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As the eldest child, when I lived at home I was pretty much Victor, a bit of a killjoy, a bit of a snitch at times (not all the time) and generally a suck up, its how I got validation I guess. It was my job to keep my sisters inline or I'd be on the chopping block. If they did something 'wrong' it would be me that was punished, so it was in my interest to obey and do what I was told. It was my job to look after my sisters and often it would be me problem solving to fix situations without my parents knowledge, knowing that if they found out about stuff it would be me that was gonna get punished, so it kinda worked both ways and was a bit of a balancing act of sometimes snitching on mundane stuff and sometimes trying to resolve situations without parents getting involved (because that always complicated things)
The moment I left home obviously I could suddenly start living without any of that, and it took years for me to understand who I was outside of that role. I think I kinda wanna defend victor a little bit...but not very much. He's in his 30's now, everyones left home and still seems to be carrying that role around with him, hasnt figured out who he is without that role. I think he needs therapy.
If you wanna read up a little about Victor, you can do so on this ancient submission here https://www.furaffinity.net/view/33776167/
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As the eldest child, when I lived at home I was pretty much Victor, a bit of a killjoy, a bit of a snitch at times (not all the time) and generally a suck up, its how I got validation I guess. It was my job to keep my sisters inline or I'd be on the chopping block. If they did something 'wrong' it would be me that was punished, so it was in my interest to obey and do what I was told. It was my job to look after my sisters and often it would be me problem solving to fix situations without my parents knowledge, knowing that if they found out about stuff it would be me that was gonna get punished, so it kinda worked both ways and was a bit of a balancing act of sometimes snitching on mundane stuff and sometimes trying to resolve situations without parents getting involved (because that always complicated things)
The moment I left home obviously I could suddenly start living without any of that, and it took years for me to understand who I was outside of that role. I think I kinda wanna defend victor a little bit...but not very much. He's in his 30's now, everyones left home and still seems to be carrying that role around with him, hasnt figured out who he is without that role. I think he needs therapy.
If you wanna read up a little about Victor, you can do so on this ancient submission here https://www.furaffinity.net/view/33776167/
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I kindof see it this way now. Over 18. Who Cares about if it hurts family honor or not. Its Your Life. YOU Live it HOW YOU WANT. Not how THEY want. Your LIFE, NOT THEIR LIFE.
Your over 18, Living on your own now, You can make your own Choices. So if they want to Disown me cause of wearing Paddings. Well that is THEIR Problem then and Only Harming THEMSELVES ONLY. Not You.
Your over 18, Living on your own now, You can make your own Choices. So if they want to Disown me cause of wearing Paddings. Well that is THEIR Problem then and Only Harming THEMSELVES ONLY. Not You.
$H1T still happens... In an age where small majorities of kids are put through the wringer of judgement by a mass minority of abusive narcissistic "parents" and arrogant heretics hell-bent on control by extreme emotional manipulation, this trend of back-asswards ignorance and self-righteous pomposity will continue to stain the people of today and many of society's less fortunate minds for decades to come.
It's never gonna stop... the victim-blaming, blame-shifting, shaming... it's never gonna stop...
It's never gonna stop... the victim-blaming, blame-shifting, shaming... it's never gonna stop...
Yeah! You tell 'em Star! If they care more about their reputation instead of the charity, then they aren't worth the time to be upset by (this is based on their perspective seeing this just as an event thing nothing more, all they know is this is a charity but they still act like reputation is more important). But I know pushing beyond barriers like this can leave one emotionally shattered, so please have some people to support you when you come down from this burst!
That pose and expression of his in panel 4 is so poignant for the reader. It just screams someone so desperate for his father's approval after years of abuse that he would destroy another sibling's relationship with the family to get it, knowing full well that this has happened to the family before. One day his father will be gone, but this dishonour will remain forever on him.
The whole Bryce family has been abused by him; as is the way in a family with an abusive person — even the golden child is abused, even if the image of such abuse looks different than we oft think of as abuse
The thing that is the issue here is that Victor is now in his 30s and he is still perpetuatin the abuse; he has gladly taken on the role of bein an abuser, as his father was before him. Yes he did such as a response to abuse and thats valid and worth aknowledgin, but it doesnt excuse his actions and his refusal to change once not under the lock and key of the abuser
The thing that is the issue here is that Victor is now in his 30s and he is still perpetuatin the abuse; he has gladly taken on the role of bein an abuser, as his father was before him. Yes he did such as a response to abuse and thats valid and worth aknowledgin, but it doesnt excuse his actions and his refusal to change once not under the lock and key of the abuser
daddy's lap dog's maybe wrong wording but what do's he want brainless following lap dogs that follow every order if he barks at them Odin sake he has lost everything in te mind and disgrace of te family name that's a lot horse shite he has no status of rich or power
Yeah, this is tough. I mean he's a grown man, he can make his own decisions so it's not fair to take all the blame off him, but in his mind, I imagine he doesn't feel like he has a choice here. All the talk of 'how this will look for the family' and such are words that've probably been drilled into his head since before he even understood them. His last line in the 6th panel sounds like his life experience as the oldest sibling, being told he's selfish not for being selfish but for doing anything his father disapproved of, so he can't help but see it as selfish when anyone else does the same.
Is he being an asshole right now? Yeah of course. But I dunno if I peg him as an asshole from this. Seems more like he just got his ears chewed off by Dad after finding the flyer. And in his life, the only way he's ever known how to deal with that is to pass it on down the chain. He needs help, a place to have a life out from under his dad's thumb. But if he's about to make a scene at a charity event... well quicker and more direct ways of making him get a clue are probably appropriate for the moment heh.
Much less important sidenote, asshole or not, love his outfit! heh.
Is he being an asshole right now? Yeah of course. But I dunno if I peg him as an asshole from this. Seems more like he just got his ears chewed off by Dad after finding the flyer. And in his life, the only way he's ever known how to deal with that is to pass it on down the chain. He needs help, a place to have a life out from under his dad's thumb. But if he's about to make a scene at a charity event... well quicker and more direct ways of making him get a clue are probably appropriate for the moment heh.
Much less important sidenote, asshole or not, love his outfit! heh.
Ya think the Bryce familys dads dad wasnt raisin him the same way he raised his kids? Or at least, same enuf of the same way, still perpetuatin the abusive generational cycle
This is how abuse happens more oft than not, familal cycles passed from parent to child, where theres oft one or a few children who are molded specifically in the abusive model of their parent; oft the golden child, but not always
Victor was raised to be abusive like his father was raised to be abusive; that doesnt justify anythin or make it any less valid to call out and combat his abusive ways all the same — if anythin, quite the opposite
This is what abuse looks like, more oft than not
This is how abuse happens more oft than not, familal cycles passed from parent to child, where theres oft one or a few children who are molded specifically in the abusive model of their parent; oft the golden child, but not always
Victor was raised to be abusive like his father was raised to be abusive; that doesnt justify anythin or make it any less valid to call out and combat his abusive ways all the same — if anythin, quite the opposite
This is what abuse looks like, more oft than not
Do it! Get 'im!
Also, yeah, I am... unique in that me and my brother are 20 years apart and that my relationship with him is more parental than sibling. Weirdly enough I keep writing regressive stories about basically role reversal... Psychologically I understand why, but I guess it is kinda weird.
Also, yeah, I am... unique in that me and my brother are 20 years apart and that my relationship with him is more parental than sibling. Weirdly enough I keep writing regressive stories about basically role reversal... Psychologically I understand why, but I guess it is kinda weird.
Trying to guilt someone for making the best of a bad situation that was entirely out of their control to begin with? Stomping all over something that someone loves for no reason beyond “FaTHer dOEsN’t LiKE it,” when it’s something you didn’t even need to drag into the open anyway?
You get the impression that Victor is definitely someone whose entire upbringing was one where he was taught that Father’s approval is the most important thing to achieve.
If he wants to defend his family’s reputation, by coming here all he’s done is sully it.
You get the impression that Victor is definitely someone whose entire upbringing was one where he was taught that Father’s approval is the most important thing to achieve.
If he wants to defend his family’s reputation, by coming here all he’s done is sully it.
Oh hold a minute Temu Harry Potter!! Ok! First of all. Duck you. No! That wasn’t auto correct. I’m just aware that we have babies in the audience. Second! What purpose do you get from telling Peter. He realistically doesn’t need to know about this event. Now your being a suck up and only looking for trouble. Also, Star being selfish brat?? Do you even know what selfish means? Here I’ll help you out. This is from the Oxford Dictionary. Selfish: (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure. What Star is doing is the complete opposite of selfish. She’s being selfless. You are the one being the selfish brat for going to Peter and for beating up Star for it. What she is doing is for charity. This would probably strengthen the family name cuz of Star doing something so embarrassing in public view. Just for the benefit of kids in need. I know she was blackmailed into this but no one knows that except Marellis, Yuri, and Star’s friends. You sir only care about yourself and the “family” and don’t care about the good this is accumulating. Now how about you take you magical broom and shove it up your arse (Pardon my French) and fly back to Hogwarts or wherever you came from. I bid you good day!
While I understand where Victor is coming from since he’s the oldest sibling and feels it’s his responsibility to watch out for his younger siblings, I also feel bad for him since his father didn’t give him much a childhood and was practically raised like a soldier to defend his family’s name. If I had a father who wanted me to be like a soldier and stripped away my childhood, I would be in Star’s shoes and try to find out who I am inside. I’m proud that Star is gaining the courage to speak up for herself and make her own decisions instead of submitting to her oldest brother’s father-like attitude.
This hit hard. Had things been inverted and our sister was the first to go down the weird rabbit hole we would have definitely been A Victor, that desire to protect someone we don't even really know anymore from their own choices is hard to let go of when that was the "love" that was modeled. We've experienced a lot of judgement for just how vulnerable we've made ourselves by being so openly outside of what's safe, but standing up relentlessly and emphasizing that love is not the same as blind obedience and, most importantly, being happy is what matters most, has softened the sort of...death of what our family knew us as. Folks will resort to the nastiest, pettiest behavior if what they think they're dealing with is the ghost of who they used to love, but it's possible to prove that you can be happy even without what they think is love.
Hawwww how sweet. A dysfunctional family.. haven't seen that in a while. Tell him baby. If it makes you happy... seriously even mom, dad and rest of the family are also.. just people with there own problems and issues. Step out of it. Stand up your your right, that you like being a ABDL/DL
Proud of you.
*and mic drop*
Love how instead of validating his tattling and breaking down Star just acknowledges and shuts down any invitation for furthering this dialogue.
Victor. It is hard to sympathize with him here. Like he's the villain at the moment, and it seems all he cares about is shutting his sister down. Ignoring that it is a thing for charity... Just focusing on the namesake and all the "weight" it carries. Comes off so arrogant and just ugh I love to hate him...
As you mentioned in your writing you were responsible for the wrongs of your younger siblings. It would be your fault if things went awry.
I'm guessing years of being the eldest child has put an unfortunate pressure on Victor that has led him to be this way. He's only doing what he thinks is correct. Guess I feel a bit sorry for him.
*and mic drop*
Love how instead of validating his tattling and breaking down Star just acknowledges and shuts down any invitation for furthering this dialogue.
Victor. It is hard to sympathize with him here. Like he's the villain at the moment, and it seems all he cares about is shutting his sister down. Ignoring that it is a thing for charity... Just focusing on the namesake and all the "weight" it carries. Comes off so arrogant and just ugh I love to hate him...
As you mentioned in your writing you were responsible for the wrongs of your younger siblings. It would be your fault if things went awry.
I'm guessing years of being the eldest child has put an unfortunate pressure on Victor that has led him to be this way. He's only doing what he thinks is correct. Guess I feel a bit sorry for him.
Star needs to be ready for her dad cause I think he is going to blow his top even if she tells him it’s for charity and if he somehow finds the clip with her at the little party then he might start swinging. He will need to come to terms that his kids are adults now and can think for themselves and not always following orders or else he might be left all alone.
I remember once getting in deep trouble for "embarassing" my demon of a mother, because I had bare feet in the school play.
Even thought I was 17 and was the "free spirited hippie" in the wife characters head. I did everything right and literally no one but her cared.
Star is literally raising money for charity, grieving and worrying for her lost brother, and trying to cope with the fact that her own family are either enabling her dad's abuse or agreeing with it.
I'll never get how some family have next to no self awareness or empathy.
Even thought I was 17 and was the "free spirited hippie" in the wife characters head. I did everything right and literally no one but her cared.
Star is literally raising money for charity, grieving and worrying for her lost brother, and trying to cope with the fact that her own family are either enabling her dad's abuse or agreeing with it.
I'll never get how some family have next to no self awareness or empathy.
Honestly, he doesn't garner much sympathy here, given that went out of his way to tattle on her. Had he just waited for the old man to find out and then just played dumb afterwards, the "I had no choice" claim might've carried more weight.
The fact that he chose to sell her out unprompted instead paints him as less of "an abuse victim" and more of "the favorite who maintains his status by undermining his siblings to prevent them from possibly becoming competition for the title".
(That's the vibe I got, at least.)
The fact that he chose to sell her out unprompted instead paints him as less of "an abuse victim" and more of "the favorite who maintains his status by undermining his siblings to prevent them from possibly becoming competition for the title".
(That's the vibe I got, at least.)
Also, at the risk of being a tad selfish here...
...are future pages gonna make me regret portraying these guys positively/heroically in my headcanons (like what happened with a certain folf in your previous work)? Or is it still okay for me to hold out hope that they might yet redeem themselves?
...are future pages gonna make me regret portraying these guys positively/heroically in my headcanons (like what happened with a certain folf in your previous work)? Or is it still okay for me to hold out hope that they might yet redeem themselves?
I really hope she just cuts off her family at some point. Her dad is an abusive prick. Her mom enabled the abuse. Her older brother is clearly abusive prick junior. Hopefully this is the beginning of her telling them all to go kick rocks or at least establishing boundaries. She deserves so much better.
There's an interesting take of suggesting that a character whom is admittedly a self-insert of a role you used to play, needs therapy while you've been studying and learning about just that and yourself.
That's in a very circuitous way saying that this was one of the aspects of yourself that you had to learn about and work on during the course of your studies.
That's in a very circuitous way saying that this was one of the aspects of yourself that you had to learn about and work on during the course of your studies.
well i'm the young brother of my family... don't worry if you don't want punch him but i really want punch his face i really really really want punch his face (sorry my bad english but... bueno si, soy un hermano menor, tengo todo el derecho de desafiar a un hermano mayor pese a que se que perdere brutalmente XD)
edit like extra: entiendo que tengas empatia por el, pero a mis ojos, tu no eres el y no necesitas preocuparte mucho por ello, es un personaje, entiendo que uses algo de ti para interpretarlo, pero no creo que todos los hermanos mayores sean iguales, todo depende de la crianza y de los padres y como vean a los hijos y el rol del hermano mayor, seguro hay padres que dejan que los hermanos mayores sigan siendo niños en lugar de cargarles con responsabilidades que en otras situaciones no los cargarian
edit like extra: entiendo que tengas empatia por el, pero a mis ojos, tu no eres el y no necesitas preocuparte mucho por ello, es un personaje, entiendo que uses algo de ti para interpretarlo, pero no creo que todos los hermanos mayores sean iguales, todo depende de la crianza y de los padres y como vean a los hijos y el rol del hermano mayor, seguro hay padres que dejan que los hermanos mayores sigan siendo niños en lugar de cargarles con responsabilidades que en otras situaciones no los cargarian
I just thought of something
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/52983921/
Their mum already knew, didn't tell their dad about it. Maybe he's lying to get Star to panic, or mum played innocent when (if) he brought it up?
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/52983921/
Their mum already knew, didn't tell their dad about it. Maybe he's lying to get Star to panic, or mum played innocent when (if) he brought it up?
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