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Another song from the I ♠ the 80s bootleg CD 8)
Will I have anything to sell if I keep uploading everything I made the second I make it? Well, whatever :V
This song is intentionally supposed to sound like music off a sega genesis, yes.
Will I have anything to sell if I keep uploading everything I made the second I make it? Well, whatever :V
This song is intentionally supposed to sound like music off a sega genesis, yes.
Category Music / 80s
Species Unspecified / Any
Size 120 x 120px
File Size 5.67 MB
How was this accomplished? I briefly came across something recently about a .GYM/VGM composer that emulates the YM/z80 output of the genesis but didn't look much further into it... Supposedly there are a good number of people on the Sonic Retro forums ( http://forums.sonicretro.org/ ) who do music programming and have imported/composed their own music into different roms. This seemed like it might have some significance, as well: http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.....nd_Engine_List
I dumped data from YM2612 patches using a tool shiru wrote called "VGM2OPM", which converts all the patches in a VGM file to OPM format, readable by the VST "VOPM". VOPM is kinda buggy, it's an OP-M emulator btw, so I used SAPIhost to play the patches back as samples and fed them directly into my recording device. Then I tracked the song in Modplug Tracker using those samples.
For the saxophone sample, I used a patch from TF Music Maker.
Yes, there's a lot of tools available for making FM sounds now which don't require lots of old computer hardware lying around (or the need to make cables from scratch, which I don't like). I'm used to MPT, so I used MPT to make the song. Getting good FM samples was the only difficult part.
For the saxophone sample, I used a patch from TF Music Maker.
Yes, there's a lot of tools available for making FM sounds now which don't require lots of old computer hardware lying around (or the need to make cables from scratch, which I don't like). I'm used to MPT, so I used MPT to make the song. Getting good FM samples was the only difficult part.
btw I don't think the sound output of genesis was z80. There was a sound chip used called SN76489 (aka the 'PSG', portable sound generator), which had 3 square wave channels and one white noise channel. It was in there for SMS backwards-compatibility, iirc, and is kinda a unique sound which tips people off to the music sounding like a Genesis/MD rather than just being generic FM Synthesis. Check my submission "Enlil Song" for an idea of what a square wave sounds like coming out of the PSG.
no no, I think you're right as a matter of fact... I know the genny sound is YM/PSG, I just always thought the z80 did the 3 squares and white noise, but now that I think about it, I believe the z80 was the main CPU of the master system... im sure it provided some kind of purpose in megadrive mode, but when you used the power-base converter for SMS BC, the z80 would take over.
The SN chip sounds familiar now that you mention it too... it's been a LOOONG time since I did any work with this damn thing. I know what the PSG output sounds like... I used to get angry way back in the day when midis were popular (vs mp3), because i could never find midis from genesis games with the square channels; it's like some people just couldn't hear them :P
I've been doing some hobby work with the genesis recently, both audio and video mods, and when I was doing some testing on a Genesis 3, I managed to find the left and right YM outputs and the separate PSG outputs from the main asic chip.... I did a few recordings just for example, and when you hear the PSG on its own, it's kinda funny because it's actually defined rather than being quiet in the background of any regular music... sorry, bit of a tangent there.
The SN chip sounds familiar now that you mention it too... it's been a LOOONG time since I did any work with this damn thing. I know what the PSG output sounds like... I used to get angry way back in the day when midis were popular (vs mp3), because i could never find midis from genesis games with the square channels; it's like some people just couldn't hear them :P
I've been doing some hobby work with the genesis recently, both audio and video mods, and when I was doing some testing on a Genesis 3, I managed to find the left and right YM outputs and the separate PSG outputs from the main asic chip.... I did a few recordings just for example, and when you hear the PSG on its own, it's kinda funny because it's actually defined rather than being quiet in the background of any regular music... sorry, bit of a tangent there.
yeah, the PSG is almost unnoticeable most of the time unless it's being used to do a really nice super echoey square lead for "cheap". But it's just really nice sounding anyway, and mixing a YM with another sound chip really rounds it out and makes that awesome retro sound (for example, neogeo mvs had 3 psg's and the ability to play compressed PCM! best of all worlds, imho)
thanks! The technique I used made use of an OP-M emulator which I dumped the samples off of after programming in the patches, which were ripped from honest-to-god YM2612 patches. Therefore, it's basically an amalgamation of of YM sources individually sampled specifically for this song.
Since I'm no good at MIDI, I did it this way so I could write it in my native MOD format ¦3
Since I'm no good at MIDI, I did it this way so I could write it in my native MOD format ¦3
That's a hell of a process to go through, but it worked so flawlessly I thought that you seriously had this playing through a genesis at first! (although I think it might have a few too many audio tracks... I'm not sure though)
MOD stuff is really difficult. You must have some serious, serious skills to work with it so easily!
MOD stuff is really difficult. You must have some serious, serious skills to work with it so easily!
A long long time ago I had this one MOD tracker that I could port MIDI data into ... I don't recall it's name, but I remember that one being really intuitive. In truth, the only reason I use MIDI is because I can record it directly from my keyboard and play it live. >.> Piano roll is my weakness!
well, I think part of my problem is that I can't play anything live properly, so tracking's the way to go for me 8D
if it was a windows-based tracker then you're probably thinking of modplug tracker, which is what I've been using the past 11 years. Whew, can't believe it's been that long already x_x
if it was a windows-based tracker then you're probably thinking of modplug tracker, which is what I've been using the past 11 years. Whew, can't believe it's been that long already x_x
That one! That's the one! It let me port MIDIs into it and it was awesome! Back when I used it, I had found a few Genesis samples which I'd ported into it. I only have one song left over from then, and it only had the sample of the dude shouting "GO!" from Launchbase Zone in Sonic 3 (and I think the bass was Genny , too, maybe the drums. I should find that MP3) but it was pretty much the coolest thing I can remember doing with music!
Two hard drives later, I've lost all that 'cept the one MP3. xD But that program is great!! 11 years is a couple years longer then I've been using the MIDI program I use, but I can identify with stickin' with a program. If it ain't broke...
Two hard drives later, I've lost all that 'cept the one MP3. xD But that program is great!! 11 years is a couple years longer then I've been using the MIDI program I use, but I can identify with stickin' with a program. If it ain't broke...
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