For the most part beto is an idiot and hogg, i just forgot about the kid as he had his 15 minutes of fame. Then i just ignored him. the more he is brought back the more he crops back up like stale farts.

After Hogg turned 18, the media also ignored him. The same things going to happen to that Greta girl. Once she turns 18, the media will ignore her too.

There's still the issue that many people believe Sandy Hook was a false flag. (Wasn't Hogg in that school?)

Nah hogg wasn't, he was at parkland. we had some dipshit threaten parkland students recently

Speaking as both a European liberal, a logical theorist and strategist, as well as somebody utterly soured watching omnipresent divisiveness consume the world, I would advise conservatives to be careful. Modern liberalism appears, finally, to be learning hard lessons - first, that disenfranchisement breeds horrible consequences; second, that social media and its effect on traditional media have now made it impossible to deplatform the lunatic, the self-righteous and the extremist, and the way to fight back is to take a leaf out of the alt-right playbook - control and weaponise the delivery of the message rather than the message itself. Greta Thunberg is a tactical nuke for our side right now because it's impossible to deride her without coming accross as a massive asshole to those whose hearts and minds must be won over to expand your reach. Ditto for Hogg, if he was present at one of the most infamous incidents. If Hogg has had his 'fifteen minutes of fame', why bring him up at all?

The perception of liberalism en masse being arrogant, out of touch and not prepared to listen is what did us in 2016 and brought about Brexit and Trump. Trump is incapable of taking this on board. Mitch McConnell doesn't appear to want to. Don't make the same mistakes we did or you will lose and lose HARD. Winning all three branches of government may sound like the Rapture for American liberalism, but it will be for naught if divisiveness on all sides means that it becomes impossible to pass any legislation at all of any sort without it looking like 'payback' for the previous four years. Turning politics into a zero-sum game of 'winners' and 'losers' is the one thing I will not forgive our UK government and its hopeless opposition for, never mind yours.

Red needs to let Karno go, its gonna happen either ways.

let go of the chain.

Not against gun ownership. I'm more against needing more bullets than a soldier and not being sent to war.

The whole point of keeping more ammo is in case if the war comes to you.

I joined the USARMY, in 1972. to protect the constitution, including The Right to Bare arms. As my father did to stop the Nazi's and his brother did as well.
My mothers brother, my uncle Ralph, lost his life protecting the Constitution, even tho the government lied to the country.
Oath of Enlistment:
My oath of enlistment. ""I, Amber L. Thompson, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed ... Unless same orders contradict moral and lawful duty!” and against gun banners.

War against who? unarmed citizens? considering there have bee a few rogue gun owners that tend to go out for war than having it come to them. So tell me where is the logic behind that? There is only a few needs for guns: defense, and hunting. so are we dealing with cannibals needing to slaughter humans in order to eat? or are we dealing with people who fear unarmed men? Maybe if those who owned guns would own up to the ones who run astray, like they demand others to own up on their extremists, maybe I wouldn't need to think about limiting ammo.

Vicious paper terrorists at the range. If you ain't got ammo you can't shoot.

I know a guy, three times Michigan state pistol champion that switched to archery because the ammo cost was killing him. You can re-use arrows.

And why I want a gun is frankly nobody's business. If I blast pretend Nazi blowing through hundreds of rounds daily or I hang it on the wall and never fire it. My property, my business. It is not the government's right to tell me what I need and for what.

That argument is giving the government the right to tell you if you need something. Do you honestly want government having the right to tell you if you need anything? Considering how bad they are with limits we have on them now?

On the other hand, it *is* kind of the business of other regular folks who only want to feel safe and secure. Most of the time, shouldn't be a problem anyway. But do you think it would be advantageous to be able to pull out a simple document to show 'I'm good', the same way a driver's license (and yes, we know vehicular accidents and fatalities are more common, plus if there's an idiot in a car you'd want to know in order to avoid them) adds that extra reassurance? As long as there was an acceptable way of implementing it, of course, even if it means policing yourselves in a fashion people can trust.

Ive taken the CCW course. People who have are not the ones shooting up the place. Mass shooters make the news, but it is suicide by gun that is killing the most people. That is not a gun issue, it is a mental health issue. And our Veterans that suffer the worse. "Support the Troops" says the Government, and cut the VA while we are at it.

I personally know someone within a minute of killing himself, a friend called and invited him to dinner, and he didn't do it. This was his first person account. I'm not naming names.

We sill go much further in ending "Gun violence" by destigmatizing mental issues and honestly dealing with them, but that is hard.. That spends money in unsplashy ways that might actually help people, but doses not make the "beautiful people" look good.

How much easier it is to blame the tool, and punish the non-guilty.

This should also fall under the remit of healthcare in general, but that's an issue for another day.

See, people? Gun owners that you can debate with. They are not unicorns. Don't make them or us look like wasting everyone's time.

I think it an issue for now. Health period, mental is not separate from physical. The mind and body are one. To aid one, you must aid both. Good public health care does not make political donors rich.

Great Briton, a rather small nation, has run the National Health Service 70 years, and it has done a lot more good than not. In the US we pay more for health care and get less, because of for profit insurance and "health care" providers.

And here in the US the right to bear arms is a constitutionally assured right, not a privilege, not something granted by the Government. Why? Because the founders did not trust government. The reason to have an assault weapon is to point those weapons at a government that has over stepped the bounds. Hence the saying that liberty comes in three boxes, the jury box, the ballot box, and the cartridge box.

H. Beam Piper had an interesting idea. An open season on politicians. It was legal to shoot, stab or otherwise do great mayhem to any politician that displeased you. I think the idea should be given a fair trial.

They were quite capable of that themselves when duelling still existed.

The future of the NHS is one of the things Remainers are most scared about with a no-deal Brexit; that the economic hit and the need to make fresh trade deals will turn it into a bargaining chip to be broken up and sold off to private insurance companies while the hardcore Brexiteers in government make a packet out of it.

Bring back political duels. The winner gets the office.

And I like the comment further down the page. As when seconds count the police are minutes away, the most shooty thing the SWAT teams have the average citizen needs, for when the cops are not there. If they feel they needs it, why do they assume we are different?

Well from experience I can only offer two things in response: the flipside of a different culture where the gun isn't present but the 'balance' - knife crime notwithstanding - is the same (ie. neither the populace nor the police feel the need for the weapon more than the other, broadly speaking), or the example where, for reasons other than the gun itself, it all goes horribly, horribly wrong and which the underground firearm makes worse (Northern Ireland).

The point is not escalation, but deescalation. The police are over militarized, they don't talk anymore, they roll in guns out and shoot the joint up.

Mr Cop, why do you feel you need a fully automatic weapon, and if you needed it, should not the public be equally protected? Any honest cop will tell you they cannot protect you. All they can do is clean up the mess.

A few things.

Constant cop cam. What Mr Officer, are you doing something that you don't want seen? If you are doing your job right, then you have nothing to worry about.

If the camera goes out, you get fired. If anything hinky happens, you get prosecuted.

Shoot anyone, your career is over. Your time as a cop is ended. Even if totally justified.

Said malpractice insurance. The City does not cover your errors, that is your job. If you are too risky for insurance, you cannot get the job. If the whole department cannot afford insurance, the city has a problem.


Also noted is Chicago, worse gun crime in the country, tightest gun laws. A shining example of how more gun control does not work. Conversely every state with shall issue gun laws sees a drop in crime.

Guns area fact of life in this country, they are not going away, it is illegal for them to go away.. So real issues must be faced. Guns do not kill people, so why are people killing people? Address that.

That is the whole issue People are killing people, WHY!?

Only answer I can give to that is 'Americans are being actively encouraged to fear or hate each other more', which may be true but is still glib, unhelpful, and only replaces one question with another.

The Bill of Rights is not The Bill of Needs. Certainly no one needs a Saturday Night Special or an Assault Rifle, just as no one really needs a Corvette with it's high-capacity engine or reaching a speed of 150 MPH. Yet we have the freedom to choose what we want in the USA. What to eat--and how much. What to wear, where to travel, and how to worship.

How many rounds to kill a deer? How about how many to stop a feral hog? A rapist? A murderer? A home invasion? Get it done in ten? Why do the police need more than ten? Why do the bodyguards of politicians and celebrities even need guns? Why can't they just call 9-1-1 too?

police need more than ten, because of the large groups of gun owners who happen to carry three times the rounds to fire at the police officer. Secondly bodyguards know the use of a gun should be more a dire last minute, and considering how many celebrities were shot at by loony gunmen, I think it's fair they have them. Secondly when you quote a bill of right to someone who has killed people who had the right to live by the same bill of rights, your point is no longer valid because you just defended a murderer. again the question I ask is why do they need so much that they can attack unarmed people. I can understand the right to defend yourself, but if you're that bad of a shot to need more than one bullet, Nature is just gonna take you out.

Again, not against guns, more against people who go out trying to spray bullets upon other people who don't deserve it.

In an ideal world, 'gun control' ought to be as simple as personal responsibility for your own firearm and none of us would dispute that.

But that's the problem with a utopia. It only takes one person to fuck it right up.

Who's talking about a Utopia? I'm talking about balancing the right to bare arms with the right to not have armed nutjobs go out and kill random unarmed people. If you think that's a fucking Utopia, then you need your head examined. It's called letting people live. That's all I want, is for people to live, unless they do something like home invasion, rape, theft, anything that would harm another human being, then they are fair game for armed citizens.

I was using it metaphorically to state how needlessly difficult the issue is, and believe me, I would like to see the same balanced way out of the logjam that you would with the least pushback from everyone.

I don't live with a gun culture, but I did grow up in a very troubled environment where the dominant hive minds of the day during the worst of it became 'everyone over there is at fault'. Don't let America become infected the same way Northern Ireland was, is the only other thing I'm saying.

true both extremes are not right, but we need the balance.

Incidentally, when the ceasefires were finally declared for good in the late 90s and the Good Friday Agreement later signed - due in no small part to the personal involvement of Bill Clinton - it really did feel 'utopian' at the time. A whole generation that had known nothing but violence had the scales lifted from their eyes and were able to see how things should normally be.

In an ideal world the nutjobs shouldn't be able to get guns.

We all know how deadly video games are.

The police do not use their tool responsibly.. They need to be held to the same level of deadly force as everyone else. "To protect and defend" has become a joke, it is now "cover my ass".

Are all police bad? No, but a few are making the rest, who will not police their own, look bad. To borrow an old rubric, one bad cop, and 39 good cops that do nothing, equals forty bad cops.

one shot?

Have you ever been under the stress of being shot AT?

Have you ever tried shooting a moving target?

Have you ever shot a drugged up psycho who can't be taken down by one bullet?

Or shot at some one with too small a calibur round to do enough damage to stop them?

It's not so simple as hollywood makes it look.

Why keep your gas tank full if you aren't going to drive across the state? Same question, same answer.

every time I keep seeing red pop-ups somewheres buys me of the fact at some point I really want to find myself sitting across people from that pretty little mare. Always been curious what she thinks of old wolves. Then feeling my age more of late and that's the kind of Little Lassie I wouldn't mind a little bit of hot chocolate and Movie time with. Strange to see her with that kind of look of intimidation, usually she comes off as quite the unintimidated Type. Couple of movies in the back of my mind I'm willing to bet she'd love binge watching for television series for that matter.

I just want kids to be safe in our schools. :/

Would banning politicians from them help?

Not really? I mean, they already haven't cared or done anything anyway, so I doubt it would make a difference.

I think politicians have done plenty to schools -- mostly to the negative, unfortunately.

^This.

Get parents who give a damn about their offspring, get rid of teacher's unions, and encourage martial arts, and you'll have safe kids. ^_^

I'm pretty sure martial arts isn't effective against bullets, contrary to what The Matrix claims.

No, but it means that kids who are bullied will get a proper chance to fight back without having to bring knives, guns, or acid to school with them. A friend I used to know would carry a bowie knife in his backpack, regardless of school rules. I personally used to carry sturdy metal pens and/or a pen with a hidden blade or other such stabbing implements. If I knew martial arts, I probably would have been able to zen out more, not let the constant teasing get to me, and still been able to defend myself if actual contact was made.

So you're talking about tackling the systemic problem rather than the immediate one. I mean, that's not a bad idea. Definitely has merit, and might help some kids with physical bullying, but even with training not everyone has the instinct for fighting. Unfortunately, it doesn't fix social bullying, which is more subtle and complicated.

There is always an instinct for fighting. Some people need to be pushed more than others, but everybody has a breaking point. There is no such thing as a truly peaceful person. As a boyscout, I had to endure long trips with other scouts to jamborees, often in the back of some rented Ford Econoline. With no AC. I was teased, and hassled, and the adults are busy trying to figure out where the right turn off is, I'm on my own. Well, like I said. Everybody reaches a snapping point. Mine came when I found myself crying, but at the same time, bloodying my tormentor's face by using the lap belt as a flail. Adults finally noticed they had a problem and told the tormentors to knock it off, but they got the message already. Everybody has limits. Everybody has a breaking point. The point is to vent the frustration, the anger, or not let it get to you in the first place, before you reach that snapping point.

Granted, I never dealt with cyber bullying. I was raised offline, in the days before the internet really took off. AOL disks were everywhere, I used Netscape, Yahoo! was still fairly new. With cyber bullying, someone can anonymously ruin someone's life. This in itself can increase the desire to take on everyone, sometimes with a gun. With this, better internet education is key. Drill into children that the internet is forever. Be careful with your details. Don't sign up for random things or chat with random people. Don't blog, unless you are a professional. Don't release personal details, and especially never upload stupid photos. Always assume the worst can happen, plan accordingly, and it shouldn't happen.

Basically, educate kids on the dangers of social media, and you shouldn't see as many school shootings. They will still happen, some kids are just evil (they exist) but others are just naive and make horrible mistakes. These mistakes can cost them their lives, and to someone with hormones at war in their system, their social life is everything. Kids are cruel creatures with cliques that will eat each other alive. Pecking orders are established. You're at the top, the middle, or the bottom. Always aim for the middle, but never rise to the top, because then you're a target and will, at any moment, be kicked irreversibly down to the bottom.

My relief was getting big. When you are 6 foot tall and 2 foot wide at 16, the bullies back off.

That is not however a solution. What needs to happen is some responsibility among the adults who would rather look away. The end of zero intelligence policies that punishes the bullied not just the bully. Public Schools have become child abuse centers.

It's not so simple as that. The system we have is to blame for parents who have no time for their kids. I was a latch key kid at the age of 7 because my mom HAD to work to feed us.

A better form of social contract is needed. The slavery of crapitalism is the main problem.

Teachers unions are the ONLY way to fight the corporate greed that is destroying schools.

Martial arts are god. Bring back GUN SAFETY classes that used to be taught in schools is what's also needed.

Fix the cops. Better training and SOCIALIZATION/empathy classes. DEMILITARIZE THEM! Require THEM to have 'malpractice' insurance so the cities won't have to spend money to defend those bad ones. THEN bring 'officer friendly' back into the class room.

It will have to take a full on paradigm shift towards humanity.

Capitalism has nothing to do with this. Neither does teachers unions, but at least if we got rid of the unions, schools would be free to actually hire good teachers and fire bad ones, instead of being forced to keep shitty ones around who no longer give a shit anymore. Also corporate greed in schools? Pff, I wish. At least then they'd have proper funding. Lunches, courtesy of <insert brand name here> but otherwise, I don't see how corporations could really be bad for schools at this point. Maybe down the line, when they have PE sponsored by Nike, then maybe things would be bad but at this point, one shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.

When unions are banned, the conditions for teachers head for Hell. Look at Wisconsin.

I'm no fan of the union because they dig in their heels reflexively to any change. But banning them opens the teachers to total abuse by the politicians.

Unions are a reaction. W. P. Ruther stated: "Unions do not organize shops. Management organizes shops." It is bad treatment that causes unions, not greed. Well, then the union gets greedy, reactionary to any change, and become worse than the problem they were meant to solve.

Where is the balance? How can we assure teachers they will not be trod all over and will have the tools they require to teach? Schools have been reduced to day prison for children. Arbitrary and draconian rules. A lack of supplies, good books and motivated teachers.

Want to kill zero tolerance? Suggest to the school board that as principles and superintendents do not have make decisions any more they can be paid less.

Yes.

Sadly I was part of the electrician union to try to get a good apprenticeship and a good career. I KNOW the history of the NEED for unions and WHY they were created and that many people DIED for our rights in the slavery shit storm of crapitalism.

The system was totally screwed. The members didn't have any recall of their own history. They were all lazy and greedy. I tried to ask why they were the way they were but got only the standard "makes me money" answer...

There has to be some way to only allow good non greedy people into unions?

And until lazy, greedy, asswipes can be weeded out of unions, or not allowed to join, then unions are bad. Where I live, there's a powerful bus driver's union called the Teamsters or some shit. They should all be convicted of racketeering. They demanded higher wages, and when they were refused, they went on strike. Simple enough, but they neglected to think of the thousands of people they fucked over when they refused to drive the buses. Not only that, but they are asshole drivers. I was forced off the road into a construction sign by a bus. I had a CB radio at the time, and a gun, and I screamed at him that if he ever did anything like that again, I'd shoot out his radiator in the back, wait for him to stop, then hold him at gunpoint until cops arrived and took him into custody. Of course, I got no reply from that fucker. No willingness to take responsibility for his actions at all. The Teamsters demanded increased wages and wouldn't be satisfied until the city partially ground to a halt. Eventually, they were given their pay raise and what happened? The city had to cut it from other things. Sure, we have well paid bus drivers, now. but now our potholes are larger, efforts to fix these potholes only last a few years then the roads are a mess again, education got cut, and as far as I know, public services took a hit as well.

Unions were originally good things. They protected workers and ensured fair and equal wages. However, at least the teacher's unions and the Teamsters are both toxic entities. I don't know if that applies to all unions, but they certainly soured my opinions of them.

crapitalism IS the problem.

You haven't been paying attention to REALITY have you.

Capitalism is the system by which man benefits at the expense of his fellow man. Socialism is the opposite.

No Capitalism is not the problem, a lack of responsibility for actions taken with power is the problem. Don't be fooled by 'isms waved on flags as the bad guy. The bad guy, is a guy or woman that wants all the power and none of the responsibility and will distract you with flags and causes.

Until power and the responsibility for that power are mated together forever we will have issues.

Hold the political feet to the fire, and if they burn, so be it.

I hid my comment because you said it better than I could have, so I'll just add my support. ^_^

NOPE.

socialism IS just a different form of crapitalism. BOTH require an enslavement to money and greed. we HAVE a socialistic system now.

Don't believe me?

How MANY companies get subsidies to NOT do something?

How many times is JUST corn subsidized (I'm not sure, last time I heard it was subsidized 4 different ways...can't confirm that tho...)

How many times have big companies been given govt money.

How many companies deliver things to the govt over charged and beyond deadline.

crapitalism is a slave system defined by greed and laziness.

The flaws you listed are a result of socialism, cronyism, and sheer stupidity, all contaminating capitalism. Nothing is perfect, however, and a pure capitalist system would indeed be a bad thing, but I'd rather it lean heavily towards capitalism than towards socialism or anarchy.

However, I can't help but notice something. We are seriously off topic. The issue is that gun control should mean keeping both hands on your firearm and little else.

WHAT part of socialism IS crapitalism do you NOT understand.

ANY SYSTEM USING SLAVERY FOR MONEY IS CRAPITALISM.

And that is why we must keep our weapons.

I can never figure out Karno. Is he for the 2A, or is he not for it?

Oh, and Beto, everyone now calls him Robert Francis O'Rourke, or Bobby O'Rourke.

Better yet, with an Irish accent, me bucko.

OH! DAMN!

That's BEAUTIFUL!

A slight update regarding Mr O'Rourke. Per his AMA on Reddit where he graciously explained his position he doesn't actually intend to 'take' your AR-15, rather conduct a mandatory buy back, Which according to him will be trivial since he has met 'countless' owners who have assured him that they are more than happy to give them up and understand that there is no reason to own them in the first place.

https://i.redd.it/duxg06h9wsn31.png

Betcha they couldn't be counted on the fingers of one paw.

I can think of ten reasons to own one...

https://youtu.be/ddn_-ViPW9o

Considering that this is the same individual who held a rally at Kent State and railed against civilian ownership of 'weapons of war' and gun violence, I recon he may have sadly misunderstood people when they responded to his mandatory buy back proposal with: "COME AND TAKE IT!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdT-oD_oO74

"Molon Labe"

http://www.rhjunior.com/eng/wp-cont.....-Tuck-0006.gif

I love it! XD

Beto? Forget him, his chances of becoming El Presidenta are about the4 same as the Sun turning into a giant alien star-ship and blasting off for the Mormon home planet.

Meanwhile, here in Texas, openly carrying a sword has been legal for over a year now.

Well, I dun wanna be the guy who brings a sword to the shootout.

Leave it to an immigrant to better appreciate America's values as compared to these treasonous gun control freaks.

The (legal) immigrant had to earn their place; those born here tend to assume they'll always have the place they want.

Yikes, I wouldn't expect Karno to react that strongly given his aortic family history.

But 2A guys - a cartoon is a cartoon, but I wouldn't recommend even *hinting* of reacting like that in real life. Aside from whether it's a good look or not, if you believe Beto is serious, don't validate and play into the strategy in raising the question of who can appear to be trustworthy with such an item and giving you enough rope to hang yourselves.

relax angry man. the army and cops have better things to do with their time than enforce a policy that'll likely get an injunction from scotus

Like the (imported from CA, granted) Nat'l Guard after Hurricane Katrina that confiscated firearms from NoLa residents?

Less sarcastically, I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure. especially not since there hasn't been any backlash (or none I've seen, anyway) about the police enforcing so-called "red flag" laws where they exist which have resulted in a lot of people having their weapons confiscated on anonymous complaints of dubious (at best) veracity. In one case in Maryland, it even resulted in a gun owner being killed, IIRC because of a RF complaint that was filed by someone who later admitted that he did it because of a political dispute with the victim.

In short, "the cops aren't coming for your guns" doesn't sound quite as comforting nowadays.

make sure to add Detroit during the watts riots to that list.

if somehow it got past an injunction a federal ban would likely snowball into civil unrest at worst and lots of guns being lost in boating accidents at best. at the end of the day the cops trying to come for your guns federally wouldn't end well for the gun grabbers or the cops. also I forget where I heard it but some police departments in new york actually refuse to enforce a weapons ban from the state because it wastes too much police time.

*places ear phones over Red's ears* "Murder would ensure our patriotic Icelander would become a murderer. And criminals aren't even allowed to purchase bb-guns"
They can TRY to take your weapon. If it's been legally purchased, unless they're going to shell out the cost of purchase, including taxes to purchase it from you? They have no legal right.
And good luck enforcing that!

RELEASE THE KARNO!

I've got one up on you lot: I actually *know* Elizabeth Warren. I had the _______ for contract law at Penn Law. I don't want that _____ anywhere NEAR power.

C'mon, Tell us how you REALLY feel about Fauxcahontas.

How?...I mean--UGH!

RELEASE THE KARNO!!

Release the Karno!

Now let's take a look at the iron clad contract called the United States Constitution. Sadly our politicians have been running roughshod over the Constitution for ages,period!

The Violation of your oath of service or office is an act of treason so why don't we go after our politicians for their violation of their oath of office and their acts of treason.

What one crime in our country has no right to appeal? The answer is treason.

Let go. Ghodd made soap.

It’s not the end of the world, we still have our other rifles, right?

Not for long. It's the camel's nose in the tent, or the slippery slope. The liberal gun grabbers will not be satisfied until they've banned all the guns. Thinking otherwise is fooling yourself.

You are correct. If they are allowed to target 1 gun, the liberal loons won't stop until they have all the guns and only criminals will have guns. Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in America, and it's plagued with gun violence since criminals do not care about gun laws.

its called the Cake pan theory.

Anti-gunners want a slice of cake and get it, Demand something else banned, another slice, another few more banned, more slices gone. Soon they have no more cake left but the crumbs.

Then they want the crumbs...then the whole pan.

Right now theres many slices of cake gone and the majority of dems are saying "Oh we aren't going to take away your 2nd amendment rights." But they want more cake.

No guns from which more than one shot can be discharged.

Next year they'll come for those. And the criminals still won't care.

No guns from which more than one shot can be discharged.

Per tenth of a second ...

Tell them to prove that's all we need by having their bodyguards only carry one-shot weapons - yeah, they think the rules won't mean their security because they be special ...

Tell ya what, I'll downgrade to the highest thing the cops are allowed to play with - yes, those swat cops ...

If the cops think they need that much firepower to go up against the 'bad people' then so does everybody else.

Hrmn...the minigun is technically a single shot/bbl weapon...

*Evil Grin!*

Yup, yup, yup. It's technically a Gatling gun, which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (sounds like a redneck picnic, who's bringing the chips?) has determined is not a machine gun.

Careful 'bout askin' fer 'chips' at red neck fests...I saw a report about the cow chip flingin' contest...Ewww

*Eyes Roll*

The trolls will be on this inna second.

For some obscene reason they seem dead set on saying the "slippery slope" has been "debunked"...

have these idiots not seen ANY history?

THOSE are the filthy trolls that piss me off the most...

SIGH...

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.^{--George Santayana}

Absolutely not. The Liberals will never be satisfied. As soon as they get what they want, they will -- and do -- set their sites higher and start claiming that banning the next perceived evil will make life perfect.

Those who fail history's lessons are doomed to repeat them...in summer school...*Smirk*

I'd like to ban 'liberals' but I'm a free speach(sic) ABSOLUTIST...Yes I take the personal responsibility...

And we all know we can't legislate stupid...(we keep electing them...)

so I'm afraid we'll have to suffer the fools till we're allowed to proactively hand out Darwin awards...

I wonder if the Liberals would pass a law permitting retroactive abortions?

Maybe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkhfM1QZe9g

"There is no slippery slope!"

If just we wait a few years -- and act as enablers -- they'll kill themselves off!

Incrementalism is a thing.

As it currently stands, "shall not be infringed" has been very infringed over the decades, but it didn't start all at once. The gun grabbers have been taking little nibbles here and there of the "gun rights" cake, each time justifying it as being only a minor inconvenience.

Based on the historical record there will never come a point where those calling for more gun control will say "yeah, we can stop there", and often if you can catch them off-camera or find them convinced that they won't be called on it they'll even say yes they are going to take your guns.

Even if I'm not likely to need much of what's been taken away over the years, I WANT MY CAKE BACK, DAMMIT!

To all you idiots who trust the U.S. Government: yeah, David Koresh was a scumbag, but what the Clintons did to him and his people was simply mass murder. I don't think Randy Weaver is someone I would particularly want as a neighbor, but a BATF agent had him badgered him to cut the barrels on two shotguns. That's sufficient excuse for federal agents to murder his wife and son. Yep, them bad old gun nuts caused all of this.

Icelandic Beanpole....

Yeah, saying "As soon as I have the power, I'm gonna Waco your ignorant peasant asses" is NOT a winning strategy. Beta O'Cuck will never be president. But yes, I thank him for coming right out with what Beta's colleagues are too smart to state openly.

You and I watched Waco happen on live TV. Showing what could happen if power goes too far.

Beto's comment, and more disturbingly, the loud cheers erupting from the audience was eye opening. You know a few of the clown show on stage winced at the comment, the rest were thinking "Man I'm glad that wasn't me who said that!", And maybe a couple were thinking "I wished I said that!"

But the seeds have been planted now openly. It all depends what kind of crop comes up this next year.

And I had my own 'potential Waco' on my doorstep in Northern Ireland for 25 years during the Troubles; I've seen what could happen if both weapons and militancy are driven underground. And it could still happen again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Um, technically it's pretty much impossible for Beto to be a cuckold. That's kind of his thing.

Oh wait, I'm thinking of Mayor Pete, aren't I.

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS.

You do not get it do you.

We are hard to the core.

You only get my rifle when YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS.

Nothing short of that will happen.

Liberals think we are kidding about this.

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!

You sound nice.

Read my other comments mate, I do get it.

Plus it's not for me as a Brit for my culture to look down upon yours. We have different histories.

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!

This tally begins Aug. 1, 1966, when a student sniper fired down on passersby from the observation deck of a clock tower at the University of Texas.

...

1,211

Source:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap.....gs-in-america/

While a smaller number than many are led to believe, still a sad number to look at.

This is from the Washington Post. It has little more credibility than Buzzfeed or The National Inquirer or any other tabloid with clickbait on YouTube or a private shelf near the checkout stand at supermarkets that never holds more than five copies, because nobody reads it.

Tell them you don't have any guns. Just a High Velocity Projectile Mover. If they ask to prove it, take them to a range, tell them to stand on the X-mark, show them the Projectile, take twenty paces from them... Then shoot a watermellon down range :p

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/beto-is-a-furry
https://www.motherjones.com/politic.....-and-a-onesie/

so...beto IS one of the sheep...

Holy shit!!

We are practically at the White House!!!🤪

They may take the AR-15, but they will have to pry the AR-10 from my cold dead hands.

Wouldn't Red be shorter compared to Karno?

The fake taco has reinvented his campaign at least 3 times and is now desperate enough to scream idiotic things the rest of the party wouldn't say out loud. He's become the emo fake taco.

As for the lil' turd that bought his way into Harvard... he doesn't exist in my universe. He's a zero to the left. He's the 3 day old doggy do stuck under a tire.

"second, that social media and its effect on traditional media have now made it impossible to deplatform the lunatic, the self-righteous and the extremist..."

Best sentence on the page, and sadly totally accurate. There are people now who can run their mouths to millions of people who. before the days of the internet and social media, would've been rightly and totally ignored by anyone with even a modicum of sense and intelligence.

Beto is a second class sheep herder who relies on a completely moronic public to follow his ass kissing platform!

Then again he might be milking 🥛 morons for money!🤣

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

I certainly don't. That's how we got Trump.