Do you like safe vore or unsafe vore?
4 years ago
General
I saw this being discussed under a comic from a long time ago from someone else, and I found it interesting.
For me, "safe vore" is a little "strange" to me, as I don't understand the safety feeling of it. But that's just because my own interests are different. (I understand it better now!) :P And yet I don't like drawing the digestion part. xD I mainly like a happy pred.
I DO like willing prey, tho. But maybe unwilling a bit more. But to me, if something is going into something elses gut, they dead.
HOWEVER, that doesn't mean I'm against drawing it!But do know the majority of what I draw is fatal vore. (at least it's implied. If the client says it's not fatal, then it's not!) I no longer think this way! It can be either or unless stated one way or the other!
So if my (feral) characters eat something else, they ded. :P Maybe! lol
Main reason I made this journal is I saw people who only like safe vore get really upset if an artist does fatal vore. I just hope that those who don't like that will keep it to themselves and simply avoid or unwatch! No need to voice disappointment under art you don't like. :0
...that goes for ANYTHING you don't like. >.> unless saying you normally don't like something but a specific piece you do like and can appreciate.
I fully don't understand why people would make their distaste/disapproval known (under art they don't like). xD; What's the gain there?
I DO like willing prey, tho. But maybe unwilling a bit more. But to me, if something is going into something elses gut, they dead.
HOWEVER, that doesn't mean I'm against drawing it!
Main reason I made this journal is I saw people who only like safe vore get really upset if an artist does fatal vore. I just hope that those who don't like that will keep it to themselves and simply avoid or unwatch! No need to voice disappointment under art you don't like. :0
...that goes for ANYTHING you don't like. >.> unless saying you normally don't like something but a specific piece you do like and can appreciate.
I fully don't understand why people would make their distaste/disapproval known (under art they don't like). xD; What's the gain there?
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Yeah, I don't understand why people waste their time complaining about what they don't like online. No one benefits. >>' Especially in situations like this where it's all personal preference.
though if it's just mouth play, that's easily not-fatal and that I understand the fun of it, like oral sex. But once being swallowed it's hard for me to imagine it being "safe".
Personally, I think unsafe is great. Kinda brings some sense of an end to the scene, whereas safe would bug me as I'd feel like the prey is just... trapped forever? Or spit back up, I suppose. That's just not as appealing to me, not as much as the implied consequences and finality of an action. That being said, unwilling is also great! I have trouble wrapping my head around the idea of a prey just willingly wanting to subject themselves to that sort of end. To each their own, though!
But yeah if I get any people like that (I've only ever gotten someone against vore in general and it made me laugh) I'll simply hide their comment or report them if saying harm should come to me. :v
but yeah I have mostly the same thoughts!
and yes agreed!
Its a shame too because its tarnished the reputation for any people into Endo that aren't complete nuttjobs, because they are often made fun of just because of that vocal minority.
These people for the safe vore (wishing harm on others) at least don't make me look at all the safe-vore lovers the same way. If people keep to themselves and let others be, then they are amazing in my book!
We humans are a contentious lot.
People give more of a damn about the fictional character's outcome than the REAL people behind the screen. :\
I like both for different reasons and I think personally that it's vile of others to do/say such harsh things to truly innocent people just because of something they don't like in something like *vore* of all things.
I personally prefer the finality of fatal vore, willing or unwilling - willing is a very fun and endearing aspect.
or throwing back up (but that makes me weirdly uncomfortable cuz I have aversion to it irl. xD but at least they are whole! so I wouldn't be against drawing that either, as long as other food things didn't come up. sdfkjbsdkfjs)
....I guess my character, Remy, is in non-fatal vore cuz he is going to be used again and again. xD WELL THEN. But I also don't feel anything for him/in his place. :P so to me the art he's in would still be fatal. >.> unless the client tells me otherwise.
To let them go afterwards kind of defeat that purpose i feel.
Willing prey I'm a bit mixed about, and is very based on the people involved.
Is it a friend? Then yes, I'm fine with it.
Is it a stranger? Then no, not interested in it.
Maybe the whole difference is if the person who likes unsafe vore has a pred character, vs someone who has a prey character and they like safe vore? Though I'm sure there's a mix, too! But I'd be curious on the numbers/percentage.
I have some rules my brain likes to follow: context is important in fatal scenarios, soul vore is a VERY conditional thing, snakes/nagas cannot be prey in any scenario or harmed in any way, size difference is ideal (Preferably prey being around half the size of the pred), and cannon characters as prey is not ideal, especially in fatal scenarios: unless that is how their story is meant to go.
My brain is kind of all over the place sometimes. Even I am not fully sure of all the rules it goes by.
I do go for reformation/cloning though so it doesn't have to be the final end of a character, but I feel those processes should take a few days so they aren't instantaneously back
when it comes to willing, I mainly like it if it's sexual. xD Though unwilling but still sexual is also fun. LOL
That said I also avoid sadistic stuff.
Vore is so interesting with how varied it can be.
Try not to let some loud, angry kids get to ya. They just try and yell real loud and offensive until someone gives them attention!
I love hard vore with blood/guts but I'll RAAAAARELY draw it cuz I'd have to have a client get it from me. xD and have to be in a specific mood to draw it. Sometimes I actually feel uncomfortable with it, so it's this weird push and pull with it, despite loving it. kdfjbsdlkjfbl
I haven't had really anyone go at me yet, so I'm just goin off what I see from others. :0
That said, I am very 'soft' in that I want the prey to survive the experience, and vore art that makes it clear that the prey is digested immediately turns me off to it, though implications of finality can add that extra spice when done subtly.
So, my answer would be that I always like 'safe' vore, but 'unsafe' vore that's done right is my favorite.
Whenever I upload something with graphic digestion, blood, or just bones, I lose a watcher or two, but that's just how it is. Maybe they got digested
which sounds funny to say. xD But my stuff could be seen either way, I feel, since I don't really show "finality" in my art.
I'm sure I'll lose some people from the very rare gore art I may do. But it would be like 1% of my stuff! I haven't even done it yet! XD
the biggest thing ive seen during my time and limited interaction within the community is that between those two preferences, one side will call the other childish or naive, and the other will call them unfeeling and cruel, and sometimes these feelings fester into outbursts of negativity.
i know what i dont like, it's not my mission to make that anyone else's problem.
I have this thing where I LOVE torturing my characters in various ways, but can't stand things like that irl. Though, the torture stuff is for my characters I don't post here anyways. xD
It's not so much a desire to die, but rather the curiosity of wondering what it is really like. I tend to only be willing when encountering sentient, 'friendly' predators, where there is almost a playful excitement to it, and gazing into their dark, fleshy gullet gives a welcoming seduction.
Of course, once inside a stomach, I don't want it to be all safe and enjoyable. I like the idea of regretting that stupid decision to allow a predator to devour me. I tend to leave it up to the predator if I pass out before digestion kicks in, or if I'm left to write and suffer in agony.
and can be a sexual thing! like BDSM. XD more on the pain part, but just imagining it. heh!
Though with vore it's clearly very, very decisive.
It's something I encountered years back before I signed off the subject for nearly 16 years. But this 'safety vore', i.e. non-fatal, is what drew me back. Why? I've been into BDSM as the Dominant for most of my life now and the encasement kinks overlapped with vore enough that it got me back into it.
So to me non-fatal is more welcome as I get to keep enjoying the endo/happy pred feels of the same willing and interested prey over and over thus building a relationship rather than letting it go with the last blissful gurgle. Not that I'm against fatal and revival, either, though my tastes differ into my own niche of vore that is not for everyone.
Thus we come full circle- everyone's tastes in vore differ and are selective as much as people's general kink preferences. It shocked me how deep the vore community had grown between 2001 when I abandoned it and then rejoined in 2017. And that scope of preferences is hard to coast through as a creator and it's why I've come to admire and follow so many in recent years. Even if they do something that isn't something I enjoy yet in the end they produce enough that I do not really let it bother me. I expect others to do the same and that is, sadly, expecting a lot nowadays... ah well.
I love all the differences, and I have the same view as you. I watch a bunch of artists who do some content I don't care for, but there may be art of the thing that looks interesting or well done that I fave it anyways! I may not personally draw the thing, but I can admire others who do!
HOWEVER, my absolute FAVORITE type is unwilling/unwilling, nonfatal, but ALMOST fatal. I love the angst and intensity of it, I love both pred and prey being horrified at the situation, with a NEAR death experience. Or at least the prey terrified out of their mind but the pred HAS to swallow them for some reason or another and feels horrible for scaring the prey so bad. I like emotional and physical torment that ultimately ends up safe and comforting, even though it took the characters going through hell and back to get there. I hope that makes sense! But yeah, I used to ONLY draw soft vore, and when I started drawing hard/gory/fatal, I definitely experienced some harassment as if I was doing some horrible thing. @w@; Though on the other hand, when I posted only soft, I would get fatal people making snarky, rude, and upsetting comments about how it was 'unrealistic' (my dude, vore itself is unrealistic), on how they wished the characters would get digested, and that there was something inherently weak/soft/oversensitive about those who enjoy soft vore/endo. It just seems to me that both sides have wonderful people and terrible people, and both sides think the other side is less tolerant and accepting than themselves. Lots of people only focusing on the few loud jerks on either side! And it does really suck that those few loud assholes make people from either side dislike their counterpart. For the most part? I have found that BOTH sides are wonderful, accepting communities, it's just that any group is bound to have a few who poorly represent them! I hope we can all just come together and be vore fans together, supporting each other no matter what their preferences are, even if we might not share those preferences. Anyways!! Sorry, that's my big ole ramble. Soft/nonfatal/endo/safe is great. Hard/fatal/digestive/unsafe is great. It's all cool and wonderful and unique! <3
So for me, making this journal is helping me see a variety of views. :3
and this is helping me prepare for the crazies to voice their opinions. XD...
Prefer unsafe, usually. Even if willing. It just makes sense honestly.
People who get butt hurt over other people's preferences baffle me. We're all kinky mother fuckers, get over it. Express you don't like something, if it matters. If you're going to go on a crusade about it, then you're just a drama queen XD (A terrifying norm in the world these days, actually =/ )
It baffles me more when kinky people shame other kinky people. I'd expect it from those who are more "pure"!
That being said, the idea of the finality of fatal vore is also something I like to think about, willing or unwilling. There's so many ideas to explore with that as well, though I do find my enjoyment for fatal vore to be a little harder to explain.
Either way, there's nothing to be gained by getting upset at people for their preferences! I don't understand why people get so up in arms about that kind of stuff.
also I just remembered that some people like the thought of fatal vore, with how they, as the prey, become one with the predator. So in a way it's a "safe" view as well as it's comforting for them.
swallowing whole is just more fun! though in my head doesn't seem as tasty. LOL
It's just more appealing to me to be reduced to nothing but a meal for a predator, as compared to being held safely inside of them.
Of course, I do like the idea of the prey thinking it's going to be safe vore, only to be betrayed by the predator and end up melting away.
I enjoy both willing and unwilling, as while I understand that instinctive struggle to survive, I also have the curiosity to discover what it's like to have all that wet flesh squeezing in around you, knowing you are giving yourself completely to a predator.
And I do agree about people feeling the need to express their dislike of things which others enjoy. I've seen that a lot, due to my preferences. I simply don't understand that need for them to try to shame or guilt others, when they themselves are enjoying a fetish which others find distasteful.
and that's a fun thought too! Or a pred just giving in to their desires.
and yeah!! it just doesn't make sense to me. Part of me wants me to ask them why, but most of the time they'll just continue to be rude. =_=
I feel that while fatal, unwilling and super mean vore can be thrilling, safe vore is harder for me to figure out how to make work, but that's just me!
but yeah I'm quite disappointed by people who go out of their way to harass or ostracize others over fantasy kinks. Wanting to avoid content that upsets or triggers you is more than fine, but bullying or endorsing bullying of people who aren't even hurting anyone is just cruel.
and that's me currently as well! But I wanna explore it a bit more
I like the "safe" side when the prey is swallowed, kept for a while in a stomach, warm, comfortable (and with the smells, I personally love it) with a friendly predator. But I really like an intimate relationship between the prey and the predator, on the other hand involving digestion. I love digestion. And I love it when the prey has a way to come back to life without stealing nutrients from their predator, so they can get swallowed again! This is how my fox Thux is (my main character, also in pp) a vore lover, being the prey of reptiles, birds, dragons... being digested, disposed, etc. And come back with a "new" body, and enjoy it again. It's up to the unsafe vore, after all, when you get into a stomach, you're actually unlikely to come out alive. I like the realism of vore (which is why I'm not really a fan of same size or big belly) and therefore, unless there is a special power, if a predator wants to do "safe vore", he doesn't has no interest in keeping the prey in him for a long time! And preferably on an empty stomach.
So, I like both. Safe and unsafe vore. Maybe a little more unsafe vore, with digestion and other, but with a willing prey.
and that sounds like an interesting way to go about it! :0
I'm also not a fan for same size and big belly. xD only big "bellies" I like are with snakes, since that is real. LOL
That's natural and logic, and my favorites predators :3 Her body made for swallow huge preys.
But if you are interested about what specifically I like about safe vore, it's pretty simple. I just really like being in a belly. The idea of a dank fleshy capsule all around me is incredibly captivating and cool to me. I just wanna stay whole throughout the process- not being ground to bits or turned to pudge. Also, to be frank, digestion just makes me feel bad- I don't really like looking at digestion art, even though I often look at it anyways. Call it sick curiosity. But I hope you liked reading my thoughts!
Honestly I'd love if more people with your view point commented here as well! I changed my mind on me saying "if I draw it assume fatal unless otherwise stated" and would rather people think what they want for the images!
but that's nice to hear as well~ :D
For preymy favorite is curiosity or nervousness, so not fully willing nor unwilling :p
As for other types of vore, namely unbirth, i like that as a strictly safe vore option.
I recently faved a comic that had a pred getting off to that. Interesting! I can see why others wouldn't like it, tho!
Curiosity sounds fun! I think that's how Hida is. :3
and for me, if I remember what unbirth is, that's one I don't like. XD aha
my favorite scenario is still a pet getting adopted by a family, eating a lot of food to grow bigger, and then eventually eating the family itself, all while being curiously hungry about it. kinda a dark scenario but its my favorite!
I am fine to discuss with those willing and do want to hear another side, but I do not tolerate those acting this way.
My main appeal is "safe" vore with the threat of digestion but usually non-fatal. It's easy for me to get in my head a bit and relate too much to the prey and frankly, I just don't want to be digested alive all that much.
However, Fatal or unsafe vore definitely strikes my interest every now and again, particularly if the pred is feral and closer to a wild animal than a sentient being. The whole cruel pred who's intentionally harming someone gets me thinking a bit too much about my own mortality and all that.
But these are just my preferences and I understand everyone is different.
I'd love to do feral-feral sometime! That sounds funnn. Usually I've just been drawing characters that have a human-like mind!
and that's also understandable. :3
I think your comment sparked a comic YCH idea... LOL
However, I'm glad I could spark a YCH comic! This might be one of my most prideful moments on this site yet! Call it a happy little accident!
Prey gets captured, and is clearly in distress and doesn't wanna be eaten. Is eaten. Frantic/panicking within the stomach... but as time goes on, nothing happens. The prey character will finally realize that the fluid within isn't digesting them and the pred character made a prank out of it. lol So would have a funny end. hah
and yay! :D Happy accidents are fun! XD
I wanna work on this comic once I finish the last YCH image I have to do~
Idk I like it to be more realistic than sensual... its more of a thrill... ;o
I've come to find that I really love learning about other peoples' vore preferences. Even for stuff that I don't think I like very much. There's always something I might pick up from the people around me, or something that I may find that I like after all, despite disliking it in the past. I used to hate hard vore, but then I did some writing for character that took place in the afterlife and needed a way for that character to have died, and I went with the "killed and eaten by wild animals" route and accidentally found that I kinda liked that, too! I like to always be open to experiment with new things; I never know what I might turn out to like.
That being said, there are some types of "vore" I won't touch no matter what. Myself, I can't even really consider it vore unless it's through the mouth, so stuff like CV, AV, unbirth, or any of that nsfw variety I will stay very far from.
Gore is the only "nsfw" I will go near because with the media I was exposed to growing up, it doesn't feel nsfw to me. And well, that also goes back to the point about realism I made in my other comment. You would expect to see gore in real life vore.
Yeah those vore things I am not much for. Gotta be through the mouth for me!
Though I still like sexual vore if the prey is being stimulated!
Agreed with gore. :3
Unwilling or unwilling it doesn’t matter to me. But I love when prey is unwilling and becomes willing toward the end and give up.
I also have a character that can reform their body after death. So would that be safe vore?
and yeah I think that would be considered a form of safe vore, since no "finality" of it
But what he eats stays dead. I am not that kind.