Hell yeah, fuck shitty political opinions! Why would I want to keep them around when they’re found in either sheer ignorance or in bad faith?

Dunno how that’s homophobic, but ok. Hope you enjoy the last 3 months of Trump’s presidency cuz his ass is gonna be outta there very soon :3

I support Trump!









....Falling and breaking his leg and getting sent to the prison hospital where he rots for the life in a cell.

Lowkey I’d nut so hard if his Twitter immediately got banned after Biden takes office in January.

>I don't live in america, and I support neither of them.

Cool then this post didn't apply to you my dude.

>But this kind of behavior doesn't lead anywhere, the US are already divided enough as it is.

I wasn't trying to lead it anywhere. I'm just sick of a specific group of people who I think embody some of the worst qualities that mankind has to offer and I think my personal FA profile is a fair spot to lay claim to say I don't want these people associating with me.

>And i'm sorry, but hating on Trump isn't a political standpoint whatsover

I never implied it was.

>There's no ideology anymore, no exchanges, no ideas with behavior like this one.

The goal of this post isn't to express a free market of ideas. I've discussed plenty with Trump supporters online and in person for the last 4.5 years and have come to the conclusion that there isn't a single one who is worth the effort if they still support him at this juncture in time where it is near the end of his Presidency. They are either flatly to incapable of agreeing on what reality itself is or share such different values from myself to such an extreme that philosophically there's really no point since I don't even agree with their core values.

>And in a final note, are you really hating on someone since 2015 ?

Absolutely. Since June 16th, 2015 when he made his first comment on Mexicans crossing into the U.S. being rapists and murderers, it was very easy for me to conclude that only racists and idiots would follow him over even the other GOP candidates at the time and my opinion simply hasn't changed since then. He merely gained more and more support, therefore, more and more idiots to easily rule out as not worth my time after trying to discuss the facts of reality with them for the next 2-3 years.

I could unironically write a novel about my feelings towards Trump, his followers, and why both are so god-awful. But why would I want to do that when everyone has had the same opportunities to see their shenanigans for themselves?

In other words, if someone has been told time and time again that sticking their hand in an alligator enclosure will result badly, but they still choose to stick their hand in anyways, why should I have to be the one held responsible for their stupid action? And half of the people sticking their hand in are just doing it to purposefully annoy the people telling them not to.

Basically. And again, it’s not like I couldn’t go over a variety of reasons why supporting him is bad. I could address COVID-19 and his mishandling of the entire situation, I could bring up his financial interests and the $400+ million of leverage others have over him, I could bring up his extremely divisive rhetoric, his shitty way of running the economy through deficit spending and tariffs, I could bring up his explicit desires to ban Muslims or target LGBTQ+ people, I could bring up how he wants to violate our 1st amendment in multiple ways, I could bring up his quid pro quo deal with Ukraine that he got IMPEACHED over, I could bring up how he has largely fucked over our allies and enemies in some extremely stupid ways, I could bring up his breaking of the Iran Deal and all the results of that, etc.

But Biden is old so I guess both sides are just the same as per the other commenter below.

I don’t believe that, BUT, even if I did grant that, I’d still take Harris over Trump x100 or over Pence.

Another foreigner here watching from afar. To be quite frank, ever since this started, the 2020 election cycle has been nothing short of a total farce watching two senile old fucks duke it out in the most overrated game show imaginable - it doesn't even deserve to be called an election at this point.

Normally, I'd feel bad that this is what one of the most powerful nations on this planet has become, but this is entirely on you guys for letting it happen in the first place.

I mean you're not wrong in that it definitely is our fault for letting it get to this point to a degree. But there are people fighting to try and make it better, and if I may be perfectly honest, I think the both sides argument that Trump and Biden are both just equally old senile men bickering is disingenuous to any of the actual policies they support and what they can and will do in the Presidential office.

Yes and no. Regardless of policy however, I don't believe that either of them, let alone the majority of their respective political peers, are at all fit for office in the first place. There's also no guarantee that anything promised by either candidate as a policy issue will ever come to fruition as advertised if at all, especially in the case of a potential incoming president who's going to be inheriting quite the mess left over from their predecessor if they succeed - much of their time is likely going to be spent putting out the fires instead of implementing anything new within that first term.

The way you talk about this in such extremely wide generalities makes me inclined to think you don’t actually know anything specific about either of them or their histories.

Yeah no shit I don’t expect either to accomplish all of the things they promise, but even just WHAT they are aiming to accomplish is such a wide degree of difference that you can’t just say they’re both the same with a straight face. Besides, Trump had his opportunity to pass legislation in his first two years when he controlled Congress. Even with that they couldn’t get shit done besides repealing the ACA mandate. Biden will only not get that much done if the GOP continues to control the Senate and chooses to block every single piece of legislation that enters it with McConnell.

If you post another response speaking in such wide generalities with no elaboration, more detailed description, or evidence to back it up, I WILL block you because this is starting to get annoying to hear someone who doesn’t even live here speak so confidently on how they think our govt is run with nothing to back it up.

You're right. Not my monkeys, not my circus. It's not as if people living abroad can't learn more about American politics than many American citizens care to.

It's laughable to suggest that anyone who's been inundated with American media for most of their life doesn't know who Trump is. The guy has consistently been a glorified stereotypical used car salesman long before 2016, and that evidently hasn't changed during his time in office. Insofar as I can tell however, for all the talk of him being a problem, he's a symptom of far more that's wrong with the US as a whole than the convenient buzzwords used to describe him and his supporters:

The Democratic Party is as much to blame for Trump as the Republicans. It is a full partner in the perpetuation of our political system of legalized bribery, along with the deindustrialization of the country, austerity programs, social inequality, mass incarceration and the assault on basic civil liberties. It deregulates Wall Street. It prosecutes the endless and futile wars that are draining the federal budget. We must mount independent political movements and form our own parties to sweep the Democratic and Republican elites aside or be complicit in cementing into place a corporate tyranny. Sanders won’t help us. He has made that clear. We must do it without him.
~Chris Hedges

By contrast, Biden doesn't really stand out as anyone noteworthy, even for someone who's campaigning against a Twitter-happy clown. Sure, his political career is extensive and colourful to put it mildly, but the former vice-president as he is now is what I would expect out of the Democratic Party establishment, if heavily reliant on a good support team to be effective (no ruler rules alone, of course, which is something I believe we can both agree is not Trump's strong suit).

The thing I hate about politics is that nobody can seem to work together to find a common ground. It seems to always devolve to extremism of some kind... and as a result, nothing productive ever gets done. Just a whole lot of hatred towards others who don't have the same viewpoint as their own.

I mean, Dems have passed a ton of legislation and even come to compromises repeatedly in the House, just for the GOP-controlled Senate to shut it down time and time again. To say that both sides are guilty in equal parts is simply just not based in reality.

Ive hated Trump long before he ran for office, I knew he was an absolute jackass and a conman for over 20 years.

I will never understand how people can support and defend his actions.

Cult 45 are a sad scary bunch who need serious help.

A mixture of ignorance on the issues in conjunction with populist rhetoric is how people fall for him. The way he talks is very clever tbh because even though he’s a terrible businessman in practice, he still exudes the feeling like he’s a good one to a ton of people by constantly comparing the situations he’s been a part of with something worse. Ex: him saying that people were saying 2 million would be dead in the U.S. by Covid by what others were saying and that he did a great job since ‘only’ 220k have died. Meanwhile the reality of that claim was that 2 million would die if we literally did absolutely nothing.