how to act responsible 101 for artists and their customers
Posted 18 years agothis is stolen from someone else's journal, who stole it from someone else who found it on the net, along with some more comments which make sense. i think you get the picture... this is by no way menat to rise drama, so please, if you read this, be responsible with your comments. thank you.
now, enjoy:
the artist side:
10. Yes, artists deserve the "ridiculous" prices they charge. Consider the fact that your average pic takes about four hours from sketch to final coloring: if you pay $40 that's $10 an hour. So no, $10 is not an appropriate price for a full-color, full length drawing.
9. Just because they draw pr0n doesn't mean they'll draw your pr0n.
8. Bitching at an artist every hour until they do your commission is not a good way to motivate them.
7. Just because she's submissive doesn't mean she wants to submit to you. Just because she's domme doesn't mean she wants you as a pet.
6. It's okay to live and let live. The fact that they don't share your interest doesn't make them a bad person. Pushing your interests on them makes you a jerk.
5. Chatting with someone for five minutes does not mean they love you, nor does it make them your friend, your mate, your buddy, nor even a casual acquaintance.
4. Believing you're actually a dragon in a human body is fine. Thinking this makes you so much better than everyone else out there makes you a narcissistic jerk.
3. It's spelled HUMAN. H-U-M-A-N. If you use "Hyoomon" in serious conversation, you are either a Ferengi or a moron.
2. Buying a commission from an artist does not entitle you to cybor or picz. Buying a book from Barnes and Nobel doesn't entitle you to a free bj from the author.
1. When in doubt, remember Winston Churchill: "A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
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the middle path:
10. Not all fans are fanboys, or at least some of us try not to be.
9. Making snide comments about the physiques, manners, or odor of fans, as a generalization, is something understanding fans will allow. You're under a lot of stress. But if you do, while we may let it slide, we won't forget. Your opinion matters-- and hurts.
8. If we like your work, we'll buy stuff to support you even if we aren't absolutely thrilled by what's on the sale table this time. Believe it or not.
7. A commission is a deal, a deal is a contract, and a contract applies to you as much as it does to us.
6. We don't pay you what it's worth because we can't. Nobody could.
5. If you can't do it, say so before money exchanges hands.
4. It really doesn't make your fan happy if you take a commission and then complain publicly about the subject matter, or the detail level the fan provided you for that commission. Even if you don't name names, the commissioner will still recognize himself.
3. If the commissioner says "Please draw me a horsie," and no more, perhaps it's because the last person he commissioned from likes wide-open, general suggestions. If you prefer more detail, don't stew about it and don't complain about it. Ask.
2. If on the other hand the commissioner specifies everything down to the number of stitches in a saddle girth and the number of horseshoe nails on his horse commission, perhaps it's because the last person he commissioned from wants that much detail. Some do. If you'd rather do something else, please don't complain about it. Ask.
1. After ten years or so of trying to support artists one likes, and of being insulted, talked about, and lumped in as one of a million greasy, stinky fanboys-- we quit. We stop supporting artists. We give up and stay home.
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the customer's side:
10. Spending the money you got from a commission should generally be avoided until you've at least started on it.
9. Your ego should not be proportional to the square of your art skills.
8. Similarly, your level of general assholishness shouldn't increase with your level of art skill.
7. The fact that you have a skill which people will wait in line for is your good fortune and shouldn't be abused.
6. Working on multiple personal projects while customers wait for what they paid for is just as rude when it comes to furry art as it does a retail store.
5. When someone pre-pays for art, their money is their deposit, and your good reputation is yours. If you decide not to do their commission, not only are you a thief, but they have every right to let everyone know that.
4. It's OK to make friends with someone who isn't "as good" of an artist as you, or an artist at all--hopefully there's more going on in your life and making and receiving drawings.
3. Ignoring thoughtful feedback from a no-name art appreciator while responding to mindless feedback from a big-name artist makes you an elitist jerk.
2. When it's already been paid for, six hours for a good drawing is great time, six days is average time, six weeks is bad time, six months is unacceptable.
1. Your drawing skills are no more or less impressive than other skills, such as writing, music, programming, or other skilled creative expression. The only reason you're "better" than most other people is because you perpetuate the view that none of those other skills are worth the years of refinement and practice that go into them. Don't fool yourself into thinking that everyone around you who doesn't draw is skilled only in masturbation.
now, enjoy:
the artist side:
10. Yes, artists deserve the "ridiculous" prices they charge. Consider the fact that your average pic takes about four hours from sketch to final coloring: if you pay $40 that's $10 an hour. So no, $10 is not an appropriate price for a full-color, full length drawing.
9. Just because they draw pr0n doesn't mean they'll draw your pr0n.
8. Bitching at an artist every hour until they do your commission is not a good way to motivate them.
7. Just because she's submissive doesn't mean she wants to submit to you. Just because she's domme doesn't mean she wants you as a pet.
6. It's okay to live and let live. The fact that they don't share your interest doesn't make them a bad person. Pushing your interests on them makes you a jerk.
5. Chatting with someone for five minutes does not mean they love you, nor does it make them your friend, your mate, your buddy, nor even a casual acquaintance.
4. Believing you're actually a dragon in a human body is fine. Thinking this makes you so much better than everyone else out there makes you a narcissistic jerk.
3. It's spelled HUMAN. H-U-M-A-N. If you use "Hyoomon" in serious conversation, you are either a Ferengi or a moron.
2. Buying a commission from an artist does not entitle you to cybor or picz. Buying a book from Barnes and Nobel doesn't entitle you to a free bj from the author.
1. When in doubt, remember Winston Churchill: "A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
* * *
the middle path:
10. Not all fans are fanboys, or at least some of us try not to be.
9. Making snide comments about the physiques, manners, or odor of fans, as a generalization, is something understanding fans will allow. You're under a lot of stress. But if you do, while we may let it slide, we won't forget. Your opinion matters-- and hurts.
8. If we like your work, we'll buy stuff to support you even if we aren't absolutely thrilled by what's on the sale table this time. Believe it or not.
7. A commission is a deal, a deal is a contract, and a contract applies to you as much as it does to us.
6. We don't pay you what it's worth because we can't. Nobody could.
5. If you can't do it, say so before money exchanges hands.
4. It really doesn't make your fan happy if you take a commission and then complain publicly about the subject matter, or the detail level the fan provided you for that commission. Even if you don't name names, the commissioner will still recognize himself.
3. If the commissioner says "Please draw me a horsie," and no more, perhaps it's because the last person he commissioned from likes wide-open, general suggestions. If you prefer more detail, don't stew about it and don't complain about it. Ask.
2. If on the other hand the commissioner specifies everything down to the number of stitches in a saddle girth and the number of horseshoe nails on his horse commission, perhaps it's because the last person he commissioned from wants that much detail. Some do. If you'd rather do something else, please don't complain about it. Ask.
1. After ten years or so of trying to support artists one likes, and of being insulted, talked about, and lumped in as one of a million greasy, stinky fanboys-- we quit. We stop supporting artists. We give up and stay home.
* * *
the customer's side:
10. Spending the money you got from a commission should generally be avoided until you've at least started on it.
9. Your ego should not be proportional to the square of your art skills.
8. Similarly, your level of general assholishness shouldn't increase with your level of art skill.
7. The fact that you have a skill which people will wait in line for is your good fortune and shouldn't be abused.
6. Working on multiple personal projects while customers wait for what they paid for is just as rude when it comes to furry art as it does a retail store.
5. When someone pre-pays for art, their money is their deposit, and your good reputation is yours. If you decide not to do their commission, not only are you a thief, but they have every right to let everyone know that.
4. It's OK to make friends with someone who isn't "as good" of an artist as you, or an artist at all--hopefully there's more going on in your life and making and receiving drawings.
3. Ignoring thoughtful feedback from a no-name art appreciator while responding to mindless feedback from a big-name artist makes you an elitist jerk.
2. When it's already been paid for, six hours for a good drawing is great time, six days is average time, six weeks is bad time, six months is unacceptable.
1. Your drawing skills are no more or less impressive than other skills, such as writing, music, programming, or other skilled creative expression. The only reason you're "better" than most other people is because you perpetuate the view that none of those other skills are worth the years of refinement and practice that go into them. Don't fool yourself into thinking that everyone around you who doesn't draw is skilled only in masturbation.
Nice Guys Finish LAST!
Posted 18 years agoTo every guy that's said, "Sex can wait."
To every guy that's said, "You're BEAUTIFUL."
To every guy that was never too busy to drive across town (or across the state) to see her.
To every guy that gives flowers and a card when she is sick.
To every guy who has given her flowers just because.
To every guy that said he would die for her.
To every guy that REALLY would.
To every guy that did what she wanted to do.
To every guy that cried in front of her.
To every guy that she cried in front of.
To every guy that holds hands with her.
To every guy that kisses her with MEANING.
To every guy that hugs her when she's sad.
To every guy that hugs her for no reason at all.
To every guy who would give their jacket up for her.
To every guy that calls to make sure she got home even though she went home with that other guy.
To every guy that would sit and WAIT for her for hours just to see her for ten minutes.
To every guy that would give his seat up.
To every guy that just wants to CUDDLE.
To every guy that reassured her that she was beautiful no matter what.
To every guy who told his secrets to her.
To every guy that tried to show how much he CARED through every word and every breath.
To every guy that thought maybe this could be the ONE.
To every guy that believed in her dreams.
To every guy that would have done anything so she could achieve them.
To every guy that never laughed at her when she told him her dreams.
To every guy that walked her to her car.
To every guy that WASN'T just trying to get laid.
To every guy that gave his HEART and SOUL.
To every guy who PRAYS that she is HAPPY even if you are not with her.
Not many girls appreciate nice guys anymore ... And because of this, there are not many left out there!!!
If you are a nice guy repost this with "Nice guys finish last." in great big letters
If you are a girl that thinks every guy should try to accomplish even a few of these repost this with: "To the nice guys left behind"
To every guy that's said, "You're BEAUTIFUL."
To every guy that was never too busy to drive across town (or across the state) to see her.
To every guy that gives flowers and a card when she is sick.
To every guy who has given her flowers just because.
To every guy that said he would die for her.
To every guy that REALLY would.
To every guy that did what she wanted to do.
To every guy that cried in front of her.
To every guy that she cried in front of.
To every guy that holds hands with her.
To every guy that kisses her with MEANING.
To every guy that hugs her when she's sad.
To every guy that hugs her for no reason at all.
To every guy who would give their jacket up for her.
To every guy that calls to make sure she got home even though she went home with that other guy.
To every guy that would sit and WAIT for her for hours just to see her for ten minutes.
To every guy that would give his seat up.
To every guy that just wants to CUDDLE.
To every guy that reassured her that she was beautiful no matter what.
To every guy who told his secrets to her.
To every guy that tried to show how much he CARED through every word and every breath.
To every guy that thought maybe this could be the ONE.
To every guy that believed in her dreams.
To every guy that would have done anything so she could achieve them.
To every guy that never laughed at her when she told him her dreams.
To every guy that walked her to her car.
To every guy that WASN'T just trying to get laid.
To every guy that gave his HEART and SOUL.
To every guy who PRAYS that she is HAPPY even if you are not with her.
Not many girls appreciate nice guys anymore ... And because of this, there are not many left out there!!!
If you are a nice guy repost this with "Nice guys finish last." in great big letters
If you are a girl that thinks every guy should try to accomplish even a few of these repost this with: "To the nice guys left behind"
furry artist manifesto, crosslinked
Posted 18 years agothis is a link from
faroenightclaw , and it is a manifesto of rules every artist out there, be it drawing, poetry or writing, should live by. i think it would make things much easier and harmonic in this here fandom.
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/77978/

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/77978/
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