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My neighbor came over with an old revolver of his dad's which didn't work anymore, he wanted to know if I could tune it up. Turns out it wasn't a Ruger, but a Rohm Mod. 63. So I stripped it, cleaned it, did a bit of touch-up work to the trigger and hammer, and it seems to be working about as well as you could expect it to. He won't be back until tomorrow, so I thought I'd touch up the nickel plating on it, too. It was a bit pitted and rough, and now it looks pretty nice, and it'll probably fire just about every time you pull the trigger now.
It was looking nice enough that I couldn't help but to get a picture with my Stoeger Coachgun. They're almost a matched pair.
It was looking nice enough that I couldn't help but to get a picture with my Stoeger Coachgun. They're almost a matched pair.
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It's not a great revolver. When he brought it to me, it wouldn't fire at all. Looking around on the internet reveals a lot of people who have some very unkind words for these revolvers. I loaded a few .38s with primers only, and it lit off every one pretty solidly, but I can't be sure it can do that reliably. The firing pin did hang up on one, too, not much to do about that. But if it can fire 90% of the time or better, I think I did pretty good.
Yeah, pretty much. It's really soft metal. His brother had tried taking the screw for the hammer out, and each time it slipped it left a pretty nasty gouge. Every internal part, other than the rod for the mainspring, is made of sheet metal. Someone else even went as far to say it's not even good enough metal to melt down for fishing weights.
Well, if you'd want to get .45 LC on the cheap, you could always get the Lee Classic loader. It's just dies you don't need a press for, you simply use a rubber hammer. It's not the best reloads, but they're certainly passable. Using a .223 kit, I was able to get my Savage down to MOA accuracy. For a round like the .45 LC, you should be able to do better than that using bulk cast bullets.
And yeah, their coach guns are nice, and their short O/Us are pretty nice, too. There's a new one they have, the Double Defender I think it was, a parkerized coach gun with rails top and bottom and the black hardwood stock. It's an interesting beast.
And yeah, their coach guns are nice, and their short O/Us are pretty nice, too. There's a new one they have, the Double Defender I think it was, a parkerized coach gun with rails top and bottom and the black hardwood stock. It's an interesting beast.
I have nearly everything I need for reloading all the rounds I currently use
I just need to learn how to reload them
Double Defender, I'll have to have a look. it's been a while since I went to the Stoeger website, I am being papercutted to death at work, so I do not have a lot of money to waste on frivolous things like guns, lots of guns...
I have a mossberg pump, but I've always wanted a sidebyside... And a Tommy-gun, but I don;t have $900 for a new semi-auto.
I just need to learn how to reload them
Double Defender, I'll have to have a look. it's been a while since I went to the Stoeger website, I am being papercutted to death at work, so I do not have a lot of money to waste on frivolous things like guns, lots of guns...
I have a mossberg pump, but I've always wanted a sidebyside... And a Tommy-gun, but I don;t have $900 for a new semi-auto.
Ah, I've been a member of AmmoGuide for years, now, and it has a wealth of information on reloading. The Lee "Modern Reloading - Second Edition" also contains a wealth of information, and some useful loads.
Sorry to hear about work, though, hopefully it gets better within four years.
When it comes down to it, though, a Mossberg 500 should be able of doing 95% of anything you need a shotgun for, and the other little bit would be useful only for fancy doubles, high-end automatics, or maybe specialized things like a rifled Savage 210F.
Sorry to hear about work, though, hopefully it gets better within four years.
When it comes down to it, though, a Mossberg 500 should be able of doing 95% of anything you need a shotgun for, and the other little bit would be useful only for fancy doubles, high-end automatics, or maybe specialized things like a rifled Savage 210F.
Fun. I have an 835 that, when I got it, had pretty rough wood on it, so I did a little work of my own, and it's a blond beauty now. Any stock for the 500 should fit it, though, since it's essentially a long action model of the same gun with a different magazine tube and barrel. The back of the receiver seems to be completely identical.
really? I was told off for suggesting that very same thing just a few weeks ago by some jerkweed on ebay seeing what he claimed was an 835 stock that "would not fit a mossberg 500"
if that is true (and will cost me some money to confirm) then my options for stocks on my 835 just opened up Quite a bit!
thanks, I needed to know that!
if that is true (and will cost me some money to confirm) then my options for stocks on my 835 just opened up Quite a bit!
thanks, I needed to know that!
I'm pretty sure I have pictures of that somewhere. Unfortunately, none of them are here, and they kinda suck, anyways.
Oh, to clarify, Mossberg pumps use two lengths of forend tubes, and that goes for even just the 500. If you're getting a new forend, you'll probably want to measure and make sure it's the correct length. If you get a long forend and have a short tube, I know Hogue makes an extended length nut for that.
Oh, to clarify, Mossberg pumps use two lengths of forend tubes, and that goes for even just the 500. If you're getting a new forend, you'll probably want to measure and make sure it's the correct length. If you get a long forend and have a short tube, I know Hogue makes an extended length nut for that.
I went ahead and just double checked it, my Butler Creek M500 stock fits on my 835 almost perfectly. It took a little fitting to comfortably mount on the 500, so this isn't really surprising to me. Because of the safety placement, though, I'd strongly recommend you stay away from top folding stocks. There's a company called Mako making a stock adapter which mimics the Mesa Tactical stock, though, if you'd want to stick an AR-15 stock on it.
Thanks. I'd like to get an O/U, too. What I'd really want is a 20 gauge O/U, as I've seen a few of them converted to fire .45-70, and I do like nice double rifles with fat cartridges. It'd be much more affordable to build and to shoot than just about every single other double rifle that any company currently offers.
I'd love an O/U myself. But the cheapest one I've seen at Gander is $600. x.x
Then there's the best ones that go for $1,400.00, also doesn't help they're Benelli's. But still, $1,400 would pay off more of my car. I'd rather do that than buy a single shotgun you know?
Then again if you can fart out $2,000.00 when ever you want it then I guess it doesn't matter.
Then there's the best ones that go for $1,400.00, also doesn't help they're Benelli's. But still, $1,400 would pay off more of my car. I'd rather do that than buy a single shotgun you know?
Then again if you can fart out $2,000.00 when ever you want it then I guess it doesn't matter.
I've been working on trying to fart out money, but it's not working nearly as well as I had hoped.
If it's a Gander you ought to be able to ask them to special order you a Stoeger. The one here will, every now and then, have about a dozen or so in a week or two, and they sell pretty quick. I believe that the Stoeger Condor Outback is available at an MSRP of $369 for blued steel and walnut finish, more for the dark hardwoods and nickel plated one, though. There's no cheap version of that, but it does come with an IC and MOD choke. If you wanted a full-sized O/U, their regular Field Grade Condor has an MSRP of $399. Gander should be charging less than that, but if not, you might be able to find another dealer who would be willing to order one for less. There's also the Remington Spartan line of shotguns, but I'm less familiar with those, but since they're rebranded Baikal firearms, the quality can be hit or miss.
If it's a Gander you ought to be able to ask them to special order you a Stoeger. The one here will, every now and then, have about a dozen or so in a week or two, and they sell pretty quick. I believe that the Stoeger Condor Outback is available at an MSRP of $369 for blued steel and walnut finish, more for the dark hardwoods and nickel plated one, though. There's no cheap version of that, but it does come with an IC and MOD choke. If you wanted a full-sized O/U, their regular Field Grade Condor has an MSRP of $399. Gander should be charging less than that, but if not, you might be able to find another dealer who would be willing to order one for less. There's also the Remington Spartan line of shotguns, but I'm less familiar with those, but since they're rebranded Baikal firearms, the quality can be hit or miss.
That Stoeger is a nice one. It has the "cowboy" look to it. But from what I've seen I think they only really have the Benelli's in stock, maybe the Remingtons. The cheap ones for those go for $900. Then again the metal sections of the gun look like some 60 year old engraver took a life time doing the frilly designs to it. For that price range they should have just made it out of gold.
Heh, that's certainly the truth. The Gander here has a pretty wide selection, all the way up to a Browning Citori with a $3,500 price tag on it. Part of the cost with high-end doubles is getting the barrels regulated properly, and the other is making them look like they cost too much; fine engraving, exotic wood, high gloss finishes, that sort of thing.
True. But when I go to our Gander it's usually a quick browse through everything since I can't afford anything on the shelves. So I don't notice if there's other brands of O/U. As for the $3,500 dollar shot gun. I don't care who makes it or how good it is, I would NEVER pay that much for a gun unless it was a Browning 1919 or something. At least with that you can shoot more than two bullets and it would be much more fun. But I'd get a used snowmobile or atv first before anything else like that.
It's a fun shotgun. Sort of a shame I didn't write more about it, as I spent some time working over a used Stoeger, smoothing out the action, and now it'll drop open smoothly, and the lever is openable with a thumb, where you had to really press before, and then pull the front down to get it open. I also disabled the automatic safety engagement, so it won't put itself on safe each time you open it.
The Stoeger probably is a good SBS shotgun.
The Röhm most definitely is a complete POS. I have never seen a Röhm that was not. If he wants to sell it do not buy it, the quality if them is imho the worst of ANY German brand manufacturer. That gun means troubles.
And trust me, even if you can get it for 50 bucks you will regret it later. Unless you do not fire it at all. The only German Single action revolvers I can recommend are the Sauer & Sohn`s. They usually are pretty good but hard to find. My personal favorite are the ultrarare Hämmerli ( no shit, the world famous competition pistol manufacturer made some ) Single Actions.
The Röhm most definitely is a complete POS. I have never seen a Röhm that was not. If he wants to sell it do not buy it, the quality if them is imho the worst of ANY German brand manufacturer. That gun means troubles.
And trust me, even if you can get it for 50 bucks you will regret it later. Unless you do not fire it at all. The only German Single action revolvers I can recommend are the Sauer & Sohn`s. They usually are pretty good but hard to find. My personal favorite are the ultrarare Hämmerli ( no shit, the world famous competition pistol manufacturer made some ) Single Actions.
Yeah, this revolver makes me a little nervous. There's certainly no precise fit between any part in there. But it's sort of a family keepsake of theirs, and it was a kind of interesting project to work on (I mean, it's an old revolver whose innards are made nearly entirely of stamped sheet metal).
This one is a double action revolver, though, despite it's looks. There's a little sheet-metal flap on the hammer that the trigger will engage to lift it almost to the point where it's cocked. That could be removed to convert it to a single action, but it's certainly not safe. The sear on the trigger seems somewhat backwards, and it doesn't take much weight, or much of a bump, or a light push on the hammer, and it'll drop.
Scary little guns, that's for sure.
This one is a double action revolver, though, despite it's looks. There's a little sheet-metal flap on the hammer that the trigger will engage to lift it almost to the point where it's cocked. That could be removed to convert it to a single action, but it's certainly not safe. The sear on the trigger seems somewhat backwards, and it doesn't take much weight, or much of a bump, or a light push on the hammer, and it'll drop.
Scary little guns, that's for sure.
The shotgun's just a Stoeger Deluxe that's had a bit of work done to it to smooth out the action. Like I said in an above post I spent some time smoothing out the action, and now it'll drop open smoothly, and the lever is openable with a thumb, where you had to really press before, and then pull the front down to get it open. I also disabled the automatic safety engagement, so it won't put itself on safe each time you open it.
For chipped stocks, as long as it's not splitting, I've seen people cut out the damaged portion of the stock, cut a piece of similar wood to match, glue it in, then use a file to smooth it down and profile it to the stock. Someone even hit it a few times with his keys to weather it in, make it look like it was an old arsenal repair. I think there's a video on YouTube for something like this. I can't find it, though, but it would be similar to this and this.
For chipped stocks, as long as it's not splitting, I've seen people cut out the damaged portion of the stock, cut a piece of similar wood to match, glue it in, then use a file to smooth it down and profile it to the stock. Someone even hit it a few times with his keys to weather it in, make it look like it was an old arsenal repair. I think there's a video on YouTube for something like this. I can't find it, though, but it would be similar to this and this.
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