Awwwww... the feels.

agreed wonder how it will end

All. The. Feels. ;=;

The Feels

Your icon at the time of this post is the exact scene he is talking about lol

I think they know that.

The original gif was calles "Freedom" :'P

after watching the movie twice, hearing about the original story and then seeing this gif I had no choice but to use this as an avatar.

where you sacastes that avatar

http://lassenby.tumblr.com/post/140.....s-dis-were-cum

thank you

Lol, this is all from the discarded zootopia story, beat for beat ;)

sounds like a good original story. I like how she takes the collar off and he breaks down.

Yeah but Disney abandoned it because it was too dark and the world they made couldn't be redeemed because of how deep the racism/speciesism was.

Yeah, you don't want your audience hating the world at the beginning.

Its a shame. the original plot from what I am hearing sounds very compelling. But the intended target audience [kids] meant they had to tone the story down. And even with that the final product was nice.

Zootopia in the film is portrayed as a utopia with imperfections, but hearing the original plot devices with the predators being controlled with shock collars paints it as more of a tyranical dystopia. Why would any predator live in such a horrid place?

Yeah they had to tone it down, but also how can you fix a super species-ist society in one movie? I think they realized they but off more than they could chew, they could change long engrained fears and prejudices overnight. It would be like slaves being freed and then turning around and moving in next to their old masters, literally. No long standing hatred, fear or anything, just doesn't work, even in a Disney movie ;)

Gah typos, well you get the idea ;)

They decided to go for a tolerance/race relations message with the film. But just like the real world its not always nice on the inside! As the final part of the plot reveals with the villain. We can speculate all day though as to what that is without coming up with actual answers unless the creators give input.

But even then I don't agree with everything the creators say. There is a discussion on what predators on Zootopia eat. the general consensus is they eat fish and poultry. But the writer posted on twitter that they eat a combination of plant protein and bugs?? I very much doubt that. Also never mind the fact that a fish shop is actually shown in the movie.


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Why would you doubt that? Originally they included fish but they backtracked since they felt it confused the rules of the world. After the movie came out they flipped back again and now they say that yes they do eat fish too. I missed it personally but there are even bug burger wrappers or something as litter at some point in the movie. The technology they possess in the movie is as good as ours. I'd actually argue it's a bit better than ours (they consulted scientists about the weather control machines but that's way beyond anything we have), but it's still approximately around our level. It's been a long time since we've had meat substitutes in the real world; and that includes for felines. They actually add artificially synthesized taurine to cat food, and the ability to do so has existed for a very long time.

I don't think they've decided if only mammals are sentient in the Zootopia world. They decided insects and fish are not at this point. With such a city of millions though and the way they specifically reference mammals however I'd be surprised if they introduce intelligent birds or reptiles etc. at this point. It would have to be a hyper segregated world with some pretty terrible international relations for that to happen.

Poultry (and reptiles etc.) however was never part of any consensus, even if they were indecisive about fish. The directors answered this question many months ago on Twitter (and probably other places).

I have doubt because, again, using the real world as a parallel, people are skeptical about such things. Yes there is such as thing as artificial lab grown meat, but you have to ask questions. Is it safe to eat? has enough tests been done to determine safety? Would the general populace actually eat it or be too grossed out by it for it to become common place?

Ditto for the bugs. I just don't see the general populace embracing it. The UN is trying to push bug based protein [cricket powder and other such things] on civilized nations as a way to reduce beef farming and consumption and the reaction that that was an expected utter disgust from everyone who had heard of that proposal. I would see bug eating as more a minority new agey type people consuming those things like in the real world

Given they seem to have nature control systems to control the enviroment I am willing to buy that MAYBE artificial meat has been studied enough to be deemed safe, but that still doesn't eliminate the gross factor of eating bugs. =]

Synthesized taurine when it comes to felines isn't artificial meat. Also there's no question about safety when it comes to stuff made out of plants.

Keep in mind as far they've said thus far all mammals are sentient in Zootopia's world. That's not a comparison you can make to the real world.

That said, they did backtrack on the fish comment which makes that moot. They don't eat poultry though.

It's too late to edit, but I mean beyond toxicity and such when it comes to the plant matter.

probably financial reasons. perhaps initially when thep lace was first being made, they were welcomed openly as there was a need for workers, then the racism began to surface, but with predators being exposed, perhaps, to a wage gap and kept poor, they couldn't leave, as transportation costs would be too high potentially, then their pays are kept low to keep them poor and trapped in the slummier conditions, unable to break out, given less effective education too to augment the whole mess, and before you know it, boom. Trapped in the dystopia with no way out.

I feel that had *the movie villain had their way...trying to not do spoilers here* that would have come to pass. Clearly some in Zootopia have a deep hatred for predator species, ingrained from generations of being hunted by them.

Maybe that original Zootopia is an alternate universe where Judy and Nick had not solved the case. =]

If all things are possible in our universe/other dimensions there very well would be a world exactly like zootopia ;)

You never know. =]

I love that they put that much thought into it. That's what separates the movie from being "just another talking animal movie." There may be some issues they were unsure of but they took their world seriously when they built it, and I love that. I also love that they outright called it an alternate universe, to the point they speculated the city may exist somewhere around where South Africa is in the real world (but the countries as we know them do not have parallels in Zootopia's world).

When creators put very noticeable thought into creating a WORLD and not just a movie set, you can really begin to appreciate all their hard work. The world of Zootopia is a well thought out place with all the little details, both spoken and unspoken. =] I wish there would be more supplemental materials released aside from the art book to expand on it and give more insights on the surrounding lands.

I am sure outside Zootopia City and Bunnyburrow, there are much more towns and interesting places to explore.

There is a travel guide but I haven't read it.

It wasn't because of kids. (Disney targets everyone; it's other people that keep calling them kids' movies.) They have one outright dirty joke in the movie and at least one other that can be taken that way, as well.

They didn't want people to hate the world. They also found Nick's character to be too sad, and they felt that wasted some of Jason Bateman's skills. They also couldn't justify Judy growing up in such a horrible society. It made her far less likable that she'd have gone along with it to the point of becoming a police officer.

In the end it worked better with a more naive Judy than originally planned being introduced to the more dark complexities of the city along with the audience. In fact I'd argue the final plot is less accessible to kids than the original idea because clear good/bad guys are a lot more simple than the complex social dynamics going on in the final movie.

As to the last part of your comment, it's not like they would have much of a choice. I get the impression 'prey' pretty much ran the world in the original story.

I think there are neat elements and I love this comic here; I just think the final result is a lot more mature due to its complexities vs. the obvious bad guys of the original concept.

I strongly suspect that the Disney execs that gave the greenlight to the original storyline were either asleep or just weren't paying attention when the story was being pitched originally:

Disney exec on phone while getting a cab to catch a flight to the next international Disney shareholder meeting: "Yeah, bunnies and foxes. Got ya. Themes of racism and so on, sure, sure. Influenced by the old Robin Hood. Alright you sold me. You've got 2 years to make something of it. Alright? Good? Ok, Bye."

John Lasseter was fully aware of what they were doing I'm sure. I don't know if the approval goes a step beyond him or not, but considering the success of Pixar and the renewed success of Disney animation after he was put in charge, they probably trust his judgement.

And of course someone mistakes my post for something serious. Sucks to be you.

Apparently this post warranted a block and very rude reply. Well, that was a very bizarre exchange, but life goes on.

There is a discarded Zootopia story?

Yup. This is it.

in the original version.
Nick is the main character, an like all of the predator species, has to wear a "Taming collar" that keeps them from acting on there predatory instincts.
Nick runs an underground (illegal?) predator only amusement park. Who is framed for some crime.
Nick then escapes from the jail, an Judy chases after him..
In one version she dies when they fall off a waterfall, in another version she gets killed, ground-up, in a fish chumming machine, that Nick was trying to use to chop the handcuffs chains off with. (yes it got THAT dark!)

The film was 4 years in production, an 17 months ago they it had gotten so bad they figured that Nick would just escape from the city and leave it to go down in flames.
So they switched the main character to Judy, an redid the movie through her eyes.

Oh my god that is extremely dark for disney what were they thinking?!

They got caught up in the realism, an created a death spiral of events they couldn't recover from.
In the original movie predator species made up only 10% of the population.
So even when freed from the collars, there would still be resentment about having to wear them in the first place.
An then they would still be in the vast minority in society.

With the new version they seem to have gone off into the relam of complete fantasy.
Predators and prey get along side by side, but don't explain how that happened.
In the original the predators still ate the prey.
Now they eat plants an bugs?!! With on again, off again, on again reports that they also get to eat fish. Still doesn't seem to be enough food for the predators, nor having the nutritional requirements they, especially the felines.
They are going to have an soyent green awakening, because they must be rendering herbivores into food when they die to support the predator population.
Then we get to what are the herbivores eating? Zootopia seems to be a huge metropolitan city surrounded on three sides by water.
They will need thousands of acres of farm lands to support this city some where close.

Seems like they should of asked us furries how to make the world because apparently lots of people are asking these same questions. Also I'm a feline and I like my meat lmao.

They have the answers. Just because people don't understand them or know them doesn't mean they aren't adequately thought out.

Edit: I'm not sure if this reply is appearing correctly. It's in response to darkwraith.

Yeah I also thought of that. Some animals cannot eat plants, much less digest them. Ferrets being a good example where some plant solids don't digest properly and get lodged in their intestines. They need to eat meat, it's just how they are made. But like I posted above I think the bug stuff isn't ALL they eat. The movie shows a fish market in tundra town in the scene where judy passes by in the train.

Also if you use the real world as a reference where people eat people, cannibalism exists. Who is to say there isn't a black market for meat in or outside Zootopia? Societies unfortunates "vanishing" never to be seen again, and ending up on a rich tiger's dinner plate. =]

That's interesting about ferrets and I admit I didn't know that, but in the context of the movie their technology is long past the point they could deal with that. I didn't think about insulin problems with fruits etc.

They were painting themselves into a corner barring fish I agree. Do they show a fish market or is it a location with fish in the name? I seem to recall the latter.

As to the black market I'm sure cannibalism exists but it's likely viewed in the same way as we view the likes of Jeffery Dahmer. Evolved predators haven't eaten evolved prey for many thousands of years as of the time of the movie. In other words, their world is just as messed up as our human world so there would be occasional psychopaths. Organized selling of the meat of sentient animals isn't something I'd expect to exist though.

The nutritional requirements you are thinking of are only stuff spouted off by people who have no idea what they are talking about (often paired with completely fabricated "common sense" about how vegetarians don't get the 'nutrition' they 'need'). There are no magical "requirements" for meat, aside from certain instances like with felines as you mentioned (and taurine is very easily synthesized, and their backtracking on fish fixes that problem anyway).

Do you have a source about predators eating prey in the original? The answer to that is simple: they are evolved to approximately the same level as humans. It's an entirely different scenario in that kind of situation. It's not at all akin to real animals.

Did you actually see the movie I have to ask, because Judy grew up on a farm. Zootopia is one city, not the entire world. Also, predators are still only 10% of the population but the social dynamics are more complicated than only predator vs. prey.

Your "they get along side by side" thing is another comment that makes me wonder if you saw the movie? The world presented is a complicated messy place. They live side by side but it's no utopia. Judy growing up imagining the city being as you are portraying it is an important plot point.

I mean no offense, but by the logic of your comment about Zootopia being surrounded by water New York City or especially Singapore would be impossible too.

What discarded story? Source? Link?

I don't know if there is a definitive link. Do a Google search for "Zootopia original plot" and read some of the articles.

There's quite a few links. Mostly these:

http://www.matthiaslechner.com/zootopia.html (art from the original)
http://www.slashfilm.com/zootopia-message/
http://www.slashfilm.com/zootopia-d.....ors-interview/

The original movie was a lot darker. The Art of Zootopia book (which is worth buying, so everyone go buy it!) tells a lot of it in the unused characters like Honey who was a conspiracy theorist honey badger.

She became the doctor working with Lionheart to try and find out why the predators went savage.

The problem is, Honey Badger don't give a ________.

You can see some of the artwork for it here, http://www.matthiaslechner.com/zootopia.html

Feels so emotional.

Outstanding.

Just like the sky cars. ;w;

This is coming along great for only five pages so far :D can't wait to read the rest <3

This went an interesting direction from before and I really like the pacing. Not sure why Judy is biting her hand like that but I'll guess she's just surprised at Nick saying he felt broken by the act. Great last panel the tears drying on his fur are a really nice touch. i'll enjoy seeing the next page.

What I gathered about Judy is that she's emotionally responsive--several times in the movie you see her put her hand to her chest when she feels touched, this is the same kind of thing

that's a really good point and something I'll need to look out for next time I watch the movie.

thank you for making these so much :3

Having just seen the movie today, this is hitting me right in the feels.

It just gets better and better every page.

Poor Nick! :'(

I am thoroughly enjoying this comic. Please keep it coming.

I love how emotional Nick is getting over a dream, it just shows how much of a softy he really is.

I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not cryiiiinnnnnggggg

what ever he broke, I hope it wasn't wind...

I'm kinda curious about that, what did he mean by "broke" I think some people use that to describe when a house animal pees in the house.

Actually, it probably means he cried. Like he is now. Poor guy.

Yeah thats the most likely case, but judy's reaction seems to imply it's something more drastic, so who knows!

"Goofus" cute

I appreciate how your creating your own story from the few scattered fragments and pieces of concept art in the art book.

Oh Nick you poor thing. It was just a dream my friend.

Ohh, that took a wonderful turn! It's all great again!

Oh my qwq its so good

Good job summing up the unused plot.

I actually would like to use the Nick as a wanted man premise for a sequel with Judy having to chase him as a junior detective who is determined to find him first as a safe guarantee he gets proper justice and a fair chance to prove his guolt or innocence. But he joined ZPD a little too soon so it's a little hard to do now.

Acuallly... the old plot can still be used. Nick gets framed for a crime and despite being in the zpd, he gets hunted since the evidence pointed towards him. Judy despite having some doubts and feeling betrayed, relunctantly assists and leads the hunt against nick as a type of friend vs friend who feels betrayed and wants to know why he did said crime. since the evidence looks completely solid against nick, Judy has a duty to do and nick cant seek help from hisclosest friend. The collar can be added in due to result of said crime or as a requirement for prisoners to wear. See? Not that hard to pick it up.

No. Leave Nick out of the ZPD until the sequel and have him show up to Judy saying, "I need your help." "What did you do?" "Why does everyone ask me that!? Some people did something bad and now some other bad people think I did it and so they're after me now." "Did you do it?" "Why does everyone keep asking me THAT!!!??" He goes missing to find a way to clear his name, meanwhile the ZPD start labeling him Suspect Number 1 and the likely perp and so Judy, realizing that Nick really needed her, and knowing him better than other people, sets out to catch him first before bigotry or prejudicial malice get in the way of Due Process. The plot this time will focus on Nick as was the plan and cater more to exploring the world -which everyone wants- as Nick guides the audience through life of a predator, like him, and Judy has to wrestle with maintaining the lessons she learned about stereotypes since she doesn't quite know if Nick really is innocent for 75% but also believes she's at fault for not giving his problem the attention needed when he first came to her. THEN, he could join the ZPD and the third one could be the story of them dealing with inter-species/class unions for all the shippers.

Having Nick in the ZPD just removes the still lingering doubt about Nick's character and requires some accusations requiring Internal Affairs over police corruption. It would have been particularly nice to have Judy visit Mrs. Wilde and have her go through Nick's things to find the Ranger costume and learn that Nick was telling the truth about his backstory causing Judy to completely affirm her beliefs that Nick is good/innocent and she definitely needs to be the one to get to him first for his own protection.

I got something in my eye... TEARS! ;.; *All the hugs for Rick*

Man this comic is great. I like how you used the collar theme from the old plot. I've only seen glimpses in the art books for it. Great frame work in each page too.

Classic idea of a story telling a story.

Love the story thsts progressing here.

Course it makes me wonder, is there a Nick in the dystopian universe dreaming about the movie universe?

Huh. Zootopia-ception!

This is too much for me!

I just have something in my eyes! >_<

stop! stop making me feel things

Oh my...it hurts in the feels! T_T
Stellar job capturing the emotions here thus far!

Awwwwwwww.

The art of this comic continues to impress. Adjusts to the film's designs just right while retaining your own signature style. And, having the seen the film three times now, I can safely say you've got the characters and their voices down perfect. Nick's expression in the final panel, with the tears, just hits me right in the chest. Ow.

Wow... this is amazing! I love it so far!

I read recently that the story team previewed the plot and found the audience didn't respond well to Nick but they loved Judy, even a hard-boiled Judy.

So they retrenched and made it Judy's story instead of Nick's and lightened up the dystopian aspect.

Both are good stories. You've done an excellent job, Rick.

Though my logical brain assumes this isn't any romantic feelings, I love how the comic is leading my heart on the very razor's edge about how this might be platonic 'I appreciate you' feelings or 'I didn't know I felt so attached to you that way' blooming from Nick. :3 And whatever way it ends, I'll be happy about it.

It's so weird to think this actually almost happened as a movie. The original plot may be darker, but I think the final plot is more mature with its social complexities.

This is quite a cute comic. I love the casual ring tone thing. I could totally see Nick doing that.

Teh feelz...

Lovely.

man if they originally were gonna go with this or the other plots with judy dying it woulda been a lion king times 100 man it woulda been cool to see disney take that kinda risk but Im very happy with what we got all the same but man death off water fall or fish grinding machine holy crap disney you scary! XD

LOOOOOVE this comic so far as I love all your comics

also THOSE FEEEEEL poor Nick dun cry! *huggles*

Loving this comic so far :)

Firstly, nicely done! I am enjoying it so far. I am enjoying the art style and how you draw the characters. Love the orginal script tie in.

One thing is bothering me though. I feel like there was a panel or something missing between pages 4 and 5. In 3rd to last panel in page 4, it sounded like Nick was going to mention what happened to Judy after they fell from the waterfall. But then on the next page he jumps straight to into talking about waking up in bunnyburrow.

Did I misinterpret that?

How many parts are there

Man I wish someone else had made this movie. It sounds more interesting as the original script.

So excellent, am loving this

I wonder how end

My comment will be soooo original:

D'AAAAAWWWWW

I love how Judy's ears go back. She's empathizing so hard right now. I think she wants to hug him through the phone.

A very amazing comic so far!

Jesus christ Rick.

Waiting to see the rest.

So much feelings.

The What Could Have Been out of this would've be a very dark plot for Disney to go ahead, don't ya think?

And yes, I read the movie's TV Tropes page after seeing the movie myself yesterday. :)

Rough Spanish translation:

Recuerdo despertar en Bunnyburrow. O al menos como me imagino Bunnyburrow para que parezca. ¿Todavía vive en agujeros.

No voy a responder eso!

Me desperté rodeado de su familia, y usted-- con todo el mundo sorprendido de que yo era tan suave. Usted ha dicho que te había rescatado.

Por lo que me llevó a su habitación ... y que se quitó el cuello.

Y yo estaba tan aliviado, creo que ... se rompió.

Me pareció extraño me sentí tan agradecido hacia una versión imaginaria de usted.

Entonces recordé que hay un verdadero tú.

Nick, grandes Goofus sentamental ...

I realized just how detailed you got on this comic after i watched this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKCA_LDOLGo
panel one has an example of a species(racist) stereotype that the movie has so many examples of itself

You wrote this comic so well it would easily fit into the canon of the movie

Haha ^^ Sentimental gofus :3

for me as a non natural english speaker it was not easy to understand" i think i broke" and the following one.. even with people which are really good in english, it was not easy :D but I think i got it now.. I hope :D but could some english speaking person tell it with other words which are a little bit easyer to understand? :) would be great

I love that her nightgown is just a T-shirt that comes down to her ankles.

this is the best romantic, emotional Zootopia Fanart Comic I've ever seen, and I'll ever seen!
The art and characters are just on point