Я играл с другом в Overwatch вечером 22 февраля, а ранним утром 24 февраля наши страны, блядь, воюют! Это пиздец. У меня есть друзья в Украине и мне больно было смотреть в начале всего этого дерьма, как они погружаются в тоску и как у них едет крыша от сирен и от того, что город (Киев) одного друга бомбят. Сраная война. Жаль, что может выйти так, что из-за президента, которого я никогда не выбирал и не любил (а сейчас и вовсе ненавижу его), придется платить кровью тем россиянам, которые против всего этого, а возможно, и не только россиянам и украинцам. Хочется, чтобы этого всего не было, но Путин считает, что его ебаные планы важнее людей...

I can't speak russian, but i used google translate and it seems to make sense.

For what is worth i wish you good luck. https://www.furaffinity.net/view/45633740

Probably only luck will help here, I think.

then i wish you that.

I don't know why you wish me luck... She is needed by my friends and acquaintances in Ukraine. I can only be with them morally and I just want peace.

oh, then google mistranslated stuff... i thought you had friends over there so i wished you luck for your relationships with them and your ability to talk with them again.

Fortunately, I can play with them and communicate. But nothing is over yet...

yup, what was what i was wishing you luck for, apologies for the misunderstanding.

It's ok. :)

^_^

Caw!!!
Рад видеть здравомыслящего фурря!!!
Я сам в шоке: как от ситуации, так и от последствий пропаганды.
Когда началась война, я находился на военной службе в Белгороде за 10км от границы (г. Валуйки). Когда я вернулся оттуда в родную Москву, я надеялся, что весь этот пиздец закончится. Как же я ошибался...
Меня уже достали эти нелюди, у которых мозги телевизором высушило. Притом как в России, так и в Украине.
Ты сам можешь увидеть один из множества нелестных отзывов под моей страничкой. Более того, когда я просто так поддержал украинскую художницу, мне в +Notes некие боты заспамили фотками изрезанных собак с нарисованными на них русскими флагами и надписями на украинском в духе "Ты - следующий!", "Смерть Русне!!!" и т.д.
А в комментах что творилось - не описать. Я так много о себе, своих родственниках и знакомых узнал... Оказывается, я ещё и провокатор, буржуй на Рублевке, и мама моя "по вызову" работает, а батя мой мне вовсе не родной. И всё в таком духе...
Радует, что остались ещё фурря в нашем мире, коих не высосала пропаганда!

Caw!!!
Можно сказать короче:
Народ деградирует полным ходом. А более всего развелось диванных критиков...

Люди бывают разными.

Просто общайся с теми, кто к тебе хорошо относится, а прочих старайся избегать...

Caw!!!
Я по натуре человек неконфликтный, но я уже устал вычищать из лички весь этот "Скам", что без причин на меня свалили. Лично мне было крайне неприятно - на этот день настроение испортили...
И испортили ради чего? Ради чего весь этот срач в комментах?
Ради собственного удовлетворения? Раз так - значит, иди в туалет, передёрни - может, полегчает.
А зачем тогда других людей трогать? Не понимаю...
Хотя, учитывая, что сейчас количество диванных критиков, эксПЕРДов и прочих анонимных личностей развелось столько, что диванов со всей мировой Икеи не хватит...
Я и так общаюсь только с теми, кто более-менее сохраняет адекватность. Все неадекваты улетают в бан.
Но вот ещё какая проблема: как объяснить этим нелюдям с прожжёнными мозгами что обыкновенные люди - люди как люди везде! А всё, что показывают в телеке - лишь иллюзии, созданные правительством для "зомбирования" своего народа.
Мне кажется, нужно просто по федеральным каналам вместо всей этой политоты и проплаченных новостей показывать фильм "1984" по одноимённой книге Джорджа Оруэлла - пользы больше будет...

Caw!!!
А так, глядя на всё, в мире происходящее, я поражаюсь...
Поражаюсь тому, как всё сходится с книгой Оруэлла:
1) Правительства "вымывают" мозги своему народу, при этом вкладывая туда то, что нужно им. Как "2+2=5".
2) У каждой страны политика едина: своя страна - исключительна, чужая страна - отродье и отребье...
3) Любых неугодных правительству лиц государство "тихо убирает". Примеры, я думаю, вам знакомы.
4) По большей части, правительства стран ведут между собой "информационную войну", скармилвая экскремены этих методов гражданам - развивается ненависть к иным государствам и "зомбированный патриотизм".
Мне кажется, всё так и есть...

Хм, а можете со мной своим бан-листом поделиться? Мне на будущее, а то я что-то ошарашен вашими комментами, боязно один процесс запускать.

Caw!!!
Я не сохранил. Там были боты: никнеймы представляли собой рандомый набор цифр и знаков. На их страницах выдавало "Пользователь не найден".
Одним из них был  DragonfromDarkness - достал в личку писать всякий бред про "Рушистов", "Путлера", "Россия - страна терпил" и т.д.

А, ясно, спасибо, буду иметь в виду. Угу, да, он у меня в списке, парочку любителей спорить я уже отфильтровал, и благо раньше, чем они меня увидели.

Caw!!!
А можно ознакомиться с твоим списком?

How often do Philikdikisi's flowing tresses get caught in her joints?

they are magic, so... never 😂

This hits close to home

I'm Russian who is engaged to Ukrainian man, we planned to get married in Ukraine, But first COVID-19 hit. And now this....

I also have distant relatives living there from both sides of family... Hell, I have about 1/4 of Ukrainian blood in myself

I don't know how anything will end...

i wish you luck.

Thank you... i just hope for peace. It will happen sooner or later... 🧡

me too. ( ´･･)ﾉ(._.`)

Блин, мне знакомы эти истории, они связаны с подругой моей подруги и напрямую с моим товарищем. Это всё плохо, мне было больно такое читать и кроме "Пиздец..." я не мог ответить ничего... Я надеюсь на лучших исход для всех нас.

( ´･･)ﾉ(._.`)

Да, надеемся на лучшее...

Страшно и друзей терять. Не говорю про смерть даже. А говорю про то,как многие обозлились, пусть и заслуженно.

Скорее бы все уже закончилось миром... Все войны кончались одинаково

Мы с друзьями не бросаем друг друга из-за этого. Плохо было, когда друга бросали близкие друзья, потому что он украинец, а они русские. У парня и так крыша ехала, что началась война и он может умереть (ему 19 лет), сирены не давали ему спать и он был всегда в напряжении, а в придачу к этому всему еще и предательство друзей. У другого друга родня разорвала все отношения с родственниками из России, потому что те сказали "Да ладно вам, пару дней продлится всё это и всё будет нормально".

༼ つ TnT ༽つ🍀

Эх. Ждём мира.

У самих мозг в раздрае. То, что происходит- ужас. Но отказываться от хороших моментов, что были в истории РФ, СССР, не считаю правильным.


Короче. Пздц и хз как дальше жить

( ´･･)ﾉ(._.`)
i wish i could do more.

good luck. ༼ つ TnT ༽つ🍀

I know lots of russians who are wanting peace with Ukraine, but if they dare speak out in public against this Russia will take action and punish them.

Russian sanctions are already negatively impacting civilian life heavily as well, I think a lot of Russians stand with Ukraine, but the ones that do, are silenced. So if you see a lot more hatred then peace, that may be why.

yup. 😓

Lukashenka and Putin saw and remember what happened in Kyiv in 2014, they are ready for coups, which Lukashenka showed in Minsk 2 years ago. Most Russians support this war because they are zombies and believe what they say on TV. I don’t know what kind of news you had in the West, for all 8 years we have been saying on TV what morons and Nazis are in Ukraine, and in the West in general there are only suckers and Russophobes. I asked friends from Ukraine and they said that their country did not focus on Russia, it did not care about it. Now all this has resulted in the fact that somewhere around 81% of the population of Russia is for the war, of the remaining percentages, about half are indifferent to this, and the other half are against the war. The opposition is too weak to start doing something. I hope for the best outcome for all of us, as far as possible, and I really want the beginning of the Third World War, because then we will all die... Я просто хочу мира, мы с украинцами не были же чужими друг для друга все эти годы...

༼ つ T_T ༽つo(TヘTo)

I was wondering about the detached wings when I saw Honovy's upload. Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate the symbology.

I wish this war to be over as soon as possible, and with Ukraine's borders and sovereignty intact. Too many people have died already in an unnecessary and unjustified war caused by a single corrupt leader's narcissism and greed. I feel for both Ukrainians and all the Russians who never wanted nor support this war.

Best wishes from Hungary!

Good luck with your Orbàn problem, i hope you people can overcome it, it would help a lot too right now. ༼ つ TnT ༽つ🍀💖

Thank you. But sadly, there is nothing we can do. We just had elections a week ago.

All of the opposition parties united together after the last elections and were working for 4 years to challenge him in a historic first, but they could still not stop him from getting an absolute majority once again because of how rigged the system is and how brainwashed his supporters are. Similar to Russia, the government controls all TV and newspapers and presents them with an alternate reality where the EU is evil and the left is trying to infect children with "gay and trans ideology" and Orbán is the good guy "defending Christian values". We call him Mini Putin.

All I can hope for at this point is that the EU will start to sanction him too and that I can get out of this country before it's too late. :(

༼ つ TnT ༽つ🍀💖

Unfortunately, as Zelensky himself said today you have to gulp down the bile and try to reason with the people at war with you is you want to achieve anything diplomatically.

There are ways to appeal to the people who oppose you but telling them they are brainwashed and therefore wrong is exactly how you make them defend their positions the most strongly.

In times of war the first thing to die is empathy, but empathy is exactly what is needed to solve things peacefully.

The only other option is escalation, and when escalating the other party will always feel and declare itself victimized.

One of the most courageous people in the war was Gandhi because he literally went to hug people who were pointing guns and bayonettes at him.

And yes, he still died due to a bullet to the brain, because somebody from his own side did not like the fact that he tolerated muslims too despite winning against the british thanks to his tolerance.

The problem is that hate literally wins when you tell yourself "i do not tolerate this" and you start attacking people for their beliefs.

I am definitively guilty of "not tolerating some stuff", but that's just because i am human. I still recognize when i am wrong.

The problem comes when you have to win an election against a side that you see as "brainwashed" and believe me, you will always fail if you try and reason with them or think that your arguments are "better". That is because the very reasons you found "convincing" are the reasons the other side finds "disgusting".

I suggest watching this video. It talks about anti-vaxxers. But... eh... it's literally the same identical thing for just about any strong belief https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0RCgbywGc

Because, to be fair, empathy literally is: "Okay, but why is this other person thinking in this way?"

And the horseshoe political theory always states that the more you are far removed from "balance" the more you actually have in common with the opposite side. One thinks they "must obviously" be so far https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory yet that is only because one just finds the baseline theories so disgusting.

But "talk about why they like those theories" and keep one's mind open. If one manages to not have a raging fit over their absurdities there is a good chance one can see why they like what they like, and why they diverge so much from one's own views.

And once you know that you can find the leverage you need to try and tell them "but consider this...".

And... yeah you will probably fail, but how much did the majority win? Even if you succeed only 10% of the times... you win the elections.

When I say brainwashed I mean it very literally. Yes, there are people on that side who could be influenced by using a non-confrontational approach. But a very large part of Orbán's voters are elderly and uneducated people who don't have Internet or don't know how to use it, and for the past 10+ years their only source of news and information was TV and newspapers, all of which are pushing 100% propaganda. Again, the 100% is not an exaggeration, it is literally an alternative reality akin to Russian state media. They are not exposed to any non-propaganda sources so when the opposition tries to reach them they sound like the crazy people to them who are talking nonsense that contradicts all news sources that they are aware of. And Orbán focused for the past 10+ years on decisions that make these elderly and uneducated happy: making their utility bills a little less, decreasing prices of basic foods that are staples for them, increasing retirement payments, etc. So they see him as a hero who made their life much better. They only see his "good" side. You will never convince them that their hero and savior is actually a shitty person who is using them.

And this isn't my fight, I'm no politician. My fight is to be a good person, make good art, spread art knowledge and help others learn to become artists. And I'm not staying here and sacrificing my future. Plus, I have my own mental problems and traumas to deal with, talking to homophobes and bigots is the last thing I need and the least useful thing I can do with my time and energy.

That said, I understand your point and I respect it. But it's not my fight.

fairs. I wish you good luck with your work.

(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧🍀💖

Thank you! I wish for a better future for all of us. <3

Alas, but more and more often come across not art and words of support, but numerous death wishes. You can try out of curiosity to enter the word "Ukrain" in the FA search and personally I was shocked by the amount of evil that they write towards the Russians. They also wanted me and my subs dead because of our more peaceful view of the situation. For some reason, many consider these actions normal and approve of them.
This world and the people around are gradually going crazy.

P.S. This drawing is a true work of art. Very beautiful.

My perception was different but then again i have seen both sides getting attacked from each other. The two ukrainians that are currently with me literally told me they were trying to have a game with their friends but one of the russians in their gaming group was literally scared shitless because of the threats she got on instagram and such, so basically they had to "cuddle" the russian which did make some of the ukrainians miffed due to the fact they are still in ukraine and one of them had just heard the air raid siren.

What i mean is... Basically... Yeah. Everybody is angry at each other. But the only one responsible for this is Putin (okay, and the people behind him).

Sadly people tend to generalize, especially when frustrated or angry. To some degree, it's an understandable instinctual reaction but that still doesn't make it right. It's sad that people turn their anger towards those who are not at fault for what is happening.

In such times all we can do is try to look at the situation with empathy for all involved, except those who are actually committing the evil deeds.

i just wish you all luck. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ💖🍀

There is little i can do, but i truly hope things get resolved as soon as possible.

I will give an extremely unpopular opinion on FA that caused me to have a straw man in front of me all the time and my words have been substituted, but since everyone is afraid to voice it and lose the foreign audience, I will have to say it myself. I'm not afraid to say it.

I don't think Putin is to blame for all his sins and I don't like the opposition in our country who spend most of their time just yelling instead of working to improve the country and help people. All politicians who are involved in this war are to blame, not just the Russian government. All those who imposed sanctions on citizens (90% of sanctions are exactly a blow to the economy and ordinary people, not to the government, which everyone likes to talk about). All those who have organized this hunt for Ukrainians and Russians on the Internet. All those who decided to play in Ukraine territory and test their weapons. You say "we need to replace Putin." With whom? Another Putin? No one will ever know what another politician will do and all that will lead to. A forced change of power has always led to mass riots and increased crime, not a prosperous country. Only other countries have prospered when this sort of thing has happened. Think about who would really benefit from what you're talking about. And believe me, it's definitely not the people of Ukraine and Russia. I care about this situation and the people affected. And that's why I'm talking about it. So that there won't be more victims. The only right thing to do is to reconcile people with each other and help each other, not to speculate about blame. Reduce the number of victims, not increase the number of victims and encourage violence. I don't blame people who threaten me and I don't want to hurt them. They are all just caught up in radicalism and propaganda. It's a common phenomenon that I just put up with and don't look for "protection".

I don't like both radical opinions. Because they both turn a blind eye to their own side. They are both insane and are wreaking havoc, not the peace that everyone is so fond of mentioning. And even if one person hears my thoughts correctly, I will be glad.

See my answer to stormengineer above.

😉👍💖

I understand what you are saying.

You have all the rights to be angry.

And that is exactly where they want you.

Because when you are angry at people for doing "bad shit" when you think you have lost and there is no chance of success... when you are even angry at people for even trying to change things.

That is when they win. They want you to be so defeated even trying to think to think you can win angers you because you are tired of fake hopes.

That is how they stay in power. And ... yeah. If anybody succeeds Putin it would be Бoртников. By giving Putin a severe case of saturnitis. Which is why Putin lately makes sure nobody is in the same room as himself. Some joke even when he goes to visit cadavers they put in an empty casket because he is afraid the corpse might be a bomb or somebody faking death.

But tin foil hats and jokes aside. When things are dire... hopelessness gets weaponized by the people who like that things stay like they are.

They make sure you "know" that there is no hope and if there is any hope it will be worse "for sure". That is how they win. They don't need to have the power all the time over everybody. They just need to make sure everybody "knows" that there is no better solution. And that you should stop looking for one.

I don't know where you saw the angry in my words, but okay. This will be the next straw man in my collection.

I will shorten it to a simpler and clearer one: we will figure out for ourselves what to do in our countries. We do not need foreign interference in politics, which has only led to a deterioration of the situation for both (!) sides. You will not get consequences for your words and you are very far away, but I want to live in Russia and I will live here with my relatives and friends. I have never had any problems with life in this country and I want everything to continue to be good in this country. If you want to change the government, change it in your country, and don't tell other countries to do it. Absolutely the entire political world is now rejoicing at what is happening here and supports this discord. Don't become someone who helps sow enmity. It's beneficial for your country, but not for the two of us.

*sigh*

Is reading something in text "a straw man" of course it is. I am (however) not an omniscient being and therefore i only know what is my experience.

I did not try to make you into a straw man, but i do not know you well enough to understand what you mean.

In any case, i did not wish to anger you, just to inspire you.

But your words are showing me what i consider "seething anger" aka "shut up because you do not know any better", which is why i told you the above.

In all honesty i could totally be wrong, feel free to tell me why. But that is just how i read what you wrote.

I am here neither trying to berate your opinion nor try and tell you what you think. I am trying to understand what you said. Because in my life's experience this is what your words mean.

If they mean something different to you i cannot know, because i can only know what i have lived. So i apologize for giving it a meaning consistent to my experiences but not yours.

I use a translator, but even after my check, there will be semantic errors. I'm not mad at you and I never have been. And I wasn't trying to shut you up.

I just want to show you the other side of this situation. People who love their country and don't want to betray it by saying all sorts of nasty things and then leaving this country. It is really very unpleasant for me to see all this, and especially sad because because of these people, others are making far-reaching conclusions that everything is being solved by a change of government and everything is bad for us. We all live in a very difficult and confusing time, in which now the only thing that can be done is not to breed hatred. For which I am really very grateful to you. You were one of the few people who didn't brand me as a "murderer and Putin fan" (I'm not a Putin fan), but at least partially saw my words. I'm also sorry if my words could have sounded bad somewhere.

I too wish to apologize, english is not my native language either.

I did not mean to brand you as anything. As i said i am quite open about the fact that i can be wrong about stuff. If anything all my life has been a "let's get better at this" and "let's get better at this" is just a different way of saying "i'm always wrong".

😂

That said, i understand that foreign people destroying how you live is upsetting, it is even worse when somebody you did not elect caused them to act like that towards you, because they think they are hurting him.

This is why i try and foster empathy among people.

There is not "one truth". And nobody can see everything from all angles.

Thanks again for the kind words in any case, I wish you and your friends a good day :3

yo0u too.

"See my answer to stormengineer above."
"All I can hope for at this point is that the EU will start to sanction him too and that I can get out of this country before it's too late. :("

This person is not going to live here and wants to leave. It's his choice and I won't stop him. But when you say "I'm leaving," this means that you no longer have to speak in place of those who live here. This man no longer lives here in his thoughts. He is not going to accept the consequences of his choice and just runs away to where they have already done well instead of him. I don't respect people who do that.

I understand what you mean but let me put it in a different perspective.

If you tell people "i do not respect you" they will not respect your opinion.

Respect is something that you get more the more you give.

If you tell people that they are inherently wrong and that they are failing because "giving up" and "not trying anymore" is "how one fails" all you get is having people defend their position and never want to discuss that position with you.

Sometimes people plan to leave because that is how they know they will have a better chance at their life.

The two ukrainians i have in my house literally told me today how they feel completely alien here in italy due to how we italians speak to each other.

Sometimes one might want a different place to see if in that different place people act around oneself in a way that allows one to live better.

This is not giving up. This is "trying from a different perspective". I can respect that. I still think that a nation is very big, so one might find the environment one seeks a lot closer to home than one thinks it can be possible.

But... yeah. That's just my opinion.

Yes, as I say - I'm not against people who want to leave. Traveling and changing your place of residence is really cool and I'm happy for the people who can afford it. But it's extremely disrespectful of them to say what we should do here when he leaves and is safe. I feel at this moment as if I have been betrayed. It's as if your friends left Italy and said, "I'm leaving and you guys need to speak Ukrainian, because we feel bad here." You can always say that you want to leave and voice the reasons, but you do not need to dispose of the fates of the people who will stay here.

Meh. One cannot change everything by oneself. And forcing people to do one's bidding is how one gains tyranny.

But not try to change things around oneself so that others can live better... is somewhat like giving up.

I any case i try my best and i hope to inspire people to see things from a different perspective and examine themselves so that maybe they can see how they can be better and how they can help others.

Hope is the last thing to die. But... yes hope is always the last thing that is left inside Pandora's box. And you need to let all the demons and look at them in the face in order to see why hope is important.

Otherwise what you have is a closed box so very tight, under so much under pressure. And filled with festering demons that feed on that hope.

About three years ago, I participated quite a lot in political and social life (related to animal laws). Then I realized that it was impossible to remain myself in politics. And no, you don't become a bad person. You just see things from a different angle. It's really hard to change something quickly and keeping the thoughts that you came with initially. This is one of the reasons why I stopped being an active participant in politics. To change something on a global scale, you need to devote your whole life to improving this life for the people around you. Have you noticed that most of the politicians are old people?

So if someone wants to make the world around them better right now, let them start with themselves and their street before talking about the good for a city and a country. This is the reason why I don't like our opposition. They just shout and waste time and energy on rallies, instead of doing something useful for society. This is the main reason why society did not support them. They just didn't do anything good for them. Although what they did well was to turn young people against the state. I'm sure it won't lead to anything good in the future.

Indeed, if i learned anything is that any change happens at the pace of a glacier.

And all your efforts will only result in a minuscule amount of change.

But... to put it in Galileo's words "and yet it moves".

There is no way anybody can achieve what they wish in a single lifetime.

But that is not to say that achievements are impossible or that one does not achieve anything over a lifetime.

I didn't ask or choose to be born Hungarian just like it wasn't my choice to be born to a dysfunctional family with an alcoholic father who would scream at my mother for hours every few days while I'm crying under a table. I left that household as soon as I could and it was the right decision because I couldn't help the situation - I tried - so the choice was to stay and let my own life also be destroyed, or leave and have a chance for a better life. So I left. And in the same vein, I'll leave this country too.

You are entitled to your opinions, including to disagree with my choice, but you have no grounds to judge me. It's my life, not yours.

I don't think that I should hold my identity as Hungarian higher than my identity as a human being just because I happen to have been born at a certain geographic location. Love for one's own culture is good, but nationalism is another thing. If your national identity is highly important to you, that's fine, it's your choice and I respect it. But it's not my choice. My choice is to be an artist, make good art that people can enjoy (because I believe that way I can make the world a little better each time someone finds something in my art that speaks to them), and eventually contribute to the future of art by creating learning materials and helping others learn to become artists too.

I respect you making your own choices and walking your own path, all I'm asking is that you return the same respect to me.

and that seems a fair request to me.

It turned out to be just a mistranslation.

I am madly sorry for the mistranslation of your original words. I originally saw that you were writing about Russia and being in another country, but now I see that you wrote "as in Russia," not "in Russia. My words are addressed to people who leave Russia (let's say Israel) and then from there tell us in Russia what to do with our country. It seemed to me that you left Russia and are asking for sanctions to be imposed on our country. It seemed to me that you were one of those people.
Again, I apologize for this mistranslation. It has cost me a great deal right now.

I myself suffered a terrible harassment from my own mother and only found peace in another city.

Ah, that makes more sense. No problem, I understand. And I'm sorry that Russians who don't support Putin or the war have to suffer because of this, it is not their fault. I wish that things get better for you.

My friend lives in Kyiv and he told me that his grandmother once approached him and said: "You don't communicate with Russians." He really doesn’t like that his parents make him think that we, his friends from Russia, are his enemies and that he should turn his ass to us because of this, and the West is a friend of their country, although in fact the West don't care about Ukraine. Do not think, please, that I somehow interpret his words, it was all he told me personally.

Everyone is under all kinds of pressure right now, and I sympathize with all those people. Losing your "voice" in this story is scary. I don't know exactly what your friend's situation is right now and I can't put myself in his shoes. Maybe he really should think twice before speak in real life what you have friends in Russia or Ukraine. This is less relevant for Russia, but for those in the war zone, it really is better to be careful. Not everyone is capable of accepting a different point of view now. Even your own relatives sometimes it is better not to say some of your thoughts. On the Internet everything is much safer in this regard, but in life it can have extremely unpleasant consequences. Fortunately, my friends and relatives and I have about the same opinion, which we can discuss calmly. Just don't foster hatred. Including to these relatives, who have their own reasons for speaking ill of Russia now.

I do not support any of the parties in this war, there is something for everyone to answer before the tribunal. I am on the side of my friends and comrades, who are having a hard time now, I always try to support them. My parents believe shit from the TV, I always quarrel with him about this. They know that I have someone to lose in Ukraine, but they do not condemn me for this.

Supporting and helping your friends is really good. I completely agree with your opinion.

The translator failed to convey the essence of the sentence and it was not understood correctly. I mean, I try to MORALLY help them. I promised them that I would be with them until the very end.

༼ つ ◕u◕ ༽つ🍀💖

eh... i have a russian friend right now who went to visit ukrainian friends and got cut off from his house by this thing called "a fucking war".

His mom literally told him "well at least if you get hit by a bomb you die, here we are dying slowly without food". #thanksMom 😂

Another friend of mine literally only still had the russian passport "because bureaucracy" so once the war started the bank of ukraine where he had his funds seized all his money "to support the defense of our nation". #ThanksBank

A different friend of mine got interrogated for 2 days by the Azov because they did not believe she was not a russian spy in mariupol despite having lived for 25 years there.

As i said multiple times... the first victim of war is empathy and makes one see everybody else as "the enemy".

Escalating things is easy, de-escalating requires courage and faith in other people.

Есть два выражения: "Война убивает в человеке всё человеческое" и "Война всё спишет". Если переводчик неправильно переведет, то последнюю фразу можно произнести/написать так: "Война всё спишет со счетов".

yeah i used google translate, i agree.

There are two expressions: "War kills everything human in a person" and "War will write everything off." If the translator does not translate correctly, then the last phrase can be pronounced / written like this: "The war will write everything off."

Одинаково перевел, это хорошо.

still not reliable. 😅

Всё это ужасно, у меня куча родственников в Украине, а теперь им пришлось покинуть свои дома. Ещё совсем недавно люди спокойно жили, у них были планы, а теперь война. Жизнь разделилась на до и после. Когда вся пропаганда последние годы поливала грязью Украину, я всегда выступал за дружбу народов и считал нас братьями. И даже самым радикальным людям говорил хотя бы не считать одно зло оправданием другого. Но видимо на моём веку теперь не будет никакого единства наций. Мне бы хотелось починить то, что было так вероломно сломано, но даже не представляю как.
Да и в России теперь не будет никакого единства, чувствуется тяжёлый раскол в обществе, люди начинают навсегда уезжать из страны, даже некоторые мои друзья. Да и мне здесь делать уже нечего, толпы озлобленных людей, чувствующие свою сопричастность с чем-то масштабным, нашли оправдание своей жестокости, что всегда в них была, в этой войне. И хоть все мои друзья и знакомые ненавидят эту войну, я просто не могу не замечать как огромные массы людей из самых низов, радуясь и улюлюкая, хотят чуть ли не весь мир в труху взорвать. Это в купе с репрессиями удручает и заставляет думать, что эта земля просто проклята и безумные цари и нищие рабы никогда не оставят это место.
Я живу не далеко от крупного военного аэродрома и постоянно слышу как взлетают самолёты, я знаю что там дислоцировались бомбардировщики и каждый раз, когда я слышу этот гул, просто молюсь чтобы никто не погиб.

I used google translate, sorry but i don't speak a single word of russian. 😅

And for what is worth. Good luck. And i hope your prayers reach.... whatever they need to reach. ༼ つ TnT ༽つ🍀💖

Thank you ❤ I would like the war to be over and people to stop dying in this senseless war.

( ´･･)ﾉ(._.`)

The artwork looks stunning. And as a russian, I totally support your way of saying "no" to war.
The only thing I'm a bit unsure about is characters themselves. I mean it'll take much more time to draw them because of how complex they are, not many of the artists are good with mecha-characters and parts. Do you think it's possible for other artists to save the idea but use other characters with same or similar color schemes? Or different ones, but including color schemes via clothes? Many artists would probably accept this challenging flashmob.

oh, i just gave a similar reference to everybody but yeah, if you wish to use other characters feel free. I do have a Poludnitsa character that might work with the whole "wheat field under the sky" but might look a bit too confrontational for a message of peace https://www.furaffinity.net/view/41652523/

Я сам из России. Но у меня есть друг на Украине. Я сам неоднократно ездил туда, бывал в Донецке, в Черкассах, в Киеве, в Житомире, в Севастополе, в Харькове. Я против этой войны. Но российские власти против народа

( ´･･)ﾉ(._.`)

i do not speak russian, but if the autotranslator is correct.,... uh... have a pat

(ノへ￣、) the last thing i need right now is russian propaganda and complete rejection to dialogue.

Hm. How I missed this? Absolutely beautiful work. It's a shame I can't do more for Ukraine now. Only pray for peace. And try to talk with others and show how bad propaganda is.

❤️

It sounds great like typical propaganda.
I will try to explain why this is all a big mistake. Unfortunately, you know nothing about Ukraine and Ukrainians, and in this and other posts you try to "reconcile" us, literally showing that we have a CONFLICT. But if you learned about Ukraine a little earlier than February 24, then you should know where it all started, and it didn't even start in 2014, but much, much earlier. Unfortunately, no, you are trying to reconcile the victim and the rapist, with a message about the "war of politicians". It was an invasion, in 2014 Russian troops entered the territory of Ukraine, Russia did not recognize this, saying that it was the will of the people to "separate" from Ukraine due to "language repression", but NOW they did admit that their fighters were there, that's all the time shouted Ukraine, all the years we were not given the opportunity to introduce peacekeepers to this region only because one state was against it! Guess which one.
And ALL THIS is with the tacit consent of the people of Russia. So most of them were apolitical, saying that they were not interested in politics, but not now when they have to answer for their apoliticalness by fleeing their own country.
This state and its people are genocidating Ukrainians, destroying their homes and families. Putin or Shoigu are not sitting in every tank, these are the same Russians who were in Syria, Ichkeria, Georgia and other countries. Now you are trying to make victims out of murderers. I understand that you have many friends from Russia (me too) and that there are many good artists from Russia, but with these posts you personally make Ukrainians worse, sending the opinion of "not everything is so clear" to the Western audience. Which, I will remind you, helps us not to end up in mass concentration camps, which Russia would arrange for us throughout the territory of Ukraine. So please, grow your eggs and try to read a little more about Ukraine and Ukrainians from non-Russian sources, there you will learn how many times Russia has tried to destroy us, banning our nationality, language and self-awareness. No one should come and free the Russians from "slavery", they should do this themselves, and not silently agree with the actions of their authorities.
As a Ukrainian, this post offends me. We are not children to be "reconcile". It would be better if you made a post about Ukrainians, and not a post with excuses for Russians.

I understand that you may not be doing this for bad reasons, but due to ignorance you are now a "useful idiot" in the hands of Russian propaganda, which entails the possibility of future maneuvers to attack other countries, because Russia should now get in the teeth so much as possible so as not to want to genocide their neighbors anymore. And now Russian propaganda about "sponsoring the war" is being carefully promoted due to the fact that Western countries are trying to help us defend ourselves.

It does not matter whether you listened to Russians or Russified Ukrainians, only the real circumstances of today are important. And today it is such that I am preparing for a hard winter by buying the first necessities, while the Russians live their lives peacefully.

Dude... uhm... how can i explain... i am literally living with ukrainians under my roof, and i hear here you making an assumption where "ideology" = "nation".

Human beings are human beings we are as much divided as we are united.

We can rally under a banner or we can rally under our friends or whatever.

I tried to show that Russia is not as "united" as some propaganda would like to show. Just as much as Ukraine needs to unite better against the invasion.

I've had friends for years who are currently suffering because while being ukrainian and living near Lviv they never learned the ukrainian language properly because ... they never needed and are now being singled out by their compatriots for "speaking like an enemy".

I am not IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM condoning the war started by the russian government. I am just saying "don't make of all russians a single sheaf" Because many do not wish for war in any way, shape or form.

I've had friends working actively against the russian government and some were even arrested, and have not heard from them in months.

I know you mean well... but seriously. Every human being is a single human being, and as long as you see them as "all of part of the same bundle" you are going to hurt innocents as well as the people who deserve it.

Have you heard of collective responsibility? On the example of the Germans in the First and Second World Wars. You won't separate every single German from just the "acts of your government" will you?
The motive of peace is a bad motive in this war, it is better to support the resistance of Ukraine against the invaders, because in your same post I saw more about the protection of innocent Russians than about the protection of Ukrainians. Better to say "Stop invasion or RussiaIsATerroristState".
Such a general impression is made up of your words. Something "in the middle".
Have you ever been to Ukraine? Maybe you are Ukrainian? I think, no. Also, a huge number of Ukrainian collaborators (Those who helped the occupying power, surrendered Ukrainian positions and did everything to help the enemy) flee to Europe talking about the "dictatorship" in Ukraine, so you should not believe the Ukrainians under your roof. It is better to make sure on your own experience and see everything with your own eyes. Just like you shouldn't believe me. But if you want, you can come and see for yourself what kind of "dictatorship" is here, I will provide you with a roof over your head, food and accommodation.

Eh... i know both russians and ukrainians and also ukrainians who are technically still russians, and russians who are technically still ukrainians.

Heck i've seen ukrainians who (for... whatever reason) thought russians were totally right to do what they are doing, which makes me facepalm super hard.

And i've seen russians who went in Ukraine to care for relatives and russians who want to go back in ukraine who are prevented to by the war despite having their everything in there (life, work, family, etc.).

War is never "2 sides". War is always a mess. It would be so much easier if it were "just 2 sides" and they were neatly divided without any kind of overlap.

In the specific case... it's a mess. Zelensky himself made his first speeches about how this is going to break so many families and make a mess because about 1/3 of ukrainians are mixed with russians and nobody even cared to make proper naturalization because it was never a big issue.

Even though you are correct that as long as the russian government stays like it is right now... it's just a matter of time before a 3rd or 4rth or whatever attempt.

And... well... the russian government stays like that because mostly of enforced ignorance and jingoism... and... uh... jingoism is what you are showing which is helping a lot to repel the invasion... but calling ignorance a crime is... eh...

And also... let's not ignore all those who are against the invasion and are technically still russian.

"In the specific case... it's a mess. Zelensky himself made his first speeches about how this is going to break so many families and make a mess because about 1/3 of ukrainians are mixed with russians and nobody even cared to make proper naturalization because it was never a big issue." But why?
Have you wondered why? Have you ever wondered why so many Ukrainians speak Russian and why it is an enemy language for us?

Everything is simply because of age-old repressions, deportations and genocide. Most of the eastern Ukrainian territories were "cleansed" by the occupying Soviet authorities, and later settled by Russians. Also, the Ukrainian language was banned 324 times, while the Russian language was banned NOT ONE time. Almost three hundred years of genocide, famine and extermination of Ukrainians led to the fact that you are now talking about "technically Russian-Ukrainians and vice versa", I repeat that this was not a voluntary mixing but a forced one, for example, how my great-grandfather was taken to Siberia because of his Ukrainian surname. He lived there for 10 years and died in hard labor.
Think why so, instead of looking for gold among the crap.

Let's not ignore the Ukrainians who say that the Russians are fully responsible for the actions of their government, when other nations that do not agree with the actions of the government overthrow them.

Unfortunately, it is our fault that for 30 years we as a nation did not conduct any policy to spread about who we are, so only now do most foreigners find out about us and therefore have such an ambiguous attitude.

Eh... my family went visiting Odessa back in 1997.

And i've been a card carrying communist in my youth so i was constantly reminded by a lot of people what Stalin & C. did to the conquered countries.

Heck Ukraine itself lost so much of its past its very name is now a word that just means "borderlands".

“Heck Ukraine itself lost so much of its past its very name is now a word that just means "borderlands".”
Borderlands? I hear this for the first time.

Come to us again, you will see how modern and developed Ukraine is, especially in the last years before the invasion.

Check the name of your own country and its etymology. Please. Ukraine would not be fighting and winning this war right now if ukraine "sucked". Don't twist my words into meaning what i did not say.

Getting gimped like Ukraine was back in the days when the iron curtain fell does not mean that it did not recover afterwards.

The russian government is still the micromanaging idiotic madness it always was, trying to "win" by telling people what to do. That's why they are losing, because they think "nostalgia" is a winning strategy, Ukraine moved forwards instead.

Have you read not only the Soviet etymology of this word? You probably know that there are two versions, not only "border zone" but also "native land/land".

Among researchers, there is still no consensus on the interpretation of this term. In modern historiography, there are plenty of supporters of both one and the second version.The etymology of this word has not yet been clarified.

«Ukraine would not be fighting and winning this war right now if ukraine "sucked". Don't twist my words into meaning what i did not say» - I didn't say that, you misunderstood my reference of these words.
It was just a polite invitation to visit, not a motive of "backwardness".

Listen... i have been trying to be polite, but until now what you have done is call my ukrainian friends, "conspirators", "propaganda spreaders", "ignorants", "collaborators" and whatnot.

You keep insisting i am ignorant myself which i can almost half understand since i am not living it on my skin.

You keep insisting i should not listen to the people who i worked with to the people i talk each day to and you keep insulting them.

And you started this whole thing because you were "offended" that russians could sympathize with the situation and be themselves against the war.

May i ask WTF is wrong with you and why you keep insulting me and my friends?

I did not attack you personally and instead you keep attacking me and my friends.

I am not saying everybody says the same thing because, let me be honest human beings are human beings so each has a different life experience.

But telling me "this absolutely cannot exist" is just blindingly ignoring statistics. For... what?

Human beings are human beings, the fact that a nation is being attacked does not automagically make everybody inside that nation united and a saint.

I am literally advocating for unity and you are advocating for "let's kick russian speakers in the nards, regardless of nationality, because they are bad people"?!?!

Why are you trying to divide your country which is already struggling against people who want it divided?!?!

Plus... the second meaning you refer to is not even "native land" but "those who advance resolute". And it's a nickname the Polish gave you.

Congratulations, you have literally gone personal, It’s discusstinf to continue communicating with you because you don't even try to hear me, even read the facts. You write literally what I have never written, I don't care what you think and I don't care about your friends, because you are one of those "I have friends in Russia and I really want to sneeze at you".
“The Polish gave us” Ahahah ok
Great, take your 20 rubels

WTF?!?! Why do you keep twisting my words?!

To be fair the ukrainians who live with me told me it could be misinterpreted like you did.

But... i only told them... after i took this initiative. So... yeah.

I don't quite understand what you mean.

Meaning they told me that it would be taken badly by ukrainians.

But they saw that only after i did it.

Ah, got it.

Pls Explain to me the symbol of the wings on the floor, what does it mean? I took it as a symbol of "weapon assembly" because of the unusual design. By the way, your characters are very beautiful.

This picture was commissioned in february it was just a plea to give ukraine the ability to fly and lift the fly ban over its skies, because it was hurting Ukraine's ability to defend itself.

My characters are here depicted windless, their wings on the ground.

My 2 characters here (the gold nightingale bird and blue demon) are the same character.

gold and blue = ukraine.

They normally can never be together (as they share the same body) now they are here because... well... ukraine needs to be united and stop dividing itself into "good and bad guys" based on silly stuff like language spoken or it will be at war with itself instead of with the people who actually support this entire idiocy.

Heck i know russians who are married with ukrainians and were living in russia and are now under scrutiny of their government still trying ways to flee this madness and getting blocked at every passage because they are constantly actively monitored.

It's never pretty. And it's never clean.

Thanks for the clarification.
I still cannot agree with the issue of language, because language is our weapon and it is important. For example, how in occupied cities, the occupying administration immediately permalinks all the signs in Russian and the names of settlements. Burns books in Ukrainian. Language is a weapon. And Russia understands this well.
But I must apologize, I could have been too harsh due to an inflated sense of justice. Unfortunately, this is what happens when a rocket can land on your head every day. :P

Yeah, but many ukrainians simply know russian much better than ukrainian... and they are defending their country.

Similarly there are many russians who are against the war and have been defending ukraine either on the grounds or by fighting their government.

And they know next to zilch ukrainian.

I understand your feelings, but attacking people who don't know ukrainian well enough is just... bad.

Teach ukrainian, that's always a good thing.

Promote comics or literary works in both ukrainian and russian, so that people can learn ukrainian better,

And if people feel bad because they do not know ukrainian do not attack them, but welcome them and teach them your language (unless they are shitheads who support putin).

Censorship is always bad because it's enforced ignorance. Knowledge is what destroys ignorance.

Not much) This is one of the propaganda theses. The last population census in Ukraine was in In 2001, the census of minorities and speakers of languages ​​was also carried out in order to preserve the narrative of the mass of Russian-speaking people. No one ever attacked Russian-speakers and did not oppress them, on the contrary, they artificially made propaganda that Ukrainian is the language of the village and stupid uneducated people, and Russian is for the "elite". By the way, the myth about the division of Ukraine on the language issue is also Russian propaganda :)

Human beings are human beings.

I do not assume people are ALL like that, but saying they are "not all like that" does not mean that people never behave like that at all.

I mean... dude... you were literally saying that very stuff.

And i know several of ukrainians constantly frustrated because they do not know the language of their own country well enough and are constantly being told to shut up and speak their country's language and they don't even live close to the donbass region.

So i'm not "speaking propaganda" as you constantly insist.

I literally speak about what i hear from my friends.

Which are neither pro-russian invasion nor propagandists and are 100% ukrainian.

I'm sorry, but your friends are not a source of truth, they can be a simple relay of propaganda that they have absorbed and retell to you. Friends - this is not an argument. Therefore, as I said, check everything with your own eyes.
Many Ukrainians are also under the influence of Russian propaganda.

The fact that they have a Russian-speaking environment does not mean that many Ukrainians speak Russian. It is not even half according to the old census, and even less today, I think.

So... you are saying that my friends are not getting harrassed and are instead making up stories about getting harrassed because they like spreading invader propaganda?

Because this is starting to become personal, since you keep insulting my friends, who, i'd like to remind you, are just as ukrainian like you are.

You keep saying they are liars and they are propagandists, or (at best) that they are weak willed and believe stuff that is actively hurting them.

You are saying literally what I did not say. I wrote to you to check all the information personally. But you'd better take a friend's word for it than check it yourself. lol I tell you the facts, and you tell me the stories of your friends. However, everything you wrote about here is literally typical Russian propaganda.

No, what you are telling me are not "the facts".

Because the facts means "i went to speak to every person and double checked nobody did that" which is next to impossible and you keep telling me my friends are liars and i should stop listening to them to instead listen to you who... is insulting me and my friends.

If i started insulting you and your friends, telling you you are ignorant all your friends are liars and you should immediately stop listening to them...

...would that make you believe me or would you start defending your friends?

Listen to me I dont care about you and your friends, but don't sneer at the safety of my own country. I brought you facts about the census, about historical events and what is happening right now. I see that you have nothing to answer for that, so you cling to your friends.

I literally never sneered at the safety of your country.

I do totally believe Ukraine should defend itself.

Peace does not come from a conquered country but from the invaders stopping what they are doing.

I never said anything about the facts you declared because that was not what was making me mad.

You literally said i should stop listening to your own compatriots because they are "spreading lies", that is what i was defending myself against.

My friends are ukrainians, but you keep calling them russians. Because of how they speak.

Do i have russian friends?

Yes but they are not these ones i was defending from your hurtful words.

Because they were not the ones telling me anything about what we were talking about.

Whaaa? :D
I keep calling them russian s?? Where? Show me!
I literally say that language is important. Lol
I am telling you that ALL PEOPLE are subjected to propaganda consciously or unconsciously and they can also be wrong and I tell you to check everything on your own experience.

Yes.

You are telling me "my experience is invalid" because it comes from "the wrong specimen".

Reread what you wrote, you told me i sneeze at your country because i "have russian friends". https://www.furaffinity.net/view/46.....#cid:168311680
Reread what you wrote, you told me my ukrainian friends were "collaborators" who "left the country" only to spread misinformation. https://www.furaffinity.net/view/46.....#cid:168308504
Reread what you wrote, you told me my ukrainian friends are brainwashed and therefore they can only be lying about what they are living through. https://www.furaffinity.net/view/46.....#cid:168310820

You seem to speak as if i talk to only 1 or 2 people and not several dozens.

You seem to speak as if i was some random person not double and triple checking my sources.

And i do agree that's not the entirety of the ukrainian population.

But from there leaping to "nobody can live that because that is what russians tell us therefore it can only be lies" seems like a wide stretch. In general russian propaganda is exactly that. Stupid idiocy. That does not mean that no human being can live that situation.

Especially since i'm not talking about people who support this invasion in any way, shape or form.

I NEVER said that ukrainian as a language is anything but something to support, in fact i said the opposite. https://www.furaffinity.net/view/46.....#cid:168310021

Listen... it's almost 3 in the morning here and you keep attacking my friends and your own countrymen and telling them bad stuff because you are triggered.

I don't know what your problem is. But you seem to try and generalize what is all but generalizable. I cannot know if that is true, but since you keep telling me to ignore the people who are suffering to look at a general ideal, and you keep telling me that i am ignoring the situation because you keep looking at wide pictures... that leads me to believe that.

People are suffering because of this war and the invasion must be stopped and repelled and ukraine needs to take back what is its own land. As long as you keep bundling up people with generalizations this cannot happen.

Because taking back a country starts from the edges. And if you cut the edge cases, you limit your own country and what it can take back.

“ And i know several of ukrainians constantly frustrated because they do not know the language of their own country well enough and are constantly being told to shut up and speak their country's language and they don't even live close to the donbass region.”
By the way, this is a vivid example of the fact that you do not know what the language situation is in Ukraine right now.

Personally, all my life I faced the fact that Russian-speakers told me to communicate in "normal human language", or asked from which "village" I came? Now do I have the right to speak out for language oppression in my own country? How good that it was 10 years ago.

“So i'm not "speaking propaganda" as you constantly insist.“
You do :c
Unfortunately, you do not even realize this for one reason or another. But this still does not change the fact that this is propaganda that harms Ukraine.

Dude.... you keep calling my friend liars. And propaganda spreaders. When they are being actively hurt by the very stuff you keep saying "totally does not exist".

My invitation to visit is still valid, come and see for yourself who the truth is. Please, facts first - emotions later. I didn't write about the fact that the experience of your friends is not true, only about the fact that you should check it yourself and not naively take their word for it, it's logical, right? Everything I wrote before was literally ignored by you. In this discussion, you used a lot of Russian narratives, and I still think that you are harming Ukrainians. Propaganda is not always bad, but Russian propaganda harms Ukraine. But I will remind you that the hatred of Ukrainians towards their offenders is a normal reaction of a healthy society. Bye, “dude”.

So. You are now telling me i am insensitive and that i have been doing... what exactly?

Not caring about your country?

Dude, you have been turning a blind eye and a deaf hear to the people who are needlessly suffering because you believe "that can only be propaganda".

I have seen ukrainians who believe the russian propaganda.

I do not care about them.

This is not them. But you keep bundling up in your own narrative telling me to go into a warzone because... i do not speak to enough ukrainians? Or because i do not care about what is happening?

I do know some of that stuff is propaganda. That does not mean some people are not harming other people by unwittingly following said propaganda. And when i speak personal you make a general assumption and when i make a general assumption you keep going into details.

I am trying really hard to be polite here but you keep offending me.

Do you think that the war zone is all over Ukraine? Lol, you didn't even know that, but the majority of Ukraine lives a normal life. We walk to work, to school and for walks. Therefore, everything is calm in most areas. If you don't want to go, watch our news and read our people.
Im trying to be polite too, dude

Dude, why do you keep attacking me personally?

I keep following the war efforts and talking with american diplomats at the jack london geospatial fund, UA soldiers on the spot, and my UA friends on the spot, and you keep insisting that i know nothing.

heck, this is what i stare at all day https://understandingwar.org/sites/.....%20%281%29.png

it's 2 days old because of course we cannot have minute by minute information since that would give away the actual fighters.

So. If i come and visit the pieces of the country not at war right now... what do i gain? That it's a beautiful country to visit? I already know that. I do not consider your country backwards or anything similar to that. But you keep insisting i have this idea.

Heck as far as i am concerned you people have it far better than most countries in the EU and it's maddening that the EU are all doing their best to ignore the whole situation and doing long talks about silly stuff when every single diplomat that visited your country was very clear about the situation and that the invasion needs stopping... ...and their voices get immediately ignored.

So... i should visit what exactly? What would "change my mind"? Actually... what is "my mind" that "needs to be changed"? Because you seem to have a pretty clear idea of how i think.

Indeed, based on the way you answer me. Why this comment about better than in Europe? Dont care. You covered literally everything that I never wrote. Why should you come to see? Because you need to see with your own eyes what is happening here and what is in the minds of people. To see the real situation with language, war and other topics we have touched on. Logically. I was living in Ukraine all of my life, I know what Im talking about.Now you tried to make yourself a victim and me a tyrant. If anybody tell you that you are wrong and justify why, then it is not an "attack". Just read all the messages again and maybe something will come to you. Goodbye

Dude... i never said you were wrong about the situation in ukraine.

I only said you were wrong about calling my friends conspirators, collaborators and whatever else.

I did not try and make myself a victim, i literally told you that you were insulting me and my friends.

If i misunderstood your words, let me know how.

Because you keep telling me i should ignore my friends and come visit your country, but ... if you cut the people from the country... what is left of the country?

What are you fighting for? Gravel dirt and plants? Ukraine is made by its population.

During this entire conversation you kept insulting the people i care about which are your own country.

Telling me i "do not know enough" because i care about what makes your country... your country?

Telling me i should leave behind the people i know to come and meet complete strangers who happen to live differently?

Yeah i could do that. And then what? Should i shun my friends and become friend with the people you like better?

If you are not saying that, then let me understand what you are saying.

Show me where I called Ukrainians Russians only because they speak Russian? No? Just like the rest of your examples. About the collaborators, I wrote that Ukrainians are different and that they MAY turn out to be like that, not that they are your friends personally. If you interview more people, you will have a more objective assessment of the situation than if you interview "a dozen people". But this does not change the fact that your post is Russian propaganda. You are now attacking me, saying that I am insulting you and your friends, although I did not do it. You are harming Ukraine and me personally as a Ukrainian. If you live in a world where there is only your opinion and the opinion of your friends, then it makes no sense for me to respond to these pointless comments And also stop writing to me, I said goodbye to you a long time ago. I will have to block you for annoying messages If u will not stop doing that.

Okay. So:

If i say that i have had this or that experience with my friends and you answer is "there might be collaborators" or "that is propaganda" then to me it means you are implying my friends are collaborators or are spreading propaganda and therefore their real lives cannot exist and they are lying.

If i do not even mention russians and you bring them forwards telling me i sneeze at your country because i do have some russian friends, then to me it means you think my friends i was speaking about must be russians.

If i advocate for peace and you call peace "russian propaganda" despite peace meaning to me: "let's stop the invasion and get back all that was lost" then there is some *deep* misunderstanding.

let me also explain something: when i advocate for peace i am not saying "ukraine should not defend itself"

Ukraine should totally defend and russia should cease hostilities.

I am saying that Ukraine has a huge chunk of russians that live among them who want nothing to do with this invasion and are totally taking up arms for ukraine as well as voluntarily surrendering if they come from the other side.

I am saying that naturalization of what totally have been ukrainian citizen should not face obstacles.

And i am totally saying that it's russia who should stop attacking and that Ukraine should be allowed to defend itself.

What i am saying is not what you got, and i apologize if that is the message you got.

Also: let me be clear. At the time it was important for Ukraine to be allowed to fly to stop the attackers.

My character (Philomela) is a Nightingale. Symbol of Ukraine. She has been deprived of her wings because Ukraine was not allowed to fly (at the time).

The message of peace is not "let's disarm ourselves" but "we stand for peace but we cannot do much without wings".

Similarly the two characters (Philomela and Philekdikisi) are actually the same character. And they are here shown together even though that should not be possible.

Ukraine should stand united, and leave behind all that sectionalism and localism that is currently dividing it.

Thanks for the clarification.
But I still believe that the restoration of the reputation of the Russians should be done by the Russians themselves, after the end of the war.

Welll... that was why i proposed to russians to just gift art with this message.

It was voluntary.

So i never forced anybody to do this for free.

The few who wanted payment asked me to donate their normal fee to welll... humanitary services or pro-ukraine funds.

You know, I lived for a long time on the line of contact, during this time I experienced a lot and the worst thing in my life, this is when you and your family go to bed and everything seems to be fine, everything is quiet, but a couple of seconds pass and a loud arrival will be a child who starts screaming in hysterics and you understand that this night will be without sleep, it’s still not easier in the morning, there is no water and we go to the store for water, we stand in line of dozens of people like us, and we also need to find time to draw because this is the only way income, you can also forget what sleep is, you have it for a couple of hours a day, sometimes you already play games or watch movies so as not to fall asleep because there is no strength left to be afraid to fall asleep and not wake up, at these moments you are more worried not about yourself but for a child who is forced to live in such conditions and break her psyche because of all this, electricity is also a luxury lately and you never know when you are sitting drawing and then "bang" and you did not have time to save the drawing and such "hmmm and when i guarded the drawing for the last time "you say save it more often, but it's just dangerous, I saved the drawing and at that moment the electricity was turned off and my drawing deteriorated and I had to start it all over again, completely anew, recently my windows in my apartment were shattered from another rocket and this moment is unforgettable, believe me, you will probably think that the state will replace the windows for me, but no, we turned to where we could, to which we were answered "at the moment there are no materials" and naturally we bought them and changed them ourselves, I will say right away that our prices for windows are higher than times 2 than usual because of the "deficit" which is essentially not. And flying cruise missiles over the roof is also not very pleasant. Fortunately, my family and I moved to the western part and it is quieter here than in large cities, but the lack of electricity is the same here.
Perhaps there are translation errors somewhere, I used google translator :3

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I hope you can find some peace and that this stupid invasion ends as soon as possible, possibly with you guys getting back what got stolen by Putin and his supporters.

*sigh* trolls be trollin'.