14" x 17" graphite (Finished piece will be color pencil and hopefully watercolor)
Been working on this the last couple days. I used various photo refs for the wings but no refs for the body. I need a fresh set of eyes to let me know what's off. The head and hands will be adjusted as I go. Body and wings?
I had fun with the bird in Queen/Leopard and I have a winged tigress I need to do for someone later this year so I thought I'd try wings once again to try and improve.
There will be a second character in this piece eventually. She will be a standard orange tigress.
Been working on this the last couple days. I used various photo refs for the wings but no refs for the body. I need a fresh set of eyes to let me know what's off. The head and hands will be adjusted as I go. Body and wings?
I had fun with the bird in Queen/Leopard and I have a winged tigress I need to do for someone later this year so I thought I'd try wings once again to try and improve.
There will be a second character in this piece eventually. She will be a standard orange tigress.
Category All / All
Species Tiger
Size 981 x 1043px
File Size 322.2 kB
oh, dear! * Blush * http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10687362/ Winged Tigress is my fursona .. Feral Tigress is my character,http://tigresadaina.deviantart.com/art/Daina-Ref-321994083 if you want it you're free to draw draw whatever you want:
Although, both of her arms are the same length, they are too long, but for two different reasons. For her right arm the issue is the length of the bicep, you will need to shorten that a bit. For her left arm it is the forearm that is to long, you'll just need to move the wrist back some. The right breast also seemed a bit strange to me. Like gravity was not quite right on it. Breast naturally sag down and outwards; from the angle she is at, her right side lower than the left, it seems to me that the right breast would fall further outwards a bit more with the slight tilt. I made a quick redline of these points, if you wish to look at it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/grgktud1g.....ka_redline.png
Otherwise I think it looks really good. Can't wait to see want you do with it next.
Otherwise I think it looks really good. Can't wait to see want you do with it next.
Thank you so much!! The arms had been giving me fits and I had worked with the lengths quite a bit already but they still were bothering me. Didn't know what else to do though. And I always have problems with breasts appearing to hang naturally. Your advice will be taken gladly!
Again, thank you!
Again, thank you!
I have to agree with Dekeve on the arm lengths. The right one, anatomically, also seems a bit forced into the pose. There isn't much bend in the elbow to indicate a relaxed gesture, as you're intending with the rest of the flow. By shortening the arm and bending the elbow in the other direction, slightly, it won't look as awkward.
The chest, specifically the right, anatomical breast isn't quite receptive to gravity, as also mentioned. It should be hanging more to the outside, closer to the arm, which will round out the appearance of the torso.
The chest, specifically the right, anatomical breast isn't quite receptive to gravity, as also mentioned. It should be hanging more to the outside, closer to the arm, which will round out the appearance of the torso.
I am far from ready to color this piece and have done a lot of refining to the body and head and am much more satisfied with it thanks to the critique from some of the others. The only thing I have done to the wings is put a bit more bend in the one on the left. I am definitely not happy with them yet but they are as good as I have been able to get them after a massive amount of redraw. Any help with the wings would be greatly appreciated!
There is also one more character in the picture that she is interacting with. And over the last week, I've spent more time writing a story to go with it than drawing.I didn't mean it to be a story, it just happened. :P
There is also one more character in the picture that she is interacting with. And over the last week, I've spent more time writing a story to go with it than drawing.I didn't mean it to be a story, it just happened. :P
When the story just happens, you know you've got a good idea for a drawing :P
About the wings. I assume you tried to make her left wing (our right) bend inwards to the viewer, but something about the angle is a bit off. When something comes closer to us, it gets bigger and more defined, yet the wing that is closest to us seems even smaller than the one that's further away. On top of that, the wings connect somewhat strangely to the body; the wing to our left (her right) ends very far from her body compared to the other, which makes it look like the body is viewed in a different perspective than the wings. I think both problems can be solved with a single adjustment; if you make the wing to our right (her left) bigger and tilt it inwards, you'll solve your perspective problem and immediately place the body of your tigress in the middle of the two wings, which would restore balance.
I made a very quick little Edit to it to illustrate what I mean. I only tinkered with the wings a little;
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vrfj4k8w4.....064%20edit.jpg
About the wings. I assume you tried to make her left wing (our right) bend inwards to the viewer, but something about the angle is a bit off. When something comes closer to us, it gets bigger and more defined, yet the wing that is closest to us seems even smaller than the one that's further away. On top of that, the wings connect somewhat strangely to the body; the wing to our left (her right) ends very far from her body compared to the other, which makes it look like the body is viewed in a different perspective than the wings. I think both problems can be solved with a single adjustment; if you make the wing to our right (her left) bigger and tilt it inwards, you'll solve your perspective problem and immediately place the body of your tigress in the middle of the two wings, which would restore balance.
I made a very quick little Edit to it to illustrate what I mean. I only tinkered with the wings a little;
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vrfj4k8w4.....064%20edit.jpg
Wow! Such an amazing difference! Now with a comparison, I can see what had been bothering me that I couldn't put my finger on.Thank you, this will help me so much with future wings. Much of what I know about drawing has come from critique and advice such as this. I think this change really saved the piece. I will repost a revised sketch soon with the other character. This is going to be a large piece and the coloring a labor of love.
Thank you so much <3
Thank you so much <3
I'm glad I could be of some help! I must say, you take critique very well, trying to learn from everything people say, even if it means you'll have to redo the sketch. I know many people who do not take kindly to criticizing words, but that makes you look that much more professional in comparison. I look forward to seeing the colors on this one! Good luck with it.
I have always encouraged critique and have never once had my feelings hurt. Sometimes I choose to leave elements of a sketch that had been commented on untouched, but more ofter than not
I will make changes, seeing the problem now that it was pointed out. I can usually tell that there is a problem with an area but sometimes can't put my finger on the exact problem. With this sketch, I was hoping for critique that pointed out problems and got many helpful comments.
At work today, I realized why I was having trouble with the wing perspective. I used photo refs of eagles in flight which obviously were taken at quite some distance which wouldn't show much of any perspective, then tried to use them on a relatively close up character. Again WOW! your wing modification really gave her depth.
Thank you one more time!
I will make changes, seeing the problem now that it was pointed out. I can usually tell that there is a problem with an area but sometimes can't put my finger on the exact problem. With this sketch, I was hoping for critique that pointed out problems and got many helpful comments.
At work today, I realized why I was having trouble with the wing perspective. I used photo refs of eagles in flight which obviously were taken at quite some distance which wouldn't show much of any perspective, then tried to use them on a relatively close up character. Again WOW! your wing modification really gave her depth.
Thank you one more time!
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