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Summers Gone is a timeline-jumping inside look to Andy and Cooper's past together, pairing directly with volume 1 of The Internship which can be read here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20437011/
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Had been, for a couple pages now, but this one really brought to light the struggle Cooper's been through.
If it goes with a "slightly sunny" tone, dad's gonna tell his son something along the lines of "Still shouldn't be doin' that shit, boy".
If it stays realistic, dad'll say "Just be more covert about doing that stuff".
If it goes with a "slightly sunny" tone, dad's gonna tell his son something along the lines of "Still shouldn't be doin' that shit, boy".
If it stays realistic, dad'll say "Just be more covert about doing that stuff".
I wouldn't be surprised about the "toughening up" part, I guess... But he's clearly familiar with Andy, and if anyone would have their "gaydar" on, it would be the parent of the subject of those affections. Still, he doesn't seem to approve of Cooper always hassling him. So either he's just that clueless, (unlikely because this is clearly a pattern) or he's okay with (or at least not offended by) some other boy crushing on his son.
without context, Cooper's dad is parenting properly.
He's doing rather aggresively, yes, but his child just got in MAJOR trouble for doing something REALLY bad.
He also says that "Why do you keep picking on that child". Which implies that this is not the first time Cooper has done something mean to ye other doge.
He's doing rather aggresively, yes, but his child just got in MAJOR trouble for doing something REALLY bad.
He also says that "Why do you keep picking on that child". Which implies that this is not the first time Cooper has done something mean to ye other doge.
"All he did was put a bug on Andy"
All he did was put a bug, cause someone to tip over a canoon and possibly drown if Andy didn't know how to swim.
He put Andy's well being in danger.
Dude if my parents ever got a whiff that I had 'started a fight' or 'got involved with things' in primary school, especially on some kind of camp or school trip to the point where my parent would have to drive for like 2 hours just to fetch me. I would get slapped from here to Africa.
I'm aware that Cooper's dad, guessing, is probably on the extreme side. But as I said, without context, his child did a bad
All he did was put a bug, cause someone to tip over a canoon and possibly drown if Andy didn't know how to swim.
He put Andy's well being in danger.
Dude if my parents ever got a whiff that I had 'started a fight' or 'got involved with things' in primary school, especially on some kind of camp or school trip to the point where my parent would have to drive for like 2 hours just to fetch me. I would get slapped from here to Africa.
I'm aware that Cooper's dad, guessing, is probably on the extreme side. But as I said, without context, his child did a bad
I'm agreed with you. I never accepted the child beating as an educational tool but sometimes a fatherly bitchslap is can be good and usefool. My dad is not an agressive man we can always talking about my problems but i have a really troublesome teenhood ( because of my stepfather) and he give me just only 1 big slap into my face when i want to do a really big mistake and i never forget that slap in my entire life but thanks of that bitchslap i did not that thing and I'm grateful for that only 1 slap what I got from him.
But nowdays when a dad do this everyone sign up for he is an aggressive child beater and and everything that comes with it and coming the child protection too and all other crap things. So yeah Cooper's dad do it the right thing, Cooper whas do it a bad thing because he wanted to be cool but he fucked up!
But nowdays when a dad do this everyone sign up for he is an aggressive child beater and and everything that comes with it and coming the child protection too and all other crap things. So yeah Cooper's dad do it the right thing, Cooper whas do it a bad thing because he wanted to be cool but he fucked up!
Who said what Cooper did wasn't wrong? Not me. But if what your suggesting to me is that Cooper's actions warrant a corporal punishment, that--I'm telling you--is a position which holds a total and complete lack of sympathy from me. I don't think that hurting a child is an appropriate punishment and I don't think Cooper's misbehaviour fits that punishment. I had corporal punishment used on me all the time as a child and it did me no good so I'm speaking from my own experience.
Maybe you were hit as a child, too--and maybe you were fine with it: I was hit as a child, and I'm not. That's my position.
Maybe you were hit as a child, too--and maybe you were fine with it: I was hit as a child, and I'm not. That's my position.
My thought is that Cooper's dad may come down hard on Cooper for picking on Andy and this would kind of drive a severe barrier between them as adults. I mean, the first few pages of the comic show us a few major things between Coop and Andy.
First off, Coop still picks on Andy. This never stops. Second, Coop seems to just be either angry of jealous of Andy. The third thing is that they work in the same office.
I would suspect that Coop actually has a lot of feelings for Andy and keeps getting put in a position where negative interactions have taught Andy how to deal with his feelings very poorly. Seems like Coop is now following Andy around in his adulthood, possibly to try again and again to prove that he is better than Andy, but secret feelings all along could be the root.
Either way, I am excited to see more. :D
First off, Coop still picks on Andy. This never stops. Second, Coop seems to just be either angry of jealous of Andy. The third thing is that they work in the same office.
I would suspect that Coop actually has a lot of feelings for Andy and keeps getting put in a position where negative interactions have taught Andy how to deal with his feelings very poorly. Seems like Coop is now following Andy around in his adulthood, possibly to try again and again to prove that he is better than Andy, but secret feelings all along could be the root.
Either way, I am excited to see more. :D
I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb here and guess an arc of: Coopers dad is a bigit fundamentalist but also kind of in touch with reality. He doesn't really like or understand the the changes going on with society, but is aware that there is a different way of thinking that is emerging, and that he needs to tolerate it if nothing but to build some kind of better future for his son. Cooper's dad may even work for or alongside of Oleander.
But then again, I'm kind of an optimist.
But then again, I'm kind of an optimist.
The facial expression in response to li'l Coop's comment makes me think the dad will lecture 'em.
(Plus, who are we kiddin', this is a gay furry comic so of course the dad's gonna turn out bi/gay himself, lol)
In all seriousness, I adore this comic and it's the only one I keep up with. Super eager to see how it turns out!
(Plus, who are we kiddin', this is a gay furry comic so of course the dad's gonna turn out bi/gay himself, lol)
In all seriousness, I adore this comic and it's the only one I keep up with. Super eager to see how it turns out!
I have to vote yes, I mean, not only is this taking place in the past, before it became a bit more widely-accepted, we know how Cooper is in the future: He's still a dick to Andy, obviously has feelings for him that make him loathe himself. There's like a zero percent chance that isn't behavior beaten into him by his dad.
So abusive dad, likely gonna show himself as severely homophobic, bully friends, it's understandable when raised in such an environment that cooper (who seems to be at least a little gay himself) would grow into someone who bullies gays around. Like Helga did to Arnold even though she secretly loved him
I know I'll get flak, but I am finding Andrew increasingly unlikable and starting to think Cooper is the real hero.
In "the Internship," Andy and Boss Doggy's relationship is a clear case of nepotism. We're told that Andy is good at... whatever it is his job is, but we don't actually see him working much. And Boss Doggy makes it clear that this "totally isn't only about [Andy's] penis." Yeah, sure, you saw his penis and immediately personally informed him you were "interested" in "him" about an "internship."
In Page 2 of "Summers Gone" we find out that Andy and Cooper's mom are friends. Cooper says if he's "mean," but how mean could he really be? Andy is the one initiating an interaction. Cooper can't have beaten the crap out of him or Andy would probably want to stay away. It seems more likely that Andy is constantly pestering Cooper, hoping to hang with "the big dog," and Cooper gets increasingly annoyed about it. Andy comes off as more an entitled child whose mommy keeps telling him he deserves a friendship with Cooper.
Now in this panel, we find out Cooper's dad is physically abusive. What does that tell Cooper? "If you are bigger and stronger, you can physically rough up those smaller and weaker." If you brush off him grabbing the ear: walk up to your dog, grab him by the ear and pull him off his forepaws.
Andy just seems like an annoying brat who thinks he deserves the friendship while Cooper would just let him be if he would leave him alone.
In "the Internship," Andy and Boss Doggy's relationship is a clear case of nepotism. We're told that Andy is good at... whatever it is his job is, but we don't actually see him working much. And Boss Doggy makes it clear that this "totally isn't only about [Andy's] penis." Yeah, sure, you saw his penis and immediately personally informed him you were "interested" in "him" about an "internship."
In Page 2 of "Summers Gone" we find out that Andy and Cooper's mom are friends. Cooper says if he's "mean," but how mean could he really be? Andy is the one initiating an interaction. Cooper can't have beaten the crap out of him or Andy would probably want to stay away. It seems more likely that Andy is constantly pestering Cooper, hoping to hang with "the big dog," and Cooper gets increasingly annoyed about it. Andy comes off as more an entitled child whose mommy keeps telling him he deserves a friendship with Cooper.
Now in this panel, we find out Cooper's dad is physically abusive. What does that tell Cooper? "If you are bigger and stronger, you can physically rough up those smaller and weaker." If you brush off him grabbing the ear: walk up to your dog, grab him by the ear and pull him off his forepaws.
Andy just seems like an annoying brat who thinks he deserves the friendship while Cooper would just let him be if he would leave him alone.
I feel like there's way too many assumptions here. I commend you for taking a different stance on this issue, but at the same time I have to disagree with you. If you take what we know about the comic so far, when Andy asks Cooper to be with him, he doesn't really show great interest in being partners, but at the same doesn't really show disinterest. Cooper seems like the type who is easily influenced by those around him. Friends tell him to play pranks on someone, even though he doesn't want to at first, he gives in and ends up pulling the prank on him. Honestly by the way of him talking about not being mean to Andy, clearly he's played some pranks or done stupid things to him in the past.
Andy and Cooper are friends probably not by choice, but because their parents are friends. But the thing is, even if one party is a major asshole to the other, you can still stay friends. Not really the most healthy relationship, but it happens. I'm speaking from personal experience. Now this part is a major assumption based off of person experiences, but when you don't have that many friends in the first place, you tend to cling on to the ones that you do have, even if they are assholes to you 90% of the time, which could be the case for him. Regardless, though, its not uncommon for people to have that sort of "friendship."
The thing is, its doubtful he's just trying to "hang with the big dog." He knows him because of his parents, and regardless of the social statuses we had as we were younger, such as that, you had the odd friend combinations sometimes between two people who were really close who were from completely different "groups" or "cliques" because they were always together when they were younger, but stayed friends even though their interests changed when they got older. I would say that its possible that in this comic, if anything, Cooper is kind of getting tired of him and trying to break away from him.
But I still stand by my first opinion. Cooper at this age just seems to be a kid who is easily influenced by others. Unfortunately, Andy ends up being at the bad end of that because he seriously enjoys Cooper's company.
Andy and Cooper are friends probably not by choice, but because their parents are friends. But the thing is, even if one party is a major asshole to the other, you can still stay friends. Not really the most healthy relationship, but it happens. I'm speaking from personal experience. Now this part is a major assumption based off of person experiences, but when you don't have that many friends in the first place, you tend to cling on to the ones that you do have, even if they are assholes to you 90% of the time, which could be the case for him. Regardless, though, its not uncommon for people to have that sort of "friendship."
The thing is, its doubtful he's just trying to "hang with the big dog." He knows him because of his parents, and regardless of the social statuses we had as we were younger, such as that, you had the odd friend combinations sometimes between two people who were really close who were from completely different "groups" or "cliques" because they were always together when they were younger, but stayed friends even though their interests changed when they got older. I would say that its possible that in this comic, if anything, Cooper is kind of getting tired of him and trying to break away from him.
But I still stand by my first opinion. Cooper at this age just seems to be a kid who is easily influenced by others. Unfortunately, Andy ends up being at the bad end of that because he seriously enjoys Cooper's company.
Cooper doesn't even say "Hey, leave me alone." He pretends to be fine with whatever Andy wants, then essentially punishes Andy for assuming that he's being honest. Later in adulthood, he goes on to sexually assault Andy. And for some reason, you think all this makes Cooper some sort of hero?
Just, wow.
Just, wow.
I find it surprising at how many people are jumping to the whole "abusive dad" thing... We've only seen a couple panels of him so far, and people are hella quick to judge.
While sure, seems he's a hard-ass, I don't think a stern tone and reprimanding bad behavior = abusive.
Actual abuse would be the dad entering the camp with a calm demeanor to collect Cooper, and he'd appear pretty friendly to the other adults - outwardly any onlooker would think everything was all fine and dandy.
Then when dad is in the car with Li'l Coop and out of sight from the campgrounds, he'd pull over and... let's just say Cooper would wish all he got was an ear pullin'.
Maybe I'm wrong though, but given the dialog and the dad's reaction... I think he knows what's up. We've seen how susceptible Coop is to peer pressure with the slug thing, and the dad is most likely aware of this. I feel like he's going to have a lecture in store for li'l Coop.
also I can't believe I spent this much effort analyzing dialog and expressions from a furry comic, holy crap. this series is too good... ;~;
While sure, seems he's a hard-ass, I don't think a stern tone and reprimanding bad behavior = abusive.
Actual abuse would be the dad entering the camp with a calm demeanor to collect Cooper, and he'd appear pretty friendly to the other adults - outwardly any onlooker would think everything was all fine and dandy.
Then when dad is in the car with Li'l Coop and out of sight from the campgrounds, he'd pull over and... let's just say Cooper would wish all he got was an ear pullin'.
Maybe I'm wrong though, but given the dialog and the dad's reaction... I think he knows what's up. We've seen how susceptible Coop is to peer pressure with the slug thing, and the dad is most likely aware of this. I feel like he's going to have a lecture in store for li'l Coop.
also I can't believe I spent this much effort analyzing dialog and expressions from a furry comic, holy crap. this series is too good... ;~;
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