smelly internet ppl and parasocial relationships
5 years ago
so if you've followed me here for a while, you probably are aware of the ways i've been loud, facetious, and perhaps even volatile in the past, usually when criticizing the habits of online artists and fandoms (with focus on the furpeople becus look where the fuck we at lmao). that's all well and good, but i feel like by having done that for several years, i've invited a sort of familiarity from strangers here that isn't appropriate given how little they, like, know about me lol
i suppose it can't be helped! when you're caustic and loud, you will attract people who want to match how caustic and loud you are. the endearing thing is that this has, i think, been done by some people in respect, as a way to buddy up and interact with me on level ground and with the kind of humor they feel i'd appreciate. "noice," was my initial reaction to this, by the by. i probably also did a fortnite dance and then whacked off to my pageview count after getting any of those kinds of comments. but like....... homie idk you
lemme be clear: i don't feel any ill will towards basically anybody i interact with on the reg (if i did, why would i interact with them) and i understand most people mean no malice when they go about this sorta thing. but people need to understand that we don't know each other. i'm not your friend. idk what your humor is like, what's going through your head as you say things to me, what my art means to you if anything! and you can't say the same about me because i don't recall telling anyone anyone here any of these things in great detail over years of close friendship lol. so i'd appreciate it if we didn't do this song and dance
example given: i once discussed an arrangement i'd had with a now ex of mine and how happy we both were about it. everyone was inarguably supportive, legit everyone, but a handful - a larger handful of people then i'd thought there'd be, people who i am not nearly close enough to to feel comfortable allowing them to say this to me - went ahead and called me and my then-partner faggots. here i was having to hear random people i'm sure meant no harm calling me one of the nastiest words i've had used earnestly against me to express how i'm lesser, and not a single one of them seemed to understand why that's, ya know, kinda fuckt. imagine my disgusted surprise !
this isn't just about that one event, obvs. i've been over it for a long time. but it's an example of this overfamiliarity, this unearned and nonsensical sense of closeness i feel is motivating this way of interaction. i've had people who watch me, like my stuff, and agree with my positions when i get into ranting and raving go on to insult me, insult my art, and shrug off any shred of emotional vulnerability i half-jokingly share with some variation of discord chat maymays. and it baffles me because i don't even allow the people closest to me to say or do most of these things, and if i do, it's because i'm their friend. we know each other inside and out and have covert permission to pull that shit on each other
i don't keep bringing up the sentiment that I'm Not Your Friend to be cruel or act coldly. i don't mean it as a kick in the dick to anyone. it's just true! very few people here know me or have gotten to see what i'm really like irl. people have specifically wanted to be friends with me because they related to "how much of a cunt" i am and how i'm "a hardass", all without knowing so much as how i like my fuckin morning coffee made! it's madness, oh it's wild, frothing, buttfuckingly heinous madness to talk to a total stranger this way just because you like his bitching and his dog scribbles!!
but enough about me, i hate talking about that bitch. the greater point i'm trying to make here (and there is one! because ofc there is! jesus!!!) is that this is not an unseen phenomenon in online art spaces. this is something i see a lot of artists, especially those who are genuinely PoPuLaR, deal with. they are approached and spoken to as if strangers have known them since kindergarten. they get called bitches and assholes and cunts and worse in a joking tone from people who, even if its only for the moment, lack the social grace to realize YOU DONT SAY THAT SHIT TO TOTAL STRANGERS. and you don't know dick-and-a-half about someone as a human being based on the meager, jokey 2 message back-and-forths you have with them in the comments of their online art galleries
so just. remember that. by all means try and make friends with people. extend a hand out to me if you want, i'm not nearly as much of a miserable bastard as i present myself to be. but understand that hey dude, you can't talk to everyone in the exact same way and expect them to be hunky dorey about it. drop your fave memes in my comments anytime but maybe wait til you know my middle name before trying to call me a fag how bow that lol
(buh thu wuh, this isn't aimed at anyone in particular or brought on by anything recent. it's just been rolling around in my empty little head for a few months. anyway be excellent to each other or i'll shit your bed while you're not looking. peace)
i suppose it can't be helped! when you're caustic and loud, you will attract people who want to match how caustic and loud you are. the endearing thing is that this has, i think, been done by some people in respect, as a way to buddy up and interact with me on level ground and with the kind of humor they feel i'd appreciate. "noice," was my initial reaction to this, by the by. i probably also did a fortnite dance and then whacked off to my pageview count after getting any of those kinds of comments. but like....... homie idk you
lemme be clear: i don't feel any ill will towards basically anybody i interact with on the reg (if i did, why would i interact with them) and i understand most people mean no malice when they go about this sorta thing. but people need to understand that we don't know each other. i'm not your friend. idk what your humor is like, what's going through your head as you say things to me, what my art means to you if anything! and you can't say the same about me because i don't recall telling anyone anyone here any of these things in great detail over years of close friendship lol. so i'd appreciate it if we didn't do this song and dance
example given: i once discussed an arrangement i'd had with a now ex of mine and how happy we both were about it. everyone was inarguably supportive, legit everyone, but a handful - a larger handful of people then i'd thought there'd be, people who i am not nearly close enough to to feel comfortable allowing them to say this to me - went ahead and called me and my then-partner faggots. here i was having to hear random people i'm sure meant no harm calling me one of the nastiest words i've had used earnestly against me to express how i'm lesser, and not a single one of them seemed to understand why that's, ya know, kinda fuckt. imagine my disgusted surprise !
this isn't just about that one event, obvs. i've been over it for a long time. but it's an example of this overfamiliarity, this unearned and nonsensical sense of closeness i feel is motivating this way of interaction. i've had people who watch me, like my stuff, and agree with my positions when i get into ranting and raving go on to insult me, insult my art, and shrug off any shred of emotional vulnerability i half-jokingly share with some variation of discord chat maymays. and it baffles me because i don't even allow the people closest to me to say or do most of these things, and if i do, it's because i'm their friend. we know each other inside and out and have covert permission to pull that shit on each other
i don't keep bringing up the sentiment that I'm Not Your Friend to be cruel or act coldly. i don't mean it as a kick in the dick to anyone. it's just true! very few people here know me or have gotten to see what i'm really like irl. people have specifically wanted to be friends with me because they related to "how much of a cunt" i am and how i'm "a hardass", all without knowing so much as how i like my fuckin morning coffee made! it's madness, oh it's wild, frothing, buttfuckingly heinous madness to talk to a total stranger this way just because you like his bitching and his dog scribbles!!
but enough about me, i hate talking about that bitch. the greater point i'm trying to make here (and there is one! because ofc there is! jesus!!!) is that this is not an unseen phenomenon in online art spaces. this is something i see a lot of artists, especially those who are genuinely PoPuLaR, deal with. they are approached and spoken to as if strangers have known them since kindergarten. they get called bitches and assholes and cunts and worse in a joking tone from people who, even if its only for the moment, lack the social grace to realize YOU DONT SAY THAT SHIT TO TOTAL STRANGERS. and you don't know dick-and-a-half about someone as a human being based on the meager, jokey 2 message back-and-forths you have with them in the comments of their online art galleries
so just. remember that. by all means try and make friends with people. extend a hand out to me if you want, i'm not nearly as much of a miserable bastard as i present myself to be. but understand that hey dude, you can't talk to everyone in the exact same way and expect them to be hunky dorey about it. drop your fave memes in my comments anytime but maybe wait til you know my middle name before trying to call me a fag how bow that lol
(buh thu wuh, this isn't aimed at anyone in particular or brought on by anything recent. it's just been rolling around in my empty little head for a few months. anyway be excellent to each other or i'll shit your bed while you're not looking. peace)
I wear a different shade of humor, attitude, etc with family, clients, and other circles of friends. This does not make someone fake, as I think people tend to fear...it makes you mature, at least that's the way I see it. You should know there's a time and place and circle of people for everything. And I think many people no longer know that...it's no longer a basic common knowledge and it's stressful and upsetting.
The constant reassurance of " I am not your friend" grows tiring because people take it completely the wrong way. It's exhausting alone to have that sort of approach to social interactions with customers and online personalities...so I hope people take that in mind when considering how stressful it must be to even attempt to be an actual friend with someone different.
Good points all around.
furries are already kinda......... i don't even wanna be mean but imma just say it, furries are bad at navigating social situations. they often don't know what "mask" they should be "wearing" around different ppl, and often assume that becus you create certain things or occupy certain spaces that there's no need to approach you differently then the ppl they rp sex with and call nasty names for funsies n stuff. this lack of boundaries leads to a lotta nuisance behavior, certainly not blooming friendships
good points indeed!
But I consider our relationship to be professional; you're an artist I pay for illustrations. But I also happen to like the parts of your personality that I've seen on here. I always look forward to your social commentary in your journals.
I hope I never overstepped boundaries with you or tried to get too familiar. If I did, I'm sorry. x
I can (maybe) sorta see why it happens to you in particular - the very forthcoming people that is.
I'd assume it's your personality type, and though you don't sugar coat what you talk about, it seems maybe socially inviting.
I wanna say I kinda go through a similar deal since I upload a series called furry logic, which is me scribbling lazy memes describing the ironies and what not of the fandom. People seem super attached to it and then somewhat attach to me.
Most times it's fine and innocent but I have had a few that go too far in one extreme to another. Some people have some interesting assumptions about me, but I can't pretend like I find that sort interesting. The weird cause and affect my 20min scribble caused of maybe 3 panels max. Most of the time it's positive though so there is that.
Anyway, it does suck when you get that one or two comment that you can sorta tell they're probably giving you the elbow, but it's in super poor taste. Then if you're anything like me you lowkey kinda obsess about it and can't help to feel negative over it. There is some pieces I've done that have lots of nice comments, then one bad one. And because of that bad one, I relate it to the art piece and remember it every time I look at it.
I try to remember furries, in particular, are just not super great with being social, so they often come off as awkward or rude. And then, of course, some literally just are the definition of that.
Sorry, you have to go through that. I enjoy your content, both in art and your journals you drop now and then. ♥
i do think there's a laxness that ppl find in the way i write and what i write about, which has its ups and downs. like ive had ppl realize that i actually care about real life issues and they get cranky about it becus what happened to the fun, devil-may-care asshole they were laughing alongside before? turns out a bitch can have layers!
ur example more then mine signifies a weird parasocial relationship, i think. you create something that describes a sliver of what's going on in ur mind, ppl relate to it, they think they understand you, they feel like you "owe" them something becus they're invested in you and presume you will be invested in them too becus of it. ud be surprised just how much ppl get into things that are as simple as three panel comics
i'm sorry to hear this shit can be rough on u. i'm the sort of person whos mostly of one mind and easily distracted from one-off issued, but yeah there have been times i either got into a row on a piece's comments or someone said some dumb shit and i can't rly separate myself from it. i try to give ppl the benefit of the doubt that most of the time they mean well and just aren't thinking before they speak (hence why i can't bring myself to hate the ppl who called me a fag in jest), i just wish ppl would slow their roll and consider how what theyre doing may not be taken the way they like
i appreciate the participation in my scream fests. welcome to hell and pls enjoy ur stay
Like I'm sure just now you were thinking the same thing as me, that the skin is actually the largest organ !
Refreshing.