Yo, this is what I like to see! Fuck anyone who says you should keep your politics out of your art. Excellent piece, too; got a lot of emotion.

Art is politics, after all.

Here here!

I politely disagree. Even art that is apolitical has a political element in the choice to avoid politics for whatever reason.

Preach about those who want to control what you draw. More power to you, and more power to us and those who need it more.

Fuck yes. This is awesome art <3

So ACAB is an acronym I am not familiar with yet; outside of seeing it here and there. What does it stand for?

All cops are bastards, it's an older one

Grazie mille! I honestly never would have put that one together on my own.

Ahh, if only I could afford to comm something like this on my own foxxo. Courier Six would not stand for this shit either. She singlehandedly fuckerated the Legion in the name of protecting innocent people from the same sort of prejudices, after all.

1312 <3

Freedom of Speech..... love AMERICA.

Am I the only one that's never heard of "Juneteenth" before today?

Trust me, it aint new. White people are just learning about it now.

I grew up in South Florida and knew about it, but that was also a very diverse, multicultural area and I’m grateful for that. Lots of holidays noticed. Jan 1st wasn’t just New Years Day, but also Haitian Independence Day, when Haitians threw off French colonial rule and renamed the country.

"Keep your politics out of my porn"? What kind of self-entitled fuckin twat even says that? God damn that makes my heart race and not in the happy way.

The kind here for porn. and not BLM lol

Except it's not "their porn". Fuck off with that kind of mentality.

Seconded.

It might be difficult with only a few brain cells, but there is this thing you can do where you can.. not click on something you don't actually want to look at. Saves people the trouble of reading retarded comments, and you the trouble of seeing things you don't wanna see.

So much sodium in your diet :'D
Edit: Feel free to continue refreshing this post to raise your blood pressure further but I'm definitely done replying to your unstable ass. Lmfao

He blocked me, so I can't even respond to what he says lol. Yeah he's just mad salty for me speaking the tru tru

yeah, and this is why the furry fandom is so toxic. people can't have opinions that are slightly different than yours lol.

Sorry there is a real world we gotta deal with, lmao. You can stay in your suburb while real work has to be done.

>this is why the furry fandom is toxic
> iM HERE TO SEE DICKS NOT OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS HOW DARE YOU NOT DRAW DINGLES FOR MY PLEASURE

bro you're the one being a toxic fuck.

^^^

Funny how y'all's intentionally vague "different opinions" always translate to "I think black people are less human than I am."

lol pissy whining about being blocked. Dude, we don't wait to see if this bag of kitchen garbage is going to be the first one to ever not smell before we throw it in the bin.

The fact he responded to my comment without me directly replying to him speaks wonders to me.
That leads me to believe he's sitting there spamming f5 looking for a reason to get pissy...
Some people just have too much time on their hands I guess.
Just for the record, I'm down with the whole BLM thing. I'm just having a laugh.

Bye bye :> glad I won't have to hear from you anymore. And that ^ is to keep your filth out of my own inbox as well.

lol you're so embarrassed by what you wrote the first time. Please be less tantrumy going forward when you can't control people, and less insecure about your (ir)rationality. lmfao deer must flock to you.

As much as I agree with your sympathies. It's not possible to unsee something, as you have to see something to recognize if you wanted to see it or not. I'll never understand people who say this.
However, seeing an image about politics; as opposed to some heavily fetishized image that might make your stomach turn, shouldn't force feelings of someone wanting to unsee it, just move along.
If it does make one feel unwanted things, maybe they should get that looked at, instead of attacking internet strangers.
Finally, this isn't even a political issue. It's a goddamned human rights issue.

Alot of emotion in this one too~
Great job!!

I come here to avoid politics, and escape this harsh world we live in, not be bathed the Propaganda. Sad to see another great artist who is blind to it. Oh well.

Rest in piss, nerd.

Black Lives Matter isn't politics. It's human rights, it's people whose lives are actively at risk, and people who are prejudiced against every day.
This isn't politics, it's human fucking decency.
If you don't agree, get out.

Preach

Everything is politics. Even a statement like, I dunno, ‘I like cake’ is political when you ask whether it’s vegan or not and how the ingredients were procured (fair trade etc.), so human rights and how to protect them through publicly funded organizations is most definitely a political question.
That said, Sal’s politics are good.

Wow you're a tool.

Lol 'I came here to avoid politics' then unfollow me and move on.

Ew, already did kiddo. Social justice warriors are nothing but scum on this earth

ew, thanks for the compliment.

The SJWs are coming to take your toothbrush whitey. Better start living off the grid

I get that you don't like to look at this kinda stuff when you're just trying to have a wank.
It's just that this is more important than your feelings right now.

he cant respond he's too busy wanking.

Gee, I’m sure the black community would also love to “escape” and not be profiled and murdered by police and have to be in fear for their lives every time they pass a cop on their way to work or to get groceries or even just to have a walk, bike ride or drive.

its sad to think that people out there exist who thinks the idea that black lives matter and deserve equal justice is propaganda and political

You come here immersed in literally the world. We have people in this community of every race, ethnicity and creed. If you think your comfort and escapism is more important than a part of the community that offers you those things then you need to meditate on where your priorities lie as a person.

Why is it always sergals LMAO

Unfortuately (or not), as someone said above art is often times political. So that's going to always be a risk when you go to an art site.

Then you’re part of the problem.
Turning a blind eye to an important breach of human rights means you might as well not exist or have an opinion in the first place.

lol you think social justice is bad. cringe.

okay egotistical tantrumer who's frightened of knowledge.

Sal you're a fuckin' rock-star for using the skill you've built up to further social justice. Love everything about this

thanks dude. <3

#BlackLivesMatter
#DefundThePolice

What’s with the defund the police? Legit don’t understand that logic. No police service to take care of you after they’re defunded. Who’s gonna stop the crime lol? Most cops will set up their own security firms hire themselves out to businesses and be back in the same job effectively with more freedom than they had in the police service.

There's not really a consensus on what this means exactly. Some people want some funding taken away without actually DISBANDING the police and then have it reallocated to other things like social programs and mental health initiatives. Others actually do want them disbanded. I guess it's up to each person to decide on what they support but I see the first option as being the most likely.

Yeah more logical to reform the system rather than tear it down without a replacement. Just hope it doesn’t go dystopian where the rich get the protection and the poor suffer because of cuts in the police in the wrong areas

It means what it sounds like. Law enforcement receives entirely too much money, money that should be going to health care and education, and they're called in handle problems that they're not trained to handle. Reforming just addresses individual problems and at this point, it's clear that that doesn't work: sensitivity training won't keep out the white supremacists, body cams footage doesn't automatically punish cops who commit hate crimes, the entire system is fear-based (our modern police system is descended from slave-catching, after all). Reform at this point is like making individual repairs to a crumbling house built on a weak foundation: they might give you a little comfort in the short term, but the thing was never safe and won't be unless you do the difficult thing and knock it down so you can build it back up bigger and better (and on a personal level, saying ACAB or Fuck the police are just as ineffective).

Defunding the police means slowly dismantling the old police system and replacing it with one that's community-lead, has less militaristic training and, most importantly, won't just hire anyone. Law enforcement shouldn't be an overpaid service job. It should take just as much work an expertise as working in medicine. Reform is just covering up the bad parts and making them seem like a necessary evil. Defunding the police is accepting that our policing system is out of date and still operates primarily on principals white supremacy.

That's what it means. That's the only thing it means.

Very well said. As someone who wasn't familiar with this thank you for taking the time to post.

No problem! Thank you for listening :)

There's actually a lot of consensus on what this means. The first explanation is exactly the idea behind defunding the police, eviscerate their bloated budgets, which tend to be orders of magnitude higher than only public services including schools and Fire Departments, and reallocate the funds to other social services which are either lacking or need to be created (I.E. Mental Health Crisis Response Teams).

Few communities could function without some type of LE, but literally all communities would benefit to a drastic reduction and reallocation of their budget and insinuated demilitarization (stop giving the PDs MRAPs).

Well there is a group of people that's not insignificant in size that wants them disbanded fully.

Define "not insignificant in size" and compare it to the anarchist movements that always latch on to any civil unrest they cant for the sake of air time. I think you'd find a lot people who want PDs disbanded entirely have wanted that for a long time, they just have bullhorn that works now.

For many people, the police doesnt take care of them in the first place. Its just a money sink

Yep. Law enforcement shouldn’t be any more a business than education and health care.

It might help to give an example for explaining what "defund the police" means.

Here in TN, there was protests for pretty much 24 hour straight to defund the police. Afterwards, we heard how the budget for the state went. Teachers and government workers (which includes those working at the government ran mental hospitals) were not getting a raise this year due to lack of resources. Police services, however, got an increase.

Thing is, we wouldn't need as big of a budget for the police if we invested more on social workers and others who could handle the complications we simple send police officers to handle without them taking the necessary training to properly handle.

You’re on a roll, and I applaud it. Nicely done!

I do marketing and have an eye on social media, and it SUCKS that these names are no longer trending while the killers are still free.

Hope that includes justice for David Dorn, A 77 year old BLACK retired police captain who was shot dead by looters over some TVs.

How many names of innocent black people can you recite who were killed by cops for no reason, especially after racially profiled traffic stops when they were just trying to get their papers out? Because there’s a lot.

One was just almost killed in New Hampshire the other day. Excuse was an inspection sticker...in the middle of a pandemic with stay at home, mind. He asked a question, so they smashed his window and dragged him out of the car. His phone video was running. Cops were not disciplined.

Go away.

So you don't really care do you?
That hastag you show off with pride comes with an asterisk now?

All the killing coming out of this shouldn't happen, you trying to tell me one is justified over others is some sick shit. I watched the video of David Dorn drawing his last breath and it's going to haunt me. How about you go watch it and then tell me his life doesn't matter.

Serious question:

Do you actually care about black lives, or do you care that someone on "the other side" who happens to be black got killed so you can use it as a cudgel against people advocating for human rights?

Sure, justice for David Dorn, a man killed by people who have no legal protection against being arrested for killing someone. Also, justice for the dozens of others who were killed by people who tend to get away with it beacuse they do have legal protection against being arrested for killing someone.

Your whataboutisms only demonstrate your lack of sincerity and your love of state-sanctioned murder. Please grow up, sweetie.

I mean, it's sad that he died. But he signed up for that risk. He also participated in an organization that contributes to the oppression. So, it's sad, but I wouldn't say more so than innocents killed by the police.

So his "black" live doesn't matter.

Not that it doesn't matter, but that there is a bit of a difference between getting hurt with a chosen risk versus non-chosen one.

i dunno how to tell you this, but it's still killing a man. Perhaps it's just obvious, but I get the feeling you don't see officers as humans with families and loved ones, who are just as likely didn't want to die that day, even when they were ready. Like, I am pretty sure the police work has been recorded as the job with highest suicide rates.

Fuck man, my teacher, who opened my eyes to corruption that goes within legal and police work, at the very least treated the police as human.

Also, does BLM means "all" black lives matter in your opinion or there are set rules for whose lives matter more? Just to make sure.

No, it's killing a man and is unfortunate. And yes, BLM means all black lives. But using the death of a black man to say the protests shouldn't happen isn't really okay.

perhaps they should stop if the point of the protest has been lost. The movement is open to killing a guy, the movement is open to excusing such actions, the movement is open to looking the other way for a person of color losing their life because they fall under the "right target" section. You have already came up with a convenient justification why a policeman losing life is a-okay, even though the movement you are supporting is about outrage over tragic loss of life.

The tragedy that has befallen on the African American community is all well and clear. It's just that this one movement whose actions have led to inciting further violence instead of asking peace and a solution ended up raising far too many eyebrows.

All lives matter.

If all lives matter why do inncoent black people keep getting killed? Really big plot hole in your beliefs my dude

All lives CANT matter until black lives matter

Ok. No life matters.

the fuck is your problem.

Total equality achieved if we would recognize that no life matters.

Capitalism already recognizes that and if people wouldn't literally tear the heads off of their masters we'd be worked to death.

Point is you're being contrarian for the sake of it or your just too afraid to be outright racist. "All Lives Matter" is a protest to a protest under the guise of equality and anyone who spouts that shit is blinded by privileged, throwing a narcissistic tantrum because their comfort was disturbed or a racist coward. Which one of those categories do you fall into?

If this statement is true I'm kinda sad about it. It is supposed to be the real goal in the society, All life matter, all humans are equal... But it's sick that these kind of words would be taken by people who would keep the system like it is nowadays...

I also hope that BLM won't be taken over by extremists who'll just want to turn the wheel around and make a new sick system but on the other side of the balance, or peace would never be possible. Hope and strength for a better world.

Boy you are too late for that. BLM has been taken over by the extremists who don't follow MLK's when it started.

You don't know shit about MLK, nor about the civil rights movement.

I mean, MLK was hated and assassinated so not sure your point here...

Don't fall for the narrative that "Black Lives Matter" means "other lives don't matter" thats being pushed by the same people I mentioned above.

Easiest dismissal of "All lives matter" is that if black lives can be taken by police without any accountability or due process, then does our society actually value black lives at all? If they don't then obviously not at all lives matter, if they do then why can they be ended by the state without repercussions for perpetrator?

I acknowledge that and to be fair I'm surprised when I hear interviews from people in the street the word "race" is still used to differ white and black and yellow and other color people.

My main fear is when I compare to another huge and important movment, feminism, which has lost a lot because of the extremists who are not even recognized being feminists at all by the movment... I hope BLM won't suffer the same end than feminism cos it's about time the words "equality" becomes reality

Race will most likely forever be a thing in the U.S. which prides itself on being the melting pot of the entire world - the distinction of race, ethnicity and creeds is important when you want to show how willing you are to receive people from literally everywhere.

Feminism is a great comparision, but the visible movement suffers from not reclaiming the spotlight and the more militant "feminazis" getting "the last word" historically. BUT the more behind the scenes proccess have been making great changes - the neat part of it is most people are feminist, they just aren't aware because of the high jacked message.

BLM has actually retained the narrative fairly well. Even the neo-nazi and pro-police groups note that a lot of the mayhem that might be blamed on the Movement comes from young white men and there's considerable push back from those who are actually protesting most of the time (though they use this same fact to insert agent provocateurs and try to divide the movement).

Your FA profile says you're a gun nut who wants to move to the US or Canada. Stay the hell where you are. The last thing we need is a Brevik wannabe, another Euro neo-nazi coming across the pond, we have enough racists here.

You're not welcome in my country.

Oh? Aren't you a little bit of an xenophobic?

Dude, my friends growing up were Haitian, Seminole, Jamaican, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Guatemalan and a dozen others. If you mean I reject white supremacist neo-nazis that are the shame of Northern Europe, then hell yes.

you don't know a goddamn thing about living in this country. Suck a dick.

Their profile. Gun nut, hunts animals, gallery is all tanks and crap. When that sort is in the Nordic countries as they are, they're usually skinhead trash and the shame of Europe.

Boy you don't even know me.

I don't want to know skinheads. I just know that I'd step in front of a group of threatened refugees to protect them and put you down on your ass for threatening them, because they're better people than you'll ever be.

Go away.

Nuance is completely lost on people like you lol

Sure bud.
http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2016/.....e-extended-cut

That comic has needed to be used so many times, and people still don't get it.

Ok. No life matters.

Then join in the movement that wants to make that sentiment true.

Luke 15.

Learn reasoning skills.

Black live do matter and I will repeat that until it sticks.

Thank you for doing these!

Honestly curious if there's such a thing as political porn

Does the nude photo leak of Trump count?

Hmmmm ... I imagine political art supporting sex workers might count depending on your definition of porn?

You cannot stand for justice while playing apologetics for injustice. That applies to everybody police or otherwise.

BLM can burn. They poisoned their cause the day they decided justice was a call to put "pigs in blankets" or make make worthless excuses for people who torched their own communities out of unchecked emotional spite.

Selective outrage, double standards, and empty virtue signaling cannot and will not ever rid the world of injustice. But it will make a few narcissist people feel good for the approval they get.

Enjoy that ride on the bandwagon you've joined.

It's not a bandwagon. It's a bus with diverse passengers all with a common cause, headed to a hopefully better future, and nobody is made to sit in the back anymore.

Enjoy the taste of that boot.

A bandwagon does not exclude race color or creed. It's supporting a cause, purely for the clique and social brownie points.

You can define empty excuses for police brutality by this, the same way you can define worthless excuses for people who only care about police brutality when it effects people of their own race.

There will be no "better future" when this grade of idiocy is what motivates people to actually give a fuck about injustice in the world.

Enjoy that meaningless pat on the back from furries who think politics in porn is some kind of noteworthy activism.

Oh, fuck off.

So sick of racists like you in this fandom. You’re poison to a society.

I'm curious how many furs who read these comments will accuse me of being toxic or a racist, then run away and hit the block button.

All because BLM rightfully doesn't have my support, for being a movement of stunningly cringy hypocrites.

https://youtu.be/p213G6sgdXE

So what you're saying is that just because some people have taken it too far, everyone that isn't white can burn, their rights can burn, are allowed to be discriminated, and can be treated as subhuman?

That double standard you just mentioned? I don't think you remotely fathom what it means.

As for that approval, I can only point out that I've never given a single fuck about that. I've always spoken up about injustice even if it cost me my own reputation. I just don't give a fuck. I do give a fuck that there's people out there being treated like trash just because they fucking look different. It's called having priorities, and keeping them straight.

"So what you're saying is that just because some people have taken it too far, everyone that isn't white can burn, their rights can burn, are allowed to be discriminated, and can be treated as subhuman?"

Actually, that isn't what I said. Not once, not anywhere. That's a pathetically weak and predictable straw man.

And I highly doubt you gave a shit or even heard about the last time a person who wasn't black was brutally victimized or gunned down (on camera no less) by an incompetent and/or abusive police officer. BLM is practically the embodiment of selective outrage and serious systemic injustice dressed up as a race issue. Their existence and corporate backing is a guarentee that this problem is far, FAR from being addressed or resolved anytime in this century.

True, you probably dont give a fuck. But that's hardly a bragging right for idiots who think they're so stunning and brave for thinking racism is evil, while being utterly complacent to injustice as a threat to everyone.

So if that obvious deduction is not what you said; even though it was heavily implied and there's no way to infer any other point out of your pathetic argument, maybe make an actual point instead of just complaining about everything. You're still enacting the exact same double standards you're whining about.

I'm absolutely sure that I haven't heard about the last time any of that happened. And? I am but an individual who can only hear about things that are being said. And now people are speaking up. Try making a point. You're merely trying to sound like I have no grasp of the situation, but you're just not fathoming how our current society is working, or rather, isn't.
Making another insane argument about how someone else got gunned down by corrupt cops severely misses the entire point of the entire BLM movement. Why? Because it happens more to them. This has been unequivocally proven time and time again in practically all of America.

You know what's for sure not going to help? Me staying quiet. Me being once again utterly complacent so this injustice can continue. So I'll speak up. I'll forever keep speaking up about injustice as long as I breathe, as I have before. I will not remain quiet. Just because you feel like there's some hypocrites out there, that there's people doing this the wrong way, that there's violence among themselves, does not mean it trivializes the actual problem at hand, systemic racism, and a deeply rooted problem in law enforcement.

Oh and before you even think of replying, you lost this argument the moment you went ad hominem. Double standard much? Consider yourself blocked, bigot.

No, we do care about people who weren't black being brutalized by the police. That falls into reigning in their power and such. But we also acknowledge that, in those cases, their skin color does not (most likely) play a role like it does for so many people of color who are hurt.

BLM is specifically about the oppression faced on blacks by a racist system. So of course it's going to focus on that primarily. That's like saying funding for schools is biased because it's not helping a hospital. :/

You being childish, irrational, and dishonest isn't an argument, narcissist.

"Virtue signaling" is a self-defeating term that only demonstrates that the person using it has no sincere principles and imagines, even DEMANDS, that no one else have them either.

I completely agree with your politics, and I personally love seeing this side of you, but I can kinda-sorta get the frustration. These injustices mentioned in this pic are exhausting and overwhelming, and I get people wanting a bit of a break from hearing about them.
But coming in here to callously dictate to you what to post on your own freely accessible page is indicative of a sense of entitlement that’s entirely detached from reality, I mean what the fuck

"I get people wanting a bit of a break from hearing about them"

IMO, DON'T CLICK ON IT.

I'm sure the black community would like a "break" from police brutality and murders, too! They don't get a choice!

And I would like a break from homophobia. It’ll still be there when I distract myself from it but I need a break now and then, you know, and I’m sure black people have their ways to unwind and feel safe as well.

Sure, they can go for a drive and be stopped for being black in too nice a car for them. They can go for a jog and be shot by white racists for being black in their neighborhood.

Come back to me when a cop pulls you over for being gay and points a gun in your face after the profiling stop, for being gay.

You don’t get a participation trophy if your skin is white.

Me: Black female
My Bestie: White Gay male
Guess which one of us would more likely be looked at or stopped because of prejudice. As an ally I rock hard for LGBTQ rights but you're comparing apples to oranges here.

"and I’m sure black people have their ways to unwind and feel safe as well."
Only the Sentinelese have that luxury. Breonna Taylor; killed in her own home, John Crawford: killed while in a walmart, Botham Jean; killed in his own home because a cop 'mistakenly" thought she was in her apartment and he was an intruder. Please don't compare plights with the black experience, and don't assume that we can just clock out of our black time clock and go on a racist free vacation.

Keep it up Sal, imagine how much more serene your surroundings will be once you've blocked all of these awful bigots.

Fuck I keep forgetting how right wing some furs can get. Fuck em'.
Just scrolled through and blocked some complete nobs.
Your art is amazing as always.
BLM
Love you all
keep safe.
<3

Hell yeah, this is badass! Love the emotion in this pic Sal!

Make no mistake~

Your block button doesn't give you the last laugh, but it does prove you're a puerile little coward who cant stomache nuance and can't defend your opinions on their merit.

You know exactly who you are.

God shut up

There's some boots that need polishing. Go tend to those and shut the fuck up.

Sort of like turning off the lights and hiding in the basement when there’s “scary” black people and their allies outside, right?

Who do we know that just did that?

You know, if a whole bunch of apparently generally nice and pleasant people on an art board are calling you an asshole and telling you to shut up already, you’d think you’d take the hint.

Typing like a real INTJ Brainlord here

https://i.imgur.com/4yzkGY2.png

*yoinks that meme*

You are going to find yourself increasingly unwelcome here, turdlicker

Lol becuse furry approval is such a vital part of my life. As far as I'm concerned it's just free salt and irony, from kids who whine about people criticizing their politically charged fetish art, while obsessively blocking anybody who doesnt completely agree with them.

People in echochambers like that love to believe everything revolves around them and their opinions. What a cancerous fandom.

go ahead and get lost then, loser

followup question: what's it like being gay and hating yourself so much that you back right-wing bullshit that would kill you and deny your rights? does the cognitive dissonance keep you up at night? don't bother answering, just stew on that a little while you whine about being an angry boy that no one likes.

Someone linked me this comment and holy fuck am I glad they did.

Well fucking said good sir.

Well, I would love to reply. Unfortunately the furries of FA dont seem to comprehend what the block button actually does. Makes asking questions completely pointless, if you're going to ignore anything said in return.

wow check out that echo chamber of y'all's, nothing but white knighting and virtue signaling in there.

Any circle of friends is an echochamber. I'm sure you've got plenty of your own, which you consider your "group of reasonables", "voices of reason", whatever. Any thing that backs up your opinion is an echo to what you believe in. You're not bringing any arguments to the table, you're just out of arguments that actually makes people outside of your own "ideal group" want to listen

Furthermore, when you announce to the world publicly about someone blocking you, you're contradicting yourself when you imply you don't care about furry approval. If you really didn't care, why would you be drawing any further attention to it.

You're really just bringing tone-deaf, unnecessary commentary to a forum that isn't welcoming it, nor in need of it, then enforcing your own idea that "dis fandum is so st00ped lmao" because people reacted exactly how you expected them to.

You've brought nothing new to the table, you've embarrassed and contradicted yourself for your daily dose of clout, and you keep dismissing people's arguments as "lmao kids r salty" instead of arguing for your case.
You just tossed in your opinion, focused on arguing against the people who insulted you as part of their response, and dismissed the rest as "wow people are crybabies".

Good job. Go be with the people who echo your own opinions. Go enjoy the neverending stream of pornography that had no intention of going away even when Sal posted this, and get upset when people attempt to spread messages that aim to better the world for everyone.
The human race, as a whole, deserves a better world.

Block buttons aren't for "the last laugh." It's about autonomy in deciding who gets your energy and who doesn't. It's about who is allowed in your space and who isn't. It has nothing to do with being a coward or not. People have the right to decide who they engage in and who they wish not to.

Nah just means no one wants to listen to you run your mouth, unlike you we aren't here to get the last laugh

Cringe

JFC you're whiny and entitled.

Sweetie, when we take the trash out to the bin, we don't wait to see if it's going to make an argument for how it doesn't stink.

I'm not one to kink shame but I really don't understand all these bootlickers.

Hell yeah Sal.

Say their names!

Holy shit at the assholes coming out of the woodworks for this and the other one. Disgusting.

Great job once more Sal.

It genuinely baffles me. People come out and attack pics like this on FA saying like "keep your politics out of my porn" among other "complaints." They realize FA isn't explicitly porn yeah? I mean yes you can use it purely for porn, go right ahead, but there's a lot of non-porn stuff here to begin with. Photography, scenery, portraits, you name it. It's an ART site and sometimes political works can be ART. If don't like it, then you can do one of many things. Don't look at the political art. If you do look and don't like it, you can always not comment and move back on to your porn. Or if you just can't live knowing stuff like this exists on FA, then just fucking use a different site.

As for those who just have to comment and attack the artist and/or those commenting in support of the artist, take a piece of wisdom my highschool psychology teacher told me, people don't change unless they want to, don't try to force them to.

Also the fact that this picture isn't remotely porn, but don't tell them that. Their heads might explode or something. Actually go ahead and tell them.

This is upsetting and scary, and that's exactly why I need to fave this.

Oh, and I stand by your right to post something political when the issue's this important.

This is a beautiful pic! I love all them pins too.

hell yeah

+watch. I am here for this riot!



#BLM

When I get paid I gotta comm you for something like this. Your BLM stuff is fantastic and we need more content for it in the furry community

I guess it's no surprise to see the racists and bigots come out of the woodwork when their precious prejudiced status quo is threatened by human rights activists.

Love the art and the message, Sal!

I like the nuanced hottakes of people lumping in rioters in the George Floyd protests to excuse dismissing them all, but all the examples of cops killing unarmed black people and displays of unmitigated sadism during the protests aren't enough to tarnish all cops.

If the images of rioters are enough to dismiss the concerns of BLM in its entirety, then footage of cops murdering black people and brutalising protesters is enough to conclude the police are irredeemable. Fairs' fair.

I think everyone has a right to vice their opinion. But I think you should keep an open mind and believe that not all cops are bastards. I used to volunteer at the local police station and I can tell you, they are a bunch of really good people. Spending their weekend time without getting paid, helping out to fix our community. I also remembered that the cops would buy everyone launch after volunteer work was done. (With their own hard earned money, and keep in mind that there was roughly around 30 people) It really warmed my heart seeing that. What I'm trying to say is that at the end of the day, they are just humans like us. Like in every group, there are good and bad apples.

The aphorism is "one bad apple spoils the barrel". It's based in science. If you do not immediately remove a rotting apple from the bushel, barrel or container the apples are in, the mold spores or gases it gives off will cause the other apples to rot quicker.

The other cops dd not stop the one who was kneeling on George Floyd. Other cops never stop bad cops from doing harm. And that's the problem.

Quick question with this one: "I used to volunteer at the local police station and I can tell you, they are a bunch of really good people." Are you white? Because if so, you are not getting the same experience.

I'm Hispanic. But there where different ethnicities/races there. Black, Asian, Mexican, White. Everyone is welcomed and everyone is treated the same. They treated us like family. But yeah, I agree. There is no excuse to why no one said a thing when they where kneeling on George Floyds neck. And yeah, I think cops should speak up more when something wrong is happening. But I just want people to know that not everyone who is a cop is disgusting and evil like that. Like I said, I've worked with them and I know there are good people who are cops.

"Other cops never stop bad cops from doing harm. And that's the problem." I've heard of situations where when a cop does attempt to expose corruption within their department they're often abused to the point that they're forced to transfer or resign. I think of Christopher Dorner when I bring this up. I absolutely agree with you about they not stopping bad cops when these things happen, I wonder though, as someone who has had little interaction with law enforcement, if they're worried about the backlash they'll receive from their fellow policemen and superiors.

While true, the underlying militarization of the police force, lack of sufficient training and use of third party contractors for that training are worth protesting. I have no doubts that there are some good cops, but we cannot allow the police to hold their own responsible when extreme use of force is used inappropriately and people are killed due to prejudice and bigotry. There absolutely needs to be a reallocation of funds, more training and a watchdog group to hold police accountable when they fuck up.

Yeah I agree. I got no problem with more training and I definitely agree that there is no room for prejudice of any kind on the force. I'm not too sure about the reallocation of funds though. Not sure how that will fix the issue.

They have far more toys than they need, military equipment with massive upkeep costs that has no place among "peace officers" without military training, military discipline, or the threat of UCMJ/court martial and dishonorable discharge or even Ft. Leavenworth prison if it's misused. They are also meant to be protecting the citizens, not fighting a battle on American streets. Look up the damage to the homes of innocent people in cities after they get done their Idiocracy-style blazing away while shouting. Shot up cars that insurance will fight them on payout for, rowhouses that look like Swiss cheese, and the occasional family going to a funeral because a "stray round" hit grandpa or a kid in their bedroom, and the cops never answer for it. Ever.

Cops don't need MRAPs, Bearcats, massively overpowered weapons for urban settings and they should not ever be military in appearance. They should be limited to special circumstances basic, effective armor in police blue only, and the entire expensive "no knock raid" model that has resulted in the deaths of more members of the black community than any other must be abandoned NOW. Return to stakeouts and quietly following a suspect to a safe location to be apprehended. They hate it because they get bored. They'd rather do the adrenaline rush of flashbangs and shouting and shooting, and never answer for those they murder in doing so.

Take it all back. All the toys. Return the police to how they used to be over half a century ago. And there's your reallocation of funds. Defund the police.

Definitely, not all cops are bad people individually. But it's a bad organization. Often the good ones can get tainted or pushed out (sometimes by force). But it's more that the system appeals to bad people and can allow them to do bad things.

The thing about bad apples is, as the saying goes, it spoils the whole batch. We need the good cops to participate and try to weed out the bad ones. But it's hard when the system itself supports the bad ones.

So it's like having good apples and bad apples. The bad apples can spoil the good ones. And it's worse if they're all in a moldy bucket anyways.

Also, that analogy could just as well work for the bad apples in the movement, if you are not careful. I mean, especially for the movement, whose entire deal is to carry a idea and unified voice. But if the loudest and most prominent voices call for dubious actions, you get appropriate reaction. Again, the example is "defunding the police" as a phrase that is common in these protest, which managed to be too vague for many people, causing more extremism interpretation to take over. On top of that, it doesn't exactly give appropriate solution: cut funding, you reduce police force until it becomes useless, and then in turn, force police heads to cut corners and get even cheaper/less qualified people and give them crappier equipment. If you want to fix it, then you'll have to drop the "defund" part cause that's ruining the necessary message you may be trying to make.

"bad apples in the movement" aren't given government authority to do virtually whatever they please at gunpoint. They face consequences. Cops largely do not.

Except those bad apples end up turning your attempts to fix things into bigger messes and force a solution that doesn't resolve the problem. Cops do not face consequences thanks to unions, not simply thanks to govt authority, as that would require additional spending on bailing people out. If you can't come up with a proper solution, you gonna end up running in circles.

It the bad apples are used as an excuse to ignore the violence against blacks, then people didn't want want to pay attention anyways though.

Majority of people are on the fence, and if the action of those bad apples weren't so bad and prominent that people can ignore them, you might have had a point. But there are countless numbers of people who had lost business, homes and lives. And from even here, there are those who keep saying that MLK quote "violence is the voice of unheard" in order to justify it, instead of actually accepting that yes IT IS fucked up how many innocent bystanders get injured from this.

Naw, I want to cut funding to the police. And I want it followed up by limitations on what they are responsible for so that others, more adequately trained for it, can deal with things. The police force is too wide spread and has become a jack-of-all-trades, master of none where screwing up gets people killed.

You want contradictory things: to have a force without money and resources, but to have them expertly trained.

That's not how finances work.

The police are responsible because others so called "more qualified" don't want to deal with direct confrontations that the police are expected to deal with. You can't be sure that addict won't attack out of nowhere, or that mentally ill won't suddenly get an idea of coming the next day with a weapon. You want, by the similarity of the sound of it, for there to be "social workers" or those who can "prevent" a problem, which is highly unlikely. There are no possible way to prevent every problem, and he'll, some science fiction novels delved into idea of prevention cause of how complicated it is as a concept.

Death of the victims is tragic, but the policeman is also one of the jobs with highest fatalities on themselves. This is a dangerous job, and the few cases that end in death is bad (which by the way, is still most of the time won't end in death), and should be called out. But your solution isn't about fixin the problem here, it is to throw a new coat of paint over the mold and expect it not to eat at the wood (whose to say more qualified people won't be worse at that?).

Not contradictory. I don't think the police can be adeuqately trained for the all the situations they are currently required to do. Hell, we're struggling to have them trained on just gun handling. So yes, I want them to have less money and have their focus more narrowly specialized so that it can be better mastered. And then move that money to resolving issues that the police deal with such as better mental health (for those dealing with addiction and mental health issues), for example.

Social workers and other mental health care workers actually do deal with dangerous people. We're trained to de-escalate and to protect without hurtful ourselves or them. Not always perfect, but it's not as though we're not trained at all on the matter. As compared to pointing a gun and hoping for the best.

And some things can be dealt with ahead of time to prevent the issue from occurring. Not every problem, of course, but many.

And if there's concerned about death of police, this would also help that as well. They get more specialized training instead of expected to handle things they aren't prepared for. That should mean less deaths if anything.

By "gun training" do you mean trying to shoot not to kill? Cause again, I've seen that argument, and let me tell you, the answer has been same - You NEED to shoot at center mass. Yes, that is more likely to kill the target, but trying to shoot at the limbs for example is impractical. You are likely to miss or hit an innocent bystander. Aside from that, trigger discipline and gun parameters are all other elements of "Gun Training", so I have no clue what you mean by "inadequate".

Yes, you probably do. But my guess you still need something to either keep people restrained, take away dangerous weapons and make sure there aren't more than one person who might be dangerous. That means you might have to be given a weapon training too if social worker is to be sent to de-escalate situation, and that will increase the number of "imperfect results". If you think you can just do stuff with words and grappling techniques, I don't think even normal Everyman will get convinced.

That's "hoping for the best", cause that's never 100% guarantee. You still need an option of how to deal with crime once it happens. It's the realistic lesson we were given growing up, "you can't prevent everything".

Again, you still have not cleared the contradiction. You talking about getting better training here and there, but you want to cut funding cause you think they are over exerting themselves. That's not a problem of funding, that's a problem of money handling within the organization. And again, good luck with that since unions will casually take your money, and then start ignoring all your "training" just to keep more money in the pocket.

No, gun training as in training to not be so trigger happy in the first place. People pull out guns while trying to de-escalate without realizing it's the exact opposite of de-escalation. That's like telling someone having a panic attack to calm down, it just makes it worse. If that's part of their training, it's not done to the degree needed clearly.

Depends on the situation. I mostly speak from experience as a mental health nurse. Sometimes I need drugs or, at the very worse, restraints. But if it gets to that last one, it's already seen as a failure because of the potential damage to the patient (at least mentally). At most, out in the field I would see having a tazer or something similar. Something non-leathal. In honesty, the people in this example are much more likely to be victims than aggressors anyways so that would play a large role. People like to go to the violent schizophrenic or violent addict, but that's not really the majority of cases.

Of course we'd need an option to deal with crime. Which is why we still need police, IMO. Just not in the way they are being used now.

Again, this is not a contradiction. You're idea is to spread the money out further in the organization. I'm suggesting taking most money to other organizations to better use. Use what money is left specifically for crime related training, better mental health checks, and background checks. Not for police to deal with things outside their scope because that's the only option just to have them pull a gun on a person. :/

There's a video of a man being allowed to take a simulation of dealing with criminals and he tried his best to not pull a gun out nor shoot the person. He failed the third time, after getting "killed" twice. And note, he had to deal with a person coming after him and trying to wrestle it out. Getting your gun out is the ultimate show of authority and force, which is why it tends to be commonly used and no amount "trigger happy" discipline stops people from approaching it with practicality. Dont forget that tasers and clubs can be just as deadly if forced into a situation by the police, some of which , by the way, has been found in quite few of these popular tragic cases: the persons tries to get away, runs into the cop, holds the weapon out. In each cases previously stated, the gun came out as more preferable. (Also note, situation like Floyd came from incompetence of the cop who didn't use a weapon, and de escalated it satisfyingly enough, but ended up killing him due to malpractice after the de escalation)

Taser can definitely be lethal. Besides that, though, it is highly impractical due to necessity and elements that can render it useless in confrontation (clothing, adrenaline rush). No of course, they would need help, and although I do believe there are far more cases of simply mentally ill aggressors who may need simple help, there are still many more of criminals or stupid people who think they can get away with stuff.

That said, you do agree that police are necessary, to which I am glad to hear.

But I still feel like you are being vague about cutting funding and putting it into new types of training, as if other body or organization should be responsible for that. Majority of criminals aren't poor Joes with bad pasts, they are people who chose wrong paths willingly, and even if unwillingly, aren't some mentally ill/challenged individuals.
And to tie this into the point about Floyd, the cop who killed him had already been reported as completely inadequate due to numerous criticism from the public before the incident. But they kept him, cause unions protect workers.

Sorry I'm being vague about the funding. That's a lot and, to be honest, I'd have to really refresh myself on it. To oversimplify it though, I'd like to see funding placed more in housing, mental health and caseworkers, resources for addiction help, and looking at poverty and education needs. I'd also love to see a massive overhaul of the prison systems in the US from a punishment based system to a rehabilitation system to decrease the number of reoffenses. Many of the things that would cut down crime is largely connected with overall community improvement.

I don't have much to argue against this, though few points:

- Free housing frequently led to creating criminal hideouts or simply ignored by many homeless, specifically those who choose to be one.

- Mental health work has had cases of mistreatment so I need better research on it first.

- Quite a lot of these things are already being given help. A lot of help.

The reality though is that these things take time. And I'd rather follow people who can give me smaller suggestions that can give foreseen results than rather macro projects that always give off "will change the world for better in a snap!" slogans. I'm all for helping, but I need to trust who am I lending my help to first.

Free housing can be abused, yes, but in some smaller scale test runs it showed to cost the city less overall and would keep police from having to chase homeless people out as much.

Oh, it definitely does. I love mental health, but it does have it's own problems unfortunately. I just think they are better equipped to handle that since that's part of their focus anyways.

Fair point, a lot of my suggestions are for making changes to get big shifts done. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of smaller scale situation.

So generally what ACAB means is not that any given cop is evil or irredeemable or whatever. It's that the system is set up to force them to overlook or participate in racism. Those who speak up or whistleblow get pushed out *or worse*.

This thread is an example. There are countless such examples.
https://twitter.com/mobinfiltrator/.....32151142223872

Consider that in a study, 50% of police admitted to overlooking wrongdoings by their fellow officers. FIFTY PERCENT. And people don't like telling on themselves, even anonymously so we know it's higher.

About "good and bad apples": the saying is "One bad apple spoils the bunch". They aren't removing the bad apples. That effs the entire bushel.

Then why have "All" in ACAB if they are not "all"?

Also, that's unions for ya, they keep you safe from firing.

Because all cops benefit from the system and that many good ones end up dead or phased out.

Well, that could have been worded correctly, but allow me to specify:

Why have an acronym "All Cops Are Bad" if as the above said that no, they are not irredimible. And yet here you are, claiming that yes, they ARE all bad. Meaning that this acronym is far too vague and so even your CRITICS are open to imply anything they want to, no?

Also, nice of you to ignore my point on unions.

I didn't look over at your other post about unions, which is why I ignored it.

All cops may not be *meaning* to be bad, but all cops take advantage of a system built unfairly which can imply that they are bad, to put it simply.

Except this post also had me mention unions. And you still ignored answering it.

"Take advantage of the system" is really is an easy way to lump all individuals into fine boxes, hmm? "All males take advantage of the Patriarchy, so even though they are not bad, that man sitting over there doing nothing is just as bad as that serial rapist", "Sure you are an immigrant and came from impoverished background, but your whiteness means you are complicit in the crimes of those 1% of people who had slaves WAYYY back when."

But I am digressing.
The point I made is that the message that ACAB does NOT mean they are irredimible has been proven to be false by you. Thus, ACAB is a TERRIBLE acronym to go by if you want to make a nuanced message.

Ahhh, I had missed the unions comment. Though I still have nothing to add to it.

I mean, yes. Those examples are mostly correct except you are trying to turn them into straw man. If you are in a position of power, and you aren't trying to use that authority to make for a more equal system, you are being complacent and that is not good.

I don't think anyone said that ACAB meant that they were irredeemable though. I mean, it is a job that attracts the worse of people (something that has been true for decades and decades), so there's also that. But many of us wouldn't be fighting for a change if it was hopeless, you know.

You probably have now by the other comment I left. Unions are formed because workers need protection. In good hands it may feel like a blessing, but like many of these cops and other worker groups, they protect scumbags and can turn into money rackets. Ask anyone who worked at Union about that. Note, even if my other arguments fall on deaf ears, do please remember this one in the future, cause many don't really talk about it.

"IF" you in position of power. There are multitudes of cops and organizations and quite few do hold themselves responsible. It feels like a strawman, but many tend to treat those who are perfectly normal and those who are directly responsible for damage equally. When it comes to straightforward cases of organization wholly turning a blind eye, you can have a point. But there may be those who are unaware, afraid for their position or abuse, or simply never been anywhere near those areas.

From Caitian_Meridian:
"So generally what ACAB means is not that any given cop is evil or irredeemable or whatever. It's that the system is set up to force them to overlook or participate in racism. Those who speak up or whistleblow get pushed out *or worse*.

This thread is an example. There are countless such examples.
https://twitter.com/mobinfiltrator/.....142223872";

This person above directly contradicts your ACAB claim. And so do many others, which is why I criticized her for it. As for your "this job attracts worse kind of people for decades" so do nurses, teachers and actors. That still doesn't justify using a slogan that cannot do anything but paint you as aggressively black-and-white.

I do not see how Caitian_Meridian's quote contradicts my own.

And this is the first time I've heard the idea of teachers attracting terrible people. XD

She stated outright that it is about how it is the situation that forces them in bad position and that it is not to mean they are "irredimible". You chose the fact that all are complicit section and transformed it into all are bad. But if they are all complicit and bad, then the idea that it is the situation that pushed majority to be complicit isn't true. Those are the contradictions.

Also yes, they do: pedophiles, molesters, abusers, lazyass people who chose this work cause it's "easy" and don't think they'll get fired. There are many examples of teacher misconducts on the news, it's not that hard to imagine it.

I already said that they aren't irredeemable. It's a mixture. It attracts bad people and those who aren't get forced into a situation where they conform or face consequences. This isn't a contradiction.

Yes, there aren't examples. I'm just saying that I've personally literally never heard that claim about teachers and especially nurses (which is generally rated as one of the most trusted job professions). Which is why I question the idea that it does so either in people's minds or reality.

Nurses are most trusted doesn't mean it it is safe. You are mainly required taking care of your patients, meaning those who enjoy having control over others will most likely to apply. And again, there are quite a few of medical malpractices by nurses.

Fair point.

Sal this is absolutely amazing, keep up the amazing work

"Keep your politics out of my porn" is massively entitled bs. As if every artist on this site exists to please you specifically. Unbefreakinglievable.

Stellar artwork btw!

Are u doing anything to get the scumfuck rightwingnut nazi trash removed form this site seriously just search antifa and u will see some nazi shit fucks that have glorified the shooter that attacked the chop settle protest zone and the nazis defending columbus/lee davis statues or who are against antifa which means their nazi fascists ect ect can someone who is a artist and has power work to get rid of these filth on this site please.

Just use the ticket system to report them. The management has removed several.

Just fantastic! And so many wonderful replies also, wish I could press a Like button for all these pro-BLM folks. <3

This is an amazing picture, and the comments have provided a good source for my blocklist.

WELL DONE. THANK YOU.

So uh..... how far left on the political compass are you willing to draw >_>;;

That depends! I'm at least willing to hear it out~

I'll note you >_>

If ya don't stand for somethin' you'll fall for anything

This is good hopefully an Anthro cover of Lennin's what is to be done book or Trotsky's Our morals not theirs or booth on the cover of in defense of marxism can be drawn as well to motivate true change thats what worked to fight and defeat conservatism and capitalism which are evil this is fact. Also Stalin was the revisionist u anti semite fake communists.

BLM looters have killed innocent people and are putting more in danger thank to the pandemic. The movement itself has made numerous attempts to promote race violence, including canceling stuff like barbecue's that were supposed to connect with the police. Furthermore, they have stood for victims whose actions were dubious, made themselves more caring about the message than action. They also turned ALL LIVES MATTER into a race thing, even when it was started by Hispanic people who called out injustices in their community. Floyd's family has spoken out against looting, but they got ignored. A child got killed by rioters.

The police in America are corrupt, I won't deny it. I also won't deny the legal redoing should be in order (though "Defunding" is an asinine idea promoted by either moronic, spoiled or both, who have no clue what happens when you take away authorities whose presence itself pushes down crime). Police and legal sphere is highly connected with how society is structured, and it should definitely be kept in mind, as many of our biases end in paper. What happened to Floyd and Taylor and many others is a crime that should be punished (and few cases thankfully have been). There are arguments to be made about whether or not race is related at all (like that case with an officer playing a "Simon Says" against a guy), and how maybe race matters less when gender is more indicative of conviction (white dude is more likely to get arrested than a black woman).

In the end though, I will say this...


This is a fucking porn site with occasional pretty art. You are basically selling political art for money in same way someone would have done for boobs. You do you, but this is still mockable.

Quit being a bootlicker defunding police and making police from the local populace and venting to make sure their left wing or leaning is how u fix the situation the cops that are in power are from alt right nazi counties or cities of america BLM has killed no one but their should be soon if the violence against trans black people and any and all left people threatened by nazis and nazi furs keeps up everyone needs to fight back against nazis the way Lennin and Trotsky and Ho chi min and Chavez fought against nazis, so please Ron fuck off. If you make peaceful protest unavailable u make violent revolution inevitable. Hey Salkitten ban the alt righter Rone.appears please thanks.

To Mouse4228:

Please breathe and calm down, sir.

If you want to argue, lay your points out, preferably into notes, and we can have a debate, though I am not interested myself. Also, you kinda blocked me.

So...

You win, and I won't bother, deal?

Deal.

How about u grow a soul their is no debate BLM killed no one but the redneck revolt and not fucking around coalition has in self defense and they need to go on the offensive more much more history has proven the Lennin/trotsky way or Ho chi min and Chavez and Thomas Sarnaka way of revolution works to stop fascism. Their is systemic slow genocide going on against native americans, black, and brown people and it needs to stop so again please fuck off you stupid bootlicker nazifur. No more Nazis all left furs unite to get rid of the nazis fucking up this site!

This is what happens when you don't vaccinate your children. They turn out like this.

While reading this I imagine a tiny dog barking at a vacuum cleaner.

Oh look another andy ngo person that wants to be a pet to nazis Shut up troll nazifur scum. please block these nazifur scum Salkitten.

No

>Wehhh plz debate me mommy said you have to wehhhhh

Considering you don't even want to read what I post, I can tell exactly the type of artist you are.

Anyways, never wanted to debate, goodnight.

He looks like Louie Anderson's son

lol literally who asked you

Dont need to ask for any permission to comment. Especially from a massive nobody bitch like you. Did i upset you? Good. That makes me happy that I've made you upset.

You need to do what you do in real life when someone makes you upset though. Which is go all quiet and look down at your feet, timid mode.

lol you and your 108 pageviews and your 'nice guy' profile are sure showing me what for. wow I better go sit down after that butt kicking you gave awwww.

Are you really using pageviews on FURAFFINITY for bragging rights?
I don't need to make jokes... You do the work for me.. This is amazing.

lol i bet youre jerking off right now

Of course that's the first thing that instantly comes to your mind, undoubtedly an expert at it.

Is this just what you like to do? Is this like your kink? Hanging out in my comments feeling like a big, big boy? Is that what does it for you?
Because I mean, dude, I'll oblige, but I'd rather you just gave me money for it like a normal person. :D

"I was only pretending to be retarted" / 10

aw hon, don't say that word. :(

Coping/10

awww and your mommy said you were a good boy. :( Well, you definitely kicked my little booty in this internet chain. Thanks for the chuckles~ worth the few minutes!

America do not want to get rid of white supremacy that is the problem.

This picture incredibly represents what is happening in the world right now! I read it here https://www.emoovio.com/civil-right.....-participated/ and was horrified. Civil rights are not respected, students go to rallies, no one hears War Protests. After all, both people and animals are equally oppressed by someone from above. Where is the justice?

Gorge Floyd is a criminal so don't talk about that criminal