Well, I didn't see that coming.
Brainwashing, and memory was a bit extreme, so I highly dointed she'd do something like that, but yeah, while I understand she's trying to help Nigel, this is like 10 times worse.
And I'm assuming she's going to leave him like this, until he fixes himself up, or begins to see things differently from how he views the world at present.
Either way this experience is definitely going to be a traumatizing one for Nigel, doubly so if he ends meeting the others, minus Tristan, who I'm sure already have a low opinion of him.

I put my money on Nigel now hyper focusing on blaming The-Tree-of-Life even more since she trapped him inside his mind now, even if he sees the visions now with his heart i doubt that will change anything. He probably will blame her even more for not telling him earlier about it and Nigel will just fume even more. Should the plan of TToL be that Nigel is blinded so he has to accept the help of others around him... thats just a bad last minute plan. I can already see Miralle and Chili mocking Nigel for his blindness as a "just punishment" since Miralle is our special sweet little bean that does nothing wrong and is pampered by TToL herself.

Honestly my money's on Nigel failing to see with his heart and just blaming the tree for "yet another wrong" She's done to him by taking his sight. Only to live the rest of his time blinded, fuming, and stuck in his own mind. Until the lord of chaos finds him and makes him one of their nights, such strong hate, suck strong despair.. Would likely prove an asset to the chaos.

Possible or Nigel is even stubborn against the influence of chaos and blaming even that on TToL xD

Memory wiping for clarification.
Also doubted, not dointed, spell check you really suck sometimes.

this is me ALWAYS

did you seriously start with that line?

honestly at this point if I was Nigel I would 100% end up trying to kill either her or myself outta spite. kinda, fucked up but from what Nigel's experienced and the Tree's UTTER failures with him my brain power would be 100% devoted to getting back at her no matter what. And since she is a goddess type being there really one way to hurt her that is available to him. Suicide as a giant middle finger to her and as the final way for him to take control of his life, she can't force any more abuse on you if your dead...

I honestly doubt that is the direction this will go, but as a former theater kid I am unable to resist the idea of such a dark and dramatic twist. Seriously think about it! I do NOT see abusive nature mommy with invasive ideas of how to help taking the news well...and you just KNOW how much that idea would satisfy him.

Nigel is an ass and trashy as hell but he is genuinely a victim. MOFO is Tai Lung (Kung-fu Panda 1) except he's almost getting treated worse! Like ffs at least Tai Lung is a figure of incredible fear and respect. It REALLY seems like nobody even respects Nigel, Not even Nigel...

Oh boy
He’s Freaking out

Oh boy

Direction high probability set for craptown

Imagine one day waking from a good sleep and opening your eyes to nothing.

Now imagine you talking to someone and them MAKING that happen. You'd freak out too.

Ah yes, no way that will backfire and make 'em even more aggravated.

Love the blinding effect here, that's one horrifying sight with the dissolving iris and pupil, but it's so powerful!

powerful and horrifying, yess.

that will backfire SO MUCH.

Holy shit????

Rips heart out of chest and shoves into his eye sockets...

STILL CANT SEE LADY!

Someone didnt pass biology 101

...And here I thought that she was gonna make him see visions of the horror that is about to come, forcing him to realize that there are things much bigger than his desires.

What makes you think that isn't EXACTLY what will happen?

Without normal eyes, his extra ones are all he has left...

I can't even begin to guess how this will end... Though I DO hope that it will end with him in tears and regret

it -will- end up in ugly feelings, that i assume at the moment.

Absolutely scoring a 100% on Calm and Rational decisions of how to handle someone in crisis isn't she?

Well it's been made abundantly clear, that Luna doesn't quite understand how the mortals she lives with functions, and she's a bit too naive, and ignorant in others areas too.
So her taking a direct action in someone's regard, that she thinks is helping, but ends up having the opposite effective, is to expected, or at the very least is bound to happen eventually, even with all the years and knowledge that she has.

Part of what makes gods so annoying is the fact that they can always think 30 moves ahead.

It makes their actions... less than understandable at first glance.

Most gods anyway, the Greek ones and Old Testament yaheweh make Cthulhu look like Jesus

I'm speechless and have no idea what to think anymore.

...What.

Yeah this'll totally not make him even more resentful.

What a fucking bitch.

Yeah? I've only seen a few of these comic pages.. (added their username to my follows) but I could definitely see someone who's angy/irritated, and having their sight removed.. and doing this.. see-with-the-heart thing, that when/IF they do so, they still hold resentment, if not moar resentment towards the one that did it to them.

Like... "Okay, I've done this.. *grumble-grumble* stupid-see-with-the-heart-thing, now gimme my sight back!"

Nigel was raised by terrible parents who made his sole purpose in life to be the guardian, Tree Of Life was clearly aware of that and denied him the right, without addressing the issue, and had the audacity to make it Nigel's fault.

And after that, she does nothing but gives vague pointers and now she has taken his sight while not listening to him at all and spewing pseudo-philosophical crap.

No wonder "The Good Guys" are losing, I'll join the Chaos to spite this bitch.

I'll add that Tree Of Life is absolutely incompetent both as a leader and a teacher.

All she does is shedding crocodile tears in her abode.

Crocodile tears and big tits = completely absolved by 90% of readers!

I am so happy I read your comment. I felt like I was in a sea of madness with everyone being pretty darn harsh to who is literally an abused child and giving a free pass to the immortal goddess who was, and i feel the need to repeat one of your facts here for emphasis, 100% aware of the abuse and did NOTHING!

Blue deer lady loses a lot of virtue points and any right to wash her hands of Nigel with this fact alone and it's only near the start of her long list of cascading failures involving this boy...

That's the problem - Its not a RIGHT. it wasn't his *right* to be a guardian. Being a guardian is a privilege. To - with your whole heart - protect innocents. With the entitlement his parents fed him about being a guardian, there wasn't a genuine want to protect, only to fill *his* desire to be one, for the prestige and worse yet - the love his parents would gave given him (Which is 100% on them.) Whose to say that giving him that wouldn't of made him a horrible guardian - if it was all for himself, looking down on others because he didn't have the desire to protect them, only for what being a guardian would give him? What if his actions as a Guardian, cause the people to waver and completely undermine the trust in *all* the guardians? TTOL saw that, or something akin to it and that's why he wasn't chosen (yet).

And what happens the world over when you tell an entitled kid they can't have what they want? Screaming fit, Tantrum, Throwing things to get their way. He was never going to listen to her because he was never taught the respect needed, only that it was his 'right' and he 'must' have it. She tried to teach him, vaguely because telling him outright would only have made his tantrum worse - as someone like that see's it as reprimand and gets even more bitter, and pushes to do the opposite - like a child. Not one that is ready to be a Guardian of innocents.

"No wonder "The Good Guys" are losing, I'll join the Chaos to spite this bitch." That outlook, is exactly the problem, and you'd be feeding into it. Entitlement & Spite. Someone who genuinely wants to help people, wants to protect and save innocent people - doesn't flip so easily over something so petty. Because - guess what. Its not about *you*. Its about Them.

This isn't even touching on his other abilities - it may be a situation of 'two birds with one stone'. The consequence to his actions, but also a herculean trial. Something to help him focus on the abilities he is given - A way to teach him directly of his abilities - for him to do it on his OWN, because learning clearly isn't a strong suit of his and a way to force someone to be humble and curb their ego to see beyond it. To stop blaming everything and everyone he see's, and turn inward.

Is it Harsh? Yes.
Could it fuck up? Spectacularly.
Is it going to work? That depends on him.

But i think if her intention was to remove him as a lost cause and give up on him completely, she would of done something else.

Couldn't agree more.
Reading comments makes me feel like it's full of aged children, same as Nigel.
Aged, but never grown up.

"You no like a character, therefore you a child who don't know shit!"
Yeah, we should all simp for a bimbo with big tits instead.
OK, wanker.

>Oversimplifies critique of narrow-mindedness with more narrow-mindedness
>Resorts to name-calling
>Simps for narrow-minded angry child
>Defensively dismisses generalization of the puerile nature of many comments unprompted
>Unwittingly proves the point they were attempting to refute.
10/10, would savor ignorance again.

OK, wanker.

And sImping for a fuck up of a "god" is 10,000% superior to sympathising with Nigel, right?

Sorry edgy dude gave shitty comments. I do disagree with you though and wanna explain why. Basically yea Nigel is a immature and disrespectful shit, but here is a quick list of why he's a victim here and should be given a lot gentler treatment by the readers.

--Nigel had abusive parents who raised and groomed him his whole childhood in a sorta pseudo golden child type role. With the goal of him becoming guardian at the expense of everything else being a key point. (while ignoring his little bro)
--The goddess was aware of this abuse and her only action was to talk to his parents once, and it did less then nothing. Hell it may have made them worse about it.
--She didn't prep him in any way for her surprise refusal for guardianship, and only offered vague philosophy which she herself admits to know, does not work on him. But hey it lets her pretend that she tried to help!
--Because of his "failure" his parent's literally shun him and toss him onto the street and SUCCESFULLY replace him with his little brother. (not little bro's fault but dude that's fuuuucked)
--Now in current times he's become a maladjusted delinquent with an attitude problem and insecurity issues the size of a small blimp. Because of course he has. literally what was he gonna become with that sorta backstory?
--Now finally brave enough he confronts her and lays out why he's so angry and resentful and it's basically like taking to a wall for both of them.
--He is incapable of understanding, he's too wrapped up in his own suffering and the excuses he uses to defend his shattered sense of self-worth to understand her flowery words. Deer Lady continues to do nothing but continue to offer vague platitudes...again for the billionth time in his life. Deer Lady being completely unwilling (or worse; unable) to see through his insecurities and excuses into WHY he's truly upset.
--THEN to wrap it all up she, for the first time in his life, actually intervenes in his life in a meaningful way! For the first time in all the years he's known her, she does something for him other than offer simple platitudes and philosophy.

By fucking blinding him...and she has the audacity to feel bad for herself too...

100%

Thank you! Glad to see there's someone else who gets it 😅

And btw, just because she's the "good Goddess of life" archetype, doesn't mean she won't use her godly powers to smite/punish people when truly necessary...
In mythology, this happened all the time with Greek deities (and for way pettier issues I might add) and the biblical tale of Jonah also comes to my mind.

i mean, medusa got punished for being raped so .. yeah ?

It is a privilege, but it's a privilege drilled into his head as the only goal in his life by his abusive parents. Abusive parents who I might add the Blue Deer was aware were abusive and ASKED them to stop. Didn't send the kid help or guidance he understood, just vague platitudes and asked his parents stop trying to force him to be a guardian once, that's literally all she did his entire life to help him. Then she has the audacity of acting sad when he of course freaks the heck out when things go sideways!

She didn't prep him for receiving the no at all...she is an actual god and she never tried to counteract the brainwashing his parents were doing and never tried to help him deal with it. She didn't approach earlier and say "Hey bud, I know your being trained to be a guardian to the exclusion of everything else by your bad parents. How about I hook you up with one of my multiple mortal agents to give you actual training to become a guardian. Or at least some sort of healthy structure in your life so you don't devolve into an angry criminal the second your life falls apart?". She should have done something years ago to help Nigel process anything that was being said to done to him, but nothing was done.

But nope! Vague platitudes and flower philosophy for the barely educated abused child! So Nigel continues to suffer as he is beat with the philosophy stick repeatedly. The adults and mentors in his life absolutely refusing to adapt their methods to help him adjust or learn.

Like, i just can't blame Nigel for anything he's done when this blue lady very much saw the coming train derailment that was Nigel's entire childhood (she talked to his parents about it!) and instead just stood there and proceeded to act like it was his fault afterword and his failure not hers despite her being able to prevent a dozen times over easily during the intervening years.

She set him up for failure and is to blame for not only his suffering but also the suffering he will cause in the future imo...

forgive the mix-up/change between my comment. I fixed something and had to edit something i said because i explained it poorly and when i went to alter the last two paragraphs to fit into my changed comment the thing stop letting me edit my comment :(

I HATE the editing time window with a passion...

except, as a result of her denying him, his parents straight up acted like he no longer existed and nothing was done about that. at all.
He effectively no longer had parents because to his parents, he no longer existed.

BEHOLD
THE UNSEE BUTTON

As someone who cares a lot for my eyes, I'd be terrified indeed...!

"Ha I'll steal from a deity! Nothing bad could possibly... ohno..."

I mean, depending on where you live and who you steal from, a mortal could also blind you, it'd just be uh, more gruesome.

Well... How to win someone over when your decision has brought him nothing but hardship. Blind em and make simple act of living exponentially harder.

Really excited to see how it works out in future owo

How is this supposed to help him?! Someone in his mental position can’t possibly benefit from having his sight taken by the very person he blames for his suffering. He’s already lost so much so how is being blind supposed to make him grow when he has nothing and no one to turn to? This will only make him hate her even more because now he has something to directly blame her for.

Saying this on a whim here.

The way I see it, Nigel from what I gather is a very important component in the coming conflict, but with the way he is now, he's not only a liability, but a shadow of someone he could have been. We've also yet to see Tristan, who I suspect is also in the same boat in regards, to not being aware of what he's actually capable of.

For a undetermined amount of time Nigel has been seeing visions of some kind, which have been confirmed to not be nightmares, and during this time Luna has failed to get through to him, one part cause it would seem she has no idea how to effectively do that, and the other part being Nigel blames her for everything.

As for why she's done this? I can think of a few of reasons:

The first one being Nigel's already a lost cause, and extreme measures seem to be the only option, which sucks, but hey, that what's a string of bad decisions/choices from both parties gets you.

The second reason, if Nigel is blaming everyone he sees as a source of all his problems, with this progressively making him worse, while also preventing him from being aware of the "gift" he has, then by doing this, she's effectively forcing him to self reflect whether he likes it or not, and I suppose forcing him to see the visions, which I'm assuming will allow him to see again, if he figures how it works.

With all that said, yes, this pretty extreme, and yes, this isn't going to help Luna get in Nigel's good grace's, but hey she made this choice, now time will only if this pays of, or backfires spectacularly.

There’s no denying that, given how she said she hated having to do this before his ‘big day’.

Though this is definitely going to get worse before it even comes close to getting better.

I'd think of a more practical approach as to why Luna took his eyesight.
Now that he can't see, he's forced to ask for help since he's now reliant
on receiving help from others and maybe that way he'll realize that not
everyone is out to get him and ruin his life. But also you have to sharpen
your other senses, like smell/hearing and touch which makes you
experience the world in a very different way than with your eyes.

Maybe that's what Luna is going for. 🤷‍♂️

I'd assume the point here isn't just "lol you're blind now". Maybe it'll awaken some other ability?

"The same hammer that shatters the glass can temper the steel."

He can't see ANYTHING but what his extra eyes can see, now. Now he'll have to learn how to use them.

Oh shit.
Not good, not good at all.

Wow.. PTSD incoming..

F around and find out, hur hur ima steal from a god what could possibly go wrong, anyttwaaaaay turn your life around and stop only caring about yourself or stay blind. I love this lady.

If she's trying to make him go all daredevil, this is a terrible way to do it🙀 forcing him to see things in a different way, is definitely not going to help his trust issues😓

fuck first she fucks out then she takes his sight then owning up to her failure man i hope she get it and its painful as hell

Divine punishment, huh? Although, getting robbed of his sight is kinda.. rough. I suppose it's going to lead to some big introspective enlightenment but right now, our blue goddess here just lost a gold star in my book.

Amazing comic!

Wow, people really like to analyze every action of Luna and make her look incompetent at best an downright malicious at worst, do they?

Always.
Never a dull moment for these people to bash on her.
Is she perfect? No, but we're in the middle of the storytelling, character development and they're already loosing their marbles.

I just severely dislike the character, thus far I've held my tongue but safe to say I'm not enjoying the comic for a bit now due to her

(hi there!)

I'm sure there's some grand scheme in mind with a big pay off at the mid-end. But yeah, she's coming across as the brightest tool in the shed atm.

Sup Devin
I kinda see why nobody seems to respect her she's like a teacher trying to get children to behave by just gently reminding them of the rules, kind at heart but unfit for the position

"kind at heart but unfit for the position"
I feel like that sums her up perfectly. She's trying to be to "motherly" or "scholarly" about.. pretty much all of this. Nigel's just getting the absolute blunt of it rn.

To be fair. she has been acting pretty incompetent. and this last act of hers was pretty malicious😅

People can't think 30 moves ahead. Some beings can. It makes communication... difficult.

Yes! Exactly! It’s like what happened with Ruby and Sapphire from Stephen Universe. Sapphire kept looking ahead into the future where the issue has been resolved but ended up disregarding how everyone felt in the present which in turn made Ruby angrier and more upset cause she believed Sapphire just didn’t care.

Oh! I forgot about that episode. I feel like that's exactly what's going on rn.

Perhaps if her decisions werent so obviously awfull and outright incompetent and most importantly hypocritical (Nigels entire family line/tradition is build on vanity and pride but somehow both his parents, their parents etc. etc. were guardians, we have seen rather selfish behavior and the outright dismissal of Lunas plans from the other Guardians etc. but only Nigel is being judged...) then people wouldnt blame her as much. But here we are.. with yet another brilliant Luna decision.

Hey this kid hates me and blames me for everything that went wrong in his live.. wich he has a very strong point for.. i know what will fix that! More wisdom of the gods BS talk and taking away his eyesight! IM BRILLIANT! XD

Its no wonder that chaos is winning, if luna is anything to go by the Gods are terrible in interpersonal relationship managment XD

Nigel's and his family's issues are their own. They're not her fault. And how Nigel turned out is on him.

Way to miss my point buddy. The point was that nigels family line is made up of self centered, vain and arrogant people who would abandon their own child if it didnt meet their expectations, and all of them where made into guardians. Now why was Nigel denied becomming a guardian? Because his motivation stemmed from doing right by his parents instead of being a selfless saint at the age of what? 8? 10 years old? And he didnt even hate Luna initially, only once his parents dropped him like hot garbage. How did people like that become guardians under luna? And dont give me that "they started out as good people and then turned into monsters... thats not how these things work.

Highly hypocritical, especially considering his brother actually was made into a guardian... and he never once actually searched for nigel or inquired about his wellbeing all this time to anyone, his brother did exactly the same thing nigel did.... became a guardian because his parents expected it of him. His brother before they dropped nigel was never shown to show any interest in becomming a guardian himselfe. But he sure as hell quickly lapped up the attention his parents showered him with once nigel was out of the picture... grade A guardian material right there....

Is it any wonder that the whole guardian system is incredibly scuffed and one after another they are falling to chaos?

I see your point, but hear me out.
At first glance Luna's actions make no sense if you look at them as decisions made by a regular person. But that's the point. Luna is not a regular person, she is Goddess! And as we know "God works in mysterious ways". So usualy when God or God-like figure in a story does "whisdom of Gods BS" we as audience don't question it, because that's how the story goes and it may be nonsensical at first but we know it'll work out in the end. But for some reason people don't give Luna the same benefit of the doubt as they would to, say, the magic lady from Beauty and the Beast. How exactly turning an arrogant prince into a monster will help him to become a better person? And what his servants did to be cursed as well??? No one asks those questions, because we know how divine punishment works.
And that's what upsets me about criticism of Luna.
I guess the confusion is caused by the way she's presented in comic. We see her struggle and worry, not sure if her plan would work or not. She's not omnipotent all-knowing being, but she's still a Goddess, she knows and sees more then others and even the audience.
And yeah sure, Nigel's parents are assholes to him, and not very good people, but if they still became guardiand then it means they met the requirements. And don't forget, his younger brother did pass, which means Nigel just slipped through the cracks, a freak accident.
And quite frankly, I don't like Nigel, he's bitter and obnoxious brat that only makes life worse for himself and the others. I have no sympathy for him. The guy needs to change his life while he can, and if becoming blind will help, so be it!

Being a god does not excuse you from acting like a moron. You cant just handwave away the terrible train of decisions and contradictions that played a role in nigels hatred for her.

How can two people who would abandon their own child to DIE for not meeting their expectations, without even giving the child a second chance (wich nigel was more then willing and ready to attempt mind you) ever become guardians when an intrinsic part of being a guardian is being selfless and wanting to help the weak? What is weaker then a child? Sorry the argument that they "once met the requirements" dont fly in this context. You dont turn from a selfless champion of the downtrodden suddenly into arrogant, vain and overly pridefull parent whos willing to throw away their kid on a dime, not even caring if they life or die like that.

And then theres the issue of Nigels brother becomming a guardian, despite having the same expectations and upbringing hoisted onto him as a replacement for nigel... but he sure as hell enjoyed the attention and care his parents suddenly invested into him. And somehow he made it to becoming a guardian, even thought he knew the entire time that his parents love is conditional, even thought he saw first hand what happens if you dont meet their expectations, somehow nigels brother was just perfectly selfishless... how is that possible?

Nigels brother should have a worse time becomming a guardian because he saw what happened to his brother... he knows what its like to not be loved by his parents allready... he should fear being abandoned by his parents even more because of that and have even more of a flawed motivation to become a guardian...

Luna couldnt have messed this whole nigel situation up more if she had actually tried to.

The actions of Luna in the whole nigel situation are contradictory and unlogical. Nigel was not evil, and he was abandoned by EVERYONE around him. Nobody tried to save him after his parents dropped him, not the guardians, not luna, not his extended family, not his brother. Yet no one had to face any sort of consequences.. except nigel.

If luna is really this god figure that everyone looks up to she should have ripped Nigels parents a new one, told them how disapointed she was in them for what they did and that she regrets ever making them guardians.. but she didnt.. infact she promoted nigels brother to a guardian, giving his parents exactly what they wanted. Behave like a god or dont.. but dont pull the "god moves in mysterious ways" card whenever she fucks up. Luna dropped the ball.. and is still pouring oil into the fire.

Well i guess fuck nigel then right?

Edith:

Also please please please dont take this personal >_< im just discussing the story as i see it. Im in no way trying to personally attack you

First, Nigel was not abbandoned, he ran away from home because his parents neglected him.
Second, you don't have to be a good parent or be selfless to be a good guardian. Even other character serve as example of that, like Leopold is motivated by revenge and he despises his own father, who is clearly depressed (and probably disabled) and probably died alone and misserable because his own son deemed him "too weak". Chilly is an idiot who can't even brew tea without turning it into a poison, and she became a guardian for no good reason it seems.
And why exactly Toby becoming a guardian is an issue? Sure he "saw" what happened to his brother, but he clearly didn't understand what happened. There was even a question about it in ASK section, clearlly showing him oblivious to Nigel's struggle. And as having a brother myself I can see how the same upbringing can raise different people. That's no mistery. And I also had abusive parent, much worse then Nigel's, but as a small child we often don't see abuse for what it is, it's becoming a norm. Only looking back at it as an adult I understand how messed up my childhood was, same with Toby.
As for Lunas actions, as I said before, she's not omnipotent. She didn't know her rejecting Nigel would have such consequences, and she Tried to help him next time they met but He rejected and all but avoided her since. It sucks sure but frankly The Goddess of Life has more pressing matters than chase around alost kid or discipline neglectful parents of said kid. How do you imagine it would look? "Hey! I've seen your kid runing around in the forest speacking nonecense, can you take him back please? Oh, you didn't kick him out, he ran away... oh well"
Oh yeah, let's not forget, NIGEL RAN AWAY FROM HOME AND NO ONE KICKED HIM OUT! He just got pissy because he wasn't a golden child anymore boo-hoo.
But I guess to each their own. I see Lunas action as normal devine intervention, you see it as some major falure at everything. So be it.

They never went out and looked for him, they never cared if he lived or died. For all they knew he WAS dead... i doubt they even put up a gravestone for him...

Wich parent would not go immidiantly look for their kid, or even inform the authorities that their kid ran away in this situation?

If that isnt abandonment.. well i dont know what is...

Also you seem to lay the blame for nigel running away at the feet of a angry, confused and afraid child of what? 8 to 10 year old? Wich also just learned that his entire life and the love of his parents was nothing but a facade? Bit harsh there... he was a child.. emotionally compromised to 11... not a mature adult who should know better.

And if his parents are what counts as prime guardian material.. as i said: Chaos is winning for a reason XD

Your argument that same upbringing can have different results doesnt work out with how the story was told though. Nigels brother started out unloved, then suddenly became a replacement vessel for his "failed" brother, gaining all the love and attention of his parents all of a sudden, wich he was very happy about, hell he never even expressed the wish for his brother to come back... it stands to reason that he even more then Nigel would fear the loss of said love and attention. How can someone raised that way, with a damocles sword hanging over their head the entire time, become better then his abandoned brother? That makes no sense.. that isnt how these things work at all.

He should fear the loss more so then nigel, nigel didnt even know his parents would react that way.. but his brother does.. his brother knows what happens if you dont meet mommy and daddies expectation... even if its just subconciously... but he became the parade effing image of a guardian.

If that isnt the cherry ontop of the trainwreck that is nigels life...

Yeah abandonment doesn't just mean "Driven out into the middle of nowhere and left to themselves" them having literally no love for him let alone passing interest in his life is still outright abandonment.

Ok I'm not arguing any further, we clearly never agree on anything.
I just want to clarify that I make the division between "abandonment" and "running away" for a matter of agency. It is clear that Nigel's parents are neglectfull assholes who didn't care for their own kid, but my point is that Nigel CHOSE to live his home. He CHOSE to never encounter The Tree besides throwing stone at her once. He CHOSE to do nothing but antagonise guardians and petty crime. That's on HIM. In no way The Tree is responsible for ANY of it. Her decisions may begin this domino chain of complete failure but
IT
IS
NOT
HER
FAULT
That's my point. You disagree? So be it. My point stands weather you like it or not.
I'm not victim blaming, I simply point out that Nigel's choise is not Luna's fault. That's it.
As for my point for Toby not knowing any better when it comes to his upbringing, I just use myself as an example that kids are oblivious to abuse. He sure can have some understanding now that his adult and knows the whole story, but at the moment he was kept in the dark by his parrents, and frankly, this early in life neglect can slide as long as it's not severe (Toby was fed and looked after, just not doted over). So as I see it it's perfectly believable that Toby thought of his parrents as good and loving and his brother just dissapearing one day for no reason to be discovered later as petty hobo he is. And AS I SEE IT There's no reason for Toby to be fearfull of his parrents. As bad as they are, they only used carrots and never the sticks. As we can see in Nigel's memory of childhood he was never so much as threatened with punishment for failing, it was assumed that he will succeed, that's why their sudden change of demeanor was such a shock. And I can only assume that Toby was raised the same, but unlike Nigel he did catch on the purpose of guardian and passed the test and lived his life, never punished or deterred, his early years as "invisible child" nothing but a fading memory.
But you clearly see it differently. So be it.

so you are saying Luna could not have done anything to maybe...correct his parents to see you dont just abandon your child?
interesting take.

Your "take" sure is interesting
not gonna entertain it tho

I've stated a lot of this in comments prior, and she makes no sense period. She just really is an evil uncaring person who is pretending to be an uncaring force of nature.

Think of it like the sun. The sun does many things for us that is good, it grows our food, it brings us light and warmth etc. But for a man lost in the desert the sun is now killing him. The sun is a force of nature and has no free will, or if it does it has to sit silently by and watch the man die knowing that yes, the sun could save that mans life by not shining, but then they'll be affecting the rest of the world at large.

Luna cannot be both force of nature and also impartial. All her actions speak towards manipulation and trying to force a direction when she endlessly pretends she is "Hands off" on everything is outright infuriating. Worst of all she made Leonard a guardian when the only reason he wanted to be a guardian is because he believes his dad is a colossal failure as a guardian and is doing it to make his dad suffer for his failure to protect his mother/people.

To be honest, I have no idea where are you comming from with this argument and I don't see how it's connected to me. But go off I guess.
As I see it you couldn't be further from truth but I'm not gonna argue anymore.

Wow !! Holy sh*t, I didn't expected that. In a way The Tree killed three birds with one stone. She "punished" Nigel for his arrogance, she made sure that Nigel won't be a threat and she wants him to "see" the world differently. Both wise and cruel I would say.

I read tons of stories featuring entitled crazy karens, messing with disabled people and more than one time, I imagined that someone would purposely make them disabled too, to teach them a lesson, like humility and respect. In a twisted way, I thought they would change their behavior and return to the good path. You know, being in someone else shoes could be a good life lesson.

WELP ! Here we are. It is not every day you see something like that.

Can't say we could see that one coming. Or Nigel for that matter.

However! In the first pages of the chapter, in his dream, we can see how the tendrils that come out of Luna attack him directly on his eyes. I'm 100% sure that Nigel has some sort of precognition powers, and Luna has blinded him to force that part out of him (you know that whole "blind seer" cliche). Unfortunately, this drastic decision can only be seen as further punishment and injustice from Nigel's side.

well then, that happened <.<

Wow, really? I knew that whatever magic she was going to do last page would be bad for Nigel, but this? She just literally crippled a person for her own needs. I honestly feel that they're were better options to convince him or show him a better path in life then just blinding him and hoping her actions doesn't feed his hatred for her further. Nigel better hope this is reversible.

Now he must see the world as she sees it! Only then will he understand the error of his ways.

Blind, ignorant, devoid in seeing the actions around herself as her own doing?

Sounds about right!

thats a bit mean :(

.... The fuck?
Well its time to join Dark Side I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F6MlcQ4jao

I'm not clicking on that shit! And I guess I lied when I said I wouldn't reply. Oh well!

LOL 100% that.

Lol right?! I cant say I have seen anyone get so frothing at the mouth angry over a comic. They must have some sort of issue they need to work out in their private time.

Yes, I have as much issues with the comic as Nigel has with the overgrown glow stick bimbo. How dare I!

Your thirst for attention is astounding. so much for not reading or replying, that was not even TO you and yet you came back and read it XD BOY, get off the internet and go touch grass.

Pudgy-Mutt: How dare you reply to something I said! Also, I have athoritah over you! Go outside! Do what I say! And I block you!
Me: LOL!

I'm not on Team Nigel or Team Luna. I'm on Team Hate The Parents.
Also, I think the fact that no character is immune to wrong doing is a boon for the story. They're all so complex and doing the best they can within the confines of their own personalities, and it often falls short. I love it.

I'm now on team "don't care about this comic"

That is your prerogative.

Indeed.

Now he has no choice but to focus on what he CAN still see. If that doesn't teach him how important he really is, nothing can.

He never WANTED to be a good person. Just telling him what he needed to do wouldn't work.
I suppose you could call it "tough love"? Heh, bad joke.

She is a deity. They are utterly alien. They can think 30 moves ahead. It makes them seem, and BE monstrous sometimes. But the only way we can really gauge their actions is by their consequences.

And she can think 30 moves ahead.

She sure as hell didnt forsee nigels parents, who she choose to be guardians, abandoning him and not caring if he lives or dies.

If she can truly see "30 moves ahead" then how come she let the whole situation escalate like this? She clearly regrets what happened to him and her role in all of it but at first she does nothing and now she cripples him... and expects him to understand some deeper meaning behind it all?

Seems to me youre making excuses for her.

And she isnt "utterly alien" All her actions, her personality and even her desires in this story are completly understandable and logical.. except when it comes to nigel. The demands she made of him, she made of no one else. Not his parents, not his brother, not the lion guy who became a guardian to spite his father... the only one who got utterly shagged was nigel and nigel alone. Everyone else got what they wanted...

30 moves ahead? More like making stuff up as she goes along XD

The worst part about all this is I know the next part of this story is going to be "The dreams are visions and are real" when she could have told him this, hell taken his vocal cords away for 5 seconds to force him to shut up and listen to her explain that and instead she rips away his vision.

How this is supposed to make Nigel see the "Light" when this just shows more cruelty and inability to do anything with compassion, which you know she does indeed have she is taking care of two adopted daughters, unless this is just a farce too and she doesn't love them. Honestly all this "Chaos" just seems to be grown out of Luna's own influence.

"But she has compassion!" Because she looks nice and speaks in soft tones does not equal compassion, it masks malice and intent. How most serial killers get their victims is by getting them off guard.

See Karadalis's earlier reply. He said it better than I ever could.

Also, if tree was a hideous old hag would you still be on her side?
Actually, don't answer that. I don't care.

i'm pretty sure all he can see now is black. or white ; or anything a blind person "sees" in their minds. i hope he's not like me, unable to "materialize" image in their heads.

Aphantasia?

i think thats the word, thanks

Lets not use the word retarded man, its 2023, its considered not ok.

Nigel created his own Furaffinity account just to post this here.

Boy, you have your own issues, buddy. Good luck.

Disliking a unlikable character = having issues.
LOL! LMAO even!

And yes, I totally created my account on Jan 13 2022 just to REEEEEEEE about the blue glowstick bimbo on March 3 2023.
Double post = everyone can disregard everything I say forever. Or that's what I'm assuming people will do.

I'm sure there's a grand scheme or plan in mind that will lead to a big pay off, Have faith in Vik's story telling folks! This isn't their first rodeo.
that being said

Tree REALLY ain't great at "reading the room". The way she keeps avoiding giving him direct answers with just makes him have more questions and frustration. I'm sure she's aiming for the "see with your heart" kinda approach, but this could all be avoided if she STOPED seeing with HER heart, and look at the boy who's entire life's purpose she down-right denied.
Maybe he wouldn't have been the best Gaudian, but he's about to be one hell of a malicious villain at this rate.

Good intentions, bad execution.
For as far as we know about Luna, I believe your comment about how "she sees with her heart but not others'" (at least the way I interpretated it) sums up her character quite well. Which then I believe would make her rather hypocritical to ask Nigel to view the world differently.
She may be aiming for the greater good as a whole but forget about the individual.

I very much agree, Vik's comics are very fun to read and often leave me on the edge of my seat wondering what will happen next.

I know autistic people who are better at reading the room that the glowing tree! XD

WOW.

Now I seriously wouldn't blame Nigel in the SLIGHTEST if he ends up joining Rah'Jan in taking her down. This lady is a terrible person.

She actually kinda reminds me of the God Emperor of Mankind: Claims to care about their subjects, but hasn't got the slightest clue about them or what they want.

"Look with your heart"?

Lmao, the walking glowstick really outdid herself this time, this is something straight out of a shitty 80s movie.

I'm not impressed. Is there some sorta elaboration for this on Viktria's Patreon?

Time to Way of the Samurai Nigel. Can't always get what you want :)

Adapt or Die :)

Honestly, it’s very heartbreaking to see Nigel in so much pain.

I don't like this lady at all.

I'm...going to be honest, this is probably the moment that's broken the comic for me.

Our main group of heroes is generally unlikeable and mean (minus the literal thief)

We've got a goddess who has made terrible decesions in regards to nigel and others
("You haveta look with yer heart now instead of yer eyes" yeah what if he falls inTO A PIT HOW'S HIS HEART GONNA HELP HIM THERE????)

and honestly i've been losing steam on enjoying this. Like, c'mon, what the fuck.

I have some mixed feeling about this... I can understand what she's trying to do: make him stop seeing just the material side of things and go for something more deep, but blinding people like this? I would have at least a couple of questions about her ways...

ooouuuu that will turn out badly. I have a feeling that this will rage him up and end up in suffering - at least for a wile.

Ich sags mal auf Deutsch die Kandidaten kapieren nicht worum es bei dem Stelle geht.
I'll say it in English, the candidates don't understand what the Job is about.

Now you shall see with eyes unclouded by hatred

Problem is, hatred is not in the eyes but in the heart, by all that has happened to him. Let's hope Viktria can make this all work somehow.

It's a joke...

Ohh, didn't get it as it was not an obvious pun like other comments in here XD

Today, Nigel learned an important lesson: Tree is a vengeful and vindictive Goddess, yes indeedy!

did you guys forget? this is already long since plotted out. what we're seeing is like a two-month delay in the storyline (thanks to Christmas holidays). sunshine and lollipops this creator is not. Rhajan is behind the whole plot, and even the deities in this world are stumped and have to take extreme and severe measures. you could also call this Karma for the character, as he AND his family are all entitled snots that think they're all that and a bag of chips.

" you could also call this Karma for the character, as he AND his family are all entitled snots that think they're all that and a bag of chips."

Nigel's brother seems like he's pretty decent as a person.

So, Nigel and his family suck therefore Nigel deserves all he gets. Right. What about the lion guardian who got his job because he hates the father he thinks is weak and worthless? Perfectly fine?

i really hope viktria has something planned that'll make what luna just did forgivable

Mmm… I don’t know if I can say I’m enjoying the direction this is going either. I understand there’s a lot more story to tell but, it’s very hard not having a person in this story so far to root for. It’s just a bit too dire and the torture this character is going through feels very unjustified. It’s such a shame. :C

really? she's like thousands of years old she saw entire lives of mortals from start to finish and she's still alien to those concept of anger and grief... to the point of making someone blind?

forget teaching her! grab a pitchfork and torchs with a mob

Assuming she doesn't memory wipe him, I feel he's only going to double down on his contempt for her

You reap what you sow.

Great job Nigel. 😂😂

I bet he didn't see that one coming

I trust the Tree more than a lot of the other commenters, here.

Nigel blames everyone else for everything that has gone wrong for him, and refuses to accept any responsibility for himself. This might be the kind of a shock that makes him see (heh!) things in a new way, and allow him to move on -- either becoming a Guardian, or abandoning his bitterness and letting go of his grudge.

I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. That said, I know soldiers in the artillery regiment who could throw her a fucking long way...

And how is he supposed to any of that when he’s BEEN BLINDED?! He had nothing before and now he doesn’t even have his sight. This will only feed his hatred for her because now he actually has something to directly blame her for.

Maybe we should wait to see what happens, hmm?

Yeah, I know. This is the one thing that frustrates me about engaging comics like this; getting only one page at a time.

No. I've lost interest in this comic.

The people to blame here are neither Nigel nor Luna. It's Nigel's parents who didn't see him as a son, only as a vessel to continue the family tradition of being guardians.

His parents were guardians so they must have known that it takes more than physical prowess to be one. If they failed to teach him that his rejection is really their fault. They gave him affection while he was training, but as soon as he wasn't accepted they dropped him like a broken toy. Remember Nigel did not take Luna's rejection badly at first. He accepted that he was not ready and was excited to continue his training.

It wasn't getting rejected by Luna that damaged Nigel, it was getting rejected by his parents.

W-When I said "vision quest"...I didn't think she'd take his vision!

Oh. Well damn!

I like this story. I like that not everyone is flawless. You don't need a flawless person to root for them. If you do, you won't find anyone in reality to root for, and if you think you know someone who is flawless then you're more blind than Nigel. Even Mother Teresa isn't immune from controversy. Here's my opinion, ordered by person.

Nigel is a self centered egotist, fixated on not getting what he wanted, and blames the wrong person for the negative actions of his parents. Luna had little to nothing to do with that. He's completely immune to any facts contradicting what he believes, which even effects his views on reality. "I'm gonna steal to show how much better I am than everyone else." Really? There's a certain level of disconnect from reality taking place there. But, he wasn't the one who put himself on this path, and can we really blame a kid for becoming obsessed with completing a task tied so closely to his parent's love for him?

Luna is a bit naive and goodie goodie for her own good, only taking a harsh, direct approach when it's absolutely necessary. Had she put her foot down with Nigel's parents and/or helped young Nigel see what his parents were doing as wrong, help him be more of the guardian she needed him to be, things could have been much different. But here's the catch, "Could have been." Nothing is guaranteed, and the Self Centered Egotist could have just rejected TToL even harder making things worse. Taking a hands off, "you reap what you sow," approach may be her only defense against being called a Tyrant.

His Parents got off easy if the only thing they got was murdered by the chaos, but that wouldn't be fun narratively. But Nigel facing his corrupted parents in direct combat aside, they did their son dirty. Tying their love to becoming a Guardian forced Nigel down a path of being obsessed with keeping their love for him through completing that act. He never cared about becoming a guardian beyond that because he knew how badly his little brother was treated by his parents when his parents focused their love elsewhere. But what they were giving wasn't love, it was self centered, egotistical, affection and little more, easily masked as love to the eyes of a little kid. And when that affection was taken away, crushed the soul of their child with little remorse for their actions. They cared about their reputation, not their child.

This story is fantastic. So many complicated characters, so many mysteries, so much lore. God I wanna binge the whole thing from front to end even though it's not finished!

well...that's pretty fucked up

He's beyond redemption!!!!!

hmm well I thought that would be cooler. though it is interesting she didn't just do something as simple as "turn off" his eyes or something, she erased his pupils which kind of makes me curious what kind of flesh warping shenanigans she can do (unless I am overthinking an artistic choice lol).

I have to admit though, I am starting to understand while Nigel has a bit of a grudge, she's blinded him and still talking like she's doing him a favor

well... things are about to get really interesting

She went over the line, but I'm also sure it will work!

Also though, keep poking the goddess and at some point you'll get the horns lol

Hm. She’s quite horrible. Very powerful page!

OK, she's making it even worse... I guess he's rage with only increase...

I wouldn't consider this the best way to help someone with insight.

This totally won’t backfire on her, again

Ok, now I think it's time to call Kartos.

This is some scary shit.

I thought you went blind from jerking off, not being a jerkoff

Personally I love Nigel. I think he thinks he wants to be a guardian or knight but I think he really wants his families love. He's like Zuko from Avatar. But his families love wasn't worth having, not after the way they treated him. And I'm including Toby I kinda feel if Toby really loved Nigel, He would have put in more of an effort to help him or talk to him, but we will have to wait and see about that I guess.

Kinda ironic he will become a knight and all the joy he would have felt from becoming one will be overshadowed by the pain of loosing his sight, that and he won't be able to see the faces of the people who doubted him. Kinda a hollow victory.

I hope Nigel gets his sight back eventually. And I still hope Nigel gets a happier ending then the other knight's. I feel he should have it.

I always wondered why Nigel had a staff I know he is poor but you'd think they'd give him something better for the road. when he was trained in the sword. Now I know he needs it to get around. I hope the theory of Nigel becoming the a Seer is true I truly believe he needs his own supernatural gift to make up for his shitty childhood. And the staff weapon might suggest wizard.

And If Nigel has to lose his sight I hope Luna has to do something drastic too Miralle ass well it's not fair that Nigel gets the blunt misfortune of the knights. Especially if Miralle is going to be an ass to him after this like I think she will be.

I think Luna went way too far and if anyone needs a harsh lesson she does. I feel as if she is trying to manipulate Nigel rather than going thru the work of helping him. I hope Luna actually goes to the effort of making it up to Nigel and don't mean some empty words I mean action.

I don't know, man. Nigel is just terrible. He just seems like a bad person at heart. He was raised in entitlement and privilege, and now he's consumed by his own entitlement. He made the life he has -- the Tree certainly didn't, and not even his family did. He did it. This is him, and this is what he made for himself. He built the life he has with his own hands.

Maybe we'll get a revelation that puts all of this into a different context, but I see no redeeming aspects to Nigel's character yet. Just "I deserved it all, I didn't get it, so fuck all of you for not giving it to me." I keep hearing about this "potential" of his... not seeing it yet. Not seeing one hint of why he would deserve a second chance. Giving how he actually handled all of it? I'm likely to think that the goddess made the right decision originally. He definitely doesn't seem to have good character traits that would have made him worthy for such a position.

I mean, what was the big impetus for his turn towards evil? Towards being such a violent, angry shit? "My rich family liked my brother a bit more than me?" Oh, boo fucking hoo. Most families, especially on THIS world Viktria has created, go through way worse stuff than that, and they don't turn into people whose unjustified entitlement is their most major character trait.

Nigel was a perfectly fine kid, diligent and hard working. He wasnt evil, he also wasnt selfish. He was a kid that wanted to make his parents proud and meet their expectations. She didnt choose him because his motivation was "make parents proud" instead of "i want to help the helpless"

And when luna rejected him as a guardian? What was his reaction? "Okay goddess.. ill try next year again! I will find what im missing i trust you!"

Only after his parents abandoned him, his whole world crashing down and turning into dust before his very eyes as he was imidiantly replaced by his younger brother, only after luna had nothing but empty platitudes for him, only after years having to life on the street with no one caring if he lifes or dies did he turn bitter and hatefull. It started as childish anger and confusion... the bitterness is solely to place on everyone elses shoulders, including luna who aparantly not once reached out to nigel to make sure the kid is still alive....

And then she made his brother, who had the exact same upbringing, who would have even more of a flawed motivation to become a guardian since he knows what it means to loose his parents affection, into a guardian....

Heck she made those parents who abandoned him to die on the streets into guardians in the first place...

And you blame nigel for his bitterness? When Luna kept adding insult to injury every step of the way?

Thiiiiis is gonna show up in his villain monologue flashback.

We are supposed to like Luna right? Everything keeps pointing to it, but the actions in story really don't add up to it.

Same. There's a huge dissonance between what the writing wants us to think vs. how a large portion of the audience actually thinks about it. If it's intentional it's definitely not my cup of tea.

That said, the art is always gorgeous and I appreciate the hard work that goes into making a comic. It is no small undertaking.

Art is gorgeous that's true, but yeah it just seems like despite having gone through what should have been character growth for the tree given that she raised a child to try and understand those under her better.. She still remains the same.

oh shit

Not gonna lie not a fan of the tree's move here, but I hope it's only a temporary state for the specific purpose of seeing with his heart that she is talking about.

Well, that was a lot tamer than it could have been, he should be thankful that's all she did.

This is going to end very badly for her and a whole lot of other people. Think Darth Vader bad.

She blinded him!?!?

I hope nigel gets a sweet revenge like taking away her immortality.

Ever wonder if that's what she WANTS?

(BlazeDr) You bastich!!!

Free will is inviolate. Not even gods can mess with our ability to make choices.

Even if they want to help us make better ones...

Now he has no choice but to see things from a perspective he either couldn't, or WOULDN'T see them otherwise.

This is the last straw; this will either save him, or drive him truly mad.

As to which, that's up to him...

bitch

What is she trying to do?
Make him hate her even more?
If he and up joing the dark side I won't be suprise 😑

Well, I would certainly be taking the Kill Six Billion Demons approach after this.

Burn my Lifeforce to become 10,000 times stronger just to Smite and Punish God.

I wasn't expecting that. Thought she'd turn the rage/anger he felt toward her or every other knight back in on himself to fully understand how much of a whiny shit he's been with his Entitlement/Victimhood mentally.

This is worse... But I get where this is likely going-- It's going to force him to look at everything beyond surface level for a change (And possibly make him realize what a whiny, entitled, little shit he's been to those around him).

Blinding is a pretty standard tool of deities in general.
My maternal grandfather was a blind WW2 vet. He met and fell in love with my grandmother while recovering in the hospital. They never would have met if he hadn't been blinded.

Ok that came out of left field for me yowza

I feel this all could have gone better if she bloody talked to him and his parents. Just just give vague answered and hope he will figure it out. Emotional young child used to thinking a certain way is going to change and certainly won't change how you hope.

Look at the thief kid. He tried but was talked back into thiwfing cause the people around him know how to manipulate him.

Regardless that what happened to Nigel was terrifying without a doubt, it's very understandable why Luna had to do it in the first place, even more so in the state Nigel is in now; I'm already very curious to know how this ends.

I like Nigel.
I can feel his pain. A poor kid that who's parents tough him that he is only worth if he lived under their ideal life for him. He was okay at first with failure, he though that the goddess was right, but his parents hated him after it. That was too much for a little boy.

It was obvios that he would grow up with an obsession about it "I am not worth, because I am not what I was meant to be"

And the goddess is like "Sure, I don't get you. Go blind" too cruel, I think.

At the end I think that Nigel will find what he is looking, but the cost might even be his life.

Any one else who really wants tristen and him to be friends rn?

I'm sure it's not permanent.

So is he gonna be blind for most of this story?
Then again, he's technically been blinded by anger for most of his life, so it might not change much.

Wow... this flavour of cruelty really makes my heart just sink

I feel Nigel will be one of those 'The world will be better off without gods'

Luna's only making plans for Nigel.
She only wants what's best for him.

Yeah.. like an abusive parent who keeps beating his children black and blue only wants the best for them....

I feel deeply for Nigel.

Everyone, including himself, made the wrong decisions about his growth. And, at the end of the day, he is the only one suffering the consequences of them. A child left with no guidance had little to no chance to turn his life around by himself. The seeds TToL tried to plant into him when he first confronted her (which, in my eyes, was a cry for help more than anything else) had no water to grow. The only seeds planted that evening were the ones of hatred, which were left to proliferate for years. As an immature and vulnerable child, he had no tools to care for his own garden.

In the previous page, Luna admitted herself she was in the wrong when she aplogised to him. Yet, despite her good intentions, she most then likely scarred him even more by taking his sight away. It was nothing but foolish of her to think he would turn the way she had envisioned after their first confrontation. She keeps on talking to Nigel with the wisdom of a God but… he is not. He is still young and unable to grasp the meaning behind her words, especially after years of loneliness and resentment, which leads into more frustration on his end. He is lost and confused, and understandably so.

Despite her pure intentions, Luna is unable to put herself in the shoes of a mortal, let alone a child. Which is why she doesn't involve herself unless absolutely necessary. She knows what's the best ending for everyone but can't allow herself to dictate how to reach it. She wants them to find it by themselves, and they should. However, the major flaw in her reasoning is to apply that way of thinking to every situation. But everyone's different. Everyone carries a different backpack and, most importantly, some need more guidance and help than others, and can't pull themselves out of a hole all on their own. And here, we are talking about a child whose sole purpose was to seek the love of parents who turned their back on him in an instant after forging him into a destiny for their own pride.

Lost his sight but could regain his vision. But the heart can be a traitor...

Ho much more do you need to break that boy you blue witch!?

Oh yeah.. that will win him over.. shes a brilliant strategist XD

If I've learned anything in these stories, wait and see before passing too judgement. This does seem like a dick move, perhaps it is as Luna certainly feels it's harsh... but the Tree doesn't just do things for lulz. Gonna see how it plays out a bit more than go for knee-jerk reactions.

I am both surprised Luna can do that, and that Nigel got that as a punishment.

What an evil bitch.

No, she isn't. Evil people don't regret their actions.

Emotional Damage.
The Ass wooping he needs.

Going blind can be a heart-opening experience. Just ask St. Paul of Tarsus.

My moneys on him going to the evil man and fucking up the system

That's all? Blindness? He has those massive floppy ears and you think taking away his sense of vision is going to make a point. I was expecting a hallucination of how his parents died or a God of War 3 style inner journey moment. Not something this plain.

get Arya'd lmao

Well damn wtf

Well, that's one way to create a villain.

Yep. Don't care if she can see 30 steps ahead. Really don't care what her intentions are or if she's a god- blinding someone is outright cruel and unusual punishment. How is this going to help Nigel become a better person?

She literally apologized for screwing things up recently but this? This god is by far the worst character in this series and I do not see any reason her actions are valid. If it was to outright punish Nigel and we knew her personality was 'a harsh god' ok, sure. But all her actions and her beliefs are so backwards when it comes to the execution of her actions.

REALLY don't see this playing out well at all or in favor of her. Nigel should just join the dark side, cause really stupid of her to do. No good can come of this. Ruined the kid's poor life now blinds him to 'help him see inside himself'. Lol sure ...

Yeah, like a normal person would just hate her to the infinite after that

That's a yikes for me, dawg.

Ok... I'm starting to suspect Luna of being totally responsible for creating quite a few problems in the story...
-"Nigel I'm going to open your eyes by making you blind... No, but it sounds stupid, but if you think about it calmly it totally is"

Wow. Although I too don't get why she blinded him, that's a LOT of hate down there in the comments, with one person even calling her a bitch? Damn. A lot of other insults as well.

Has no one thought for a moment that she's a goddess, and can probably understand more than she lets on? She's constantly telling Nigel he was missing 'something'; ever wonder why she didn't just come right out and tell him 'This is your problem and here's how you can fix it.'? Gods almost NEVER directly tell you ANYTHING, because then you learn nothing, or come to depend on them too much and stop thinking, and in this case, FEELING. She blinded him for a reason, and as horrible as that might seem, it will probably pan out in the end in his favor. Also, he'll probably regain that sight, or another better way of 'seeing' once he gets past all the hatred and anger.

If you look at it another way, think of yourself when you decide to hate something unequivocally, or when you're completely furious, aka 'blinded by rage'. You tend to stop thinking and only act, no matter how wrong that act is, and it's only once you get past that point that you can 'see' again. This feels like a metaphor for that concept.

Gods also tend to be WRONG but they mask it with vague wording with flowery phrases to come off as wise, as if you were given a riddle that you must solve and you will be enlightened. She might have had the right idea of helping but her solution was clearly harmful to Nigel who clearly hates her with a burning passion (and since the guy's entire life fell to pieces, can't really blame him).
Gods aren't always all-knowing, all-seeing and what have you, but they sure love to make mortals think they are, and I get the feeling her actions will have consequences she won't like.

It's true gods can be wrong, but I still feel the reaction to her actions *before seeing any of the results that the creator of the comic has in store* are pretty harsh. I personally find the concept of being blind terrifying. But why did she do it? No one knows, but the judgement laid down is instant and extreme. She seems to be suggesting he's still going to have some way of seeing, even without his eyes, which at least to me suggests her plan doesn't include him stumbling around without sight for the rest of his life, or sitting on a street corner as a beggar; just some kind of test that he has to pass to gain that new sight.

I still also feel we still don't really know what it was that disqualified him to be a knight, which caused all his troubles. Everyone is blaming her for him lacking that thing, but it's not her fault his parents discarded him, is it? Or should she just have made him a knight despite his problems? It all feels like a rush to judgement against this one character.

Why would she admit to making a mistake when he was a child if she was able to see so far into the future?

She admitted to being wrong.. that means she is not infalable and that her plans can and do backfire.

And she is in large part responsible for this miserable life he had to lead. Theres no ifs or buts about it.

You are giving her to much credit simply because she is a "god"... whatever this means in this world because aparantly the gods are very mortal. At this point the "gods" apear to be more akin to really powerfull wizards then anything else. You can injure them.. you can kill them.. they can even have offspring with mortals (water god remember?)

Honestly.. i dont believe for a second that any of them have this "godly foresight" that everyone attributes to them... none of the other gods displayed any of it.. and Luna sure as hell hasnt.

That being said: Starting to haul insults at a fictional character... yeah people should chill out a bit ^^

I'm not thinking she is omniscient or infallible. I'm not trying to say she can see all possible futures. Just that, being who she is, she most likely has some idea what she's doing, and isn't just being nasty to Nigel for no reason. I also think these reactions are extremely premature, since we have no idea what else might be going to happen as a result of this. This was a 'shock' panel; it feels like it was meant to stir up all the readers. But instead it just brought out an disappointing amount of hate for one of the central characters.

'God' in this sense is that she is one of the driving creative forces of that world. As to them dying, remember they're dying to Chaos, who is also a 'God' by that measure. As for having children with mortals... look up Zeus sometime. xD

But as for her ruining his life? ...No. She denied him as a knight because he was lacking something required to BE a knight. If she had made him one from the start, what would have happened then? I think she said he lacks the true intention to help others? It makes me think that if he had been made a knight, he would have bailed on a lot of people who needed him, including his fellow knights.

I'm also really confused about no one assigning the blame to his parents. She might have denied him, but they didn't need to basically treat him like he didn't exist because if it, and could have at least let him try once more, or spoke to Luna themselves about what he was lacking, then tried to teach him that thing. Instead, they tossed him aside. THAT was what ruined his life far more than anything else, but everyone is assigning that to Luna, and seemingly to her alone. Considering her only other option would have been to give him a title and position he wasn't fit for, what should she have done? I don't feel like she could have forced his parents to act differently either.

to be honest, i dont see the problem in not making him a knight anyway.

look at most jobs in engineering or science or even peacekeeping . do you need a vocation to actually do the job well ? you can be absolutely selfish and yet do a good job that benefits others. even save lifes even though you wouldn't give a rat's ass about it. if he got the sense of duty, whatever ?

people do assign blame to the parents, but also to her for doing nothing to correct the parents, thus making it seem as if they were 100% in the right.
his parents do get some blame, but so does she.

Damn

And that's what we call a godly fuck up, Nigel was already a broken man this will do nothing but push him further down the road. Can't wait to see her shocked face when Nigel gets chaos corrupted.

Nigel was always going to be a villain. :( Hello Oranges...

The comments are fucking going at it today lol

Also people like 'gods are wrong sometimes'
My guy
This is a carefully crafted story not some folk tale. Just because you don't know what's happening doesn't mean the AUTHOR doesn't know what's happening.

You can dislike Luna all you want but at least trust Viktria in that they know what they're doing! With their own characters no less! The flames in the comments towards Luna are so embarrassing like man.

Feels like I'm seeing alot of Nigel's alt accounts spitting on Luna in the comments, aka "aged-but-not-grown-up" kids.

"You no like a character, therefore you a child who don't know shit!"
OK, wanker.

man shut the fuck up you're so embarrassing

Well that lesson probably will at first backfire.

I assume this is suppose to make him more relient on others to get him to be more empthetic to them with interaction.

But Nigel doesn't seem to have the connections to others in life to make that work. Abandoned by his parents as a child. Abandoned by society as a whole while a child to smolder in his situation and grow up to be a grouchy stringbean of a person.

Actually, now that I think about it, did Nigel grow up from a maturity standing point at all after he was abandoned by his parents?

I absolutely adore that the Tree of Life does all the classic fantasy tropes, like giving the hero a huge setback to "make them stronger in the end" but this shows the reality of how stuff like this would actually turn out. Beautifully written and executed.

Ha ha ha ha!

My goodness, so much hate and bile for Luna! Ha ha ha ha! Oh man, this is good stuff.

Lemma ask y'all somethin, cause y'all are seriously missing somethin...

How did this turn out for Arya Stark?

HAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

With Arya loosing most of her family either because they where killed or exiled? Having to go through a war that wiped out countless innocent lives?

I mean we the audience where entertained but if you think about it from their perspective.. i think they would have liked not to go through all of that stuff XD

Well yes, of course. But remember, Arya met the Faceless Men *after* everyone in her family, other than Bran, Sansa and John, were already dead. And once she completed her training with Jaqen H'ghar, she not only avenged her entire family's murder, she saved the entire world by killing the Night King.

She would never have been able to do that if she'd been blinded by her own anger.

Are you seriously comparing Viktria writing to the last 2 seasons of Game of Thrones.

That is a special kind of insult to hurl at the Comic’s Authors
No artist deserves to be compared to that (except maybe terrible sonic fanfic writers)

*shrugs* Whatever.

I mean, the story of the Path of Suffering To Enlightenment is as old as humanity itself. GRR Martin, JRR Tolkein, Moses, Siddhartha Gautama, Sîn-lēqi-unninni? Take your pick, it's all the same story, all the same characters.

There's nothing new under the sun.

Anyone who gets their whiskers in a bind over the comparison deserves to have their whiskers in a bind.

I was not aware that JRR Tolkien wrote political drama, which is a shame since Im a fan of political drama’s like romance of the three kingdoms.

I am also a avid reader of cosmic horror, if you are familiar with the works of h.p.Lovecraft can you tell which character archetype he wrote that is the most similar to Arya Stark?

The entire book "The Hobbit" is Tolkien trying to reconcile the horrors he experienced in WWI, which is about as political as it gets. But to be more specific, the dwarf-elf relationship can easily stand in for British-French relations, with the humans representing the Americans, the orcs the Germans, and the goblins the Turks.

And once you get into the The Silmarillion and later books, it's almost entirely politics, only between the Valar and Maiar.

As for Lovecraft, nobody he wrote about is similar to Arya Stark. There were no heroes in his writing, only those who were dead, those about to die and those who wished they were dead.

That is very interesting to know, I’ll have to keep that in mind if and when I get around to reading Tolkien’s work

I am probably going to enjoy the Silmarillion and his later works, if what your telling me is true

That is unfortunate as I found Arya Stark to be one of the more compelling character to read about, then again I say that for a lot of the cast in A song of Ice and Fire. (The last 2 seasons of game of thrones really did the series dirty)

Definitely start off with The Hobbit. It's *very* enjoyable, and the movie is...reasonably true to the book. Not that this harms the movie in any way, it's just there were editorial decisions made for length and practicality.

The Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King are also very good, but Tolkien gets much more verbose in those books. It's quipped that he takes an entire page to describe a hill. I don't consider this to be a flaw, because his writing is just that good? But it *is* lengthy.

The editorial decisions are also much more apparent in the movies, such as Tom Bombadil in the book, but absent in the movie. That was a bit of a sore point with many fans, but adding him would have cost a fortune and added an additional hour of screen time. And the avoided him neatly, with no conflict in the film, so it's all good.

You'll want to read the Hobbit, then the three ring books before reading The Silmarillion. Granted The Silmarillion is about the origins of Middle Earth and the many deities and powers that inhabit it? But it's better to be introduced to the world by it's mortal characters, and then paying a visit to the gods.

And yes, the HBO series felt dirty. Rushed, pushed and stretched too hard.

Who gives a shit how something turned out for a character of a completely different setting, wanker?

My my my, you are just a bundle of sweetness and joy, aren't you.

OK, wanker.

Don't you have a Vauxhall Corsa to be modding?

How ironic is this? He was so blinded by hate, rage, anger, and pettiness he literally became blind. Well, that's what eventually happens when you let hate guide you. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. The path to the darkside of the force.

Take away from a person everything that he had, and he will say “thank you” to you and also ask you to make him an invalid. Of course Nigel will be angry. He needed to be comforted and supported. The moon could well give him a new home, but chose to be passive.

Well, that was unexpected...


congratulations for making the most talked about comic on F.A. Wow.

Not the hero we need but the villain story we now want.

I don't know Luna. I think that maybe, possibly, it might be a little late to send Nigel off on The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath. Seeing as, I don't know, Rah-Jan is likely leading an army to your location as we speak! Even if this tactic 'opens his eyes' there's no guarantee he'll be able to open them in time to be of any use. But, if this goes the way most fantasy RPG's go, he'll come around and help save the day just in time.

Nigel has more reason to hate than to empathize and sympathize. The moon is lazy, she again bets that events will decide themselves - a miracle will not happen, Nigel will become another minion of chaos through her fault.

ah, but you're forgetting: this is fiction, so the author can just write that a miracle does happen and it works out ;)

The Tree is the equivalent of that one annoying kid ruining a project and still claiming they're "helping"

oh wow that is shocking, i can see she's trying to help but that must be quite traumatic for nigel ... it very well could have the opposite effect if this is a long term thing >.> ... excited to see where this goes!

Im engrossed don't get me wrong but this feels like a "Trying to slap a person out of a panic attack" type moment. Now to anxiously wait for the next page :3

The Goddess is a very strange person. Nigel was thrown out into the street, he lost his family. What will he be if not angry at the world. And now she's causing even more problems for the poor thing. She is lazy. Evil in her naivete.

As if he didnt hate her before hahaha

Ah yes, the good old "Whoops I Made My Own Arch-Nemesis" approach to discipline. Never fails. Ever.

Gods gonna god, I guess

Jesus she just doesn't know when to stop screwing him XD

She was cruel to him, no matter how much he hated everyone and everything afterwards....

Mmmm I know this comic has adult themes so I hold out hope he stabs her in turn or something.
She suffers no consequences for her actions.