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Loremaster | Registered: August 14, 2020 02:11:31 AM
Just the humble creator of https://www.EonLegacy.com
I do the best I can to give everyone a chance to expand their imaginations.
I do the best I can to give everyone a chance to expand their imaginations.
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Recent Journal
The "No A.I. Controversy"
a year ago
I'd like to preamble my statement with this:
I stopped most traditional art drawing when I was 15 after my hands were smashed and the nerves were damaged in that accident. I have, however, been a digital artist for over 20 years since then. I taught "Dark Nurse" how to digitally shade and color along with provided her hundreds of references and "Got her started in the fandom". She went her own way. I helped dozens of other artists with teaching and references and general "How to draw" education provided by Antarctic Press and a few other publishers and watched people go from "Hand drawn sketches $3" to "Fully digitally rendered on a cintiqe for $1000+" (you know who you are).
I stopped most traditional art drawing when I was 15 after my hands were smashed and the nerves were damaged in that accident. I have, however, been a digital artist for over 20 years since then. I taught "Dark Nurse" how to digitally shade and color along with provided her hundreds of references and "Got her started in the fandom". She went her own way. I helped dozens of other artists with teaching and references and general "How to draw" education provided by Antarctic Press and a few other publishers and watched people go from "Hand drawn sketches $3" to "Fully digitally rendered on a cintiqe for $1000+" (you know who you are).
To the point:
Fast forward to today. I've hired multiple artists to finish the artwork for my RPG. Many of them are traditional artists who scan their works in after inking it on paper and then finishing the rendering with hand-drafting, paint dropping, line thinning, shades and highlights. It's a lengthy process, hours of detail work if more than "Flats" are asked for. Time is money no matter how you look at it. An artist spending 20+ hours to dither texture on fur or pores on scales or metal straiation on armor is insane. Disney doesn't do that, Warner Brothers Doesn't either, as a matter of fact if you access their vaults or see their concept art it's the most slap-shot "quick jobs" you'll ever see before a final product when it comes to "Traditional art". Then we get to "CG" art - skins on rigs on skeletons instructed to moth through a simulated 3D space interacting with other objects within that space. I've seen artists here do it! Plenty of NSFW 3D animations could be cited as examples. The issue now comes down to "Why no A.I. Art on FA?". The answer is "A very loud group feels it detracts from their work and it's theft!" but the problem isn't that "It's theft" because to be honest all art is derivative weather you are formally trained with a doctorate in the "science of art" or the "art of art" or some kind of self-tained "Talented artist". References, body references, visual sources, and the whole body of "Things to get ideas from" or "See it from a correct angle" or any number of citation are things artists are "Drawing from". That's not to discount "Their style" or "Their linework" because that is the soul of their content but it all comes from somewhere.
H.R. Geiger, years ago, said "The computer will one day be able to spit out my works based on my works and half a dozen other artists who do like I do. It will be something someone has not drawn with my style but it will be something to itself original but derivative. It is progress. Terrifying progress but still progress. I won't be around to see it, probably, but I know it's coming. I saw computers spitting out random things based on my work in the eighties and nineties. It's just a matter of time before everyone can. It too is valid but we must not forget the artist. Always remember they got their skills from somewhere too." at his gallery in Los Angeles where he signed my copy of Necronomicon. He's right that the artist is important. However, if artists were to work in tandem with their A.I. tools then they'd have the ability to have a bot color-by-number and shade their work after it's drawn in a few seconds. They could plug their body of art, isolated, into am A.I. and tag every image with every detail then derive thousands of images based off of long-gone artists of the past or their own stuff and create whole new works.
However, FA is what it is. Driven by those who fear progress. If we really wanted to be rough about it we could say "All furry content is a ripoff of WB and Disney. Plagiarism and piracy! Twisting it to your specific desires and kinkification!" and sadly you'd hit it so hard on the nose you could probably pull good old Disney's Robin Hood off the shelf and point at it and then point at the eyes, headshape, mouth, and anatomy of the character's and be right. This might be a hot-take but a lot of artists both new and old could really benefit from this tool. Unlike Boromir from Lord of the Rings this IS a gift. Corporations like Disney, WB, and a hundred other studios have been using these tools for years. It's time we accepted that and understood that it can be used to fight back. No one's saying "Put down your tablets and pens" but "Add this to your toolkit". If you can't while time marches forward you'll find yourself trying to outpace those that do and they will lead you to burnout far sooner than you'll ever imagine.
FA+
Relax, it's ok. I have seen the black and white line art and I've seen the rendering process.