Tru.

Through and Through, gave it another go yersterday. Uninstalled.

geebus.

Overwatch is pretty bad, they don't seem too intent on fixing a lot of the frustrating issues for the game

but but but...ESPORTS!

ESPORTS R BAD, also don't think overwatch is fun to watch at all.

The Event will come back next year Daigo plus more loot crates you open and get duplicate item will turn in to in game cash which you save up and flat out buy the item, and i agree its kinda upsetting because i so wanted that Emote for orisa of the puppy but i Know next year ill get it, and the champion color skins well they are bit meh i don't buy them, and i play overwatch for at least a good year and i started to play it during the Halloween event, and Like you said its like tf2 soo sooner or later they will add a permanent game mode like Man vs Robots in tf2 sooner or later, pretty much there alls and up and down to there patches soo just wait and hope things improve, in fact mr Daigo instead of ranting about this why not send an email to the devs or support on suggest some improvements to Overwatch.

Sooner or later is not a good model to run on for your game. sooner or later the game will get better doesnt give me confidence. its been close to two years and most things they add are being locked away. I have crap luck and playing these events have given me nothing but sprays and voice lines.

the stuff dos unlock when the winter, halloween and the summer game events will unlock past skin and items but i agree with you there some skins are forever lock but who know all about wating for that golden day to come, my moto is this patience is it own reward~

First off with that intro, where can I smash that like button? I tease of course.

For me the game is mostly just the rare shooter that I'm actually good at, so as someone who more or less focuses himself to play the game because it's more or less the only one I can with some semblance of skill, I can understand a lot of your issues. It'd be awesome to have like, a singleplayer Overwatch game, instead of all the story being outside of the game.

The esports stuff at least, funds the teams too, but it is kind of silly. It's sad, I used to want to encourage all my friends to play the game too, but now it's not something I can do. But hey, there's plenty of other games in the sea! Cheers!

PLEASE LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE TO MY CHAN- Oop whoa...dont know what came over me there. XD

I like to think that I'm decent at the game too. That aside I'm glad you could understand my points. I always worry I'm broken or my points are confusing.

I already watch you, so, that counts right? :P

Yeah. Most of it made sense. A lot of the issues you have make sense and match my own concerns with the game. I love Overwatch, I really do. I bought a shirt with Moira's face on it for crying out loud. But...it's hard to play. Every game I go in, I get bitched at to play Mercy. The whole game revolving around Mercy now sucks a lot of the fun out. She rewards bad play. yeah though, the game really does need some big change to make it...fun again.

That kind of shit is why I gave up on Destiny 2. They did pretty much the same thing of lootboxes limited to a specific event with the Dawning.

Its all about that Loot BRO! Dont you know BRO? LOOT BRO!?

And now they seem extremely intent on killing mercy with all the dumb changes they're making. Honestly, I still greatly enjoy the game tho I'm getting frustrated by the things they do. Like, before Junkensteins Revenge and Uprising, Blizzard teased of a PvE mode where you could possibly upgrade your hero in-game as the waves progressed. There were even datamined voice files to support it. It sounded fun but that was almost 1.5 years ago and there's been absolutely no word on it. Instead of adding more gamemodes and longevity to the game we get..... E-sports.

Also still angry that they gave up on CTF so quickly despite the fix for it being so easy.

Thats true. I forgot about that. I remember hearing the voice clip of Winston "Time to spend those skill points" and people were excited. Then we got uprising that didnt deal with any related to that. What a bummer.

CTF was hilarious and could have been another fun mode to make for more maps. But...you know....whatever....

is there a single online game that hasint turned into a shit show?

Hmmmmm I cant think of any off the top of my head

destiny2, GTA5, NFS payback, pugb, there is more but those were on top of my head

Fffff I forgot about Players Unknown Battleground.

the unforgettable train-wreck ever

That's the thing about games like Overwatch, Tekken, LoL, and others like them. The devs and/or publishers only care about making the games appeal to esports. They have these little events and game modes that are fun, but take them away. Why? Probably because they want players to play the game mode(s) actually played in the esports scene. It's fun at first, but it becomes irritating or rage inducing after some time (especially in team based games). Making a game over-competitive or appeal largely to the esports scene can ruin a game. This is just my opinion.

Tekken Im not so sure of? they dont have event specific things that ive seen In game for certain things.

But yes, I agree with you. pushing esports can ruin a game entirely. Look at Marvel vs Capcom Infinite.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I have to say, I disagree with you on almost all points.

Except the League skins. That was just... no.

Hahaa fair enough! Which points in particular you think im wrong about for a quick run down? Not going to argue , I just like to know where we differ.

Eh, pretty much everything other than the thing about the League skins. The most egregious was the stuff about the seasonal skins and games. Personally, I'm glad they aren't available year-round. They wouldn't be nearly so special, if you had access all the time. Especially the maps. Yes, I love Junkenstein's Revenge. If I could play it every day of the year, however, I'd tire from it because it would become the usual. It's like with sodas. Back when you had to make a special trip to the local soda fountain to get one made for you by a soda jerk, they were this big, amazing, special thing. Nowadays? People buy them and chug them down by the 12-pack without a second thought. They're no longer special. Same principle applies.

I can see your point. though just to kinda pick at it a little bit. why would you keep playing it till you got bored? Because thats the other side of the coin. The only modes we have are facing other players ( and or shitty bots/AI) so then they put in something new to have fun. If you wanted the event to stay special then dont play it that much and you wont get tired of it. Im tired of playing PvP all the time. also whats to stop them from modifying said mode to make it special for said even but keeping the mode in general. Like say if they had something LIKE junkensteins revenge. it could be something like uprising and then when Halloween comes around its back to being Junkenstein, the event is still special but the game mode shouldnt be. It gives players more options to have fun rather than those people only playing that mode that time of year.

Awwww yeah! Stick it to em

WARF!!

Don't forget event related loot crates have ALL OTHER NORMAL ITEMS in their rng pool. So yay, the odds of getting that skin you want are astronomical. No one wants shitty sprays or icons, I'd rather make my own like freaken most shooters do, but gotta pad out those odds.

"It's just cosmetics." Is really a bad outlook on lootboxes, in my opinion. Overwatch is a prime example as I just noted. People want skins and the bragging rights that comes with rare items. Blizzard goes out of it's way to incentivize ANY form of customization to be purchased through the law of probability. They are just as predatory as EA, but it gets shrugged off as an 'option' decorated as much as possible to still make you WANT to have it.

And the League is just a fucking joke. Com and casual games are the same thing; Win/lose the choke point and game is over. It is not designed for E-sports in any sense. TF2 has better map design and weapon loadouts offer more interesting strategies. LoL has over a hundred champs and items making the same map still be interesting with thousands of ways you can make plays. Overwatch is smash brothers in a small stage...while listening to two hunks of wood make very cringe puns.

Yeah I have tons of issues with this game too. XD

Yeah I agree with you that "its just cosmetics" is a cop out. but its the least offensive way to a degree. I would much prefer if those legendary skins were behind accomplishments much like how the certain sprays were. they made you do something to actually have bragging rights. but nope! gotta bank on luck.

I actually thought with the introduction of Gold weapons they were gonna make new weapons and or load outs for characters. that way you could have a choice of play between a type of play. Like maybe zenyatta gets more heals for team but loses his discord orb to be a more defensive zen. You know... something interesting. but that hasn't happened.

Oh man, I was really wishing they'd go the alt weapons route too. They ripped off TF2 a lot already. XD D.Va with different weaponized mechs, or Reaper with uzi's would mix things up in a really fun way.

Pretty sure that won't happen because such items can't be monetized without HUGE fallout.

I missed your rants haha and all of this is so true im so glad I never got into Overwatch.

ah heheh glad you enjoy my rants. they are rare now.

Wait! You're name is pronounced Day-go?! I've been saying it like Dye-go, this whole time! ^^;

heheh i dont mind either way honestly. but yess its Day-go.

Well, I'm going to correct my mistake, just in case you do mind, someday! ^^

Do more rants. Honestly this is actually my first time hearing a rant from you and this is pretty interesting. We don't really get these kinds of things much and it's a nice change. So I'm probably in the minority that wants more of these but it counts.

may i suggest listening to my older rants ? I have a few of them hehe. they are all over the place though so keep that in mind.

I bought this game, what, last october and so far I get your point, it has a lot of really bad sides.

But to be honest, beside the loot boxes and event games bs (which I completely agree with you) I really enjoy it all, I sometimes play it with a group of friends, mostly on my own, it's super frustrating but I'm deeply invested in the lore of it. The characters are so rich and so lovely I can't stop myself.
But it might also be because I don't have any other games I'm actually really interested in.

Oh and for the league, it's not for everyone that's for sure, I'm honestly surprised that I'm interested to see how "pro players" do but that's basically all.

But hey, I hope you have a game that doesn't stress you out so much and that you enjoy a lot !

Thats fair too. this wasnt to knock on anyone liking the game. as ive said it plays well and has interesting cool characters . its well done. its just the practices that they are doing are hindering the experience and potential of the game. Im a picky gamer for sure and i bought this game when it released in the hopes it would improve. and i havent seen much improvement. only practice.

Its the kins if game i'll play two games of then forget about for a mobth or so.

sounds about right

The issue I usually have is it doesn't draw me in with the combat. Maybe it's just a sign of getting older? I dunno.

could be. im of the same mind somewhat

Truly the world is leaving us behind. I'll just stick to my books and my rampant violence.

I stopped playing because besides getting the skins I wanted, the core game changed way too much and I couldn't have fun when I wanted to play casual rando to try the changes out and the only people I got pitted against were trihards https://youtu.be/w_Mp5gE0HSw?t=3m40s

oh and they take the fun PvE modes away so that they stay "fresh" to hook you in to coming back to get them again. same with the skins, cept that'll only serve to make ppl duck out every time an event stops. They seem to want to centralize the main focus on their MLG demographic while luring players back in using events and exclusive stuff. it's trash imo.

the taking the PvE modes away frustrates me to no end.

I see a big problem here. You seem to play the game only to get the lootboxes and not to play the game. Focusing on farming boxes is the worst mindset to have (I have been there myself) as it just gives more frustration to the bad aspects of the game. Play with friends to have fun is the only right way to play OW (for me), plus that 20% EXP bonus is pretty nice too.

I think you have missed the point of event-loot. You are NEVER supposed to get EVERYTHING in an event, this way does it feel extra special to have those skins. Besides, you can get them the next event 3 times cheaper.

Alright, lost it when you complain about not being able to play non-multiplayer gamemodes like Junkinstin's Revenge in a game there is all about the multiplayer aspect... so I stopped to listen to the rest of the rant. I think you have just gotten the wrong game in your hands.

I think you missed the entire point of my rant. The idea that playing the game is fine and well but if I play a game, it has to give me a goal to actually you know...play the game? A game is supposed to give you goals and or other things to entertain you other than "just shoot other players". Its a reason why they make the events in the first place. because doing that alone gets stale. I play with friends and every time ive played it feels like a chore. I get little to no reward for actively playing this game. The point being they are adding things that makes the game more interesting and then ditch it or push it aside for what?

Also whats so special about getting event based loot via luck? oh wow, you played during the holiday and got lucky and got a holiday skin. and then waiting to get luck based content. I dont understand this logic. its only special because of timing? not to mention you cant even get the things you want. I got Mei's legendary christmas re color skin. I dont play Mei... SO SPECIAL. wow i got lucky

Im complaining that they are adding content to the game (that people like, stuff I LIKE) and removing it. And the fact that its not against other players. Uprising and Junkensteins revenge i can grab my friends and play something else that isnt so insufferably annoying than playing against other randos.

But hey if all get out of it is playing with your friends and having fun then more power to you. I agree with that statement because if you actually listened past that you would have heard me say how the game can be fun and its well made and if thats all you need then great. but I dont like being sold a product that felt like it was gonna do more with its content rather than just ESPORTS.

I can understand that, and it is simple really. Let me take Junkinstin's Revenge as that is a great example, I played the shit out of that mode because I enjoyed that it was chill, but it also got dull really fast. If they kept gamemodes forever then would a lot of players get dull and never return to them, but by making them event-specific do they feel fresh when they go live and it gets fun to play them again.

Sure it is luck based but they also increase the changes to get the event legendary items so it is "easier" to get them. But I can understand that. I have played the game so much that it isn't an issue as I gather enough currency before an event start (as I never buy the normal stuff as we can just unlock that with normal boxes) that I can at least buy one event-skin I really want. And honestly, it does feel special to open a box and see the skin you wanted there in front of you, but yeah we all have been unlucky and that is frustrating.

Removing it? It is still in the game, you just have to wait for the event to start again. Also, we saw capture the flag become a normal gamemode, who knows if a PvE thing will be permanent as well.

Do not get me wrong! I respect your opinion but I also find it interesting to hear why and what you find awful (probably because I am a game developer and enjoy analyzing good and bad things in games)
I do not understand why them including the E-sports brandings is an issue? I can't even watch it because of my EU timezone, so I just say "fuck it" and continues to play the game like nothing had happened. I don't see how E-sports made the game experience worse, no one is forcing you to buy skins (besides most of them look awful).

Well let me flip that on you somewhat. you say Junkenstein's revenge can get stale. and im saying its normal way of play thats getting stale. PvP gets boring. I dont want to play against other players all the time. I have no other option. Why is it that the event based thing can get boring but not the main game? Im directly saying that the reason im not wanting to play this game because the only thing i can do is face other people. Im not even saying the Event itself needs to stay, Junkenstein's revenge Aesthetic will get old. But the game mode itself isnt. Just remove the Halloween theme and make something more, something like Uprising, and keep it in the game as something more to play than just the PvP. That way the Event is still special. How is it the main game cant get stale but the new game modes can? It is essentially whats keeping me from playing the game because i have found the main game to become stale and boring and extremely frustrating.

Thats essentially how i was in the beginning. When the game came out. for an entire year I was able to get so many loot boxes and dupes and stuff like that I outright Bought all of the first year halloween costumes because i had that much gold. but since they changed the way loot boxes are acquired and how much less i get and how much gold you cant get. I have next to no gold. I get nothing but sprays. i have to play play play play even more now just get ANY kind of reward and that itself is super frustrating.

How is locking the content away for a whole year not the same as removing it? It just shows the things you will never be able to get until you wait for it to open up again. Its removing it from the item pool and removing the game modes from being played. Thus removed from any way of accessing it. Being IN the game doesnt change the point.

As for the Esports thing. its purely a message to anyone like me who buys the game for the game and want more things to make the game enjoyable, that they are not going to concentrate on the casual side of things. It shows me that they dont want to make the game fun and more interesting , they want to make content for Esports. they want to sell you something else than what you bought. This in no way helps me get interested in playing your game. It breaks any kind of flow they had. And proves that the only reason certain changes are now being made so that "HARDCORE" players get what they want over the overall balance of the game. It shows me where there goals for the game are. If they want to concentrate on making it a sport rather than a more engaging and fun game, well then im fucked. XD

For me do PvE get stale quick even if it is super fun and I highly enjoy it. However, PvP is different since games are never the same as you get new teammates that you have to understand and work together with and new enemies with different skill levels, that is how the game somewhat stays "fresh" for me (also I like to play competitive mode as it feels more fun to play against your own skill level and people at least try to work together (sometimes with success and sometimes it just fails)). But I should also say that OW is not a game I grind every day, I play 0-3 games each day and that is about it. Also yes I think having some permanent PvE thing could be fun for a lot of casual players (hell, I would be sold if they made a Campaign mode)
I find your issue interesting, so I have to ask, do you one-trick or main a single hero? Or only a selected few? I of course have my own mains but I tend to flex for the situation or what the team needs since we have 26 unique heroes do I want to play them all. I have a friend who mains two heroes (Zarya and Mercy) and she has times where she feels it is getting stale because she doesn't know what to play as she got bored of those two at that time.

That is funny because I felt the same way in the start... until I got every single common and rare item type from the normal lootbox (since you know, when you always get new stuff will there come a point where you have it all if you play enough). Besides, when they made that change did they also increase the chance of getting currency drops so there shouldn't be a difference between the old and the new system, I can understand it feels that way but in theory, should you still get the same amount of currency but also get new stuff all the time.

Removing it means it will never come back, but it does so I don't agree with that point. Besides this makes it exciting when things do come back, my friend that I mentioned before did not get the Zenyatta skin in last year's lunar new year event, and she can't wait for the event to start so she can buy the skin. Since you also enjoy the PvE do I assume that you will go back in and play a bit when the Uprising event comes back? If so they do this system work even if it can be frustrating.

But that is not how it works... sure they are using a lot of manpower on the E-sports aspect, but that doesn't mean that is the only thing they are working on, they probably have 10 other smaller teams working on other things like maps, gamemodes, new heroes and new loot for the normal lootbox which we will actually get soon. I can understand that it feels that way since they have been very "in your face" with all the E-sport stuff so I can understand why you have that opinion on it.

So you think the PvE can get stale. dont you think it only gets stale BECAUSE they dont keep the mode and make it more interesting and allow for more heroes to play certain modes or add more enemy types to change depending on the build the players use? I fail to see how the PvP can stay interesting (because they are constantly changing the way Heroes play against eachother) but that somehow wouldnt effect PvE when they dont put more thought into the other game modes. Its easy to say PvE would get stale when they only make it to be played for 2 weeks. of course its gonna get stale when its 1 map and set amount of enemies and only so many heroes you can use. its why they need to keep that game mode and expand it. I play a lot of different Heroes and it depends on the map and team builds. Im not just a one trick player. Zarya , Zen , Lucio , Ana, Phara , Rein , Soldier , Winston, Roadie and sometimes I would dabble in heroes I dont normally use. Depending on the team comp.

Well of course now YOU possibly can but when i was playing more routinely dupes were numerous and the payout was cheap for dupes. but the grind for lootboxes is such a chore I dont play much and I dont get much reward. Its easier for you to say its easy to get the new things when you are okay with playing the game every day. Mind you, the only reason I bought the Halloween skins that first time was because that entire month of playing the game I DIDNT GET ONE SINGLE SKIN from the event. Not to mention this was after I found out you cant get them after the event ends. I had to buy them because my luck is that terrible. And there lies the problem with me / the game. The only thing that they are adding to the game that i find interesting IS the skins and the events.

The idea that bringing it back makes it exciting eludes me. because as i said before. the things I like to play are only there for that part of the year thus I should wait then to play the game and get excited for something that I know they are just gonna hide away after its done with. That doesnt make me want to play your game, that makes me want to stop so i dont get my hopes up for some fun addition only to be taken away from me. Maybe thats just me. So unless they keep it in , I wont be playing.

But that is how it works. Once you start to show where your goals lie , it paints an impression that they arent in it for their base. they are in it for how much money they can get from marketing and from die hard fans. Ive seen it plenty of times in the games that ive loved ruined by E sports. Street Fighter a franchise I love, After the success of Street Fighter 4 and how that blew up in the E Sports. They dedicated Street Fighter V to be the E-sports fighter. And in doing so they released an unfinished imbalanced mess! With promises that they will support the E-sports scene and that the fans can support their favorite players by Buying E-sport themed related DLC and or costumes. Consumers were begging for more modes of play and better net code and everything! but dont worry its not for them, its for E Sports. Marvel vs Capcom Infinite also went down the same route. Released an unfinished game, people say it plays well (like how Overwatch does) but suffers from imbalance and they were hyping up tournaments and E-sports for the game before the game was released and got in the hands of consumers. That game is also dead in the water right now! There was a game I played Routinely that was a MOBA game called Awesomenauts. They are a little indie developer type company had an extremely fun game. A lot of people were playing it. The moment they started to Re balance the game and changed it to be more like E Sports, the entire player base left! It fell off sooo bad that they ended up making the game Free to Play. Its now just a fraction of its former self. Pushing E-sports is never a good look.

Correction (since it wouldnt let me edit my post) pushing E-sports and focusing your game on it is bad. Not that if your game naturally becomes an E-sport. Cause there are games that are just naturally fun that then become a competitive sport. I dont feel like that is happening with this completely. I feel like his whole Esports push from them was what they were planning on doing, and now that they got everyones money they are gonna push E sports to try and get more of it.

Oh come on, it can't be that bad~
I mean it's not like those normal loot boxes are way too expensive, letting minors gamble and trying to get as much money as possible out of you. Right?

Oh well who cares the game is still super fun! And it's not like they patched my main; Roadhog and made him weak or something like that! >:D
Oh wait...

Ah it is not that bad. I mean I can still play my 2nd main character mercy and do one of those awesome ultimates, where I revive my entire team! :D
Oh wait...

Agh who cares about killing my two mains right? I can find another main and I can also still play one of those awesome 3vs3 with my friends! :D
Oh they patched it so you cannot play that with your friends anymore?

Oh well at least they gifted you 100 tokens for some skins! :D
Oh... just one skin?

Hm ... I am sure you can easily unlock some of them in this event since there are so many of them!
Oh... you can pretty only buy them with cash?

Pfff there are so many, it can't be that expensive then! :D
5 DOLLARS for one skin???


Okay but hey at least half of the money goes to the specific teams! :D
Too bad I don't care about them at all...

But hey they look so cool, I bet if I buy them in bulk packages it won't be that expensive after all! :D
Hmm but which one's should I get...? All those colors are looking neat!

So... How much money do I have to spend?
Let's see 26 heros multiplied by 12 teams, multiplied by 100 dollars for the 2600 token bundle iisss:

ONLY 1'200 euros which is ONLY about 1'440 USD!

...

:D

...

*uninstall* :3


-> I put way too much effort into this...

Before anyone complains about my comment: It is supposed to be funny! I do still enjoy the game quite alot sometimes as I don't play it that much anymore and yes I am aware that you are not "supposed" to get every skin, yet these problems are very real and it's time that we finally get a game again where we don't have to spend money or gamble to get some awesome skins but rather play, do missions or complete interesting challenges again!
And yes I was really upset because of what happend to my two mains Roadhog and Mercy. I still play them despite of the changes. Not that much anymore though...

ah hahah no worriess. I got the message. and your statements are fair. hope my rant was entertaining!

Yeah haha. Actually I didn't even know about the tokens being "buy only" before I heard you here x3
A good reason to not participate in this event just for the sake of getting something new.
I hope I was able to add a little bit of fun to the whole discussion! ^^

I'm at a point with loot boxes where I would rather just pay $5 for a skin I really want then go through the hell of opening a ton of loot boxes (earned or purchased) and maybe getting it.

A couple of points there that I'd like to argue.

Now keep in mind I find Overwatch has gotten stale and is kind of mediocre regardless.

It's been said or hinted at that Overwatch has been aiming for a piece of the E-sport cake since it's inception. Blizzard knew there was money to be made just selling a hyped up AAA game but they also knew(mostly from Starcraft II) that there's SHITTONS of money to be made over years and years if you can get that game in Esports.

All the changes around lootboxes and events, are pretty much all there to incite/force people to buy lootboxes, to invest more than the base price of the game.

I heard from another game company (Riotgames regarding LoL) that there is such a thing as a "hangover effect" in video games, were if a fun gamemode (that deviates from the normal game mode) is around for too long eventually when people play the basic game again they don't find it fun anymore and simply stop playing the game. This might be the sources of Overwatch timed event gamemode, and the rotation of gamemodes in arcade, or it might be something else entirely.

So overall, most off blizzard decisions regarding Overwatch are based on 1 thing : Make as much money as possible.

Now don't be fooled, Blizzard is a huge company, and much like EA they have A LOT of experts from all field and all the data they need to know that any changes they decide to make even if players complain, they still come out on top money wise.



On a different kind of not but still kind of money related, the rift that exist between the game lore(comics and trailers) and the gameplay (the game itself).

Now once again I'll base this on League of Legends, you see for years Riotgames tried and tried to make the lore of their champions (heroes) and the game itself work together, making it as cannon as possible. Before finally after years of confining their lore creation to the rigidness of the game setting itself, decided to make everything that happens in the game non-canon, the champions themselves existed at various eras of their world called Runeterra but them fighting eachothers in some magical arena to show their skills to the world never happened.
Now to be fair Blizzard very quickly pointed out that what happens in the base game isn't canon (obviously you wouldn't have S76 and Reaper fighting on the same side) and their spinets of conversations are essentially "what if they DID fight together?".
Truthfully the base game itself is really not adapted to be reconciled/married with the lore itself. The only way to make the "lore playable" would be to make a solo campaign (and blizzard said they'd want to give it the same amount of polish they usually do all their games which would be the same as making a whole entire new game essentially for free because they probably know not enough people would pay for storymode DLC of Overwatch, at least not compared to the money they'd make if they can get Esports Overwatch working)



So yeah, in the end, it's all about making money, surprise surprise. =P

a lot of those points make sense. I mean id be lying if I said I didnt see the Esports thing coming after the first year it was released and they were pushing those pro teams and tournaments at their conventions and streams. I never found the competitive play entirely entertaining to watch either. It all looked like a more coordinated mess if anything.

The hangover effect makes sense too. which is my biggest gripe. i had more fun doing the event based stuff than just grinding against other players.

in other words blizzard is "making it make money" https://youtu.be/bybkLlNbaaw?t=13s
uugh

Just makes me more and more glad that I never picked up the game to begin with.

It's all just capture the flag trying to capitolize on e sports concepts....... have a bath and some coca

i don't enjoy lootboxes on a whole, but at the least, you don't have to spend one cent buying them.
i also come from an era where you made your OWN skins, so you had your own presence in a game.

the game is kinda stale too, there isn't too much you can do with the format that OW has taken.
its either cap point or cart push. CTF kinda doesn't work 6v6 and with someone who can fly or break the game type with their abilities to get around better than others, i just don't like it.
its funny though, you really can't increase the team count too much higher without ruining the game as a whole.

the whole esports thing is junk since they keep changing how characters work via updates and it just sucks.
when i was really really good at shooters, it was the 90s and it was GO FAST and KILL FAST, grab the flag and hop all the way home.
there was no updates because everyone was on the same level of play, just you, the weapons and your skill and knowledge of the map.

whenever i do play OW though, i can get a feel of when we are gonna win or lose. its a team effort and when your team isn't pulling it together, you wonder why you bother even trying to win.

I remember those games. they are extremely entertaining to watch. Watching some old Unreal Tournament footage is crazy!

dude, i can still remember spending long summer nights back in 99 just playing on the map Facing Worlds, a CTF map
straight forward map with possibly the best music you can just listen to for hours and hours.

I somewhat agree with you. my issue is that skins and esports stuff are taking residence over actual content. Which hopefully someday they realize might be bleeding them dry. Blizzard has a tendency to latch on to games for a while so my hope is that they start putting in map editors and just a lot more characters and official maps. The extra characters will probably help the balanced since the balance wont rely solely on one or two characters in that respective role anymore. idk, i do really enjoy the game and i regret nothing but it is indeed getting carried away. I have a lot of dry spells with it.

Yah, Overwatch has died off for me, which sucks because I like the character designs and want to know more about the story. But story and competitive, rage inducing game modes do not mix. The loot boxes... well, there's a great video by the game theorist that explains all you need to know on those. They've become a problem. I admit I've spent real money on digital goods across different games, Overwatch included, but I've gotten real tired of it all. If I'm going to spend actual money on a game, I'd rather get the exact piece of content that I want rather than rolling the dice a dozen times to maybe get that thing I want.

No, fuck you! Loot boxes are a great thing to have and the Esports only proves it! Your stupid, your comments are stupid, and your voice is the worst part.

Surprised you would say that (and personally I think there's a difference between Lootboxes {Where you get ripped off in a game you paid for} and Booster Packs {Where it is required to play the game... like TCG/CCG})

And event specifics are grappling hooks that will be annoying as fudge to evade or the like.

Cosmetics are only good for so long (And it would be a problem if there are weapons or power heroes in there.) as it reminds you of how much can't be unlocked during certain times.

And balance, well I'm going to say this now: Most important and when it focuses on things not meant to be experienced by everyone means that this game is trying to send someone overboard.

Huh, this came up as I was watching OWL and realizing it's the only time competitive play hasn't killed my interest in a game. OW finally made me drop TF2 after nine years, with my only break being a short time after the Roadhog nerfs. OW isn't a particularly fitting game for esports, but Blizzard is second only to Valve in knowing how to exploit their games to the fullest, so this isn't a surprise. And it's not like the existence of the OWL has any impact on how the rest of us play aside from giving everyone a couple of free recolor skins.

And on the bright side, the lootbox plague might be ending soon, thanks to EA provoking many countries into looking into whether video game lootboxes should even be legal.

This does make me wonder... what the hell happened to the days when our reason to play games was because we liked having fun, not to get more stuff inside the game?

Companies got greedy, that's what happened. They realized they could scoop out 90% of the game to sell it back to us in 5% chunks as excess DLC without so much as a peep from the audience about "Why are games so short?" STARES HARD AT COD

But in all seriousness, companies have been twisting games into casinos lately, and AFAIK Bethesda's the only one producing AAA games that DON'T have a multiplayer component, or BS lootboxes (Wolfenstein and Fallout 4 being the latest), although the cracks of greed are starting to show in Fallout 4 and the... fifth release of Skyrim? with that paid mods system they're implementing. I don't want that creation club, I want it gutted, I want Bethesda to keep their mitts off of mods before they go and remove the capabilities for the average consumer to make a mod, and reserve the GECK for those they're paying to make content for their games

Im looking forward for the day that lookboxes are outlawed in gaming. at least being purchasable with real money.
So we can get rid of this mentality playing to get stuff.

Yeah... I don't blame you at all for this rant. I mean, i dont have as much fun as I use to playing this game. I am sick of having to see characters I enjoy playing as get nerfed to hell and back and buffs to characters who are completely bullshit. The loot box situation... ugh. 20 twenty boxes I bought (not at once) only maybe two or three gave me some sweet skins for the winter holiday. I'm done buying the damn things cause what a rip off.

I might play here and there for friends when they invite me but not as much as I did when i first got it. I have dozens of games I've yet to even start up.

The game needs mod support. That's why TF2 was able to live for so long. There is still so many other things to do outside of the PvP mode on other servers.

Mod support would be cool. but Blizzard stopped letting people mod their games a while ago.

Overwatch is for those not playing Destiny 2.... but that is the trap.

It's the same shit in a different game. Typical Blizzard though.

Anytime the power of the pocket is implemented, a game loses me. Anyone who has disposable income or has mommy and daddy buy them whatever they want gets the unfair advantage. Money should be for looks only.

That for sure is one way of looking at it.

I remember at certain points when i was playing Winston how pretty much D.VA was essentially just a better more powerful Winston. He was just terrible. Roadhog could do everything. they didnt know what to do with McCree.

But totally understand

I stopped playing back in October when I unlocked all the event skins, and I have been back once since. I came to realize that while I thought at first I didn't feel like playing the game, it was actually boredom. The game has no more magic for me.

Now who's ready for that retarded mercy nerf.

lol

I still play TF2, and I keep hearing people who play it wanting for Valve to push their competitive more and more.

But after Overwatch, I feel even more that it would be a mistake.

I totally agree with all you said Daigo, 100%

This is the thing that ticked me off the most about Overwatch though.

Blizzard has a program running in it's matchmaking that looks at your win/loss ratio, and determined on that ratio it matches you up with differently skilled players.

It's goal is to keep you at a perfect 50/50 win/loss ratio, and that pisses me off the most.

Do you know how many times I've been matched up against like...four or five silver portraits on the other team, yet the highest player we got on ours is a two star? Too many to fucking count.

The fact the game is rigging the results before it even begins really kills the play ability for me. Yes, I understand you'll get silver portraits ever other game. But when they're not partied up and all are on one side and not evenly distributed between teams? It really pushes your hand.

I really want to like the game. The characters, the lore, the shorts, the comics, hell I even have multiple pieces of my character dressed like my favorite character McCree. I even put up with the loot box bull shit because it doesn't change the game play, but gives you some bad ass skins. But when you tamper with my experience playing the game? That, that is when I will start to get put off by your title.

I don't care all that much about cosmetics, the gameplay is really what draws me into a game like Overwatch. It's irritating to not have access to all skins, but it's not a deal-breaker. I haven't played much Overwatch lately, though.

I've gone back to playing TF2. Keeping it to 9 classes keeps the game cleaner. It's harder to fuck up the meta by adding a weapon because weapons usually fit the style of the weapon they are replacing. Also it's easier for me to enjoy a game when I've had over 1000 hours to get good at it...

Also why the fuck does Overwatch remove gamemodes when an event is over? Maybe I want to play that horde mode map again. Maybe I liked Lucioball. FUCK

TF2 and Splatoon 2.

add me on steam? >U<

ah hahah i hardly play many PC and multiplayer games so adding steam people is pointless

Thank you for your input though. it makes sense!

I agree 100%

I 100% THANKS!

I still play Overwatch, but there's no denying the truth in this rant.

The way Overwatch handles it's event-based/seasonal content is the worst, most obviously money-grubbing way to go about it. It's even worse now because they reduced the odds you'll get duplicates (that should be a good thing, but when your only source of credits is duplicates, it means you're chances of getting credits are reduced). On top of event skins being triple the price of normal skins, you basically *have* to buy loot boxes in order to get the skins you want.

So at this point, I ignore all the seasonal skins. My friends and I still get together and play (Moira is a really fun new character), but I probably wouldn't play if I didn't have someone to party up with.

I'll give them credit for adding new characters like Moira, but then I see how they handle character updates (especially my girl, Mercy) and I'm left wanting.

I like Overwatch, but it and Blizzard need some tough love right now.

LoL has this thing where the most recently updated characters are usually top tier and old characters are occasionally being revisited to make them fit the current meta. Not ALL the old characters fall out of use, but it's a weird balance.

I hope Overwatch doesn't end up having so many characters that it has this issue, I don't know how many they plan to add....

I mean. I stopped playing the game after the guy made that headshot hit boxes video. Where you can shoot for to the sides of ones head and bullets sick into the skull. and standing around a corner and shooting close to it sucks the arrow/hit into the head.

How could I ever feel ''good'' about playing a game if it spoon feeds me? I played to level 60. stopped, I havent even prestiged once.

I haven't even started listening yet, but all I can say is, Genji players. mashing the H button like it's the only thing on their keyboard. you're welcome.