That knowing, guilty look. Aw...

I think it is more a "she not exactly on the right page" look.

More like "Not the right chapter" or "Not the right book" or perhaps even "Not the right library".

I don't even think she using the right media at this point.

She is using Linix, and they're using Windows sort of not the right media....

LOL

Or not the right dimension.

*Puts on a suit and tie*

"You open a door, and enter a world so much unlike your own. You're afraid you may never be able to get back. You've entered, the Catholic Zone."

*Twilight Zone Music plays on a church organ*

...I kinda want to hear that music now.

Me too, Bandit, me too.

its like putting a Sega Saturn game disc inside of a Playstation 2. Not the right generation of console, not the right console period.

here comes the first brick

Yeah, it's as I thought. She thinks that Adrian just slept around and got pregnant as a result.

Wow shes a presumptuous bible tart if I ever saw one and Im speaking as a religious guy whos had the dubious pleasure of meeting more than a few.

I like that "with a history", definitely a pretty good euphemism for implying someone sleeps around a lot ;)

"Lost Souls". They really don't know how condescending they sound, don't they? Who wants to be a part of that?

A number of those who perceive themselves already on the lowest rung (or superior to everyone else) make themselves feel better / justify their 'position' by pushing other people into the dirt / describing them as lower people ... if they are people at all.

oh dear....

"We don't have a day care that could help you, but we have a group were you can talk about your situation and confess all your problems!"

NOPE NOPE NOPE!

Its funny she is so full of sunshine that she does not even realize how she is coming across.

I reeally don't like how she said "Women with a history"

but who cares? It's a new page!

Am I the only one who finds her statement of 'We're not the judging kind' to be just a tad hypocritical? Specially with what she says/implies immediately after?

hat is, unfortunately, a standard sorta tick with Christians of that sort. They want to believe there not the judging kind, cause they wnt to believe there better then that, yet have already judged you, as shown here.

You can't avoid to judge people. That's why, regardless of religion, a good person is not one that doesn't judge you, but the one who acts as if he/she didn't.

I agree, I was stating that this is how I've come across the most in this particular neck of religion, with almost word for word delivery. "We're not the judging type. But we've already made judgment that you're in the wrong/have done wrong and need our help or whatever."

*softly blushes * sounds kinda like my otter, dunkleosteus hybrid girl Sasha, she kinda sleeps around

We (at least I) don't know her backstory, for all we know she's either a widow or her ex ran off with some other woman.

I always imagined her ex was not a good person, too, but that she chose to leave him.
Or maybe she had to run away from him.

An otter with a history is still a perfectly good, usable otter.

Don't let the naysayers history shame you :D

True

Roo wants OUT. I've never seen someone more uncomfortable in long time. Like she's 10 seconds from just bounding out the door.

I'm just glad this is not me. I've put five across the eyes, if you know what I mean, to a few Christians that have pulled stuff like this.

I agree she looks like she's ready to bolt out of their like cum out of cock

its officle, I dont like that lady

Which lady?

the bear

Oh ok

Why is that woman still breathing?

Bunners

Because nobody deserves to die just because of their beliefs.

Having beliefs is like having a penis.
"Oh you have one? Good for you. But if you wave it in my face, we're going to have words."

Bunners

lol Atheists just keep these condescending quotes in a little notepad document on their desktop looking to pick a fight with anyone who even hints at christianity so they can drop a ctrl+V on them.

It's not like she's being mean or malicious.

sounds good

The hard talk comes out! I hope the group all just hang in there and listen through.

History happens when a particular society has a habit of eschewing pants.

That ... actually is a very curious observation. Most reasons nudity is tabooed because of its implicit sexuality. But with a society that eschews pants, I wonder if that means nudity (or half nudity?) lacks sexual connotations.

Hahahaha. Oh religious people...

Well... this is a very painful situation. >.>'

I can feel the awkwardness, it flows through me! XD

I know a family like this like on the other side of town like this. I feel the same gesture. Like They're very nice and al but they seem too happy for me
Happy people make me feel uncomfortable like they're hiding their true selves behind religion. she's so cute and clueless though

Something tells me Adrian actually considered going to the church for help, hence why she asked if the church had a daycare.

Awkward.

Regardless of the situation, Adrian is so cute

Singles support but no day care? That's not very supportive.

wow... douche

yeaaa, thats gonna be a complication XP

Her church might not be the judgmental type bus she sure is. I wonder if her husband will step in before she dig herself into a deeper hole.

I can just tell this won't go over well.

Say No, Say No, DEAR GOD SAY NO -w-

Yo dawg, I heard you like church so I got you some church so you can church while your churching.

I've met people who always bring up church in almost every sentence when they speak. It's... Scary.

Yeah , thats my grandparents. Also alot of furs on here in those uber christian groups are usually , "God, god, Jesus, bless you, etc"

Ohhhh snap...:3
Always love the detail on your artwork.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I guess I'm not seeing why she's getting all the hate for offering some help. But I'm not really sure what a "singles support group" really entails.

Its the way she said it, as well as the bit before about helping "women with a history". She's coming off as very judgemental (especially for one who just said they don't) and is making some huge assumptions without even asking for any clarification on Adrian's situation

A singles support group is some sort of dating service?

Nooot exactly

It's a group that's for single people that's generally based off the assumption "being single is a problem that needs resolving". Especially for women, that means "how to catch a man", ie how to make yourself dateable (and in this case, to proper christian men)

That's even creepier than what I was previously assuming.

Hopefully Au. I saw so many *breakable* things in their living space!

I believe he was referring to the old quote "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

I know that. What I attempted, and apparently spectacularly failed at, was humor.

I see, I thought that might be the case but it was hard to tell. It night also be that the subject matter does not put many in a joking mood. I have been in this exact same situation before and it's incredibly uncomfortable. Reading this is bringing back memories, some recent, which have left me slightly less receptive to humor.

That being said I do admit that throwing rocks, while possibly causing future problems, would be a very satisfying short term reaction. XD

Believe me, I understand. A friend and I were not such great friends after he tried to get me to join his church.

Again, my attempt at humor apparently spectacularly failed.

My brother's a Catholic Priest. I'm not completely ignorant of this stuff.

I'm just going to say it. This bear lady is not being mean. She's not being malicious. She's not even trying to be judgmental. If she's guilty of anything it's being too chipperly clueless and socially awkward because of it.

The comments condemning her I just don't get, because she's not so much frowned an eyebrow at either of them this whole time. She's been nothing but nice to this point. She's just clueless and it could be say due to nothing more than a lack of experience with other people, since it doesn't seem like she really gets out much from what we've seen so far. People like that can easily be taught and shown their error in thinking IF you don't have someone with a knee jerk reaction ready to pounce due to some perceived slight.

I totally agree with this comment. She is making insensitive comments, sure, but most sane and reasonable people if you tell them that what they are saying is hurtful they tend to correct themselves. She might just be clueless as to how she's coming off. If however they try to mention it to her and is unapologetic and continues her insensitive comments that is when she needs to be called out for her behavior. Everybody is eager to leap to conclusions in this situation but I am still willing to give the Christian family the benefit of the doubt for now.

They gay!

I was enjoying the series and all... but I'm kind of sad that the Christians are being thrown under the bus, or seem to be being set up to be. Should be used to it considering that Christians are universally loathed in most furry-related art and stories. Ah well, gotta toughen up my feelers, I guess.

I _am_ a Christian. I'm writing this from a perspective of a place I came from, where Christians are automatically Right and everyone else is suspect. I wrote this initially to disabuse myself of that notion, that I should automatically view someone suspiciously because they're a different religion, agnostic or atheist. It isn't right and it's definitely not healthy.

My initial draft was a little mean to Eliza, though after I started, I decided I would try to be fair rather than go for cheap shots.

Thank you for responding to me, first of all, and let me say that I definitely didn't presume to tell anyone what they are and are not. I certainly wouldn't like it if someone said I wasn't a Christian, so naturally I didn't want to do that to you either.

Second of all, I'm sorry that I let my interpretation of things interfere with what I was reading and end up with me being a bit unfair. I didn't fully understand the angle that you were going for, and as a result I kind of... assumed the worst, I suppose. I suppose part of that is that crowds we've been around are pretty different, right? I mean, in the groups I've been in, it's pretty much the default to consider that Christians are the worst people in the entire universe and that literally everyone should talk down to them like they're children, which, as you can imagine I'm sure, grew exceptionally tiring and insulting. (Had one guy tell me that atheists are more inherently moral people because they can make up their own minds about what's right and wrong, for example.) Furry sites especially felt as though they were trying to do an awful lot of seal clubbing with a lot of comics portraying Christians as being utterly insufferable. Again, I shouldn't have let that perspective leak into your work, which isn't fair as it's separate from others'.

There was also the fatal mistake of daring to read comments, some of which are, well... kind of "a lot" if you know what I mean.

Anyhow, I made this way too long, as I doubt you're too interested in the motives of the mistake of some random guy on the internet. Suffice to say I hope you'll accept my apology for jumping to conclusions and perhaps being a bit too abrasive on the first post, and that hopefully I won't make myself look like a jerk if we ever interact again.