Stop me if this sounds familiar:

Why not leave the government to handle its duties to its citizens, and the church to handle its duties to its congregation?

Render unto Caesar...

What and let all these sinners go around doing things I don't think my religion approves of?! It's like I, myself, am personally condoning and even joining in just by seeing it! This isn't even getting into THE CHILDREN who will be oh so confused seeing two people of the same sex acting like the relationship is perfectly normal! [/sarcasm]

"My religion does not approve of eating pork, so I must INSIST the government ban ALL pork products in stores and restaurants! What if one of my kids sees bacon in the meat aisle, and starts asking what it's for? At that young age, I should NOT have to have my child questioning our beliefs!"

ETA: Of course I personally think the Catholic Church is wrong on LGBT, that it doesn't matter in the eyes of God, and that people are taking descriptive aspects of society and making them prescriptive. I feel like, sometimes, I'm in the minority.

It's super annoying when folks pull the "think of the children" thing because they are almost never actually thinking of the children, but their own personal comfort. If they really cared about kids, more than as beings over whom they can exert control, they'd be willing to accept their gender and sexuality rather than making or supporting policies that end up hurting the kid. Certainly they'd not toss them out on the street or disinherit them because they aren't cisgender/heterosexual.

I know the feeling. Until Pope Francis's recent support of civil unions, the Church wanted homosexuals that led celibate lives, as if we somehow don't need someone to love and care for. I've lost track of the times I've been told that homosexual relations can't last as long as hetero sexual ones or that any of the number that do are just exceptions to the rule.

i could be incorrect here (and please do rectify me if i am wrong) ..... it is my understanding that a large number of self-professed christians cherry•pick from their bibles? (´not even including the instances where it seemingly makes sense to disregard certain of the bible's other prescriptions — such as, not enslaving others; or stoning for breaking sabbath)

just for this cherry•picking alone, should said christians be discredited as charlatans — and then, by more, for the fact they rather direct so much ire towards we who do not (cannot) subscribe to sexual "norms," yet almost not a peep from them towards bona fide murderers-of-innocents; predators-of-innocents; gluttons who take so much, to the direct detriment of others; etc.



and i cannot tell you how we got to this point, rimme — how we've managed to devolve this substantially