He looks cute and cool there man! The way he jiggles and waves is quite life like!

Fun!
I get to ask some 3D artists who can do VRchat models if they can do mine and they answer with impossible as my character's bone structure would not work in VRchat, then I look at yours and now I think they're just BSing me or trying to get easy money for easy jobs XD

Your character's body structure is the same as mine. It can definitely work for both desktop and VR upper body tracking. The only thing that likes to go wrong is that your hands can clip into the hips. I have had issues with this body shape and VR full body tracking, but I don't think the issues are insurmountable. Simply tweaking the bone placement should fix the issue since it appears to be a hip placement and leg length problem.

I'm not sure why other artists would say the shape is impossible. I might have more experience with rigging and animation given that I learned back when UT2004 was fresh and automatic rigging tools didn't exist for non-commercial users.

I do want to make VRC avatars as commissions in the future! Not sure when I'll start though. I'd like to get another couple avatars out first. Working on that now.

I'll trust you on that! I'm not 3D savvy but when they tell me it's impossible but I get to see others working fine, It's natural to think they're misleading XD
I would wait to see what you offer when you open up!

THE FUTURE IS NOW!!!

My goodness, that is definitely one of the BEST and most detailed models I've seen for VR! The amount of detail and painstaking work you put into it really shows! Everything from the giggle physics to the expressions are perfectly well done and look so fluid! ^^

I have imported a model and it rigged for humanoid animation without error. Totally lost what to do next! It's not my OC, but a test file created from a game model. My OC apparently hasn't the upper arm bones. Has some, but rigging isn't enough so I'm stuck not knowing 3D modeling software enough to make it appropriate for VRchat.

I think I'm better off shopping for some consultant that can do this sort of commission work.

I think that Unity and VRChat only require the 3 spine bones. Everything else is optional and configured in the model/fbx rig configurator in Unity. It should be possible to use your model without significant changes. Depends on who and how it was rigged though. Every artist is a little different.

I'd like to do 3d avatar commissions, but I don't think I have enough of a portfolio yet.

Thank you, that adds to my understanding of Unity.

I will try to Google this answer, but in case I don't find it easily, my next question regards making sibling connections.

"Right foot transform 'RightFoot' is not a child of right lower leg transform 'RightLeg02'" - these bones exist, but for whatever reason, they do not have this parent/sibling relationship. Is there a way to connect these in Unity? I hope I don't have to return to Blender to fix these rigs, but if I do, I could use a hint on how this is done. I was hoping the CATS addon for Blender would've achieved this with its "fix model" function.

Once I do this, all the rigging errors will vanish and I can apply the rig settings. There are 4 things to fix (both hands and both feet, and there is rigging for the optional fingers and toes making 8 if I do the optional rigs). If you know how this may be done, that'll be marvelous to learn!

Bonus topic for me to learn: The blender model has control rigs for individual "growth" sections, like pectorals, biceps, etc. I see there's a muscle tab for the model rigging as well, but it ignores my clicking on it. I assume I need to fix the bone rigging before it lets me go there. Is the process like the bone rigging, just using selectors to indicate the scaling controls?

I'm Unktehila in VRchat, and could use some time getting my trust level elevated.

First, make sure you're on a mainline, stable Blender. The beta branches often have broken fbx importers and exporters.

Second, check this extremely short and concise video: https://youtu.be/o5f18T7Rjmc . I love how to the point that YouTuber is! The bones in your model might not have the proper relationships set up, so parenting should be all you need. I doubt you need to change any weight painting. You can also keep all offers when parenting just in case things aren't exactly attached.

Finally, growth can be done via skeletal animation (unlikely) or shape keys (very likely and how I did mine). Shape keys must be toggled on by setting the influence slider to 1.0 in object mode or selecting one in edit mode. https://youtu.be/CaHomz6gPWY might help. You can activate various levels of any shape keys or multiple shape keys simultaneously. I think you can only edit them one at a time. I took my weight gain shape keys and us d them to create custom gestures in Unity/VRC. I might have referenced https://youtu.be/vrY3FgpzLRY when doing the custom gestures. You do need to download gestures from the video description -- you cannot edit the gestures without having the files downloaded and overriden (built-in gestures are read only, but your copies can be modified).

Hope that helps!

It sounds very helpful, I should have time to look at them and take notes, as I did with how I learned to take my OC out of Blender (a commissioned work, animation by  DigitalFurBelow) and prep it for FBX import that Unity can take in. Of course I had to delete the scene data and NSFW parts. YouTube is where I learned of CATS and the other addon that is used in the prep.

Afaik, there are scaling controls separate from the bones. I may be wrong and will discover it when I get to that stage. I'd be content having him clear the red marks off his rigging setup for the time being!

The setup does say "Model is not in T pose" which I guess needs to be corrected to finalize the rigging? He's in a natural, relaxed, arms at the side pose as imported.

Look for an option called "force T pose" in the bottom left of the skeleton config window. It's in a tiny dropdown submenu that's easy to miss. I'm rigged in an A pose so I also had a lot of red errors before finding that option.

Thanks. Since updating Blender to current release, things have gone from bad to worse. CATS doesn't even give me a "Fix Model" option and a straight export of the FBX into Unity makes a hot mess out of the model, truly an unrecognizable piece of junk.

CATS options for doing skeletal hierarchy is also not finding things it could in the old blender. So it complains about not finding hips, spine, shoulders, arms and legs. Basically it's become useless. The old blender at least the model was recognizable after CATS fixed it. The new one, CATS is useless, plain export is useless... I'm feeling like I've gone backward into more confusion and frustration than actually making any real progress on this project.

Therefore, given the expense to pay a professional to do this work, and judging from how the canned avatars (even for money) are really not worth it, I'm thinking I'll just erase Unity and all of VRchat, as I can be bored and ignored in a regular chat room without needing this extra rigmarole.

At least I gave it my best shot, but as with high end technology past my 35 years of experience just doing embedded systems, I'm clearly out of my league with 3D graphics.

I found the CATS' fix model option to do more harm than good. I never used it in a published model. The 2 times I tried it I wound up immediately reverting the changes because bones and details got removed. Definitely don't rely on that feature. I've also completely ignored the skeletal config in CATS since I prefer to let Unity do that -- you just have to tell it where your bones fit into the humanoid skeleton in the rig editor. Getting the names perfect is not necessary.

Do not delete Unity! You will need it to upload your avatar as a private upload! If you delete Unity, then you'll have to share your account credentials with whomever uploads your avatar in order to lock it into private mode. Sharing credentials is not good...but I suppose it's ok if you trust the person and change password afterwards.

If you want, you can send me the model and I can take a stab at it. I'll let you know if I can get it working in VRC. Some 3d artist furries are...not trained or fully familiar with all of Blender's features. A lot of the models I've checked out recently don't have their armatures exported correctly. If I think I can get it working then we can do a PWYW arrangement on the work. Telegram Myriaderoc, Twitter Myriaderoc, or note me here for email info. I'll know as soon as I open the model.

How cool!

How did you go about all this? Follow any guides ?

I actually learned how to model and rig back when UT2004 was hot. I learned from 3DBuzz back in the day. Good resources to check now are Darrin Lile, Jayanim, and Royal Skies LLC on YouTube. A lot of people use automatic rigging and texturing tools now, but knowing the fundamentals makes it easier to deal with unique body shapes and fix problems.

VRChat-specific info came from studying example models, poking around in Unity, and some random YouTube videos.

Ah, I see! It's all coming back again.

I'll check those out, now that VR seems to be taking off a bit it's something to look into now.
Thank you for pointing out where to look.