I KNEW this is postapocaliptic world! The hints were there.

i am a but curious, wich hints were in the comic? owo

I mean, the burger was less a "hint" and more a "big flashing neon sign."

Where? I didn't notice anything that hinted this being a post human apocalypse world

In one page Luna makes Hamburger saying it's ancient recipe. On other we see moon shattered to pieces. Plus main villain gives me some "traumatised survivor" vibes tho its just my personal feelings.

>Plus main villain gives me some "traumatised survivor" vibes tho its just my personal feelings.

So, are you saying that Rah'Jan could be former human or entity created by humans? Thats both funny and kinda sad theory

He and Luna were both scientists and furries by heart so they wanted to create world full of furries but something went both right and wrong

Heh, Luna have said "It's furry time" and furried all over planet X)

Humanity gotta human.

Cue the Angry monkey noises

furrys are better then we are XD

To be fair.. the others started it!

This hits too close to home.

Ah, now we go from Fantasy to Historical...

I kind of like the idea the end of the world was so complete that it's just... dead. Everything's dead. Restart life from scratch.

I admit I'm not a fan of the whole: "humans suck. We're so terrible and war-like, we destroy everything, etc" but eh, this is a fantasy story and I'm enjoying the ride so far.

I need to see my precious lizard monkey boye grow into his own

Yea... it's a really tired cliché/anti-human mentality

But as a fantasy this has been fine read, characters are entertaining.

Especially in Furry comics

Honestly, I feel there are far more creative ways to critique humanity than have humans all wake up one day and decide to wage a suicidal-onmicidal war against each other going against all logic and self-preservation instincts for the lolz.

I mean, I get it's an entrenched trope in the genre, but still.

What further makes it laughable is the fact that the story mentions we reached space-faring levels. That tends to suggest human settlements either around the planet or on other celestial bodies either in the solar system or even beyond. And you want to tell me literally everyone just decided to go murderhobo at once everywhere? My suspension of disbelief can handle so much.

i mean it can happend, no matter how big an empire is, it can collapse and so

Really? Everyone all at once decides to kill the other and there are no survivors at all? Do you hear your words how ridiculous they are?

maybe not everyone died, maybe it was a world war with super futuristic weapons that destroyed the earth and turned into a wasteland, and if there was space colonies those got destroyed too, there is also the posbility that yes there were space colonies who survived the war, saw that earth was a mess and decide to leave it for better undamaged planets, you could even asume that if the earth was the capital of the space empire it was the one who got the most damaged to the point it was unviable to fix it and so.

imagine it like a country getting its capital destroyed by a very nasty nuke and rebuilding the capital there and cleaning it would take so much times and resources (wich will be a valuable resource after a war) that is better just to rebuild elsewere and so.

There's nothing to suggest humanity was that advanced in space travel. By reaching the stars she likely means that they were in the same stage of space exploration we are in right now.
Plus if they did manage to set up any outposts on other planets in the solar system they would still require resources from Earth to survive long-term

You do know Earth isn't the only place one could get resources in the solar system right? Dare say Earth has the least amount.

Of course I know that but those resources are mostly raw minerals and while water does exist it's frozen. Everything will have to be processed which requires specialized equipment. And if it's processed on site then it gets even more tricky as space is not a perfect vacuum and breaking down and forging minerals requires specific conditions for it to work.
It's actually more effective to just mine materials from somewhere fairly close like the Moon then ship them back to Earth.
To make an already long comment from getting any longer.
No human space colony is going to be entirely self sufficient from Earth

I don't think that's what happened and that all humans were bad. Remember we are supposed to be viewing this oral tale through the lens of the characters of something that happened in the ancient past. And like most ancient tales the facts are likely not completely accurate.
The truth is it's more likely world war 3 popped off and the planet was trashed in the resulting nuclear holocaust

It's true, about oral tale thingy I mean. What if truth behind this is far more different? What if said humanity in comic actually created first "furry gods" (lol) and then it have gone into downhill from this point? After all one of ironic point that it is comic about human-like beings.

Yea... when I started reading this I knew exactly where it was headed. I wish for once the humies could go out in a much better way than they "un-alived themselves and the planet". Still not gonna really complain too hard though it's still a good story so far.

It's actually surprisingly depressingly easy for our species to pull off.
The fact that we've managed not to yet is a damned miracle

Same. It's such a lazy trope.

well now, my complaint isn't so much about the writing XD

I've been enjoying this comic so far! just an attitude I see in a lot of young folks and more progressive minded peeps, and especially furries, and I just feel it's a darn shame.

but again, was just a comment. not like, accusing the comic of doing that beyond reminding me of that mentality is all

What? I was complaining about writing, I was just talking about said trope.

I also am not a fan of the whole "fantasy world is actually post-apocalyptic future Earth" trope. It's always been kind of an ick to me. And it shows up in furry comics/indie fantasy worldbuilding a lot and it's unfortunate :/

I guess I really just strongly prefer my fantasy worlds to just be fantasy worlds. I don't know why there always has to be some connection to Earth in there.

Darn pesky humans

Wow. I mean, I'm not surprised by the fact that humanity destroyed itself, just dismayed that it's a semi-common set piece these days. (Especially given how that reflects on us as a society. ^-^')

These days? Try the past few years I'd say.

The trope of "anthro world is post-apocalyptic Earth where humans killed each other" goes back to at least the interwar period.

At least that was meant to be a then "reasonable" concern over another World War and its outcome. But by now it got really overdone and aside from being a lowhanging fruit to complain about humanity (same vein as the "humanity is a virus" crap that is said by toxic people the rest of humanity would be better without) it achieves nothing.

well now

I had an assumption this was a post human world or at least some kind of past civilization whether human, anthro, or something else. Now I look forward to seeing how this particular world came to be, whether human creations or there was legit magic and supernatural entities all along but humanity never discovered it, and these entities decided to repopulate the Earth after it healed since humanity fucked it up.

That leads to the next question. What does the main villain know our heroes don't? What does the Tree know? What do any of these Gods know? I look forward to the answers.

Hate to follow up with the other two comments and really this is a fantastic story. But I'm also of the tired sort when the backstory is a surprise human caused apocalypse. There's a chance this is a false story and not the "whole" truth but that also feels like a cope if that is indeed where this is going.

Still one thing to currently remember. These folks are going through a near apocalypse themselves thanks to Rajohn and the Chaos he spreads. I'm not apt to think this society is any better at this point.

can't wait for them to discover the perfectly preserved Winchester 1887 lever-action shotgun and box of shells that still fire after hundreds of thousands of years 😂

I wish I could like a comment. The only correct reaction to 'humans destroyed the world' is absurdity XD

The Human Condition can be quite the bitch -_-

Wonder if any technology still works, buried somewhere

I wonder if that was just this world or there human conlonies out there, she did theu rrach the stars.

Technically we have reached the stars now and we don't have interplanetary colonies yet. It's a hell of a lot harder to pull off than science fiction makes it seem the human body just isn't evolved to do well on any world besides Earth

"Beware the beast, Man, for he is the devil's pawn
Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, or lust, or greed
Ye he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land
Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours
Shun him, drive him back into his jungle lair,
for he is the harbinger of death."

But then humans are stooopid and eeevil then exploded themselves away, don't tempt me with a good outcome.

20 bucks this legend of dissing humans is going to be very hypocritical once we find out more about the Tree of life and how this chaos-plague got started.

Isn't that always the case though? There's always this shit talk over humans but the people that came after are no better.

Shit talking humans in general has become a cliché I've grown tired of.

Same.

The human cliché aside, if Earth was a dead world, would that mean Luna is an alien who came to seed the planet with life, probably from many places of the galaxy since there are so many different species present?

I guess we can only wait to find out what happened

Ever since that burger I've been wondering.

This explains so much

Yep! There it is, and always like being reminded of that great Tom Lehrer song 'We'll All Go Together When We Go'.

So long Mom I'm off to drop the bomb is another good one by him too 😂

Quite so, they were all pretty catchy.

Look I get some of us might have bad tendencies. but why is it popular to lump everyone together, and say humanity as a whole is bad? or like we don't deserve to be here just as much as anything else. this human hate stuff, just gets repetitive and awkward sometimes😅

Because writing nuance is "hard" (to be more accurate would disprove the whole narrative of "all humans bad") and then there are those who have a one track mind and can't be changed no matter what. Which ironically makes them the worse part of humanity while complaining about how bad humanity is.

i mean, if the world ends i dont think there is gonna be much diference between individuals, like, being good or evil will not matter if we got nuked, also look at polucion we do, yes there are good and bad people, but we as an species are basically killing the planet, take in account that we are the smartest animals on the plante and we understood the damage we do and dont care and can explain why the complains in a way

What do you mean we don't care? that's generalizing everyone, and technically insults those who have been actively trying to save the planet, and have been helping others for years. yes, there are bad apples in every race/religion/sexuality. but are you really going to say we are all just as bad, simply because we are human too? It's not our fault some of the higher-ups are doing bad things, or other citizens are committing some kind of atrocity or crime. that isn't fair to those who are genuinely doing nothing wrong.

ok lemme explain, i mean we do not care as species, idividuals do care but not the biggest ones, for example, people care and dont use plastics, avoid littering and promote recycling and thats nice, but mega corporations and private planes do so much pollution that is kinda pointless, same with wars, they are caused by few individuals in power and not by the mayority.

again is no the individual, its us as species, no matter how much we recycle and do our best, we still detroy forest, pollute the planet and will probably seflt destruct in a nuclear war if we dont change as a society a lot.

It's quite easy to generalize a people when you're looking at something that has happened so long ago

In the context of this comic, the story she is telling is of events, and I quote, "hundreds of thousands of years ago." It's ancient history or, more likely, basically myths and folklore with maybe a kernel of truth hidden in there somewhere. Multiple hundreds of thousands of years is a long time for a story to get twisted and facts to get obfuscated. So "rah, rah, humanity was all bad" could in this instance just be the end result of what is in essence a long, long, long-long-long (could probably add in a quite a few "longs" here) game of broken phone. xP

i didn't expect that honestly!

I thought this was a fictional story? No? Okay...continue

Cold war 2.0 wipes out humanity and commenters are saying how unrealistic it is
Like all of the EU is not increasing spending on the milatary after Ukraine
Not to mention how many times the cold war nearly went hot, with Nuclear launches moments away from happening

It's unrealistic to say all of humanity is like that, because it's not even remotely true🤷🏻‍♀️

And yet constantly throughout history we have had constant wars and shown unbelivable cruelty to our fellows
In the 20thC they got to the point of killing tens of millions, and even risking neclear armagedon, and we do still have nukes and we still do have wars and the EU powers are clearly worried a new one is about to break out due to them all rapidly increasing spending on defence.
It doesn't matter that not all people are like it, the leaders often are, and they are the ones that cause the issues for everyone and the ones who's choice could wipe out the world.

'Not all humans are bad' is a tired take, because it is stating the obvious based on a technicality while ignoring the reality of our history which has shown we are a violent and warlike species .

Look up how many years in our history we have not been in major conflicts
And thats ignoring small ones that will make the number 0
saying that our species as a whole is not warlike, because we do some cool stuff, is childish to the extreme and ignores the reality of our history and current day events,

And saying we as a whole are bad is even more tired. attempting to diminish the good we accomplished as well, only paints this as a dystopian miserable existence when we have and continue to do just as much good. nothing is ignored, we are aware of what some of those in power have done. what you have said does not dismiss my point of, "we as a whole are not bad". It only tries to downplay things, by in your own words ignoring the smaller moments of non-conflict. of course there are those in power who still cause problems and hardships for others. but again, humanity as a whole isn't bad.

Precisely it is my personal belief that the reason we have not yet formally encountered intelligent alien life is the fact we are under quarantine.
And if any of the close encounters some people have reported are real. They're likely part of a mission to monitor us

Exactly the highest likelihood of what region would pop off a nuclear exchange is actually Pakistan and India.
Barring that the device in Doctor strange Love is based on reality Russia really does have a Deadman switch signal controlling their nuclear arsenal.
You can actually listen to the signal broadcast online.
if it gets cut off after a certain amount of time then barring a human override Russia's arsenal will automatically launch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4WhCe9Ey4

Considering that I am a philosopher, as well as the fact that I possess quite a bit of basic knowledge about human nature, I must say that I have serious doubts about the story that Mira is telling here, as it does not seem to be the whole story. Nevertheless, I will wait for how the story ends before jumping to conclusions.

Aaaaah. So, I wasn't completely wrong in thinking the villain's lair was in Shuwa. And the Chaos is the daikaisho, if I'm right.

a soon to be future it seems...

Don't count on it.

Depressingly so

Бесплодная пустыня, радиоактивный пепел. А потом появились фурри.

Everyone complaining in the comments about 'ugh, another humans are bad and blew themselves up trope' need to realize their opinions don't really matter. Zummeng is telling the story THEY want to tell. This is not your story. This is Zummeng's story.

Is it a trope? Yeah. And its fine. But a fantasy story about talking animals doesn't have to be realistic. Nor is anything about ToL super unique despite being an overall good story. Not everything needs to break the mold or reinvent the wheel. Sometimes the tried and true tropes people like are good.

Who cares if they don't matter🤨 they're still allowed to be expressed anyway. and we're mostly talking to each other and not Zummeng, so I don't see the problem🤷🏻‍♀️ are we telling Zummeng to change the script for us? nope. only voicing our thoughts on the subject matter, like we're free to👍

You talking in the comments IS talking to Zummeng. You are commenting on their art and they are getting all these comments about people complaining about what they don't like. You are talking amongst yourselves on their art. If you were doing so in like, a different forum, or a discord, that would be one thing. But you are literally doing it on their art; you are talking to them.

Uh. that's not exactly the same as addressing Zummeng themselves though, but sure I guess🤷🏻‍♀️ yes we are chatting on Zummengs's post, but what does that matter? It was posted here, so this is where we're talking about it🤷🏻‍♀️ you can't expect every comment to be a positive one, and that's okay. it happens👍 the story already had divisive moments, and it's not like anyone here is bashing the artist for making them. we are simply voicing our opinions on the current events of the story. no more, no less👍

fuck yes!! LORE DUMP!

Not "entirely" accurate

Darn. We humans fucked up again and broke everything ;w;

We do have an unfortunate tendency to do that

:O I never guessed this??? holy shit- I. STARS. genuinely I didn't see this coming. Hnnn. I will be looking for The Signs when reading back now- this is so cool!!!!!!

So does this mean the treeoflife is also a History Man?

Taylor- you maniac you blew it up!

Well... Ow. I mean, it is-- unfortunately-- totally understandable. But...
Ow.

I just hope there are still some who remember that, even at our worst, there were always some humans who fought back against the insanity. They may have lost in the end in this story, but there were always those who fought back.

OH YEAH! Story time!!!
Also, cool stained glass illustrations.

Not adding to the hate, humanity does have one or two that end up messing things up for the rest. The idea we 'can't have nice things' in public as they frequently are defaced by the one odd fool or ignorant unsupervised teen/minor that ruins it.
Your art is wonderful and your worldbuilding is spot on. Looking forward to more!

Mankind Is Dead. Blood Is Fuel. Hell Is Full.

They tampered in God's domain...

WHAT

I don't really get the criticism calling "it was earth and humans all along" a cliché. In my opinion you can only levy that as a criticism if you know the full story, and we aren't near the end by a long shot.

Some of ya'll in the comments need to chill. Either read the story or don't.