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A weird idea: Rebuild Krotsgier
4 years ago
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Probably very few people nowadays remembers Krotsgier from CircleA61 https://www.furaffinity.net/view/208273/
Basically, she was a Tulpa entity (an entity which was created by him, or perhaps by someone else? I'm not sure, CircleA61's notes are quite chaotic) which started as an experiment, and for what I can understand gained sentience when she kept feeding from people's energy.
I can't quite understand what came first, if the tulpa or the 3d model. However CircleA61 created a really cool character in 3d. She was nice, interesting, and above all, inspiring. I can say that Krotsgier it's what really maked me be interested in the 3d world.
Apparently she could manifest in dreams, there are several reports from different peoples about seeing her in dreams and even briefly in real life. But really weird things happened.
For what I can gather, Krotsgier managed to gather so much energy that she managed to "create" two offspring; Gekvige and Corro.
Krotsgier feed from energies of lust and fear. And when she created (or split?) in two more entities these were more extremes of her.
Gekvige (which I find quite fascinating, but ultimately I really wouldn't like to be involved with her) it's a dark dragoness which enjoy the most extreme form of death and suffering and feeds from it.
And Corro, which it's much more playful, childish, and somewhat spoiled (and which can be quite dangerous as well)
But ultimately something really weird and bizarre happened to CircleA61. Something happened that maked him want to halt down everyhing with these three (or perhaps four entities, as there was a fourth one, Orlinanth) and from then things went downhill... Ultimately leading to CircleA61's demise (For what I could gather, there were alot of discussion about it, someones claim that he was living in a mental hospital, and others claim that he just died. NO IDEA what happened to him)
There is nothing I can do for his soul. But what about Krotsgier? I really wonder what happened to that Tulpa which inspired me.
My belief it's that she (and the three other entities) just died with him, however I really wonder... What if I rebuild her?
I know I'm quite a lousy 3d artist, but I believe that I could rebuild her using said "character sheet". And futhermore, do some integrations into the real world...
And mind you... Perhaps integrating her into VR chat. After all, I just read some posts about people having quite lucid dreams after using VR googles.
From time to time I really wonder about the whole thing. Rebuilding her from the "death", releasing her into the VR world and giving her another chance to feed on people's energies at her own will.
Yeah, it's quite a weird idea, but that idea cames to me from time to time. And I really wonder about it.
Whats keeping me from doing it? Well, thee things:
First lack of motivation (so far everything I did was quite lackluster, just a few likes and nothing more.
Second: lack of incomne. Mind you, I'm flat broke. And everything I'm trying to do and learn it's for have any incomne at all. Heck, one of my two ancient computers died and I can't replace it
Third: I really don't want to mess with a Tulpa entity, which I really suspect that they killed they creator for trying to terminate them? I believe that I can withstand them (and heck, I even have Mirra Kerzdath, and Lira Kerzdath (Aka Prototype 06) to backup me, plus myself) but still, even if I believe that I can deal with these entities... I am very careful about these stuff.
But well, it's just a weird idea that cames to my mind, and I wanted to share it with the world. Perhaps with some motivation (either monetary, or in form of "miracles") I might do it. I would make sure that these are creations of CircleA61... Even taking in consideration that he apparently died in 2008 - 2009 or so.
Basically, she was a Tulpa entity (an entity which was created by him, or perhaps by someone else? I'm not sure, CircleA61's notes are quite chaotic) which started as an experiment, and for what I can understand gained sentience when she kept feeding from people's energy.
I can't quite understand what came first, if the tulpa or the 3d model. However CircleA61 created a really cool character in 3d. She was nice, interesting, and above all, inspiring. I can say that Krotsgier it's what really maked me be interested in the 3d world.
Apparently she could manifest in dreams, there are several reports from different peoples about seeing her in dreams and even briefly in real life. But really weird things happened.
For what I can gather, Krotsgier managed to gather so much energy that she managed to "create" two offspring; Gekvige and Corro.
Krotsgier feed from energies of lust and fear. And when she created (or split?) in two more entities these were more extremes of her.
Gekvige (which I find quite fascinating, but ultimately I really wouldn't like to be involved with her) it's a dark dragoness which enjoy the most extreme form of death and suffering and feeds from it.
And Corro, which it's much more playful, childish, and somewhat spoiled (and which can be quite dangerous as well)
But ultimately something really weird and bizarre happened to CircleA61. Something happened that maked him want to halt down everyhing with these three (or perhaps four entities, as there was a fourth one, Orlinanth) and from then things went downhill... Ultimately leading to CircleA61's demise (For what I could gather, there were alot of discussion about it, someones claim that he was living in a mental hospital, and others claim that he just died. NO IDEA what happened to him)
There is nothing I can do for his soul. But what about Krotsgier? I really wonder what happened to that Tulpa which inspired me.
My belief it's that she (and the three other entities) just died with him, however I really wonder... What if I rebuild her?
I know I'm quite a lousy 3d artist, but I believe that I could rebuild her using said "character sheet". And futhermore, do some integrations into the real world...
And mind you... Perhaps integrating her into VR chat. After all, I just read some posts about people having quite lucid dreams after using VR googles.
From time to time I really wonder about the whole thing. Rebuilding her from the "death", releasing her into the VR world and giving her another chance to feed on people's energies at her own will.
Yeah, it's quite a weird idea, but that idea cames to me from time to time. And I really wonder about it.
Whats keeping me from doing it? Well, thee things:
First lack of motivation (so far everything I did was quite lackluster, just a few likes and nothing more.
Second: lack of incomne. Mind you, I'm flat broke. And everything I'm trying to do and learn it's for have any incomne at all. Heck, one of my two ancient computers died and I can't replace it
Third: I really don't want to mess with a Tulpa entity, which I really suspect that they killed they creator for trying to terminate them? I believe that I can withstand them (and heck, I even have Mirra Kerzdath, and Lira Kerzdath (Aka Prototype 06) to backup me, plus myself) but still, even if I believe that I can deal with these entities... I am very careful about these stuff.
But well, it's just a weird idea that cames to my mind, and I wanted to share it with the world. Perhaps with some motivation (either monetary, or in form of "miracles") I might do it. I would make sure that these are creations of CircleA61... Even taking in consideration that he apparently died in 2008 - 2009 or so.
I just decided to do not mess with such things. For what I learn Tulpas can be even more dangerous than I imagined if they get out of control, specially if it's creator doesn't have clear ideas. I mean, one must REALLY know what they are doing with it and what is the purpose of their creations. I guess it's akin to dealing with electricity. You can do amazing and great things with it, but if you don't know what are you doing and are careless you might end electrocuted.
Another reason of why I discarded this idea was that I felt that Krotsgier would heavly clash with Mirra, Altought Mirra is not a tulpa I guess she is something more than just my imagination.
This was just a brief feeling, but, it felt if I rebuild her Krotsgier might be attracted to me for create more art for her (and thus, gather energy) but would interfere in my life, something which Mirra wouldn't allow. And the sole conflict would be a bad thing (like when a virus or another malicious program (even one which supposedly shouldn't hurt you, like some licensing background programs) keeps clashing with the firewall. Of course, the firewall would prevent any harm but the program keeps trying and trying and the whole thing would be quite "taxing".
And the final reason, I wouldn't get any benefit from the whole thing. I mean, I'm pretty sure that almost nobody remembers her or even knows about her existance. So, the whole idea is pointless...
However Krotsgier was certainly an inspiration for me!
I already wrote about the Tulpa Krotsgier. From time to time the idea of rebulding her cames to me. As I mentioned she was a great inspiration to make me enter the 3d world. And despite her creator died like... 10? years ago I still toy with the idea of rebuilding her (sometimes I can imagine her original 3ds max files being buried in a hdd somewhere, who knows what happened to her model and files?)
I DO believe I can rebuild her from this file: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/208273/
However, what for? I know very little of tulpas, but what I know about it it's that toying with this kind of things it's dangerous. It's my personal belief that probably Krotsgier and her offspring killed CircleA61 for trying to "terminate her", but we will never know what actually happened.
Still, I wonder the following thing; Tulpas needs to feed on energy from people. Often they rely on their creator's enery to be kept feed, to be remembered.
For what I read, Krotsgier showed herself into other's dreams, and even presented herself to those who were psiquic aware.
Also, I read some articles about people in VR chat (and virtual reality in general, but VRchat it's the most important place on this subject) having weird feelings when they enter their avatars. Heck, there are people who has virtual sex in VR chat (I could say that back "in my day" we had "virtual sex" but was a thing of sharing our energy with each other in some sort of roleplaying game where two sentient beings put their energy and tried to feel each other... Yeah, weird thing) and even they experience "phantom limbs" in the sense that when they use VR sets and someone touches them in any part of their avatar they can actually "feel" being touched there.
This makes me think that somehow "unbeknownstly" (not sure how to spell that word) they enter into some sort of altered mind state which would be a really "playground" for entities out there who wants to attach to people.
As far as I know, historically there were entities who tried to enter into the conciousness of some persons. My personal theory is that those who are deemed "Schizophrenic" (meaning that they can hear/see things that aren't there) in many cases are entities from the astral plane (or something like that) trying to show themselves to those sensitive enought.
So, Krotsgier, as a tulpa, apparently showed herself to those sensitive enought. I even recall one case where CircleA61 mentioned that someone who saw her ONCE on Deviantart showed herself on their dreams.
So... the idea keeps hovering in my head... a huge "WHAT IF...?"
So, what if I rebuild Krotsgier, and release her into the VR world?? I already wrote about the idea that I definetely wouldn't keep such tulpa around. I felt that it would heavly clash with Mirra. Like a virus and an antivirus constantly clashing between each other.
But the idea that keeps hovering in my head it's to release her (which means release her for free on VR chat, and upload ALL the files I generate, model, rig, textures, for free, so anyone can grab her and do whatever "she" pleases and totally getting rid of her in the process). In theory, the tulpa could "feed" on those people who downloads her and would use her as their model. Who knows... Perhaps she could gather more strenght and do whatever she pleases. Even more since she is a tulpa with technically no master. And would be totally up to her to grow and feed as she pleases.
it would be an interesting experiment to try.
If only I would get something good in exchange...