That is kinda dark

Holy shit!

I get Rain kinda had it coming but violence is NEVER the answer

Disagreed, hard. Diplomatic and peaceful solutions are always preferable but by default violence must always be on the table, as self defense or as a last resort to get a point across.

Well yes, self defense, life and death scenarios. But when it comes to situations like this, if Rain chose to sue Garrett, he’d probably win.

Actually a civil lawsuit based on this situation, unless that damage to the nose required a hospital visit, is unlikely to go anywhere or if it does it'll result in it costing Rain MORE money than he'd get. Assault charges would likely stick though it would be possible to wriggle out through the defense of emotional distress on Garrett's side.

I also disagree with your limitations as well, sometimes to get a significant and important point across to someone being a jackass is to give them a HARD blow upside the head. Note that it would have to be as much of a jackass as the situation in question here, anything more mild would be overkill. A reminder that most species learn through both positive and negative interactions with the negative working quicker and lasting longer on average.

now, i am making this inquiry of you here in total seriousness.
´no facetious nor nefarious intentions here.

is it possible, garret could rightfully make the assertion that rain "assaulted" him first, by way of that presumably-unwanted wrist grab rain did?

(though i am doubtful "self-defense" could be made as the argument here. not that someone like garret, demonstrably larger / stronger than rainier, could {nor would} do so.)

Yes actually. Unwanted contact legally qualifies as assault and possibly battery depending on the strength of the grab.

In a hypothetical if I grabbed your shoulder without permission and without valid reason (say to stop you from getting hit by a car) it'd be assault and you could legally attempt to press charges though there's a solid chance that the would be prosecutor would throw it out.

That makes sense. Though this does make me wonder: in that scenario, what legal recourse would I have, if your having "assaulted" me in this manner offends me so?


It does appear to be true, if Rainier never ... assaulted Garret, Garret likely would have contented himself with walking away. So in that regard,—should it come to it,—the panda could make his argument, Rain's at least partly responsible.

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But.. ..What, then, to do about the:

• possible destruction of property
• loss of property
• potential collateral injury
• potential secondary and tertiary injury
• emotional trauma incurred by those who'd witnessed this brutality

?

Technically the legal recourse you'd have is calling the cops and seeing if one is willing to if nothing else make a report regarding the event in case a repeat happens. Not exactly ideal but it'd set a record of prior incidents.

In regards to all the RESULTS of the TECHNICALLY self defense (though it's easily argued that excessive force was used), Garret would be entirely on the book for the destruction of property and loss of property. The emotional trauma from watching an event is a REAL hard lawsuit to actually win for so that's not likely to happen. And the collateral injury and secondary injuries will be determinant on if he's shown to have used excessive force.

(Your response compels me to theorize, a law enforcement member may be more receptive, if the complainant informs them, that the complainant simply wants to document what occurred: with the additional expectation, expressed, the complainant is fully aware not to expect anything more to happen with this event ... besides maybe, the L.E.M.'s doing whatever they do, to inform the assaulter that the police are currently "on notice" for further incidents.)

Gare-Bear was hell'a excessive.
I guess Garret'd "reasoned," Rain broke my heart? Then I will break his 🅵🆄🅲🅺🅸🅽' 🅽🅾🆂🅴, thus. (´Touchin' me



I acknowledge the rest of your response, and bear no arguments against it, asae.

´Still sucks though, having to witness that kinda thing — especially if you're not used to it, or / and otherwise happen to be of a more delicate constitution.

Most people would concur, Garret did "a bit too much."
As I told , two hard slaps, let off in the heat of one's passion / hatred, is agreeable enough for me.

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Ya know?
I wonder, if will now portray events occurring, from rainier's now being hospitalized with permanent, semi-grave injuries?

That'd be an interesting, realistic, unexpected twist to direct his narrative.

I agree whole heartedly to your statement about witnessing such an event. I know for my grandma it's be horrifying for her to see, meanwhile I'd be more of a 'god damn, that ain't right' kinda response.

Rational responses aren't exactly a thing when utterly enraged though, not for most people is my perspective.

I'm quite curious as well though to see how this plays out.

I thank you for indulging me, asae.



I'd noted your own passion, and your prowess; I arrived to the conclusion, accordingly, you would be willing to lend me your ear.


There has, over my own lifetime, been a fair amount of people I'd wanted to deck (or, if nothing else, die attempting to "deck").
So far, no "deckings" were administered.

Let us find out though, come November, on whether I continue adhering to this paradigm.

Gods, november is going to be a test no matter who wins.

And I do not look forward to it.

Especially-more, if that idiot-in-charge somehow finds himself reëlected.

At the same time, the way the story has been going, go Garret!
A little over the top/violent but kinda necessary

Well, can't say he deserved better.

I'm sorry for Rain, but I am with Garret on this one...

I wanna feel sorry for Rain, but fuck I feel for Garret. Ive been in that same position and trust me, it hurts more than being punched.

I would have knock his ass out too. Tug and pulling on my heart for this long and AFTER you said you love me? Boi finna get his ass B👏E👏A👏T👏

I know rain deserved it in some way. Bit holy cow this was stepping a bit too far. I'm worried if Garret will get called on by the police if someone report this....or if the dad guy hears wind about this... Or his friends. I know there will be alot of character development for Rain but I feel like this isn't one of it that should be deserved as a wake up call. What Garret did was wrong and he let his emotions took over his better judgement.

Rain is learning life the hard way... Hope he'll get the lesson right.

I see you're either sheltered or homophobic. I can really only hope the former. Ya ever see a girl enter hysterics because of a misunderstanding with her boyfriend? that shit's just as nasty.

Garret you can bench Rain.. breh. You ain't gotta uppercut him like dat doe.

Coulda just slapped the hell outta him with those big ass hands.

yeah. i agree with you on that one.
i probably would not have minded much, if garret had let off with two hard slaps.

that big punch..
..was a bit much

maybe there's a reason for this, though

This got bloody...

Finally. That's all I'm saying.

and I oop......

little shit deserves it.

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He did hurt you Garrett but you shouldn't have hurt him either. Rain deserved to be put down verbally and that sticks more. I just hope this doesn't spiral out of control. 😢

Verbal putdowns actually generally have a weaker impact than physical blows. Due to the way most brains on this planet are setup, trauma and negative memories have a longer impact than discomfort. After all language is a very very recient development in our evolutionary cycle, meanwhile instinct has been teaching us and our ancestors to avoid physical pain for literally millions of years.

I honestly don't know who I should feel bad for; Rain because he got punched so brutally hard or Garret because he's been reject by Rain because Rain only wants to be friends and not the next step.

*sips tea*

I've kinda been given a run around before myself and eh, I don't blame Garret too much because emotionally that's how I've felt on the inside when that's happened to me. Though I've learned that sometimes that's life, and you will get lead on sometimes, or someone won't be 100% sure that they don't want you until going all the way for a little bit, and hitting the brakes hard.

oh, i didn't know gare-bear's a 🅻🅴🅵🆃🅸🅴

honestly i have really mixed feelings about this. on one hand im really ticked at Rain because he should be going to therapy to figure out his emotional state and his feeling towards his (former) friend(s) before saying "i love you" when he didnt know if he meant it, but at the same time Garret went way too far, he probably weighs almost twice as much as Rain does, and it's almost all muscle and he just slugged Rain so hard he went toppling over a table. From the amount of blood prevalent he could have easily broken the nose and knocked out a tooth, or even damaged his jaw, that was not justified at all. i know he is hurting, but this could wind up with him arrested depending on the severity of the damage.

Finally someone decked him

I think he over did it this time, but I'd be mad if someone was like "yes... well... no, well, yes um... no?" and so on...

Yas!

And they never talked again. When rain was taken in by ambulance, Garett asked the EMT to hold on a second so he could get close to him, they stupidly listened, and rain got a few punches to the face, with Garett having no remorse for punching him, and then threw The drawing he kept since middle school in a nearby trash can

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
WTF

Aaaaaah. On one hand he sort of deserved it, but on the other he isn't really the only one at fault... and I guess Rain also has a hard time understanding himself completely ... I wonder if therapy, or someone that isn't going to develop romantic feelings for him, can help. Both him and his friends....

I sort of see my self as Rain. We both get easily complacent, having weird measures of naivety and maturity, and have no real grasp on our emotions that might flip at different extremes on the worse of times...

Also... maybe Rain could have given it a little bit of time before jumping off of that bridge, but again emotional extreme.... Sorry for long comment. >.< Love your webcomic!

Wait!
Wasn't this foreshadowed a little while back with Garrett punching a wall and crying in the rain asking himself why tf he did that?

Coulda sworn I've seen that specific artwork.

Oop-