Questionnaire to study the effects of Toxoplasmosis for vore
7 years ago
Questionnaire aiming to study the effects of Toxoplasmosis to the vore fetish in general.
Intro of the Questionnaire:
"Toxoplasmosis is a parasitic infection caused by the protozoan Toxoplasma gondii. The parasite is common in cats and is speculated that up to half of the world's human population has been infected at some point in their lives, since the infection is usually asymptomatic and has no adverse effects.
While the parasite can infect most animals, it can only reproduce in the intestines of cats.
It is confirmed by research that the parasite alters the brains of mice to induce a sexual response in place of fear when the animal is confronted with predators, so that infected mice are more likely to get eaten thus bringing the parasite back to its reproduction environment.
In recent studies, it was shown that humans who had been infected at some point in their lives were more likely to develop fetishes relating to violence, submissiveness, fear, lack of control, powerlessness, humiliation and destruction of self.
(this change in humans brains is permanently, the infection is not)
This survey will try to find if Toxoplasmosis can play a role in the development of Vorarephilia.
The questionnaire is anonymous and no personal result will be correlated to a specific participant."
Personal message for this journal:
A recent study has shown that a very common, harmless infection known as Toxoplasmosis, which is speculated to have been contracted by up to half of the world's population at some point in life, could influence the insurgence of a person's sexual fetishes. While we know this to be true for BDSM, no specific research effort has been made in relation to vore.
Here's the questionnaire aiming to do just that: https://goo.gl/forms/9AdigJycM5e4B6ei1
Feel free to contact fyredraygg for any question, suggestions and to keep updated about the survey results before they're published.
Here are some extra sources of informations in case you wonder:
https://www.livescience.com/39772-p.....-unafraid.html (article about Toxoplasmosis)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii (the wikipedia entry for Toxoplasma gondii)
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf.....74704916659746 (the results of a study of the effects of toxaplasmosis regarding fetishes and behaviour)
I think this topic is very interesting.
Feel free to spread this questionnaire and feel free to discuss about it in the comments below. thanks!
~forceswerwolf
and fyredraygg
PS: The linked study also states that it seems like the effects are opposite for female humans compared to males. this could explain why most females vorish are more likely a pred and most vorish are male in general. (this is of course just represents a increased chance for forming certain interests and fetishes - not a rule.)
Intro of the Questionnaire:
"Toxoplasmosis is a parasitic infection caused by the protozoan Toxoplasma gondii. The parasite is common in cats and is speculated that up to half of the world's human population has been infected at some point in their lives, since the infection is usually asymptomatic and has no adverse effects.
While the parasite can infect most animals, it can only reproduce in the intestines of cats.
It is confirmed by research that the parasite alters the brains of mice to induce a sexual response in place of fear when the animal is confronted with predators, so that infected mice are more likely to get eaten thus bringing the parasite back to its reproduction environment.
In recent studies, it was shown that humans who had been infected at some point in their lives were more likely to develop fetishes relating to violence, submissiveness, fear, lack of control, powerlessness, humiliation and destruction of self.
(this change in humans brains is permanently, the infection is not)
This survey will try to find if Toxoplasmosis can play a role in the development of Vorarephilia.
The questionnaire is anonymous and no personal result will be correlated to a specific participant."
Personal message for this journal:
A recent study has shown that a very common, harmless infection known as Toxoplasmosis, which is speculated to have been contracted by up to half of the world's population at some point in life, could influence the insurgence of a person's sexual fetishes. While we know this to be true for BDSM, no specific research effort has been made in relation to vore.
Here's the questionnaire aiming to do just that: https://goo.gl/forms/9AdigJycM5e4B6ei1
Feel free to contact fyredraygg for any question, suggestions and to keep updated about the survey results before they're published.
Here are some extra sources of informations in case you wonder:
https://www.livescience.com/39772-p.....-unafraid.html (article about Toxoplasmosis)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii (the wikipedia entry for Toxoplasma gondii)
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf.....74704916659746 (the results of a study of the effects of toxaplasmosis regarding fetishes and behaviour)
I think this topic is very interesting.
Feel free to spread this questionnaire and feel free to discuss about it in the comments below. thanks!
~forceswerwolf
and fyredraygg
PS: The linked study also states that it seems like the effects are opposite for female humans compared to males. this could explain why most females vorish are more likely a pred and most vorish are male in general. (this is of course just represents a increased chance for forming certain interests and fetishes - not a rule.)
I will tweak the question to clarify, thanks for your feedback
a lot people think vore is a disgusting idea and therefor am able to fight it pretty well, or do not admit it. I for example know a lot who like vore but hate themselfs for it and do not admit it open public.
it does have several other effects too (vore might just be a side effect, even though that is the target of the parasite) like for males being more reckless and willing to take risks in general. and for females the opposite, being more dominant. etc...
It is also said to be connected with depressions and anxiety patients. there is a lot to study about this, which is why this is interesting. but fact is that it does influence for sure, just how and how much is unclear.
I've been around cats since forever and they've seldom caught any mice or rats and my first instance of liking vore was... I think it was either the Sarlacc and Rancor when watching Return of the Jedi followed by things like Yoshi's grab in Super Smash Bros. Melee. There was a few other instances like the Barnacle of Half-Life 2 but I think my fantasy in it took off sometime in 2009 when I discovered the definition and
it is also possible to get infected through other humans, dogs or raw meat. there are a lot of ways.
and yes. being skeptical is fine and expected.
and of course you need to see vore in action to get ideas about if you enjoy it or not.
the infection might just increase the chance that you will get ideas about it if you spot it.
and we do NOT say that the infection IS the reason. no we just say it might add a few percentages to the chance, but is not the main reason.
and this is interesting trivia in how much it might influence it if it even does at all.
it lowers the fear for danger and risk in general for human males even in sexuality and getting eaten for mice, that could help with a vore fetish. who knows. it's just for fun. no we look for the ultimate cause thing. x3
It's interesting in my eyes.
you get called crazy for it because people missunderstand and think we try to find a reason to justify why we like vore, but thats not the case. it's just interesting trivia to know how much it might influence the chances. nothing more or less.
I think it's likely that there is no relationship, and that we may just have confirmation bias or be looking for an easy explanation; but a relationship between vorarephilia and toxoplasmosis is still plausible, even if there's no direct evidence for it. Thinking that there might be a relationship just means that you're considering a possibility; if you are asserting that there must be a relationship, that would not be reasonable, as we don't have sufficient evidence to assert that; but it is a hypothesis worth investigating.
tl;dr: more research is needed. "more research is needed" is a cliché at this point, but it's still true.
if we discover that, let's take some made up numbers: ... that let's say a normal human got a chance of 3 out of 100000 of developing a vore fetish in their life and we discover that infected people have a chance of 4 out of 100000... so how does that even matter?
the linked study shows that the infection indeed changed their behaviour, and their sexual interests. I see no harm in researching for fun how much it could influence the vore fetish since it was left out in the study.
such a parasite got no power about what you want to like and think and what not. you can still choose to never like vore even though you had the infection. it can just increase the chance of you accepting the idea of liking it to a degree. and that's it.
when we'll post results we'll add reminders that it is not the main source. can't do more can't do less.
Interesting idea! It does make sense.
I think the idea is fun, but no general excuse for why someone likes vore, it just increases the chance slightly. everyone, even infected can choose not to like vore. and we want to see how much it might influence or if it even does at all. but yeah I think that is an interesting idea. without a gut feeling when you see vore for the first time you'll just dismiss it and move on.
we will post about it in some reasonable time in the future.
the subject is very interesting
So let me squash your hypotheses immediately: correlation to behavioral disorders has been researched and found to be none. Correlation to schizophrenia has been theorized but disproven. Autism is a completely different phenomenon and is totally unrelated.
Isn't that also part of what we try to find out with this?
~forces
To clarify my post:
We don't know exactly what is left behind, but we know what isn't: no permanent changes to the physical structure of the brain and no direct influence on one's psychology. So illnesses such as behavioural disorders and the autistic spectrum are far out, and it's very important to make it clear in order to avoid misleading messages.
That being said, some hypotheses on what MIGHT be left behind: it's possible that the brain chemistry continues to be nudged a certain way throughout life, due to the constant presence of the immunological response to the dormant parasites which remain for life in the neural tissue. Of course this influence is very much reduced from when the parasite is active, but we currently don't know the extent of it.
Lastly, what we are almost certain is left behind: the parasite's chemical alterations influence mostly the amygdala, a region of the brain relating to memory and stimuli response. As everyone knows, we respond to new situations by comparison to previous knowledge. These patterns form our judgement criteria, which constitute (part of) the data 'stored' in the amygdala. (Please bear in mind this is my simplification of advanced medical topics) When the infection 'tampers' with our amygdala, it leaves behind changes in that data which may influence our response to stimuli at any further point in time.
Let me however remark this: none of these influences can be cause of mental illness or autism. They are simply different matters entirely, and making that crystal clear is my foremost priority
make sure to read fyre's reply too.
what we talk about are mainly infections once more or less grown up.
and sure could be realted... if you got any sources to link for this, than it would help us a lot as well.
That being said, another word of advice: be very very very cautious about what they say on TV. Right now they use autism as ketchup for their drama, they put it everywhere. If we were to believe them, 90% of what we come into contact with daily would make us autistic. Take a moment to read up what's been discovered so far about what autism really is and you'll notice that it has nothing to do with infective pathologies or vaccines or fizzy drinks (yes, they said that too).
Regardless, thank you for contributing your opinion. Debate is key to science
1. It does NOT need to anger you. And you should not hate to like vore. Why? Because that's not the fetish' fault that not many IRL people like it. But on the other hand...to be honest there are a lot people out there who like it and it is possible to have a lot friends who like it. My IRL GF is a pred, I am a prey. I life with 3 other vore furs in a shared home. My also vorish ex does have a vore tollerant non furry GF. He also suffered from the lack of interest to normal sex. So it is possible. And time and tollerance will change as well. Just be carefull. The internet helps.
2. It is NOT preventable. Why? You can get infected any time. No cat's need to be involved, not at all. And befor you get it and "start to like vore" this would not even be a topic for you, you could not care less about it and would not have done anything to prevent to get infected as it is harmless for humans and nobody. And you would have prob. never heard about it otherwise, so even going back in time would not help here unless you bring your knowledge with you from the future.
3. It is NOT the source of the vore fetish! Why? It lowers fear and makes it easier for most people to accept risks or dangerous situations. And even if it would magicly add vorish thoughts to your brain (which it does not/should not) it is your own decission to start to like it or not. Just like you would want to hit some mean people in the face when they do shit to you, but you don't do. It's still your decission what you do regarless. Also a real fetish forms after letting it in your mind for a long time, and that is your decission too.
4. There are woman out there who like dominant males, there are woman out there who like submissive males and some who like both or inbetween. You can't blame that to toxoplasmosis - not at all. And if you really really want to blame it on toxoplasmosis than know that the effects of it are kinda the revese for females: This means there should be more dom females who like guys like you than befor toxoplasmosis. Not to mention that those effects are in the worst case JUST tweeking a few percentages of tollerance, and are no full triggers for fetishes or how you will behave.
5. Be yourself. Don't see not finding a fitting partner as suffering, enjoy your time. There are a lot things I miss from the times I was single.
You will reach what you want if you just try and accept it. If you suffer from it others will notice and that makes them back off. People like happy people.
~forces
furaffinity search for bondage: 213045 hits.
furaffinity search for paws: 324363 hits.
furaffinity search for vore: 298389 hits.
vore is catching up in the category of secondary mainstream fetishes in the furry fandom.
Give it another 10 years and people in the fandom will think it's one of the most normal things in the world. Also let the furry fandom itself grow (it grows fast) and your chances of finding a good partner will be higher and higher in the near future. (if you want to stick with only dating furries.)
~forces
A possible counter argument however would be the previously observed psychological phenomenon in which our minds turn our fears into fetishes during development as a coping mechanism. But if HALF THE POPULATION has this bacteria, then I suppose the phenomenon could still be attributed to the bug.
Also correlation does not mean causality
Quick edit: I want to mention that vore continues to be the thing I get off most to, and sometimes a RP or vore art is more pleasant than having sex with prostitutes
Toxoplasmosis isn't "cat pee", it's a common parasite, which infects about 25% of people in Europe and about 15% of people in the USA. Toxoplasma infection has demonstrable effects on inhibitions and attraction towards cats.
"Effects of toxoplasmosis is incredibly rare in humans"
This is scientifically incorrect. Up to 1/3 of people worldwide are though to be infected with Toxoplasma. It's probably somewhat less than that (likely around 5-10% for the global population), but even that is still very significant. Toxoplasmosis has measurable psychological effects.
https://www.frontiersin.org/article.....22.803502/full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar.....es/PMC2526142/