i dont mind the words, but it is a lot of truth to what is said though

and sometimes, truth can teach

You said it.

It works well like this

A bit... expositional.

So much truth in this page

np star it makes sence to put this in the comic i think... also when did lurs frend get a wardrobe change coulda swore she was in blue with stripes

nvm scrach that last bit

Last page bottom panel. Lures friend is missing stripes :L

true but thats a minor detail i think idk wear i got the blue from though

There is a lot of truth in that one

You explain things well in this page not that this is exactly the "Ageplay Primer" in a easy to understand way and what is in someways more important your dialog and drawing continues to show signs of improvement. A* for Star

While not succinct, sometimes a loada words just helps put everyone on the same page....so to speak. So no worries there Star :3

BDSM do they wear diapers too?

In some areas it's not uncommon but I think everyone's different so I guess the answer boils down to each individual and what they're partaking in at the time

what is the BDSM I don't think I ever hear of them if it a real thing

I would say Google it but you might be in for an eyefull...Err it means bondage/sado-masicism. It's sort of a collective name where a whole heap of kinks are filed under it. So things like being tied up or spanked or pain play or pet play the daddydom/littlegirl scenario is under this...There's just faaar too many to list really...And stuff I'm still learning about myself so it's quite a large encompassing umbrella

I half expect to see SSC and RACK explained soon

SSC (Safe, sane and consensual) is applied for Things "100%" safe in BDSM
a "SOFT" spanking, Waxplay done with caution and other things

RACK (Risk Aware consensual Kink) is applied for things that can have a Risk (physical, psychological or social) that all involved know and Agree with the risk
for exemple a Fisting, a hard Spanking, public exposition

There's also PRICK now. :)

Never heard of that one.

*searches*

ah, I see.

It's a newer one floating around. :) Some people like it because it's more flexible than the others and emphases personal responsibility.

I would say it covers a range of any role play dynamic that involves a dom and a sub. Which, star is right, that covers a wide range of kinks, which can include diapers. So I've heard, primarily as a form of bondage and control, and also humiliation. Tykables actually makes a diaper specifically for this type of role play I believe; they're meant to look like latex/leather. That would probably fall under the DL side of AB/DL

BDSM is an acronym for six things. Bondage and Domination, Dominant and Submissive, and Sadism and Masochism. It's really B&D/D&S/S&M, but BDSM covers it.

Actually, it's Bondage and Discipline. Domination is covered by the D&S part. :)

five outta six. that's better than two outta three, and a song was written about that.

There is much wisdom in these words.

Now mush up a burger
mush it good!

Cute and wonderfully drawn, as always Star!

using the comic as a mouthpiece for your views on kinks I see

The comic has always been written like that. It's drawing on past experiences of mine. Not saying my views are correct and certainly not saying my views are the only views to have. Not even in the slightest. But stars words and reactions are very much how I would react and what I would say in these situations.

well y'know that not every ABDL likes BDSM, right? and many want nothing at all to do with the community? I'm not fond of the idea that they're somehow intrinsically linked

I understand that not every ABDL wants a spanking or to be punished or put in furniture/outfits that restricts their movement or even wants to be submissive to a caretaker figure. Yep I get that. Like I said everyone is different.

then perhaps you shouldn't imply that the ABDL and BDSM communities are one and the same just because you happen to be a member of both of them

I'm not a member of both of them. I'm an ageplayer that's it. Here in the UK local bdsm munches and gathering have different areas so you could go to one and be into petplay or medical play or ageplay or a whole heap of different things. The bdsm community here encompasses a whole heap of different things. And bdsm isn't just about pain and submission. I never said they were the same thing I said at munches ageplayer could go there and that there were cross overs for some people as different people are into different things.

lol sorry nah I don't want to be associated with people who fetishize abuse just because I like diapers

Ultimately this comic is never going to please everyone. There are gonna be scenes that really will divide my fanbase and whilst that's sad and I obviously don't want to upset or annoy anyone that's probably going to be unlikely. I'm sorry you have such a dim/badly informed view of the bdsm community but there's a lot lot more to it than you seem to have summerised. But yeah I'm never gonna please everyone :)

I'm not ignorant to it, I've just seen enough friends hurt and abused by BDSM kinksters to know how unhealthy it is and what kind of behaviour it encourages

Sorry your friends had bad experiences. Truthfully if I had based my entire perception of ageplay on the first people I had met and even on some of the folk I've met since I would have run a mile too.

I think whilst it's infuriating to see someone basically write off an entire community because of some bad experiences it's also important to ask why.
I too have a lot of friends from all sorts of kinks and quirks. I love them and I'm super oober blessed to have the friends I do even if I'm not into the same things they are I was just curious why this person felt the way they did.

Well truthfully I'm not calm but I do think it's important to contemplate answers before writing them. So I guess maybe I come across as calm when in fact I'm just as aghast as you are. But I'm fairly sure they're trolling now. I think the kinkshaming kink argument is just being played as a get out of jail free card to being a twit and isn't acceptable here.

Also aghast is an awesome word and so is twit. I need to use those more LOL have hugs okay. Sorry things got a bit hairy there.

*hugs star* I dont care what anyone else says about it. the comic is actually teaching me more about the different lifestyles and seeing it through your eyes at the same time.

Its ok. not the first time we have dealt with trolls. lol. your comics are amazing and it is true that both the BDSM and ABDL communities arent really looked upon with a positive image. alot of times they are looked at with a negative aspect. but also the ABDL community have a better understanding of one another and that is how they differ.

I got the trolling-vibe pretty early, but some of it inspired some legit discussion, here.

But Furst (Freudian?): For the record, if kink-shaming is his/her kink, then there's a question of consent, and I don't think any of us agreed upon a safeword nor to being involved in his/her kink.

Aside from that,
Great discussion...
This is one of the hurdles with this particular kink... some people are into it for purely innocent reasons, some are into it for dominance/submission on the level of whips and slaves, and everything inbetween. Some are into it for sex and some just want to color pictures or find someone nurturing . But... It's pretty easy for a group of folk whipping each other in one room to ignore the coloring-kiddos in the other, but it's much harder for those coloring or seeking nurturing to ignore the cracking of whips and yells, or folks coming out of that room with welts and blood.. or even just the moans and thumping.
It's great that there are open-minded groups, open to all kinks, but it's also completely reasonable that some people's limits would be pushed by groups like those, and that may be the exact opposite of what they're seeking. Sometimes group-environments, even those "aimed" at some *aspect of* some "kink" aren't the right thing for those who share those aspects of that kink. And... I think it's reasonable that being "open-minded" to something doesn't have to mean one wants to surround oneself by it, nor involve oneself in it. Or, plausibly, there are some who might even be into the whips/blood aspect, but not in a public-setting... Just like the majority of vanilla folks (allegedly) enjoy having sex, they don't do-so in large quantities at a dance, or a library.
We had a munch-group of about a dozen people that fell apart due largely to these sorts of things, and it was an ageplay-specific group!
A couple couples brought their whips and when others tried to explain that they found it triggering, the whips/chains folks got all offended just like this, claiming kinkshaming, etc... Another couple couples brought weed, but some people were not OK with that, despite its being legal here, and then the weed-folks got up in arms about their legal rights being trampled. And so it crumbled.
And the irony!
I've little doubt part of the reason so many folk are into ageplay in the first place is that it gives everyone the opportunity to interact at a much more common level... simple things, coloring, movies, simple treats that most people can relate on. So, then, does it make sense to take that, in a *group-setting* to an extreme like whips/chains or drugs? Or even maid-slaves? It depends on each person's needs/goals, I guess. And, unless the rules of the group are clearly laid-out in advance, expect anything, including dungeons!
So, I think it's a good thing you put this page up, might even be worthwhile to have another!

I love being able to debate and discuss stuff like this because everyone has their own unique view on the situations involved. truthfully as a general rule the various sides of ageplay dont tend to really mix, you have the sorta sexual side of things having events and you have the non sexual side having events, but this mansion is big enough for the two not to really clash.
At this event (with the excpetion of star) everyone knows the people running the party and have been to the parties before so the folk who didnt get along have already been weeded out, but i could imagine if a number of folk came into this situation blindly, how horribly wrong it could go

:)
Well, I think we get quite an exposure to all sides here in the comments and, of course, in the comic. You're an inspiration to many, and despite being a little-one, handle these discussions and the topics better than most "grown-ups" ;)
But enough adulting, go play little-Star!
The next two scenes are utterly adorable, as is the whole series. If I was Star, I think I'd've fallen in love with Manda long ago and might never be able to adult again!

Oh, wanted to say, too... please don't allow my (nor anyone's) ramblings to direct the path of your comic!

This is Your "time to Shine" (I just had to find a use for the pun) ;) and you're excelling at it.

And FWIW, I've no doubt you'll handle well anything you might want to put to pen even if the topic might squick out a few folk like me ;)

And I watched my parents' "normal" marriage fracture into animosity and divorce. Meanwhile, of the two kink couples I've known for over ten years, one was a happy couple for over 25 years, until death did they part not too long ago, and the other have been happily married for almost as long as that. Both longer and happier than my parents' marriage. I've seen more people I care about hurt by "normal" relationships than kink relationships.

So how about we not base our opinions on anecdotes?

sorry pal but kinkshaming is my kink so you're not allowed to criticise it because every kink is valid and equal

why won't you accept my kinkshaming kink as acceptable and valid? what makes BDSM an okay kink and not kinkshaming?

Let's not continue to feed the trolls, when they're not interested in being reasonable.

I'm fairly certain you're just trolling now. There's always space here for proper debate and discussion but now I think we are done here.

That's kinda like saying your sexuality is shaming other people's sexuality. I mean by all means explain how kinkshaming is a kink because we're not getting how it's anything but paradoxical.

Why is BDSM any worse than any other kink? You have some kink artwork in your favorites too. How would you feel if people judged you for having those?

Saying "kinkshaming is my kink" sounds like your trolling.

But say you aren't. Say it's a sub-part of an humiliation kink or something. That still wouldn't be okay in this context. BDSM, and kink in general, relies heavily on the idea of consent. You can not involve others in your kink without their consent. You wanna kinkshame someone though some sort of private messaging system when you've arranged earlier that both parties are consenting and okay with it? Sure, have fun! But with random people? Nope, not okay. That's where the line is draw, with consent.

You aren't a Kinkister, you're just an Abuser level Troll. (in my opinion) Like key point of any healthy kink. Consent... Your kink-shaming is both non-consensual & factually untrue. You are being intolerant and the Paradox of Tolerance means one must not tolerate those who act in such non-con ways.

Pretending for a second that you weren't trolling and actually did have a kink for kinkshaming: By kinkshaming people who did not consent to it, you're involving unwilling participants. Remember, mutual consent is a huge part of this sort of thing, and doubly so in the bdsm scene. You're basically being the very thing you're complaining about.

BDSM isn't about abuse. For one thing, many people into BDSM are not into the sadomasochism or humiliation parts.

For those that are, it's not abuse. There's some pretty big differences and most kinksters are willing to help explain that to the curious. The main difference is consent. The people involved talk about their boundaries, their limits, what they want and what they are okay with. A lot of the time, they come up with a "safe word" to be able to end or pause it if needed (which can be used anyone involved). And they check in with each other.

The difference between a BDSM scene (or play) is the idea of consent and that there is mutual respect for each other.

Here are two easy images that help simplify abuse vs BDSM:

http://mycounsellingservice.com.au/.....dsmVSabuse.png

http://mycounsellingservice.com.au/.....016/05/1-1.png

Unfortunately, BDSM relies on a relationship (either romantic or just friends) and like all relationships, abuse is a potential. And some people will try to disguise their abuse as BDSM. This is very much wrong and a terrible thing. However, just because people incorrectly excuse their behavior, that doesn't mean BDSM in and of itself is abuse or encourages abusive behaviors.

Dear TaffyToo,
BDSM does not fetishize abuse, and I find that statement to be highly offensive. In an abusive relationship there is no such thing as a safe word. If you do not wish to be criticized due to preconceived ideas that are reinforced by media stereotypes, then do not do it to others. I happen to run a local BDSM group where I am a Domme, and I am also into ageplay where I am a Mommy to a very sweet baby girl. So yes, even in the U.S, the two can often overlap.

Something interesting about this comment chain... I myself have recently distanced myself from an AB/DL group on Second Life for reasons I won't get into here. I can't say they're doing anything wrong in their group for sure, but their stance on a particular topic isn't one I share. I haven't been public about said stance as it's far too complicated for me sort out myself. There may be crossover, and there may be points made by all sides involved, but the important thing is that I'm trying not to make a big fuss about my distancing because frankly it's not worth burning every bridge over it, especially if I make a discovery along the road that vindicates the group's stance that I feel uncomfortable with.

Oh, and that part about being an ambassador about kinks is rather true. I find some fetishes out there and watch it thinking it's the weirdest, but thinking nothing less of people who like it or even get turned on by it. I'm no longer so ignorant to think what I do isn't going to be looked upon as weird by nearly everyone else. But I see said fetishes displayed by people on their best behavior nonetheless.

Well, I'm still holding onto my theory on a strong connection between ABDLs and BDSM, so I say this speaks a lot of truth to me :3

Yeah, I think a lot of the same basic things that feed into one feed into the other.

My theory is that there's some sort of basic set of vaguely defined base desires (e.g. wanting to be helpless, wanting to dominate, wanting to take care of someone, etc.), and then mixing and matching them can create all the different kinds of fetishes.

Wow that one had an interesting depth in it. I like it ^-^ . I can't wait for the green room part, I hope it has naughty parts in it ^//^ . Keep up the great work Star its an amazing Comic.

"Some extreamist shows up that sets the scene back abit", unfourtunatley I can see myself in that extreamist, although bigot might be a more appropriate word. I have reacted poorley to things like this in the past. Being raised in a traditionalist, conservative family leaves a mark that one can never truly hide. It is still instinctual to react to new things with hostility & bigotry for me.
I try, I do try to get over it. But after 20 years of being raised a bigot it's not really something you brush away. All I can do is appologise to the people I offend & hope they understand.

Sorry for the long, depressing & unconstructive comment. I could just relate to the "extreamists" you were reffering to (much to my shame) & figured I should comment -.-

I wouldn't say that was depressing or unconstructive at all. Everyone can make mistakes admitting them and trying to fix the problem is actually a really positive thing to see.

Got the feeling I'd see you here. XD

You were raised with a narrow perspective on things, which wasn't your choice to make. But when given the opportunity to broaden your perspective and make more informed opinions, whatever they turn out to be, you did so, and that WAS your choice to make. Those are not the actions of an extremist, nor of a bigot.

Puppy. ;P

I....I don't know what you mean. Wh-why would you expect to see me here?

Thank you for your kind words sir. Thank you both. I do worry about how I come across. It makes me smile knowing that people are acknowledging my efforts to better myself.

A shiny gold star for Star!

all your comics are always so easy to relate to. Star being kinda new to the stuff and having thought that it was weird is very relatable to not just me id guess but alot of people

Yeah stars gonna put her foot in it several times I think. But she's on quite a steep learning curve so she's probably gonna make a mistake or two

nice

Love it!!!!!!!!! ^,..,^ XD

Trust me. For some this is needed to be said. Seems the only info on kink you hear on the news are fundamentalist preachers screaming about sin, or some idiot who involved kink and did something illegal with it.

Really like this page As always, excited to see more :3

this is the explain page.. no worries :3

This is just a good reminder to folks of the strides that have been made in recent years to mainstream ageplay within the BDSM community.
It's taken a long time and a lot of conversations to get where we are today, and there's still so much work to be done.
Also, good undercover message, "Don't kink shame... Be a good ambassador of your own kink..."

I will keep drawing...But you've mentioned story writing on your profile so yoo got to write. It's the law

Hehe, I never thought I'd be happy to see myself working a Grill again, but for an event like this, I'd do it gladly 😁

Ooohhh I'm excited for the next part!! X3

I appreciate that you're delvingoing into an ageplay comic the way real ageplay is done and had in the bdsm community. I love ithe when people like you are able to explain this so perfectly :)

Jesus, this is more of a PSA than a panel in the comic.

I dunno if that's a good or a bad thing

Por que no los dos? :P

I think that Star doesn't speak Spanish
(Creo que Star no habla español )

I was actually making reference to a meme. The origin was a TV commercial in which a family is arguing about if they're going to get hard shelled or soft shelled tacos for dinner, at which point a little girl says "por que no las dos?" (why not both?) like it's the most obvious thing in the world. The internet then generated a gif of the girl shrugging and asking the question, which is then frequently posted in response to an either/or question to the point generally just saying the phrase is enough.

I guess it's not as universally known as I thought though. /shrug

I got it. Made me

Ohhh... Well, I didn't catch it... But maybe it is because I don't live in the US or UK...

When the most mature person in the room is the one wearing a diaper and an outfit associated with a one-year old, the kinkshamers won't have a leg to stand on.

There is always a way to put someone down; the main thing is that it doesn't matter in the long run

Hahaha I remember going to my first bdsm munches I almost got thrown out cause I looked underage was wearing overalls and my hair in bunches. Luckily my husband knew the organisers really well so explained things and everyone was super nice to me a few folk thought I was wierd which I found quite funny considering some of the crazy stuff they were wearing haha

Heeeey where is the little "the more you know" star and rainbow :p

*chews yoo*

Silly kitten. Good thung unka zachy id used to baby.slobber

Well then... I've been a furry ambassador for years. Getting several people to visit this site at least once.

Sorry if some of those younger people ages 12-15 bother Star, but at least they're willing to explore art and such that makes them feel more accepted. I know I was lost at 13-16 until I found this place and other related places.

And this is how other people would conduct themselves to get along with the rest of the world if we lived in a world not centered on conflict, differences, bias, and discrimination.
(Unfortunately, the world outside our doors is not that, but we may only hope it does become better in the future)


Also, how can a deviating method or idea (age play, Etc.)be harmful?; does it incite murder? Burn cities to the ground? Topple governments and create anarchy? (Current evidence point to age play being benign and rarely violent; The only danger is blowing your mind)



/ I am not for any of the kinks, and I am not against it. I try to stay neutral and focus enjoyment on the art.\

Such pretty maids at the party. And such a lot of ageplay politics.

I know it's not particularly realistic but i keep hoping she runs into her room mate here and she's either a little or a big or in what ever way understands so that Starr doesn't have to be nervous about her little side anymore at home... Having special places to be open is nice... a place where you won't be judged and looked down on, but being able to be well and truly your self at home is precious as well...

If that happened, who would be looking after Fee?!? Poor puppy would be left all alone!!!

Since I have never attended an ageplay event, this gives me an inside look at the feelings and experiences of someone who has, even if the experience is somewhat 'inflated' for the purpose of the story. I dunno, Sam, on your first ageplay event did YOU take the green bottle?
As to the ageplay/BDSM interaction, I know of some crossover, but it's an individual thing. It's also not something I would be interested in, but if it's going on around me in an ageplay setting, it's fine.

No. I really didn't take the green bottle...For years I was very much just a yellow sticker girl.
There's quite a bit of crossover I think with various bits of ageplay like the main one I'd say is the whole submitting to a parental figure is clearly a powerplay dynamic. When you think about it you can almost dissect a lot of ageplay and file it into other areas. Spanking/punishment, restriction in things like highchairs mittens pacigags just lots of bits that can be used in other areas.

From what I've seen and heard I would agree with you. I'm not to sure about the adult/little aspect though, the power dynamic. I'm not looking to give up power, just have a living carer.

It's totally fair to try to get people to understand that ageplay is a wide spectrum, with people enjoying it for many different reasons. The problem I have is that sometimes trying to communicate that can seem like throwing another group under the bus to defend your own. It's like when PG furries try to express they're not all about murrsuits and porn by denigrating them, forgetting that there's nothing wrong with murrsuits and porn; the problem is people assuming that all furries are into those things.

It would help if I could get some clarification on what's meant by "extremists" in this context.

An extremist in an ageplay sense I guess would be the equivalent of those horror stories media folk play on where someone has assaulted children or raped someone and and when they do a police raided on the house it turns out the offender has a diaper fetish. Things like that CSI episode or the crazy dude on jerry Springer. Stuff like that just really helps those not into the scene form a really poor opinion of the whole group.

That clarifies it a bit, thank you.

To me at least, an extremist would be someone on the hard fringe of the kink, where the whips and messy diapers lie, rather than someone who is beyond the pale and the law.. Though, maybe I'm doing a No True Scotsman?

Damn it, Star, my brain hurts. Bad Star!

Those things aren't quite my cup of tea but done with consenting adults I think anything is fine so long as those involved are happy.

*Gives you an aspirin*

Okay, you're forgiven. :P

BDSM, the people who inflict pain for pleasure, needed convincing that the ABDL fetish is harmless?

Yes because quite a few folk not into ageplay still associate it with stuff to do with real children. We know that's not true but it just takes a bit of explaining and re-education to get that across to folk not into the kink

I guess but the same thing could be said about the BDSM fetish.

To periphrase Robin Williams, God rest his soul, BDSM judging ABDL is like a group of lepers judging a beauty contest.

Pretty much, though it is getting better. :)

It definitely happens in both directions, to ever-smaller degrees, thankfully. With groups like the Little Scouts popping up everywhere the fission between the Ageplay community and the larger BDSM community is gradually becoming a thing of the past, with noted exceptions.

Personally, I think that is a very, very good thing.

huh, never thought of it that way... others' thinking ABDLs involve real children is like their thinking that BDSMers are rapists, slave owners, and human-traffickers.

AAAAAH! Star is being so freaking adorable in this comic! o3o *flips table*

Also, thank you. This was very educational! A good explanation that more should be aware of, heh.
Very soothing for someone like me, who doesn't understand ageplay, BDSM and such, and is too intimidated by those sorts of things to explore.

something about the phrase "it took quite a while to convince the local BDSM scene our kink was harmless" got a legit giggle out of me.

I'm guessing it's either:

A. The fact that one would likely assume it'd be the other way around.

or

B. Someone as dominant as Manda talking about having to "convince" someone.

pretty much the first. That or the ADBL group is a notorious bunch of little scrapers.

True words

Hey I have a stupid question. Did I miss something or does star never have to go back to work? Where did the realism go? 8)

This is a Saturday? She doesn't have to work because Yuri took her shift

She has to go back to work on Monday yep yep

Hmm. I was just wondering if you were exploring the idea of her losing track of time and realising she had missed work. Looking back, only three days have passed during the entire duration of the comic. Kinda crazy considering how long you have been working on the comic.

Actually over a week has passed in the comic but on one of the pages (where she's in a euphoric state after Yuri agrees to take her weekend shift) the comic jumps to the weekend. But yeah sorry it's not a fast paced comic. But there will be returning to stars appartment and to stars work and even to her other family members. I want to show that folk who have kinks also have normal/boring/mundane lives a lot of the time so I haven't forgotten that aspect

Very nice and well scripted page. This is a very true thing. Grrat job on this one! ^^

FYI... I like BDSM and diapers. .///.

by the way you also should put that page on FL
it holds so much truth and wisdom

It's the whole story and pinnacle of the scene, all that truth.

Sure people are not going to understand it, and yes, there WILL be that stupid extremist who will come in and mess up all the peace. I do agree with Manda and Star on this. If we just be kind individuals and explain it in the right way, there will be peace in the subject.
"Do it the wrong way and everybody suffers". All self explanatory, heh. :)

well said there Star. But it is also a constant struggle everywhere within the BDSM community. It is easy for folks to get wrapped up in their own little world and set of values and forget what is around them. It may be a bit more of a PSA but it is a good PSA and the artwork in the background is nice and keeps the story flowing.

Nicely worded! ;) It's a fine skill for a writer to be able to put explanations in where it feels natural. It's a talent learned from experience. I know. I've seen folks writing for decades who don't know how/when to slip in explanation and put it in the wrong place. ;)

I think maybe in hindsight I should have made this at least two pages....But err it's kinda done now. I'll learn eventually

I don't know, I think it works like this. :)

I don't mind it explains a lot.

this page is a PSA announcement brought to you by the ever lovely Manda and her assistant Star. good job girls

I hope, she is total shocked by the "Show" in the Green-Room.
And will play with, after the Shock.

A "kink" event ^^; I would never be brave enough to go XD

I am proud of you for this page. This is a well-written, important page and you are a good Kitten. <3

*blushes an puffs up happily* Fankyoooo

Wow this page is so awesome. I'd love the share it when someone asks about Ageplay.

I'm lucky to live where the local community is so big and the general kink community so accepting.

I can see what you're saying, I'm not a fan of age play in any means but I am into BDSM.

This page is actually very important.. Mainly because I was one of those "BDSM" people who was quick to judge people in the ageplay scene. I used to have a pretty horrible opinion on it.

But bear with me.

I changed. I was shown into the scene by a friend and had it explained to me properly. Then I met Sammy and things changed a heck of a lot more. I think mostly I was already massively into the ageplay thing but a lot of it was denial in my mind because of the bad rep it had within my original community. I'm now happily in both the BDSM scene and ageplay scene.

Thanks for this page hun :) it's a fantastic one.

That why i will never express how much i wish that IRL. i have some horrible default and i really don't want the community to get another bad example for troll/media/hater to show off. and that also why i feel bad to use my Pony OC. i feel like i'm helping putting a bad label on other brony ... Life is SO hard

Star, you are amazing! I love how it is well written. It holds so much truth when it comes to the lifestyle. I do hope that more people will understand and te media will stop shaming it.

I am so blessed to have a gf that is patient with me when it comes to the lifestyle and friends who are littles and middles. <3 They have helped me learn that there are all different kinds of babygirls and babyboys. But there are neverending papas/daddies/mommies/caretakers.

I am ALWAYS learning. I still get shy and nervous but it is hard to find ABDL play parties where I am from. The Southern US isn't... too kind to it. :(

I agree I grew up in bdsm in short and know it well and this comic did it proud high five my fav page is the one where star is in the toy store and worried about being judged I keep it around as a motto now hugs tight

loved the new pages a lot! :)

Green room..... Green lid... Green..... GREEN LID! D:! GREEEN LID!!!!!!! D: AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! STAR!!!! LOOK OUT!

Wow, Manda is so super duper smart!

you should change the name of the comic to understanding abdl community

This is why I read this. This comic is a perfect way of portraying ageplay and how it impacts the world. Many can learn and understand better by reading Shine.

My local kink group LOVES the ageplayers.

Let me add this. They love us for the exact reasons in this comic.

i love this comic so much <3

You're a fabulous ambassador

*purrs* very very well said!!!

Not to open a can of worms, but who else thought the name Macgyver?

*giggles* You might as well have had them all turn to camera with a 'The More you know!' title scroll up on this one. That said, this is excellent, very grounded information about how things go on the scene. I appreciate it when people lace the realities in with their art/stories.

How could BDSM people have a problem with diapers. It's likethey were maid to help us in our longer bondage play. ....

I think this page flows really well, I particularly like Bob crossing the panel borders :P
Given that the comic is Star's journey into the ABDL world, exposition pages like this are expected and important for the story. A+, Squiggle

Super sad people have to troll just because they have a different opinion than you about BDSM. Every community has misconceptions and it's a bit hypocritical to judge them by those misconceptions when your own community has suffered from that same thing.

That said I really appreciate the cooperation of different kinks. I feel like it shouldn't matter what you're into as long as it's safe (to an extent of the person's desire). It's the same as judging someone for their taste in food, or sexuality -- and in this new age of internet and open ideas, having prejudices to such is just selfish. Just because you like it doesn't mean I have to.

Besides, you may discover more about yourself. A couple years ago I would have never imagined I would be into what I am now, and that's okay. It's helped me explore myself in a lot of different ways. c; So yeah! Educating people on other types of kinky communities is a good thing...because when it comes down to it we are all people! Mhm!

c: This is a lot of adult talk whew!
Let's get to FOOOOOD LOOK AT THAT FOOOD ;o;

You just explained this perfectly. I wish more people can understand it like this.

It's funny how much the Western world speaks about individualism, yet you're considered odd if you don't fit a stereotype. Like, what's up with that?

Le gasp! An expositional panel? With a saturday morning special message? The world is coming to an end!!!!

Actually, this really is needed to be said and understood. And wouldn't it be nice if kinks like this could cross over so seamlessly?

This is a good page though waiting for the milk to kick in

Exactly the right amount of words

And now Manda and Star with a PSA...

Wow this is getting really good now

Bob's neck must be sore at this point

is funs :)

It's pages like this is why I love this series. I've often wondered about the relation with age play and BDSM worlds as one would thing they go hand in hand. I mean you're locking someone into place for a period of time, nature would have to kick in eventually and a diaper would seem to be the perfect fix.

Keep it up Star!

It's a bit lengthy, but not sure how well it would have broken up into two or three pages. I think it works best like this, especially since such wordy pages do not happen often. :)

As for the actual statement, well said. :)

You have no idea how much I jump for joy when a new shine comic is out.

Babystar, I'm doing a documentary on bronies and this page of the comic really put into words of what I'm trying to say. Thank you so much!!

Still, amazing work star it's always nice to just pop over and read your comic

And there can never be enough explanation for things that some people will see as different and will need a certain someone to come along and explain a different view of the subject to have them understand.

Keep up your amazing work

really love this page i definitely went through the struggle that star did (as i think most ppl into ageplay do) and its just really having a comic like yours that shows a 'slice of life' viewpoint of it

Very important things were said on this page,

perfect, I think new people at munches and cons should be shown this.

Going to get blocked for this, but my weird sense of humor just kicked over...

The two furs in the lower left panel...

Fur in a pink onesie: "Is your sausage hot and spicy?"
Grill fur: - Slips spatula under patty - "When I get the meat between two warm buns, you bet it will be"

:Cue 70's porn soundtrack:

I love pages like this, you're so real about everything. ^v^

this page is well said. very well said :o

How do you find groups of abdl near you?

The comic has been great so far, I can't wait to see what happens next, thanks for your effort in making it.

Hi Star,

FYI, if you click the previous button, it takes you back to this strip. Thought you would want to know.

Love the comic, especially this one.

That last panel was spot on. I love this comic thank you for working hard. <3 You are awesome!

given the subject matter, they may not have been better an easier way to explain it, so I suppose a textdump ain't to bad

I'm kinda glad you had this explanation. I am always on my best behavior, but I DO represent the ABDL/Furry/Babyfur set of kinks in my group in my small city. So keeping good relations is important!

Hmm.. I have a mutual understanding for everything out there. i can participate in everything - only limitations is imagination and sometimes trouble with wording things that i have no idea about. (grammar).

i can only imagine what it'd actually be like to age play irl. Living the dream reading this book, but faced with the reality that I've not been accepted. I'm quite lost really. my heart desires it but I feel shunned before I even get a chance to root. Wish i had some friends I could express my feelings and age play with. It's always been an interest for me for the last 6 years.

I'm 29 this September. I'm part of the BDSM community. I'm flesible and am down for whatever there is to exist really. as long as it doesn't come to me loosing body parts like fingers and such owo

Well, happy age-play everyone. Glad to see so many people support this artist.

Words are fun, don’t feel you have to avoid them!!!

I wish Ageplay was more accepted...

You know, the first episode of Adult Swim's Mr. Pickles has an ABDL in it. I have never watched the show, but I've seen reviews of that episode from both TheMysteriousMrEnter and TV Trash, and it looked pretty creepy.

You know Dr. Diaper, the villain from the first Captain Underpants book? I have a theory that he was bullied so badly for being an ABDL that it caused him to turn evil.

I would think the relationship with the BDSM community would also be a little awkward since ABDL is more complex. BDSM is almost exclusively kinky while ABDL has a lot more 'clean' elements to it. I would think some people of the BDSM would just find it weird and want nothing to do with it.
ABDL is by far the fastest growing fetish around. It's another reason it's not so accepted since it's fairly new. Of course the concept has existed for a long time but it used to be fairly small until the millenial generation.

Abdl stuff has been around for generations it's more due to the fact that the internet is a thing that it's more prevalent. Most of my friends are in their 40s-50s and yeah there's a lot of them

Oops I didn't mean to do that. Sorry sorry I accidentally hid your comment but that wasn't on purpose it's cause I'm on my phone

I kind of want to see her interacting with one who has a begrudging acceptance now, maybe that flatmate of hers. That she accepts Star's fetish and won't abuse it but that she doesn't want to see a diaper near her. It's how it is for me with my parents. I still go there but they don't like the things I do. They love me enough that they accept it as long as they don't have to look at it.

I like the words. They really making me feel good things about my dead parents & feel that they were good parents.

I wish people in the lolita community would get this.

Oddly about a decade ago I tried to join the lolita community and I came up against such a wall of judgemental egotistical elitist very unwelcoming women that I very swiftly ran away

I must say this defently hits the nail on the head when it comes to kink

To be on a bit of a positive note, diaper only room/house parties or outdoor events, such as the Bar-B-Que about, are really quite great!