Quit snidely playing a little victim and whining about nonsense like FA being run by "SJWs". This is still posted. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/27812628/

I made a report against that disgusting provocateur shit a few months back and this is the response I got from the site staff. They don't care. https://i.imgur.com/aIhMqv8.png

I have not been a victim yet...just disagreed with their policy. I do not think you should ban anything...including nazi symbols. My point was saying by banning that, you also ban protest against those symbols, like this video from 70 yrs ago, which I love.

Why not ban Nazi symbols? Also, why would banning them also ban the likes of Charlie Chaplin's response to them?

you answered it for me...by banning nazi symbols you ban responses to nazism ....you would ban his movie criticizing it...also maybe comic book MAUS...just 2 examples because they use nazi symbolism.

Hell me and collab, talked about creating art showing hitler throwing away MAGA hat, saying, we did it better. Could not post that here due to ban. see? It bands political speech, the most important kind of speech.

I didn't. You think there's some sort of slippery slope where there isn't one. Things like Chaplin's condemnation of hate dictatorship would be welcome on here, perhaps applauded, not banned.

I don't think that's the real reason; I think you're just another one of those guys who'd mock and laugh at people who are disgusted by things like the image I linked to, and who'd also RUN to the defense of those who post such images.

lil time and dont even remember your link...and no by rules nazi symbols chaplin SHOULD be banned

at same time, chaplin was far too enamored of communism..., both are 2 ends of socialist spectrum, capitalism solves all problems best....anyone who disagrees does not know economics.

Communism, if implemented successfully, gives everyone equal possession of production, and eliminates class separation as well as the need for money in society. I don't push for communism myself but I respect those who do.

Capitalism, on the other hand, doesn't give a rat's ass about doing anything for the lower class, it is indifferent and only directly benefits those who manage business, who are expected to be charitable for the poor and pay their employees fairly... little do they ever actually care to be charitable or pay fairly, though, so with capitalism the poor can all go fuck themselves it seems. Now we have crony capitalism where lobbying and corporate welfare are rampant.

what a good lil commie you are....hate to tell you commies dont give a rat's ass about lower class either...

here's the difference...capitalism absolutely is best system for distributing resources to who needs them most, ever IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. Morever its a self correcting system...let me elaborate.

price gouging in natural disaster...socialist say this is wrong and we will price fix shortages...common mistake...I'm sure you have basic economics of price/demand/supply curves....these are independent of policy....so socialist government wants to fix price when demand is high...what happens according to theory...shortages of supply, as suppliers will not supply at cost lower than their cost. See Venezuela right now. However...if you let it naturally take place...say shortage of water...people would start trucking in water at $30 a barrel...when they got there...they would have to compete with other shippers...25 dollars a barrel...20 dollars...eventually the guy who could ship it cheapest at cheapest price would win out...so people wanting water would very quickly get water at cheapest price, or else someone would swoop in offering lower price...

one example how capitalism is better than socialism...you can apply that to wages as thats a commodity too on open market and allocates that according to demand best.

But historically its brought more people out of poverty in last 100 yrs than any other system, say communism which killed 100 million people with failed allocation of resources. or socialism which stagnates growth...

so yeah...capitalism does great thing for lower class. As many people have said...our lower class lives better than royalty 500 yrs ago...they eat meat...refrigeration, smart phones, internet. access to all world info, the poorest among us btw...can contact the world..

PS crony capitalism is socialism not capitalism, free markets.

You mention Venezuela again, unsurprisingly. I suspect you expect me to defend Maduro. The Venezuelan government of Chavez relied heavily on oil exports to support their economy, then Saudi Arabia massively and needlessly undercut them to the point where if they wanted to compete they'd have to undo their social programs or go bankrupt. They allowed themselves to collapse totally at the expense of the people, those in power there don't care. Maduro, as well as Bin Salman of Saud, is a tyrant and I wish his people had the power to fucking string him up like Mussolini.

Ooh, it's not capitalism? Let me guess, if I bring up the successes of modern social democracies in Europe, you'll tell me that doesn't count as a good point for socialist policies? If I mention something like Leopold II's Congo you'll tell me that doesn't count as a horror of capitalist ventures? I could concede some points both ways, yet you'll insist that all the good in the world is thanks to capitalism, all the evil is the fault of socialism and communism. I've gone through this horseshit before with other jackbootlickers, I know the dance you do.

well the saudis did that to try to undercut capitalist flood the market with supply.,.backfired because capitalism WON. Supply innovated...made things cheaper. so let's stick to just this story...shale drillers innovated...they will now produce as much oil as the saudis can this year,.,and net exporters for US...

because of capitalism...the US is now a net exporter of oil....and they have a 300 year supply of petrol...not to mention 300 yrs in canada if treudeu gets canned...hell theres talk in canada alberta will be 51st state of US as its the only province in canada giving more to federal revenue than taking more out, and legally they can secede....if I was trump screw canada, 51st state welcome.

can you tell me any commie state that succeeded?

I'll tell you why...Laws of economics.

1. Paredo principle...now matter what...20% of people will own or control 80% of stuff. This was done in 1900s italy and proved to be consistent...It may be a biological principal too. Strongest male gets 80% of females in apes for example or lions.
2. Supply and demand...you put price controls on goods...less supply. You are commie, so probably never took economics....the lower the price less suppliers wanna supply goods...lower price artificially, and suppliers wont supply....so shortages...this happens in every planned economy, very accutely in venezuela where you cant get food now...but russia...waiting in lines for shortages of tiolet paper and food.

vs capitalist country...more demand more supply, major slightly higher price...BUT other suppliers willing to supply it at that price...so drives price down to equilibrium...

3. example....disaster...water and food shortages....government says, no price gouging...you cant charge higher, in US. Well...local supplies run out and none...and no incentive for others by profit margin to bring stuff in...so people starve and no water till government maybe steps in...see katrina, or puerto rico (where government stopped people getting food and water to get votes, yellow man bad, were helping you while san juan stand behind crates of good shipped in, saying they arent helping us) but capitalism...hell $50 5 gallons of water, ive drive there with 100 gallons...get there...oo 10 people here...paid $1, sell it for $5 cover my cost and some profit...people undercut each other...water and food get delivered...people make profit, people get food and water...EVERYONE BENEFITS... do you see from that limited example, how pure capitalism is best BEST way to distribute resources at BEST price if government stays out of it.

4. socialism, bureaucrats set prices, how much to produce, regulations to cut smaller businesses out of market, lobbied by bigger businesses (cost both of them money, but larger ones can pay lawyers to navigate it, since they made rules) so very inefficient, higher prices, less efficient allocation of resources...and crony capitalism

Can I tell you of any that succeeded? Diggers of England are a good example. Their leader, Gerrard Winstanley, declared "there shall be no buying or selling, no fairs nor markets, but the whole Earth shall be a common treasury for every man," and "there shall be none Lord over others, but every one shall be a Lord of himself". That's total communism, with communes, no classes, and no state. They co-operated without incentives of money to get work done and manage supplies, and they appear to have had a very good thing going; until nearby landowners and Lords sicced the courts, the army, and hired thugs on them to have them all driven out multiple times. Their downfall wasn't their system, it was the doing of selfish tyrants outside.

What's interesting to me about the suffering inflicted by communist countries vs capitalist countries, is that the "communists" lied to their people about how they were going to take care of everyone, they let the famines happen and didn't care about the people who were starving and dying, often times they committed the genocides directly; meanwhile the capitalists tell their people the truth about how their society is going to work, and people are left behind, enslaved, or murdered by the system of greed, then fascist assholes like you eat it up and think it's the best we've ever achieved. If you don't like being called a fascist, well it's just tit-for-tat in response to you calling me a commie.

Actually, maybe it's not that inaccurate to call you a fascist. You go to great, stupid lengths to try to convince people that it'd be a bad idea to ban pro-Nazi artwork and speech from the site. What value do such things contribute to Fur Affinity? None at all, in fact it's purely negative and makes the site just a little bit worse, because it's all either made by trolls who love nothing more than angering people, or legitimate neo-Nazis who wanna proliferate their ideology. You try to equate the glorification of Hitler to the support of a political system which calls for the collective ownership of the means of production. What'd be more fair is to equate Hitler and his supporters to Stalin or Mao and their supporters, but of course you can't be fair, because you have blind capitalistic hatred for communism as you run to the defense of Nazis.

Lot of stuff in there to comment on. Let's do freedom of speech first, your last paragraph. So yes I think its a bad thing to ban any art that is not prohibited by law (and really no art should be prohibited by law). The ban is not on PRO nazi art, but ANY art showing nazi symbols (which I must remind you was national SOCIALISTS). That includes anti-Nazi art that uses those symbols. Then you ask what value does it have? History? I posted video of Charlie Chaplin with Nazi like symbols protesting Nazi things which could be banned? So that's the value, protesting Nazis, history, not burying heads in sand that it never happened...etc. Negative is perspective? Free speech is best. Allow those "negative" people to speak and show what idiots they are. The best answer to bad speech is MORE SPEECH, not censorship.

And yes. I equate national socialism to socialism. You do know Hitler was socialist and had legal control of all industries. Yes people still "owned" them, but government told them what to do...so they did not truly own their own property. I am not defending them, I think ALL SOCIALISTS ARE BAD. The reason why is they MUST violate the 3 freedoms of man. LIFE FREEDOM, PROPERTY. They must seize property by force. This always ends badly. The russian socialists took property from peasant farmers to make collective farms, because they viewed it as theft from people. So they killed off the people who knew how to work the farms and gave it to people who didnt, with no incentive to actually work the fields.

I really love a scene from the movie Office Space...you will only work enough to not get fired (or killed in socialist countries.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iiOEQOtBlQ

The problem is you don't understand human nature and economics. The basic problem of socialism is waste. In capitalism this is handled by price. Maybe you heard somewhere that price is determined by supply and demand in capitalism? That makes the most efficient use of resources....whoever demands the resources most will get the most benefit out of them.

Example. Natural disaster. Clean water is low supply. Government would say, NO YOU CANT RAISE PRICES in response to low supply and punish people who raise prices. Price gouging they call it...BUT...if you let market work...$50 for gallon of water...youd have people driving with thousands of bottles of water to get that profit....then they get there...oh that guys selling it for $25...then $20...then $10...well it cost us $1 and gas and time, so profit needs to be $5 so equilibrium at $6 per gallon....and a lot of water gets delivered where its needed at best price...or you can wait till government comes by days later to deliver water for free. That is difference between socialist and capitalism.

Its not a blind hatred of communism, its a historic, economic and scientific hatred of socialism in general, both nazi socialists and communistic socialists.

So had to look up one example that failed...the diggers confiscated public property and started growing crops on it...it would be like saying this park is now ours to grow crops on. So yeah law enforcement eventually kicked them off....more relevant example, from same movement....the Puritans in Mass. They wanted to communistic thing also in 1600s. Didn't last a year...because no one worked and those who did, got their products taken for good of community...they ended that quickly and divided up things into lots, you eat what you produce, work beetches.