racists with their panties in a twist, lols
7 years ago
General
seen three people already leaving FA today because of the site's new anti-altright stance.
heh, good riddance
heh, good riddance
FA+

They are being asked to just not be DICKS about their ideals and keep the more extreme crap to themselves and off of the website, and they go fucking nuts.
Fuck humans. Fuck them. Fuck Hitler, while I'm at it, too. Good riddance to human waste.
I guess so long as you get to remove anyone with a political disagreement...
If I disagree with you then it must be that I'm an evil NAZI bigot and am now up for removal with the rest.
Keeping it on this site would have made it subject to certain risks. There are other places for it if you want it, anyway.
Same for politics. You want politics of the alt-right variety? go to one of those. Its simple as that. Tends to be, the alt-right calls for the loss of freedoms of those they disagree with, and don't think those people have any right to complain about it if their rights are taken away by the alt-right... so this is just a taste of what it feels like to be the one having it stripped away.
The alt-right also tends toward the....highly aggressive side, and calls in the past have been made for the death of people, or at least extreme injury of people, who disagree with them, or are hated By them, and this place is Not for that. You don't like it? Tough, but fine, get out.
I was just painted with the same "hate" brush by the previous commentor. How much of this is actual NAZI's and how much is just an excuse to get rid of dissenters?
The fact that you are telling me to get out says a lot. I won't and you can't make me. If I get banned for this, then it only proves how much of a witch hunt this is.
Alt-right is a code word for these people.
Anyone
Leaning
To the right.
ALT-right.
And no, the site owners can't be sued or arrested for hosting cub porn, otherwise we wouldn't have inkbunny. The payment service they were using threatened to stop letting them use their service if they didnt ban it because they didnt like it.
Frankly I only used the term alt-right because I've heard it applied by its own members to describe how they are different from the more traditional, stodgy Old Man Club of the traditional right. A faction more willing to take a stand for its member's ideals than they, who typically are mostly words and little action.
It is interesting however, that you accuse site administration of banning "wrongthink" when they clearly stated they are banning hate groups Specifically.
Consider this, if you dare...
Think how you feel right now, being persecuted for thinking, feeling, believing the way you do.
Now...
Now you know what it feels like to be every other group who has experienced this kind of persecution in the past. Now you know a small fraction of what it feels like to be Jewish in the 1930s, or African American in the 1960s. Not in its entirety, no... But a small faction of the frustration and anger. Know too, that the groups being banned? They are the ones responsible for causing those feelings in others. If you support those groups, then perhaps this is a justice that you now get to feel it too.
I don't want anyone to be banned, because that is the easy way out... to simply silence your voices is too easy. I could simply block you, and never hear from you again, but I will not, because that would make me a coward, unwilling to face the prospect that someone has a different opinion of my own.
Taking that easy way out diminishes us all, both you and me.
Do what you will.
It's pretty interesting that you actually seem to think the staff are sticking to their words and only banning hate groups when the vast majority of people banned in the past day have absolutely *ZERO* connection to any actual hate groups.
Now consider this, if you dare...
That last point kinda renders your whole rant about jewish people pointless because literally no one here was actually calling for genocide, nor have they ever been responsible for anything of the sort. If you have the sense to realize this, then perhaps it is a justce that you don't feel like the smartest guy right now.
I go down that road because I speak on the things I have seen personally.
My last point was made because I feel you should bear in mind why people like me fear you, because your side of the coin has some members with a tendency to forget we are all one species, and certain members have unjustly ended the lives of innocent people purely because they have a different coloration. This is why when you express your ideals so vehemently, the backlash is so severe, such as it is now. It doesn't matter if you or any of the currently banned ever acted with violence or not against any of us. All that matters is that some of you have. The memory of the horrors is enough to not be willing to even risk keeping you in arms reach. It was not meant to justify staff or anything else. Simply to enlighten you. You choose of your own free will to either consider or disregard it, but consider this a challenge, to Think about it.
I find it curious though, was that comment about "perhaps it is a justce that you don't feel like the smartest guy right now." supposed to be an insult? If it was, it was not well crafted. You misspelled Justice. You were clever, but not clever enough, but you did give the effort to try to turn my wording around against me. I'll give you half a gold star. Try again next time. Nastier people than you have tried to do far worse to me just because I'm a gay jew. I've survived them, and I'll survive your five minute sunburn just fine.
You're welcome to make a better attempt though. It's been a long time since I had a good, heated argument with someone, and I could use the diversion.
But neither did I say "its ok when we do it" nor did I say "they deserve it"
But you're sharp enough to extrapolate the implications for yourself, of whats happening, without needing me to come out and say it.
My statement of getting out was more of a recommendation quite frankly. Things are going to get ugly for all of us soon. I don't want to see anyone banned, even those I do not agree with politically, and I do not believe banning someone just for their ideals alone is just. There IS a difference between disagreeing with gay people, or not trusting an ethnic group.... and acting against them actively in attempts to harm them. If you don't trust an ethnic group or don't like them, fine, that is your own business and I do not care. If you planned to injure or kill members of said group purely out of spite for their race, that is where the problem comes up, and what I have a problem with. My own reaction to your side of the coin is based, I WILL admit this, on the overt examples I have seen where I live, where your side of the coin has a dominant influence on local government and I have seen innocent people die over it, while the law enforcement does nothing. I have had gay friends be murdered, I have had black friends be murdered. I'm tired of seeing it happen.
I just want the fighting to stop, but here? it won't. Neither you nor I can change that. It will get ugly here and the most either of us will be able to do is endure it until it passes, because neither of us have the power to enact the change either of us would want to see on our own.
SO if you want to stick it out, fine, I wish you luck. But don't say I didn't warn you it would get uglier, if you miss a shot to make an exit before things get stupidly bad.
"Tends to be, the alt-right calls for the loss of freedoms of those they disagree with, and don't think those people have any right to complain about it if their rights are taken away by the alt-right... so this is just a taste of what it feels like to be the one having it stripped away."
As for all this "evidence" about "actual" murder carried out by the "alt-right". Wow, I must live in another country because In America there is no way in HELL a minority getting murdered by someone with ties to the "alt-right" would fly under the national NEWS radar. And yet, next to nothing. More gays have been murdered in the Pulse night club by a Muslim than any amount of people placed under the "alt-right" label. (other than the occasional person that calls Islamic fundamentalism alt-right, again proving how misused the term is)
More importantly, it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to murder someone over the internet with artwork and stories. You can't get murdered on FA, you can only get murdered in real life.
P.S.
the cub thing I can understand -because- it is a touchy subject, and the site would have lost its funding and all that IF that art had stayed. while I don't -like- that cub stuff is gone, I -understand- it
Trump's Embassy Move Intensifies America's Immoral Support for Israel's Alt-right Government
Jews, or at least Netanyahu and his political party are alt-right.
It is entirely political. Alt-right is the new political smear word right along with NAZI and KKK. Slap it on anyone you don't like and off you go.
https://www.adl.org/education/refer...../pepe-the-frog
at least they stopped at the OK symbol
https://www.adl.org/blog/no-the-ok-.....-a-hate-symbol
also from that article: "The fact that all of these hoaxes have emerged in recent months is not a coincidence; they are a reaction to the surge of media attention given to white supremacy, especially the alt right, in the wake of the 2016 election campaign. They are also a response to the willingness of many on the left in the United States to believe that the Trump administration is full of hardcore white supremacists, a belief so powerful that recently a photo of White House staffer Stephen Miller adjusting his suit and tie before an interview went viral with the claim that Miller was actually using his hands to form an obscure white supremacist hand sign for “white power” as a secret signal to white supremacists who might be watching."
If you're told that witches are everywhere, you will see witches everywhere.
" Members of the site have ties to groups that have acted against the jewish people with violence, against the african american people with violence, and against the gay community with violence. "
Source pls.
"My last point was made because I feel you should bear in mind why people like me fear you, because your side of the coin has some members with a tendency to forget we are all one species, and certain members have unjustly ended the lives of innocent people purely because they have a different coloration. "
You fear me? ...you fear me. A guy on the internet with a different opinion. Lol ok. Please do tell me more about what "my side of the coin" is.
"and certain members have unjustly ended the lives of innocent people purely because they have a different coloration."
Oh ok more of this crap again. Show me one then. If you've seen this shit personally then surely you can give me at least a few certain examples, riiiight?
*siiiiiigh...*
yeeeeeaaaaah, go ahead and make me repeat myself more.
"was that comment about "perhaps it is a justce that you don't feel like the smartest guy right now." supposed to be an insult? If it was, it was not well crafted. You misspelled Justice. You were clever, but not clever enough, but you did give the effort to try to turn my wording around against me."
"Well, yer insult sucks because you dun did a typo, guy!" Nah, i don't care if my insults suck. I don't rely on them. They're flavor. The real irony here is i actually edited it to that because before that it said "justoce." And i didn't catch it before hitting save :P
This broad brush approach is exactly why these bannings are bad and should be apposed.
Witch hunt
also, get over the whole "witch hunt" term. it doesn't look good for you to use it when witches are turning up left and right
If being Anti-SJW is enough for you, then the broad brush isn't an accident. You're setting that bar low on purpose.
That's the thing about witch hunts. They always find witches, no matter what.
So, to get right down to it.
A man tried to kill me a year ago, because I am gay. My partner got in the way and got shot in my place. He is dead now. The man who killed him had a t-shirt with the slogan of the current administration.
Twice the year before, black friends died and a third was beaten until he almost died.
A month ago another died.
I won't humor you with giving names or anything g like that because each of them was a good and decent person whose families do not need further harrassment from people like you.
We're done here. Call me a coward or whatever you'd like, but this conversation is done. You are not worth any more of my time, as you likely will just dismiss this as well and anything else I say, because you live in an alternate reality like the rest of your ilk.
Your kind have overstayed your welcome, and it would be in your best interest to leave now, because even if you survived day one of the purge, without removal from the site, there is always every day from now on. Goodbye.