YumiCH's doing a raffle
Posted a month ago
YumiCH 's doing a lovely b-day art raffle over at https://www.furaffinity.net/view/62222030/ - Go check it out!FA's Beta Layout
Posted 5 months agoFinally bit the bullet and changed the layout to the beta, mostly to get access to the dang blacklisting add-on for "I reeeally don't want to see this." (Though good lord does there need to be a community driven tagging effort so things actually are findable / not dodging said blacklists.)
I'd love to know why it's off-centered to the left, centered was easier to read. I'm curious as to why the heck the banner is so dang big vs what it was. I can't say I understand a lot of the design decisions made but eh, I've been around since day 2006 so may just be set in my ways.
What do you folks think about it? I'm tempted to prod at noscripts and turn off the obnoxious elements. Actually, I'm just going to do that anyway.
I'd love to know why it's off-centered to the left, centered was easier to read. I'm curious as to why the heck the banner is so dang big vs what it was. I can't say I understand a lot of the design decisions made but eh, I've been around since day 2006 so may just be set in my ways.
What do you folks think about it? I'm tempted to prod at noscripts and turn off the obnoxious elements. Actually, I'm just going to do that anyway.
Ohhh, tentacle raffle
Posted 6 months agoGo check out
Purrfiy 's tentacle raffle, linked here! https://www.furaffinity.net/view/60658348/ More the more tentacles the merrier.
Purrfiy 's tentacle raffle, linked here! https://www.furaffinity.net/view/60658348/ More the more tentacles the merrier.Greenbud Vomit's doing a free raffle
Posted 7 months agoOne of my favorite toothy-smile peddlers (
greenbud_vomit ) is doing a free raffle over at https://www.furaffinity.net/view/60228689/ - Go and check them out.
greenbud_vomit ) is doing a free raffle over at https://www.furaffinity.net/view/60228689/ - Go and check them out.Exploration, Games, and Writing a Setting
Posted 2 years agoLet's take a look at two recently released games and their views on exploration and storytelling and the difference between them and what separates fascinating and rewarding exploration from insulting exploration.
Baldurs Gate 3 - Being the nosiest fuck in the sword coast gets you flung to bizarre places by petulant outsiders, the SUN BEAM, and story relevant puzzles / story adjacent lore areas where being said nosy fuck pays off with cinematic cutscene, relevant to location and story item rewards, or greatly expanding on companion stories. An aggressive take of Show do not Tell. This is exploration at near it's zenith, beautiful, enticing, rewarding, and expands on everything going on in the background. It comes off as a love letter to being said nosiest fuck on the Sword Coast even with it's flaws and for a game about fighting off your imminent death man does it scratch the right itches even with it's bug-tacular and incomplete 3'rd act.
Starfield - Being the nosiest fuck in the milky way gets you.... randomly color coded gear at most hand crafted sites (There are exceptions, but blue, purple, orange unrelated garbage is the usual reward) maybe a ship if you're lucky that is in no way story relevant, and companion story quests that do not expand on the setting itself or the companion themselves. The storytelling quickly becomes an iteration of "Join the army / become a cop /debt collector, it's good for you!," "An alien did it," and "Academics are all hyper-individualistic ego maniacs," themes that pair poorly with a story that's theoretically about space explorers, a mechanic Bethesda's made both boring and unpleasant to do. It's a mechanic that's there to be there, not a mechanic that's integral to the story itself. There are good parts but it comes with baggage that makes it a septic slog to trudge through.
Personally love exploration focused games - Subnautica, Red Dead, Horizon Zero, and Hollow Knight all do it so incredibly well as it's an integral part of what makes those games tick. Yes, there is combat in them, but large portions of it are avoidable if you chose to do so and when it is mandated, the writers make it story relevant. A thought process that Bethesda hasn't thought about since the Shimmering Isles at the latest.
Baldurs Gate 3 - Being the nosiest fuck in the sword coast gets you flung to bizarre places by petulant outsiders, the SUN BEAM, and story relevant puzzles / story adjacent lore areas where being said nosy fuck pays off with cinematic cutscene, relevant to location and story item rewards, or greatly expanding on companion stories. An aggressive take of Show do not Tell. This is exploration at near it's zenith, beautiful, enticing, rewarding, and expands on everything going on in the background. It comes off as a love letter to being said nosiest fuck on the Sword Coast even with it's flaws and for a game about fighting off your imminent death man does it scratch the right itches even with it's bug-tacular and incomplete 3'rd act.
Starfield - Being the nosiest fuck in the milky way gets you.... randomly color coded gear at most hand crafted sites (There are exceptions, but blue, purple, orange unrelated garbage is the usual reward) maybe a ship if you're lucky that is in no way story relevant, and companion story quests that do not expand on the setting itself or the companion themselves. The storytelling quickly becomes an iteration of "Join the army / become a cop /debt collector, it's good for you!," "An alien did it," and "Academics are all hyper-individualistic ego maniacs," themes that pair poorly with a story that's theoretically about space explorers, a mechanic Bethesda's made both boring and unpleasant to do. It's a mechanic that's there to be there, not a mechanic that's integral to the story itself. There are good parts but it comes with baggage that makes it a septic slog to trudge through.
Personally love exploration focused games - Subnautica, Red Dead, Horizon Zero, and Hollow Knight all do it so incredibly well as it's an integral part of what makes those games tick. Yes, there is combat in them, but large portions of it are avoidable if you chose to do so and when it is mandated, the writers make it story relevant. A thought process that Bethesda hasn't thought about since the Shimmering Isles at the latest.
Features Wish List For FA
Posted 2 years agoAbility to user-add Tags
A related tags function.
A tag's black list
If FA ever bothered to implement a remotely similar tag function to any of the Danbooru layout sites (furrybooru, rule34, e621, ect) dear god would it be easier to find things on here and keep other things I seriously do not want to see out of the picture.
Shame none of these really nice little things are unlikely to ever get added.
Anyone know why FA's been adamantly against adding any of these? (Will admit skepticism behind the "Preventing abusive tag creation" claim. I am not a moderator on any of those other sites but I don't, with any frequency, see comments about tag abuse.)
Anyway, back to existing!
Ta
A related tags function.
A tag's black list
If FA ever bothered to implement a remotely similar tag function to any of the Danbooru layout sites (furrybooru, rule34, e621, ect) dear god would it be easier to find things on here and keep other things I seriously do not want to see out of the picture.
Shame none of these really nice little things are unlikely to ever get added.
Anyone know why FA's been adamantly against adding any of these? (Will admit skepticism behind the "Preventing abusive tag creation" claim. I am not a moderator on any of those other sites but I don't, with any frequency, see comments about tag abuse.)
Anyway, back to existing!
Ta
Setting Background - Factions and Races - WIP
Posted 5 years agoA breakdown of species and frequencies of occurrence within the empire, federation, swarm, squids, and unaffiliated(Draconids)
Distinguishable Imperial Species
Lupine - Common (Founding Species, story in the works)
Corvid - Uncommon (Founding Species, co-evolved with Lupines)
Pachydermata - Variable (Founding Species, comprised of thick skinned mammals, elephants, rhinos, hippos, and boars)
Bovine - Common (Founding Species, quazi-uplift, late to bronze age)
Vulpine - Common (Story about this later, complicated)
Equine - Uncommon (Early acquisition, age of expansion)
Cirolanidae - Exceedingly rare (Early acquisition, age of expansion)
Chiroptera - Uncommon (Mid acquisition, age of expansion, wildly diverse)
Nudibranchs - Exceedingly rare (Accidental discovery and incorporation. This is going to be fun to write)
Cervine - Uncommon (Late acquisition, age of expansion)
Ursine - Rare (Late Acquisition, age of expansion.)
Procyon - Rare (Late acquisition, age of expansion. Always at least one in a diplomatic mission. Due to that, most contacts assume them to be common, this is done for disinformation purposes)
Distinguishable Federation Species
Peafoul - Uncommon (Founding Species, notoriously vain)
Dromornithidae/Phorusrhacids - Variable (Founding Species, squabble with Peafoul constantly)
Mustelids - Common (Founding species)
Varanidae - Common (Founding species)
Canine - Common (Second Founding)
Caprinae - Uncommon (Founding Species)
Formicidae - Rare (Founding Species)
Mantids - Rare (Second Founding)
Leporids - Uncommon (Second Founding)
Elasmobranchii - Exceedingly rare (Second Founding)
Tortoises - Uncommon (Second Founding)
Vulpine - Common (Complicated)
Distinguishable Squid Species (They need a better name, will work on that)
Cephalopoda - Common (Founding Species)
Rorquals - Exceedingly rare (Founding species)
Eurypterids- Common (Founding Species)
Placeholder Name - Exceedingly rare [Basing this off of the Ceadeus from monster hunter world]
Spiniform - Uncommon (Founding species)
This is going to be work in progress.
Swarm Species
Swarmers (Primary, left over bioweapon from a long forgotten war.)
- Anything that ends up here that isn't a swarmer is assumed to be food, a reproductive recepitcle, or a recreational object. While there are several distinct species they keep (felines being a favored food source) their involvement is, at best, as livestock.
Distinguishable species of the Cartel
Any and all, to varying degrees. This includes, albeit rarely, divergent members of the swarm. Their primary overseers tend to be Fungonids - sentient massive fungi who oversee the day to day of operations. This ties heavily into their interest in rogue planets, highly radioactive rogue planets.
Distinguishable Imperial Species
Lupine - Common (Founding Species, story in the works)
Corvid - Uncommon (Founding Species, co-evolved with Lupines)
Pachydermata - Variable (Founding Species, comprised of thick skinned mammals, elephants, rhinos, hippos, and boars)
Bovine - Common (Founding Species, quazi-uplift, late to bronze age)
Vulpine - Common (Story about this later, complicated)
Equine - Uncommon (Early acquisition, age of expansion)
Cirolanidae - Exceedingly rare (Early acquisition, age of expansion)
Chiroptera - Uncommon (Mid acquisition, age of expansion, wildly diverse)
Nudibranchs - Exceedingly rare (Accidental discovery and incorporation. This is going to be fun to write)
Cervine - Uncommon (Late acquisition, age of expansion)
Ursine - Rare (Late Acquisition, age of expansion.)
Procyon - Rare (Late acquisition, age of expansion. Always at least one in a diplomatic mission. Due to that, most contacts assume them to be common, this is done for disinformation purposes)
Distinguishable Federation Species
Peafoul - Uncommon (Founding Species, notoriously vain)
Dromornithidae/Phorusrhacids - Variable (Founding Species, squabble with Peafoul constantly)
Mustelids - Common (Founding species)
Varanidae - Common (Founding species)
Canine - Common (Second Founding)
Caprinae - Uncommon (Founding Species)
Formicidae - Rare (Founding Species)
Mantids - Rare (Second Founding)
Leporids - Uncommon (Second Founding)
Elasmobranchii - Exceedingly rare (Second Founding)
Tortoises - Uncommon (Second Founding)
Vulpine - Common (Complicated)
Distinguishable Squid Species (They need a better name, will work on that)
Cephalopoda - Common (Founding Species)
Rorquals - Exceedingly rare (Founding species)
Eurypterids- Common (Founding Species)
Placeholder Name - Exceedingly rare [Basing this off of the Ceadeus from monster hunter world]
Spiniform - Uncommon (Founding species)
This is going to be work in progress.
Swarm Species
Swarmers (Primary, left over bioweapon from a long forgotten war.)
- Anything that ends up here that isn't a swarmer is assumed to be food, a reproductive recepitcle, or a recreational object. While there are several distinct species they keep (felines being a favored food source) their involvement is, at best, as livestock.
Distinguishable species of the Cartel
Any and all, to varying degrees. This includes, albeit rarely, divergent members of the swarm. Their primary overseers tend to be Fungonids - sentient massive fungi who oversee the day to day of operations. This ties heavily into their interest in rogue planets, highly radioactive rogue planets.
Updating Stories
Posted 5 years agoGoing through and filling in stories that I'd put aside for way too long and the keywords associated to them. If you think you see a tag that needs to go with a piece, please throw a comment on it!
Background & Storyboarding - The things commissioned here.
Posted 6 years agoThe little story clips that go with the artwork I've commissioned here are, save a few exceptions, tied together in an overlapping drama.
If you've ever played the real time 4x strategy game Stellaris, then the following will make a lot of sense to you.
Our major background actors are a Driven Assimilator (Empire), a Devouring Swarm (Insectile - If anyone knows of a good monster artist have an old rough of what they aught to look like), Enigmatic Observers (Cephalopods), a slightly unstable Federation, a overtly xenophobic ancient caretaker (Machine intelligence) and a megacorp cartell who'll gladly sell your mother on tuesday for a hamburger today to fill in some of the cracks.
Will need to re-order a bunch of things eventually since it's a hot mess in here right now.
If you've ever played the real time 4x strategy game Stellaris, then the following will make a lot of sense to you.
Our major background actors are a Driven Assimilator (Empire), a Devouring Swarm (Insectile - If anyone knows of a good monster artist have an old rough of what they aught to look like), Enigmatic Observers (Cephalopods), a slightly unstable Federation, a overtly xenophobic ancient caretaker (Machine intelligence) and a megacorp cartell who'll gladly sell your mother on tuesday for a hamburger today to fill in some of the cracks.
Will need to re-order a bunch of things eventually since it's a hot mess in here right now.
Well crud - Anyone save that pink husky girl?
Posted 7 years agoSome time in the last few weeks someone put up a muscular pink husky girl up as an adopt. Made the mistake of favoriting it without saving it to disk. If anyone managed to save that to hard disk, it'd be greatly appreciated to toss a file copy my way. Intend to use her as a body reference for a few pieces I'd like to have done.
Much appreciated,
Desert
Much appreciated,
Desert
Curiouser and Curiouser
Posted 7 years agoAn observation that's been amusing me over the past few months, there's been a massive upswing in Russian based artists who rely heavily on YCH auctions. The most interesting thing to tack onto this is paypal, the most commonly used way to pay artists on FA, is not usable in Russia as there is no way to withdraw funds from it according to paypal itself.
Wonder what reverse image searching these YCH poses would bring up, some of them look exceedingly familiar.
Wonder what reverse image searching these YCH poses would bring up, some of them look exceedingly familiar.
A Quality of Life Suggestion for FA
Posted 7 years agoSuppose this'd only work if artists actually labeled their work correctly or there was a community effort to do it properly but it'd be damn nice if there was ability to blacklist certain tags on images so they'd auto-delete from the new submissions page. There is some stuff on here that I'd certainly rather not see.
Removing Patreon Paywall Powered Artists.
Posted 8 years agoFirst and foremost, this is not a slight against artists that use Patreon in an ethical manner. There are artists that do it right, early access to works in progress, higher resolution works, and vote-to-create are among acceptable behaviors on the platform. This has nothing to do with artists who treat the platform in that fashion.
That said, in 2014, my old journal pointed out what the majority of Patreon accounts would become for most artists, a rent seeking service that creates literal paywalls. So many artists now rely on it and use it to do exactly what that journal was concerned with that honestly it's time to stop rewarding artists that do this with recommendations, watches, or any form of business. It's consistently gone from bad to worse and the behavior should not be rewarded.
Out of all the well known artists on this site, there are enough on here that make old content inaccessible, paywall different image 'versions', and treat the entire thing as an all around subscription service.
Do the artists deserve to make a living for what they do? Absolutely.
Should artists rely on predatory practices to accomplish it? No.
The sooner other FA users stop supporting artists that abuse Patreon and treat it as a subscription service, the better.
That said, in 2014, my old journal pointed out what the majority of Patreon accounts would become for most artists, a rent seeking service that creates literal paywalls. So many artists now rely on it and use it to do exactly what that journal was concerned with that honestly it's time to stop rewarding artists that do this with recommendations, watches, or any form of business. It's consistently gone from bad to worse and the behavior should not be rewarded.
Out of all the well known artists on this site, there are enough on here that make old content inaccessible, paywall different image 'versions', and treat the entire thing as an all around subscription service.
Do the artists deserve to make a living for what they do? Absolutely.
Should artists rely on predatory practices to accomplish it? No.
The sooner other FA users stop supporting artists that abuse Patreon and treat it as a subscription service, the better.
Curiosity regarding Comissions
Posted 10 years agoI'm rather curious as to how others describe their commissions to the artists they are commissioning.
Case in point, used to do it via positions and angles (See "Hands behind the head, elbows bent, biceps level to the collarbone. Neck raised up at a 45 degree angle. Belly pushed towards the screen at a 15 degree angle)
Gave up on doing it this way after one too many kerfuffles, decided to just make the rough outline in pant.net as it allows for quickly(ish) slapping together exactly what's going on in my head. It's more involved on my end but it removes most guess-work. So far the results have been fantastic. Can't help but think that it may make artists feel awkward when someone does this much work to make certain a piece is done right, would love to hear from some of them regarding people who do this or if it's as unusual as I suspect.
For Commissioners - How do other people describe their commissions to artists they work with?
For Artists - How do you prefer people to submit requests and descriptions to you?
Case in point, used to do it via positions and angles (See "Hands behind the head, elbows bent, biceps level to the collarbone. Neck raised up at a 45 degree angle. Belly pushed towards the screen at a 15 degree angle)
Gave up on doing it this way after one too many kerfuffles, decided to just make the rough outline in pant.net as it allows for quickly(ish) slapping together exactly what's going on in my head. It's more involved on my end but it removes most guess-work. So far the results have been fantastic. Can't help but think that it may make artists feel awkward when someone does this much work to make certain a piece is done right, would love to hear from some of them regarding people who do this or if it's as unusual as I suspect.
For Commissioners - How do other people describe their commissions to artists they work with?
For Artists - How do you prefer people to submit requests and descriptions to you?
Thanks for Coloring and Current Projects
Posted 11 years agoTo the people who have been using the commission line art that the gents at the Line Art free use folks put up, thanks a hell of a lot for using it! I've seen some pretty fantastic edits/coloration jobs done with them and I hope they keep getting used! Its fantastic to see what public commons can do for advancing both peoples personal talents and to see what all else is done with openly accessible artwork to play with!
If it is possible I'll see about hunting down the old lineart for other pieces in my gallery (If they still exist) to make available. Most of them I'd love to see run through other peoples pallets and see what they come up with. The one's I don't put up, well, those are personal :P
Now on to other projects. Most of the commission work I have has some soft tie-ins with a writing project I've been fiddling around with off and on for some years. Intending to incorporate them all into segments in the style of a "Choose your own adventure" book. As soon as I finish off getting the assorted backlog done I'll post the story and correlating artwork to the scenario you pick for the characters. Hoping things go well enough to justify picking up the commissioning rate again to fill out at least a few days worth of reading for anyone interested. Once it is started please remember that I am currently taking college classes so after the initial postings it is likely that any updates will be interspersed with course workload.
o7 Fly safe pilots.
If it is possible I'll see about hunting down the old lineart for other pieces in my gallery (If they still exist) to make available. Most of them I'd love to see run through other peoples pallets and see what they come up with. The one's I don't put up, well, those are personal :P
Now on to other projects. Most of the commission work I have has some soft tie-ins with a writing project I've been fiddling around with off and on for some years. Intending to incorporate them all into segments in the style of a "Choose your own adventure" book. As soon as I finish off getting the assorted backlog done I'll post the story and correlating artwork to the scenario you pick for the characters. Hoping things go well enough to justify picking up the commissioning rate again to fill out at least a few days worth of reading for anyone interested. Once it is started please remember that I am currently taking college classes so after the initial postings it is likely that any updates will be interspersed with course workload.
o7 Fly safe pilots.
Art Study and YCH outlines
Posted 11 years agoLike everything that happens within society, everything has two sides, and certain things come with some rather amusing fringe uses outside of their intended purpose.
One of my favorite little pastimes is collecting masses of line work and YCH outlines for the simple study of anatomy among various artists as the simple lines lay down the foundation of their artwork and their style. These are fantastic educational tools for anyone wanting to progress their own quality of artwork as it provides a good look at how certain bodies are built, the wire frames some artists use to outline joints and positioning of shoulders and major bodily pivots, and they make for damn good practice pieces when time permits.
We've likely all seen some of our favorite artists put up a couple (In the case of some artists, it is the only thing they do anymore. You know who you are.) YCH auctions or price set pre-poses with a general body outline already done with varying detail ranging from proportioned stick-figures to full flat lines with intricate detail already put in just waiting for a species and coloration to be added. Some of these are used en-mass to generate quick revenue, generally the set pre-poses that are used en-mass, and then the ych auctions which inhabit a pricing world all of their own. The inconsistent pricing variation is not really my concern right now, what people assign as value to their work or work done for them is between them and the artist who does the piece.
The sheer magnitude of YCH poses and outlines scattered throughout FA, Inkbunny, Weasyl, ect make for a fantastic entry point for people wanting to pick up drawing proper and need an example of something they love artistically (Body styles, proportions, poses, ect.) to get themselves going in the right direction. Just as technology is generally built on older technologies and how culture is built out of an amalgamation of older culture so are new generations of artists built off of the generations that came before them. Progression may not be wholly linear but it does have a tendency to steadily go one way.
One of my favorite little pastimes is collecting masses of line work and YCH outlines for the simple study of anatomy among various artists as the simple lines lay down the foundation of their artwork and their style. These are fantastic educational tools for anyone wanting to progress their own quality of artwork as it provides a good look at how certain bodies are built, the wire frames some artists use to outline joints and positioning of shoulders and major bodily pivots, and they make for damn good practice pieces when time permits.
We've likely all seen some of our favorite artists put up a couple (In the case of some artists, it is the only thing they do anymore. You know who you are.) YCH auctions or price set pre-poses with a general body outline already done with varying detail ranging from proportioned stick-figures to full flat lines with intricate detail already put in just waiting for a species and coloration to be added. Some of these are used en-mass to generate quick revenue, generally the set pre-poses that are used en-mass, and then the ych auctions which inhabit a pricing world all of their own. The inconsistent pricing variation is not really my concern right now, what people assign as value to their work or work done for them is between them and the artist who does the piece.
The sheer magnitude of YCH poses and outlines scattered throughout FA, Inkbunny, Weasyl, ect make for a fantastic entry point for people wanting to pick up drawing proper and need an example of something they love artistically (Body styles, proportions, poses, ect.) to get themselves going in the right direction. Just as technology is generally built on older technologies and how culture is built out of an amalgamation of older culture so are new generations of artists built off of the generations that came before them. Progression may not be wholly linear but it does have a tendency to steadily go one way.
Patreon - The direction of Art
Posted 11 years agoA little over a month ago I'd mentioned Patreon and rent seeking behaviors, those behaviors of expecting an income off of doing as little as possible. As time progresses more and more popular artists are changing their behaviors from a commissioner basis to a Patreon model that allows artists to utterly ignore their former commissioners in favor of "do whatever." From the perspective of an artist this is a fantastic concept... if they can balance it with the blunt fact that support is fickle in the FA community.
If an artist wholly supports themselves through Patreon they are going to have to alter their habits altogether. As they now need donors to maintain an interest in their artwork to support them they open the floodgates to what I like to call "The cult of group-think" - they either do this or the prospect of having an ever dwindling supply of financial support kicks in. Yes it allows the artist more freedom initially but unless they produce things that interest/entertain their watchers they will end up providing a service with nobody to consume it.
We already have artists who support themselves off of endless YCH auctions and to be frank those wore thin on practical buyers of artwork a long time ago. It may be years before the practices die out and there are going to be some hardliner holdouts that will vehemently deny any problems with this system but lets be perfectly fair, these models are both unsustainable. I'd be willing to be that a surprisingly large percentage of the furry community exists at or below the national poverty level (Quite aware that a very large % of the community also consists of college age students, ages 18~30, meaning near 0 net income).
Right, getting to a point. If you provide a service with no consumers or extremely limited interest... you'll eventually fall to relying on commissions when nobody wants to put up with those behaviors any more and depending on how gracefully its done there's a good chance most of your former audience will avoid you because of past behaviors. - There are reasons places like Artists Beware exists
If an artist wholly supports themselves through Patreon they are going to have to alter their habits altogether. As they now need donors to maintain an interest in their artwork to support them they open the floodgates to what I like to call "The cult of group-think" - they either do this or the prospect of having an ever dwindling supply of financial support kicks in. Yes it allows the artist more freedom initially but unless they produce things that interest/entertain their watchers they will end up providing a service with nobody to consume it.
We already have artists who support themselves off of endless YCH auctions and to be frank those wore thin on practical buyers of artwork a long time ago. It may be years before the practices die out and there are going to be some hardliner holdouts that will vehemently deny any problems with this system but lets be perfectly fair, these models are both unsustainable. I'd be willing to be that a surprisingly large percentage of the furry community exists at or below the national poverty level (Quite aware that a very large % of the community also consists of college age students, ages 18~30, meaning near 0 net income).
Right, getting to a point. If you provide a service with no consumers or extremely limited interest... you'll eventually fall to relying on commissions when nobody wants to put up with those behaviors any more and depending on how gracefully its done there's a good chance most of your former audience will avoid you because of past behaviors. - There are reasons places like Artists Beware exists
Sooooo Skype Spambots eh?
Posted 11 years agoDarn, took me one line to figure out it was a spambot. The rest is just me attempting to remember how to program these sorts of stupid things. Its a really easy few lines of code (Albeit the last time I did this it was on a TI-83+) so there are likely easier ways to do this.
[7:08:21 PM] ahmetler_6464: are you online?
[7:08:54 PM] Desert: I very may well be. Might I ask who you are?
[7:09:15 PM] Eileen Kunkel: I'm 23/F looking for someone to talk too...
[7:09:34 PM] Desert: Skype is a very odd medium to use for that purpose.
[7:10:03 PM] Eileen Kunkel: My real name is Amanda and from Cali, can i ask u something?
[7:10:54 PM] Desert: On the condition that you can prove that you are not an automated program.
[7:11:25 PM] Eileen Kunkel: Do you like big booty girls with big tits? lol seriously cuz thats what i have. Is that too much for you to handle?
[7:13:47 PM] Desert: If you were black, about 6'0' with about a 30-34 inch waist line, an athlitically toned build, short cropped hair with soft facial features on an elongated ovil facial structure then I'd be quite interested. However as I doubt that you are I'm betting your next line of text will be a link to a cam website.
[7:14:19 PM] Eileen Kunkel: ok this is really turning me on, i wanna show you what i'm wearing right now.. is that ok?
[7:14:45 PM] Desert: And that would be the shamless link associated with an automated program. Shame.
[7:15:13 PM] Eileen Kunkel: :) (heart) you make me smile a lot :) (heart) i want you to hold on really hard ;) i'm going to setup my camera for you.
[7:16:10 PM] Desert: Uh-huh. I do wonder how much these websites are paying in service fees to have these things going.
[7:16:44 PM] Eileen Kunkel: Ok this is super easy just like goto http://81O8mCkOsr.disrespectmybody.com and accept the invitation on that website.
[7:17:31 PM] Desert: And there we go. The obligatory website. Wonderful, absolutely wonderful. Someone give this programmer a lollipop they earned it!
[7:18:02 PM] Eileen Kunkel: Don't worry baby the site i'm on is FREE to join all you have to do is register they support mobile phones too :)
[7:19:38 PM] Desert: Uh huh, now just waiting for either a 1-900 number or a credit-card form. I do wonder if they had any fun before this terminates.
[7:20:08 PM] Eileen Kunkel: fill out your cc info baby for Age verification ONLY, your card will not be charged. ok i'm ready for u now
[7:21:35 PM] Desert: There it is, right there, creditcard forum. Called it! Now lets see if this is set to <if line = X (insert line of text to go to here) return to 1 (where one is set as program start.)
[7:22:08 PM] Eileen Kunkel: I want you to talk to me dirty baby. i really like that. What color Panties do you think i should wear?
[7:23:20 PM] Desert: Ohhh, looks like I was off by a few lines. Might just be <if line = X (where X is the final line) then end program.
[7:23:50 PM] Eileen Kunkel: I'll do anything you want me to do. I know how to make u happy, I can show you what fits in my mouth...
[7:24:22 PM] Desert: Shall we wait and see where this repeats itself? Shall we? Ahhh yes yes we shall.
[7:24:51 PM] Eileen Kunkel: I'm So Horny right now! Do Whatever You have to, to get in! i'll spank my ass and tits until they are red for u!!!
[7:26:04 PM] Desert: Now if they had any remote understanding of programming they'd have at least used the same code structure as cleverbot with a filter for more proper replies for sentences.
[7:26:33 PM] Eileen Kunkel: Your such a good boy, i'm gonna show you what good boys deserve. i'll be waiting for you on the site http://mNESaRGuniY.disrespectmybody.com my username is UxoHottiexo
[7:27:41 PM] Desert: Ohhh wasn't expecting two services to be using it! This might take longer than anticipated.
[7:32:05 PM] Desert: And there we go folks /end program (technically /end would work in most cases.)
[7:08:21 PM] ahmetler_6464: are you online?
[7:08:54 PM] Desert: I very may well be. Might I ask who you are?
[7:09:15 PM] Eileen Kunkel: I'm 23/F looking for someone to talk too...
[7:09:34 PM] Desert: Skype is a very odd medium to use for that purpose.
[7:10:03 PM] Eileen Kunkel: My real name is Amanda and from Cali, can i ask u something?
[7:10:54 PM] Desert: On the condition that you can prove that you are not an automated program.
[7:11:25 PM] Eileen Kunkel: Do you like big booty girls with big tits? lol seriously cuz thats what i have. Is that too much for you to handle?
[7:13:47 PM] Desert: If you were black, about 6'0' with about a 30-34 inch waist line, an athlitically toned build, short cropped hair with soft facial features on an elongated ovil facial structure then I'd be quite interested. However as I doubt that you are I'm betting your next line of text will be a link to a cam website.
[7:14:19 PM] Eileen Kunkel: ok this is really turning me on, i wanna show you what i'm wearing right now.. is that ok?
[7:14:45 PM] Desert: And that would be the shamless link associated with an automated program. Shame.
[7:15:13 PM] Eileen Kunkel: :) (heart) you make me smile a lot :) (heart) i want you to hold on really hard ;) i'm going to setup my camera for you.
[7:16:10 PM] Desert: Uh-huh. I do wonder how much these websites are paying in service fees to have these things going.
[7:16:44 PM] Eileen Kunkel: Ok this is super easy just like goto http://81O8mCkOsr.disrespectmybody.com and accept the invitation on that website.
[7:17:31 PM] Desert: And there we go. The obligatory website. Wonderful, absolutely wonderful. Someone give this programmer a lollipop they earned it!
[7:18:02 PM] Eileen Kunkel: Don't worry baby the site i'm on is FREE to join all you have to do is register they support mobile phones too :)
[7:19:38 PM] Desert: Uh huh, now just waiting for either a 1-900 number or a credit-card form. I do wonder if they had any fun before this terminates.
[7:20:08 PM] Eileen Kunkel: fill out your cc info baby for Age verification ONLY, your card will not be charged. ok i'm ready for u now
[7:21:35 PM] Desert: There it is, right there, creditcard forum. Called it! Now lets see if this is set to <if line = X (insert line of text to go to here) return to 1 (where one is set as program start.)
[7:22:08 PM] Eileen Kunkel: I want you to talk to me dirty baby. i really like that. What color Panties do you think i should wear?
[7:23:20 PM] Desert: Ohhh, looks like I was off by a few lines. Might just be <if line = X (where X is the final line) then end program.
[7:23:50 PM] Eileen Kunkel: I'll do anything you want me to do. I know how to make u happy, I can show you what fits in my mouth...
[7:24:22 PM] Desert: Shall we wait and see where this repeats itself? Shall we? Ahhh yes yes we shall.
[7:24:51 PM] Eileen Kunkel: I'm So Horny right now! Do Whatever You have to, to get in! i'll spank my ass and tits until they are red for u!!!
[7:26:04 PM] Desert: Now if they had any remote understanding of programming they'd have at least used the same code structure as cleverbot with a filter for more proper replies for sentences.
[7:26:33 PM] Eileen Kunkel: Your such a good boy, i'm gonna show you what good boys deserve. i'll be waiting for you on the site http://mNESaRGuniY.disrespectmybody.com my username is UxoHottiexo
[7:27:41 PM] Desert: Ohhh wasn't expecting two services to be using it! This might take longer than anticipated.
[7:32:05 PM] Desert: And there we go folks /end program (technically /end would work in most cases.)
Rent Seeking Behavior and YCH Auctions
Posted 11 years agoAnyone who watches FA will have noticed a flood of YCH auctions from artists with 5k+ watchers over the past year and a half. The auctions and the payouts generally associated with them can often be taken to 'the absurd.' There are now several incidents of single character no background per-rendered poses and a highly questionable amount of actual work put into them going for $500 usd or more. It is an interesting phenomena to watch.
We'll break it down into economic reasons from the artists perspective first. For an artist, especially a popular artist with 5k+ followings, there is zero incentive for them to do standard commissions with the YCH auction model. Why bother with commissioner requests when you can make 4-5 times your standard rate doing a pose you've already done the basic outline for. From an artists standpoint this is an idyllic situation as it removes almost all input from the buyer outside of usually species and gender.
Someone I watch once had a stream titled "Pay me to draw what I want to draw" - This is entirely the mentality behind it. With those auctions it guarantees the artist is drawing something they wanted to draw in the first place while getting paid (on average) far more than they would charge for commissioned work. This is made significantly worse with an auction mentality where you often have 2-3 individuals driving the prices over what a classically trained graphics artist would charge. From time to time this bidding contest goes so far as to put it outside of the means of the bidders (There are several journal rants of these instances scattered across FA). I have my suspicions that some artists may go through less than legitimate means to artificially inflate their prices on these types of auctions to guarantee payouts. In that situation a non-paying ban can be slapped on the alt account and they can still collect on the second bid.
There is a secondary (and thankfully much smaller) group that operates through services like paetron (a quick description - think of paetron as a 'voluntary' subscription service) - This is full on rent-seeking behavior as people pay a monthly amount to the artist and the artist is not required to give anything in return. There is the slim argument that they are helping to subsidize a favored artists expenses and can feel good about it but from a value for work done for their supporters, this is truly scraping the bottom of the barrel as this model doesn't even require them to produce anything to earn revenue.
Now from the buyers perspective neither of these models are beneficial. They provide by far the least value for, generally, the highest price. Outside of internet bragging rights there really isn't an incentive to buy into these. There is the counter argument of "I like the pose" but this falls on its face immediately when standard commission work already allows you to dictate the pose of your choice instead of the artists choice of pose. There is also the concept of caveat emptor, let the buyer beware, both caveat emptor and the pose argument shouldn't be a thing if commissioners take the time to do a little bit of research on the artist and check their past history. There are artists that have shown up on sites like Artists Beware because of their past performance and it is tempting to sidle artists who slink into the land of "pre-pose auctions" and their counterparts in the pateron camp right next to those who take the money and run. It's not that different.
There are a few artists who can command a triple digit price tag. They are generally the full photo realism folks, professional graphic artists, who do insane amounts of work on a piece by piece basis - See http://rlv.zcache.de/wusten_prinzes....._8byvr_324.jpg - Work done by Kannos on Inkbunny (apologies for having to use a link where their artwork was outright stolen to sell mouse pads but I could not find the original). These people pour themselves into their commissioners work. I have zero qualms with these folks as they provide a breathtaking amount of depth.
We'll break it down into economic reasons from the artists perspective first. For an artist, especially a popular artist with 5k+ followings, there is zero incentive for them to do standard commissions with the YCH auction model. Why bother with commissioner requests when you can make 4-5 times your standard rate doing a pose you've already done the basic outline for. From an artists standpoint this is an idyllic situation as it removes almost all input from the buyer outside of usually species and gender.
Someone I watch once had a stream titled "Pay me to draw what I want to draw" - This is entirely the mentality behind it. With those auctions it guarantees the artist is drawing something they wanted to draw in the first place while getting paid (on average) far more than they would charge for commissioned work. This is made significantly worse with an auction mentality where you often have 2-3 individuals driving the prices over what a classically trained graphics artist would charge. From time to time this bidding contest goes so far as to put it outside of the means of the bidders (There are several journal rants of these instances scattered across FA). I have my suspicions that some artists may go through less than legitimate means to artificially inflate their prices on these types of auctions to guarantee payouts. In that situation a non-paying ban can be slapped on the alt account and they can still collect on the second bid.
There is a secondary (and thankfully much smaller) group that operates through services like paetron (a quick description - think of paetron as a 'voluntary' subscription service) - This is full on rent-seeking behavior as people pay a monthly amount to the artist and the artist is not required to give anything in return. There is the slim argument that they are helping to subsidize a favored artists expenses and can feel good about it but from a value for work done for their supporters, this is truly scraping the bottom of the barrel as this model doesn't even require them to produce anything to earn revenue.
Now from the buyers perspective neither of these models are beneficial. They provide by far the least value for, generally, the highest price. Outside of internet bragging rights there really isn't an incentive to buy into these. There is the counter argument of "I like the pose" but this falls on its face immediately when standard commission work already allows you to dictate the pose of your choice instead of the artists choice of pose. There is also the concept of caveat emptor, let the buyer beware, both caveat emptor and the pose argument shouldn't be a thing if commissioners take the time to do a little bit of research on the artist and check their past history. There are artists that have shown up on sites like Artists Beware because of their past performance and it is tempting to sidle artists who slink into the land of "pre-pose auctions" and their counterparts in the pateron camp right next to those who take the money and run. It's not that different.
There are a few artists who can command a triple digit price tag. They are generally the full photo realism folks, professional graphic artists, who do insane amounts of work on a piece by piece basis - See http://rlv.zcache.de/wusten_prinzes....._8byvr_324.jpg - Work done by Kannos on Inkbunny (apologies for having to use a link where their artwork was outright stolen to sell mouse pads but I could not find the original). These people pour themselves into their commissioners work. I have zero qualms with these folks as they provide a breathtaking amount of depth.
Death in the family
Posted 11 years agoGrandfather on my fathers side passed away on Tuesday from a massive aneurysm triggering a series of strokes. This worsened his condition to the point where he was able to pull maybe one breath out of every four unassisted. His living will requested that he not be put on life support if he was deemed unrecoverable. Hospital staff stated that he had passed that threshold.
Odd that I can only pity the man now that he's passed. He was not kind nor was he loving to his children and all three of them have different scars from it. Not certain who had the worst of it.
Pops was essentially abandoned to the military. He enlisted and while he was deployed the old man had the rest of the family pack up and move to another state without ever informing him. When he returned strangers were living in the house he grew up in knowing next to nothing about the people who owned the property last. There are amazingly few jobs that a submarine pilot/navigator(I know the proper term, it's just easier to explain this way) is qualified for outside of active duty. He didn't find them again for several years and even then that was only through his sister getting in contact with him. His deliberate advances on pops first wife happened to be a major contributing factor for the failure of that marriage, somewhere out there I've a step sister I've never met and will likely never hear from because of him.
Uncle had a seizure when he was a teenager and was from that moment on shuttered from the outside world. He has extreme problems with social interaction due to having almost all of it removed from him (Outside of rare cases of instant messenger use when "computer time" was allotted.) He is a nice enough man in his way but he's been so shuttered that functioning in society is nearly impossible for him.
Aunt was abused by him and has borne the scars externally for so long now, lashing out and making herself as unapproachable as possible that any contact with her is measured on a per-annum basis and that is on a good year. She still heaps and heaps responsibilities on herself until she is so buried in what she is doing that any attempt to approach her is met with extraordinary aggression. She will constantly remind others of how much work she is taking on and then refuse to let others help mostly to keep them away.
If there were any last words that might have redeemed him, they have long since passed. Somewhere I hope he at least managed to think back on his life and say "I'm sorry" to his family for the damage caused. I really can't find it in me to feel sorry for the man or to mourn his loss. I can only find it in me to pity him and be glad that, despite the damage done, my old man for all his flaws, will never be a mirror of his father and at least my old mans children actually love him instead of despise, pity, or fear him.
Odd that I can only pity the man now that he's passed. He was not kind nor was he loving to his children and all three of them have different scars from it. Not certain who had the worst of it.
Pops was essentially abandoned to the military. He enlisted and while he was deployed the old man had the rest of the family pack up and move to another state without ever informing him. When he returned strangers were living in the house he grew up in knowing next to nothing about the people who owned the property last. There are amazingly few jobs that a submarine pilot/navigator(I know the proper term, it's just easier to explain this way) is qualified for outside of active duty. He didn't find them again for several years and even then that was only through his sister getting in contact with him. His deliberate advances on pops first wife happened to be a major contributing factor for the failure of that marriage, somewhere out there I've a step sister I've never met and will likely never hear from because of him.
Uncle had a seizure when he was a teenager and was from that moment on shuttered from the outside world. He has extreme problems with social interaction due to having almost all of it removed from him (Outside of rare cases of instant messenger use when "computer time" was allotted.) He is a nice enough man in his way but he's been so shuttered that functioning in society is nearly impossible for him.
Aunt was abused by him and has borne the scars externally for so long now, lashing out and making herself as unapproachable as possible that any contact with her is measured on a per-annum basis and that is on a good year. She still heaps and heaps responsibilities on herself until she is so buried in what she is doing that any attempt to approach her is met with extraordinary aggression. She will constantly remind others of how much work she is taking on and then refuse to let others help mostly to keep them away.
If there were any last words that might have redeemed him, they have long since passed. Somewhere I hope he at least managed to think back on his life and say "I'm sorry" to his family for the damage caused. I really can't find it in me to feel sorry for the man or to mourn his loss. I can only find it in me to pity him and be glad that, despite the damage done, my old man for all his flaws, will never be a mirror of his father and at least my old mans children actually love him instead of despise, pity, or fear him.
Coloring Line-art and Modifying images
Posted 11 years agoI do not mind if people use/color the line-art in my gallery or modify it to suit their own whims within reason.
If any modified pieces falls under any of the following fetishes it is not done with my consent nor did I approve it being used in that fashion.
The list of "no-go's" are as follows
Infantilism
Diapers
Fat-furs
Watersports
Scat
Farting
Ageplay
"Pool-toys"/Inflatables (Things like minor semen inflation/water/ect doesn't bug me, rubbers do.)
Popping - See above
Bodily fluids/Solids (Semen/Drool/Vaginal oils/lubrication are fine)
If it isn't on here but it you have questions, ask.
-Desert
If any modified pieces falls under any of the following fetishes it is not done with my consent nor did I approve it being used in that fashion.
The list of "no-go's" are as follows
Infantilism
Diapers
Fat-furs
Watersports
Scat
Farting
Ageplay
"Pool-toys"/Inflatables (Things like minor semen inflation/water/ect doesn't bug me, rubbers do.)
Popping - See above
Bodily fluids/Solids (Semen/Drool/Vaginal oils/lubrication are fine)
If it isn't on here but it you have questions, ask.
-Desert
Theories
Posted 12 years agoI have devised a theory that seems most prudent!
I call it the "Violent sock puppet theory"
The nature of this theory is as follows. When you make a pair of sock puppets and slide them over your hands and just happen to be by yourself, you are guaranteed, at some point in time, to attempt to have one sock puppet attempt to "Eat" the other. Now there are a great many reasons why this happens, boredom, you find it amusing, inner child etcetera etcetera etcetera.
Now the thing that I've found the best place to apply the "Violent sock puppet theory" just so happens to be with gratuitous amounts of drama and well, the fine art of "trolling."
An example -
Party X says party y is a troll
Party Y says party x is a troll
Party X and party Y devolve into a flame war ((The act of one sock trying to eat the other.))
Party X and Y get bored and go off to do something else.
Now when people start doing something stupid and inconsequential you can yell "Violent sock puppets"
Have fun with it.
I call it the "Violent sock puppet theory"
The nature of this theory is as follows. When you make a pair of sock puppets and slide them over your hands and just happen to be by yourself, you are guaranteed, at some point in time, to attempt to have one sock puppet attempt to "Eat" the other. Now there are a great many reasons why this happens, boredom, you find it amusing, inner child etcetera etcetera etcetera.
Now the thing that I've found the best place to apply the "Violent sock puppet theory" just so happens to be with gratuitous amounts of drama and well, the fine art of "trolling."
An example -
Party X says party y is a troll
Party Y says party x is a troll
Party X and party Y devolve into a flame war ((The act of one sock trying to eat the other.))
Party X and Y get bored and go off to do something else.
Now when people start doing something stupid and inconsequential you can yell "Violent sock puppets"
Have fun with it.
On Inkbunny
Posted 13 years agoI have an account yes. Is it often used? No.
I know FA has its problems but at least the site layout doesn't give me damned migraines. Doesn't matter what the hell I do to IB's layout, it's the foreground that needs to be changed to "Not glaringly white" and that is not an option.
I know FA has its problems but at least the site layout doesn't give me damned migraines. Doesn't matter what the hell I do to IB's layout, it's the foreground that needs to be changed to "Not glaringly white" and that is not an option.
Ahh Nostalgia and memories : None of this probably matters
Posted 13 years agoSome times after a good glass of wine and spending time with close friends you get a chance to go and reflect on life and everything in it. It's fun to look back at the good and the bad and just see how you've come out of it all.
I've done some amazingly wonderful and stupid shit in my life, chased some things up the wrong tree and hit a good few dead ends here and there. To those I have known for years thanks for being supportive when need be. To those who I've wronged or left feeling used I meant no harm, we all do truly amazingly stupid things.
To the folks that helped out doing mission work in Juarez Mexico (regardless of personal religious beliefs) I know that when we went back to check in next year that nothing we had done was left there. Desperation and poverty are poor bedfellows. The food poisoning wasn't that bad!
To my dear fox fox, evil lecherous gloved paws and all, thanks for keeping this grumpy old wolf in line and for letting me vent when the pharmacy starts to drive me insane. Only another week and then some and I get to show you some of the most amazing wilderness in the state! I have some horror stories from hospital shifts to tell yet! Ahh Heparin, you lovely horrible anti-platelet medication.
To the very very few that came before, to Brina Li, No idea where you went or what happened but I hope your life is going well. Sweden is an amazing country and after spending several months in it, I find myself wanting to leave less and less each time... The food needs some work but that can be corrected!
To Nissa, you are a delightful woman and motivated in everything you ever did. For the time that I knew you, you were as kind and patient as they came.
To Raven. Unfortunately we did not part on the most pleasant of terms. Hopefully New York is treating you right and your career as a Beautician is going marvelously! Still thankful that you were not here during that awful shooting.
To Suka, you were absolutely right I'd been grinding my wheels for far too long. Thanks for kicking my sorry ass into high gear, though a bit too late for things between us to work out. Hopefully you're safe, sound and surrounded by people that care for you. You mister huskybutt, will always be a friend and welcome here if you ever end up over seas. Only a little smidgeon to go before finishing a drastically stretched out licensing project.
Ahh, some times it just feels good to reflect. Just get it all out there. Ahh good to have life moving again, sometimes jumping back on the roller coaster takes more then ya really want to put out there. Now I just need to figure out what to do with this magnetron and car battery.
Desert
I've done some amazingly wonderful and stupid shit in my life, chased some things up the wrong tree and hit a good few dead ends here and there. To those I have known for years thanks for being supportive when need be. To those who I've wronged or left feeling used I meant no harm, we all do truly amazingly stupid things.
To the folks that helped out doing mission work in Juarez Mexico (regardless of personal religious beliefs) I know that when we went back to check in next year that nothing we had done was left there. Desperation and poverty are poor bedfellows. The food poisoning wasn't that bad!
To my dear fox fox, evil lecherous gloved paws and all, thanks for keeping this grumpy old wolf in line and for letting me vent when the pharmacy starts to drive me insane. Only another week and then some and I get to show you some of the most amazing wilderness in the state! I have some horror stories from hospital shifts to tell yet! Ahh Heparin, you lovely horrible anti-platelet medication.
To the very very few that came before, to Brina Li, No idea where you went or what happened but I hope your life is going well. Sweden is an amazing country and after spending several months in it, I find myself wanting to leave less and less each time... The food needs some work but that can be corrected!
To Nissa, you are a delightful woman and motivated in everything you ever did. For the time that I knew you, you were as kind and patient as they came.
To Raven. Unfortunately we did not part on the most pleasant of terms. Hopefully New York is treating you right and your career as a Beautician is going marvelously! Still thankful that you were not here during that awful shooting.
To Suka, you were absolutely right I'd been grinding my wheels for far too long. Thanks for kicking my sorry ass into high gear, though a bit too late for things between us to work out. Hopefully you're safe, sound and surrounded by people that care for you. You mister huskybutt, will always be a friend and welcome here if you ever end up over seas. Only a little smidgeon to go before finishing a drastically stretched out licensing project.
Ahh, some times it just feels good to reflect. Just get it all out there. Ahh good to have life moving again, sometimes jumping back on the roller coaster takes more then ya really want to put out there. Now I just need to figure out what to do with this magnetron and car battery.
Desert
Appropriate wait time
Posted 13 years agoThis is just more of a broad spectrum question in regards to appropriate wait times on commission work. While I do most certainly understand that artists lives can be chaotic and that off and on they take on significantly more then they can chew, I do find myself wondering exactly how long is too long to wait?
So far the longest wait times went to a pair of quite delightful pics done by Kevin which are now in my gallery, http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6790898/ and http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6743868/ at almost a year to the date of requesting it. ((Thankfully she did keep frequent contact with all of her commissioners, she had swamped herself, I am eternally grateful for the updates))
The second piece which is now going on nine months I've not so much as gotten any progression notes from the artist, no indication of where in the line I sit nor even so much as a rough wire-frame outline. I have sent in a 'check up' not every roughly every two months to see where things are. I understand they have moved recently but as stated, any sign of progression has yet to be stated, shown, explained ect.
At what point is it fair then to...
A.) Request the piece finished or at least a bloody progress piece
B.) Request a refund
C.) Turn them over to the FA mod staff for noncompliance
I would Really quite like to avoid B and C as I am very fond of the artists work.
So far the longest wait times went to a pair of quite delightful pics done by Kevin which are now in my gallery, http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6790898/ and http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6743868/ at almost a year to the date of requesting it. ((Thankfully she did keep frequent contact with all of her commissioners, she had swamped herself, I am eternally grateful for the updates))
The second piece which is now going on nine months I've not so much as gotten any progression notes from the artist, no indication of where in the line I sit nor even so much as a rough wire-frame outline. I have sent in a 'check up' not every roughly every two months to see where things are. I understand they have moved recently but as stated, any sign of progression has yet to be stated, shown, explained ect.
At what point is it fair then to...
A.) Request the piece finished or at least a bloody progress piece
B.) Request a refund
C.) Turn them over to the FA mod staff for noncompliance
I would Really quite like to avoid B and C as I am very fond of the artists work.
FA+
