Thought of you when this happened.

I mean how could you defend what happened. But if you say something about others doing worse you are banned.

>^..^<

Defend? Why the fuck do people keep thinking I'm defending what happened. Good lord you people make assumptions fast.

Nope nope. You misunderstood what I meant.

And I did word it wrong.

Meant to say how could anyone defend what happened. Like there was going to be support for it and FA needed to threaten everyone not to do it.

I was really pissed when I wrote it. I had just seen FA post then yours right after it.

Also the one below me is all I get shoved in my face when I say something about free speech also.

Sorry. I have most always supported your views in free speech and how sites act to have only one point of view.

Yea, I've got a rather bad headache, should have been asleep hours ago. And I read the other comments below before I read yours too. Kinda angry I couldn't reply to that jackass below because he blocked me for no good reason other than he's another one of them cancel culture idiots.

Freedom of speech does not apply to private properties or businesses. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences. With freedoms comes responsibility, and those without responsibility will abuse those freedoms, thus consequences must be used.

This is an attempt to prevent people from inciting violence, to making light of a very dark moment in history, and making it an agenda to use it as an example of 'positivity' when it has nothing of the such.

No one is keeping you here. You can leave at anytime, just like when a bar throws you out for saying the bartender sucks. Go to another bar.

But hey, if I'm not allowed to say this to you, I guess you don't believe in this 'freedom of speech' either... So eh. :)

Wait, so you actually ARE against free speech? Because it seems like you're saying that you don't want people to call out terrible shit. I mean, if you incite violence, and you silence my attempt to call out your demand for violence, you're suppressing free speech.

I'm not speaking out against them speaking out against the violence. FA said they will take action, aka, ban, anyone who they feel is saying something they don't like. Thats, what I'm speaking out against. I'm ok with FA saying "Hey, this was very wrong, we wanted to show our opinion." but no, thats not what FA is doing, FA is threatening to ban people who don't align with their views. If you aren't a BLM supporter, ban. If you are a trump supporter, ban. If you talk about things that happened to your grandparents in Germany, ban. If you talk about your great grandparents being in the civil war on the "wrong side", ban.

We have a right to speak, to voice our opinions. It is however when we incite violence, tell people to attack or to kill, that we should be punished. But just saying "Oh that sucks, that person shouldn't have been killed" or "I feel sorry that those people were killed", just because "those people" happened to be violent protesters on "the wrong side", shouldn't be grounds for banishment. What if I just don't like seeing people get killed regardless of what wrongs they did? I mean. I'm not. I am quite fond of the death penalty. But what if? What if I say something that for some reason people take the wrong way and report me when its not what I meant? Should I be banned just because it got taken the wrong way? No.

I don't want cancel culture to take over everything. But its clear to me, thats what FA is now. Cancel culture.

What's wrong with Banning Nazism? And again, Private Company, if you think a cake shop is allowed to refuse wedding services to a gay couple, you got no leg to stand on without being a hypocrite. Also, maybe try not STARTING Cancel Culture if you don't want your hatred for things that seem slightly gay to balloon into getting you booted off the stage for shouting "Heil Hitler". Frikken Karens.

What? Are you high or something? Geeze.

First of all. I referenced the "Nazi" thing, as something that FA would ban people over if they talk about family history like if a family member had been involved and captured by nazis.

Where did this "cake shop refuse wedding services to gays" come from? It sounds like you somehow think I'm anti-gay. And now a nazi too. Wow. You are all kinds of stoned, or stupid. I don't know which.

Nor am I promoting cancel culture. I'm trying to stop it. Cancel culture is the act of deleting anything and banning anyone who is against your views. I'm trying to stop them from doing that, thats not cancel culture. "canceling cancel culture" is not cancel culture.

Bro, do you believe a private company is allowed to refuse service to unruly individuals that destroy the company's property without paying? Yes or no?

But how do gays come into the picture of destroying company property? Explain that to me.

I believe it would be wrong to ban anyone from a place or using their services, based on their national origin, color, sexual orientation, religion, gender, whatever.

It would be ok, to refuse services to someone who is known to be destructive however. So long as you aren't using this as an excuse to do the above thing.

Bro, if a Private company is allowed to refuse service, then stop crying when you're the one whos terrible behavior has lost the use of a service.

Frikken Karen. You outright defeated your argument in your closing statement.

..... What? What terrible behavior? I simply protested the silencing of people who have a different opinion than the site administr..... You know what, nevermind. You're clearly just a troll here.

I'm just saying, armed Insurrection is a crime.

When did I say its not?....

You seem to think plotting it without consequence is free speech when in reality the consequences are what make it free. That's the thing here.

Noooooo. I seem to think banning people over "any sympathy at all", is wrong. What if you knew one of the trump supporters that was killed? What if you expressed sorrow that "your friend died in the capitol hill attack"? Does that mean you're inciting violence? No. But you'll still be banned for it.

Again, you're just an extreme leftist, who's twisting words to make me seem evil, when its you who is just stupid. I can't help it that you don't have a brain. Or were educated only by extreme leftists to think the worst in anything thats slightly center aligned or think people are evil if they are on the right.

I'm sorry that you assume that someone who doesn't like cancel culture is "inciting violence". I can't help you, because you have to have intelligence in order to comprehend that not everyone likes others silencing the masses with threats of bans if you so much as hint that you're not in agreement with the current person of power, in this case FA.

I've explained it below in other comments too, that I am against what happened at capitol hill. However I also expressed my hate in the fact that FA silences you, bans you, if you post anything at all relating to specific historical events, or talk about how "every life matters" because its racist unless you say "black lives matter". Because apparently only "black lives matter" means "every life matters", and its racist to say otherwise and worth a ban?....

Again, you're the one here confused about what my journal is for. You came here to attack me thinking I'm a trump supporter all because I disagree with cancel culture rules. I'm sorry, but you need to go back to school, learn some new things, become educated, and then come back and try your post again.

P.S. Yes, I'm very hostile in my response. I hate far left morons who think everything thats not in agreement with them is evil. Like you. Making snap judgements that a journal that disagrees with a new rule is obviously posted by someone who's "a trump supporter" or "supports violence".

Twitter is cancel culture too

Well, technically free speech can be taken away should our country be attacked like this, but it's only temporarily, at least.
And to clarify, I am NOT a Trump supporter by any means.
What he just did should have him sent straight to hell once he finally croaks, imho.

I actually don't think Trump meant things to go like this. I mean, its possible. But I mostly just think he is a moron who said stupid shit and his supporters mostly being morons took it the wrong way and tried to do shit for him that was incredibly stupid. His lawyer also said some words that he shouldn't have, "trial by combat", which by now you know that rednecks aren't too bright and will hear the word combat and shut everything else out as they grab their pitch forks and guns. I'm sure he didn't mean literal trial by combat but thats what happened in the end. The people who attacked, should be in jail. The president, his lawyer, and everyone who spoke out in a way that helped incite violence, should be punished. Even if they didn't mean it, they should have had proofreaders going through what they planned to say when they addressed people to change out potentially dangerous phrases.

Kamaitachi
Because you're a child, I have to reply to you here.

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I know that freedom of speech does not apply to businesses and such. However, it should. I am only pointing out the bad practices that FA is turning into. Read my other comment below here to see some more on this point.

Tell me, what if you saw people posting about BLM attacks on buildings? Maybe telling people to burn some place down because its got white supremacists there? Would you have them banned? Or would it be alright because its BLM? Sometimes, this is what happens. If you're rooting for the wrong side, you get punished, but if you do something terrible for the "right side", you're given a lighter sentence or not punished at all.

What is it with half of you people attacking me over this journal anyway. Two so far have claimed I'm trying to take away free speech. If I didn't want people replying, I would have locked the journal like other people do all over the site who post political journals and lock them. Which I will never do, because I will never prevent someone from disagreeing with me and I do my best to get back to them and respond when I can.

>Calling me a child.
That reaction is exactly why I blocked you and you will remain blocked. Lack of civility.

Furthermore, I don't support any 'side' other than facts. I gave you facts. I told you why it is. And you, along with everyone else who uses "Freedom of Speech" as a shield to insult others, seem to take facts as an attack to you.

As I said, you can go some where else, that wasn't a threat, that was advice. There are other sites you can use if you don't agree with this one's policies.

Oh and I love how you went straight to the excuse that people are using for being allowed to incite violence, "But if BLM attacks are allowed-" Don't. Not because it has anything to do with BLM, it's the speaking mannerism. It's a psychological reflex to try to downplay what happened, and try to compare it to something else that has different intricacies. This is another form of misinformation being spread by people. Before you go "So you support rioting", I don't support anything but facts. I put facts forward, in a neutral perspective. Just because it doesn't align with your mentality, your 'side', or what you expect does not act as an excuse to get hostile towards others.

People who are delusional and refuse to acknowledge facts, instead trying to put emotion into something that does not require it are not people I wish to speak with.

I merely told you, and I am repeating myself, what it is now. I am not going to tell you what is right morally, that is for you to figure out.

Now then. This 'Child', is done explaining himself and will leave you to yelling at others who disagree with you and cheering at people who agree with you.

"It would be wise to be wary of your words, for they hold more power than you believe."

Cute, the kid unblocks me, replies, then blocks me again. Thats against the rules interestingly enough. I could easily report that. And claims that I'm ignoring facts when I stated that I know what the facts are. Thats even funnier. I love how many times he says the word facts though, to make his point across that he is very factual, in his speaking of facts, factually speaking~

That should be against the rules to do that lol

I mean, it is, but i didn't bother reporting him because I don't give a fuck. I just blocked him so he couldn't keep doing it.

FA would probably just tell you to block him and do nothing.

Dragoneer doesnt even do anything on the site lets be fair, the admins are missing brain cells anyhow, its a free site yadda yadda but...I mean run by who?

Update, the sites puttering along again and barely loading, I dont think they even maintain bugger all here

The site would perform better, if they'd bring back the older system that submissions used to have where /view/ meant you'd load a smaller preview of the total image and /full/ meant you'd load the source image in its highest quality. Instead they switched submissions over to full only, and now every user on FA has to load these nice big 5MB images all the time hogging up the bandwidth for the domain as well as resource time on the server, when 90% of them would probably be fine with just loading the preview version for 95% of the images while only loading full view for some to save.

im pretty sure its run by a low level ai at this point with how bad the site runs, then again what can you expect from a site that is basically all just spagetti code held together with ductape, super glue and rust? the best answer would be to archive everything, rebuild site from ground up then rearchive everything bit by bit to the new site as to not overload the server but ofc that would cost money and we can't spend our money can we?

Nah, the best thing we can do is move to Furry Network or Weasyl both of which have great coding. FN has a tag blocking system so you don't open your submission inbox to find scat diaper watersports porn sitting there because someone you watch desided to draw that out of the blue when you like their other stuff and you don't want to unwatch them because they draw that once in a while and yet its so hideous and bad it makes you want to immediately unwatch and vomit.

tbh i rarely use fa anyways these days. only use it for stuff that hasnt been uploaded to E6 yet x3

People need to learn there’s a difference between hate speech and opinions.

“All lives matter” has good intentions but also is considered hate speech to the far left. And that’s a problem. If you don’t agree then it’s “hate speech”

Also the harassment policy. The term is thrown around so loosely you can say someone is harassing you for saying “hi”

I like how people made the assumption you’re a trunk supporter for wanting free speech. Uuggghh

Sorry, but the title itself of this journal is crap and nonsense. FA doesn't ban free speech, it bans persons who spit on free speech. Trump did it for four years and finally, too late, but finally, platforms act. This step was necessary and should apply to all sites into the internet. Trump and his hardcore supporters have to leave internet to ensure freedom of speech.

It’s only “spitting” on free speech if it’s not YOUR beliefs and values.

That’s the point he’s making here

Then all people of America should state that Trump's claims of election fraud are wrong. They are clearly wrong because there are no proves for it and to claim otherwise is not an option or free speech but an unbelievable conspiracy.

What sorta of backwards bullshit is this? When has Trump tried to cancel free speech? While he may have been a dumbass most of the time, he never tried to silence people. Only the Left have. Cancel culture is by definition anti-free speech. Banning anyone from the internet who has a different opinion than you, is, anti-free speech.

FA isn't threatening to ban anyone who "incites violence", they are threatening to ban anyone who shows any remote concern for the lives of those lost in the attack. You can't show any sympathy for the Trump supporters who died or you're banned. But you can show sympathy for the police officer who was killed. And while I myself have no sympathy for those people, there are people out there who would feel bad that any life was lost.

FA looks like its gearing up to start banning anyone who is under a center or rightwing belief system. The site is combining politics so much that its showing its colors as a far left organization that is willing to ban you if you don't agree with it and I'm taking it upon myself to say no to this bullshit.

https://xkcd.com/1357/

Again. I know that free speech is technically a government only thing.

However, the people, who pride themselves on allowing everyone to have an opinion, tend to consider it to be a global thing. Site owners tend to allow people to speak their minds if they believe in free speech.

Its actually to the point where, you start becoming evil if you hide free speech on your platform. Why do you think Twitter only bans people if they incite violence? Twitter is far left, but they allow far right people to post their opinions. You're allowed to disagree with facebook policies on facebook. What about FA? Where is FA going? It bans you if you say something like "all lives matter", or similar things. You can't talk about German history. You can't talk about the American Civil War if your great grandparents fought on "the wrong side". Historical artwork is banned.