be normal. But to this day I'm still incapable which angers me.
Ko-fi and Patreon
I've been thinking about using Ko-fi and/or Patreon from time to time but I worry that it won't work out. I would like some advice on that.
It would likely just be a tip jar when used. Not sure what I can offer however. Whether my art is good enough or not I do run into a more practical issue which is that I tend to have long periods in which I'm unable to draw as result of me having to fully focus on study. On top of that the theme of art that I draw can vary a lot, I assume muscle art is the thing most people enjoy but I can't always deliver that.
As I understand Patreon works with either timed pledges (once per week or month), or pledges per piece. Timed pledges on Patreon wouldn't work because of me not being consistent with how much I draw. Meanwhile pledges per piece wouldn't work because I wouldn't be able to satisfy everyone, I would end up drawing a piece in a theme that some might not like.
Ko-fi might be the most doable than because it's literally a tip-jar, but I would still like to hear from others.
It would help me being able to afford a tablet eventually this way.
Commission pricing issue
Since I've been drawing lately I noticed some consistency with my art. I found a way where I can get a drawing done within 2-3 hours sometimes slightly over 3 hours. This way I can get a drawing done within a single sessions which works really well for me. I have a lot of trouble in getting back into a drawing I only partly finished. It makes me insecure as I get more distracted by the errors I made in the previous drawing session.
Some works I spend 15+ hours on, generally taking me at least 1 week to finish as was the result with the Breaker Pangolin piece. This is something I still have to improve on.
Looking back at my old prices a 15-20 hours and up piece was priced at €40,- which doesn't seem right with how much time I spend on them. Most artists ask that for pieces they only work 1-2 hours on. So I don't see the point in doing works like that again. With my previous commissions I also had issues with finding a lot of errors while working on them and never feeling fully satisfied with them. I also tend to get very anxious when actually getting paid to work on something because than I feel forced to deliver something better than my best in a limited amount of time. I never had issues with commissioners, it's self doubt issues, fearing to disappoint someone that paid me. In that case it would be more than a personal issue, it would be a crime. Fraud perhaps?
I did think of making the 2-3 hour rough drawings possible for commissions, I was thinking of something between €20,- and €35,- depending on how much time I would need for a piece. I might seem odd after explaining my fear, but being able to finish something within one drawing sessions makes me feel more confident about the final result. My personal value for a piece always goes down when I spend too much time on it. I spend less time on these rougher drawings so I value them more as a result. Perhaps it's also because I do these for some of my favorite artists.
I still need to draw a muscular character in this style as practice, I assume that's the most likely thing someone would want from me.
Any input on these things would be appreciated.
(Now let's hope I don't regret writing this the next morning)
Ko-fi and Patreon
Commission pricing issue
Study
I finally got results in from a exam I did on the 4th of Januari. I didn't get to see the exam score but I did get a automated message showing my final result for the class I did the retake exam for. It's a 7.0/10 which means a good score and I'm super happy that I made it. I had put so much time into this class, redo so much of it that it became nothing but torture to me, I'm happy that's finally behind me.
Now I have a Literature Review I still need to finish, I finally started on writing it now though it's going slow cause it's still making me anxious.
Next week I will follow a 3 week class which seems to be a very intensive class. I won't be able to work on the Literature Review than which is why I want to get at least something of the Literature Review done now. I most definitely won't be able to draw those 3 weeks which is frustrating to say the least. I wish I could do my study and hobby at the same time like any person can do. At least that's what I expect to be normal. But to this day I'm still incapable which angers me.
Ko-fi and Patreon
I've been thinking about using Ko-fi and/or Patreon from time to time but I worry that it won't work out. I would like some advice on that.
It would likely just be a tip jar when used. Not sure what I can offer however. Whether my art is good enough or not I do run into a more practical issue which is that I tend to have long periods in which I'm unable to draw as result of me having to fully focus on study. On top of that the theme of art that I draw can vary a lot, I assume muscle art is the thing most people enjoy but I can't always deliver that.
As I understand Patreon works with either timed pledges (once per week or month), or pledges per piece. Timed pledges on Patreon wouldn't work because of me not being consistent with how much I draw. Meanwhile pledges per piece wouldn't work because I wouldn't be able to satisfy everyone, I would end up drawing a piece in a theme that some might not like.
Ko-fi might be the most doable than because it's literally a tip-jar, but I would still like to hear from others.
It would help me being able to afford a tablet eventually this way.
Commission pricing issue
Since I've been drawing lately I noticed some consistency with my art. I found a way where I can get a drawing done within 2-3 hours sometimes slightly over 3 hours. This way I can get a drawing done within a single sessions which works really well for me. I have a lot of trouble in getting back into a drawing I only partly finished. It makes me insecure as I get more distracted by the errors I made in the previous drawing session.
Some works I spend 15+ hours on, generally taking me at least 1 week to finish as was the result with the Breaker Pangolin piece. This is something I still have to improve on.
Looking back at my old prices a 15-20 hours and up piece was priced at €40,- which doesn't seem right with how much time I spend on them. Most artists ask that for pieces they only work 1-2 hours on. So I don't see the point in doing works like that again. With my previous commissions I also had issues with finding a lot of errors while working on them and never feeling fully satisfied with them. I also tend to get very anxious when actually getting paid to work on something because than I feel forced to deliver something better than my best in a limited amount of time. I never had issues with commissioners, it's self doubt issues, fearing to disappoint someone that paid me. In that case it would be more than a personal issue, it would be a crime. Fraud perhaps?
I did think of making the 2-3 hour rough drawings possible for commissions, I was thinking of something between €20,- and €35,- depending on how much time I would need for a piece. I might seem odd after explaining my fear, but being able to finish something within one drawing sessions makes me feel more confident about the final result. My personal value for a piece always goes down when I spend too much time on it. I spend less time on these rougher drawings so I value them more as a result. Perhaps it's also because I do these for some of my favorite artists.
I still need to draw a muscular character in this style as practice, I assume that's the most likely thing someone would want from me.
Any input on these things would be appreciated.
(Now let's hope I don't regret writing this the next morning)
Pateron n co I personally do not like, because some furrys from here awefully abuse the system. On the other hand I have no problem to tipjar a comission. Maybe I'm odd like that.
For comission prices. for a Image in the 15 hours range I would suggest double the price at last to make it fair for yourself. Personally a 15+ hour pic may be more int he 100+€.
That sayed I agree with you making quicker pictures in the 2 to 3 hour range may seem to be more benefital for you. Specially when you say above there times where you have not so much time.
I wish I could give you better advices on art but you know far alot more about drawing then I do. >.> I'm more a comissioner type of person around here.
I do feel the same with Patreon, though I find it ok if it's used as a tip-jar. Too bad many artists give it a bad image. I'll keep it as a option for later when I manage to become more productive.
I think that's a good idea actually, you mean like giving the option for the commissioner to send some extra if they want to? I think I could use Ko-fi.com for that. Not sure if there's a another thing like that. Ko-fi goes by €3,- donations, I don't think I can set it to a specific amount.
I'll try to draw a lil announcement pic for that when I get the time. Most likely after this class is done.
Thanks for the advice, I think that's pretty reasonable for a 15+ hour piece.
I still need to practice a bit more with my quicker style to see how I'll do with muscular characters for example but it's definitely the first thing I'll open on when I get there.
Thanks for the advice it really helps.
Sorry that it took me a while to respond, I did read it before, just didn't knew what best to say. I did keep it in mind and thought over how I would go about the commissions and all based on your advice.