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Been trying to explain car history to my coworkers
One owns a Fairlady 350z
I explained to her that her car is nothing new
and actually has a long history
Saw this on the way to work today
snapped a picture and showed it to her...
She was shocked.
slightly amazed.
So.
Have you ever done this before?
(alert some one of the history of their car)
Or
What history does YOUR car have?
Theoretically or realistically?
(or sentimentally?)
One owns a Fairlady 350z
I explained to her that her car is nothing new
and actually has a long history
Saw this on the way to work today
snapped a picture and showed it to her...
She was shocked.
slightly amazed.
So.
Have you ever done this before?
(alert some one of the history of their car)
Or
What history does YOUR car have?
Theoretically or realistically?
(or sentimentally?)
Category Photography / All
Species Unspecified / Any
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File Size 64.9 kB
had a friend (and I use that word loosely) that was hell bent on making me believe that he knew a guy that owned 3 of the only existing '79 Trans Am Kammbacks (station wagons). While the original site I got the info from no longer exists, it was stated that one is privately owned, one is in a museum and the other burned up in a fire. Then again, he was a pathological liar and said anything to make himself look good. I asked if they were replicas and he said 'no, they were factory cars'.
Link for more infos: http://www.wqik.net/kammback/index.htm
Link for more infos: http://www.wqik.net/kammback/index.htm
My dad had two 280z's both with chevy small block conversions. his first one was black and was stupid fast but the car itself was a hunk of junk, his second one grey, was Quick, not as fast but in alot better condition body and interior wise. he loved the car but the scarcety of parts and the lack of driving the car was just too much to keep it.
not long ago I spent some time and effort to explain some in terested guy the typology and generation predecessors/successors of european Fords, which can be hard to follow since some times they got completely reconstructed.
it's also interesting to note that many people, including those who should know better, peg the european 4cyl OHC the "Pinto-Engine", which is not true since the OHC used in Pinto, Mustang, Fairmont, and other US rides, is the same layout, but a good bit larger. thus, it's not the same engine...
it's also interesting to note that many people, including those who should know better, peg the european 4cyl OHC the "Pinto-Engine", which is not true since the OHC used in Pinto, Mustang, Fairmont, and other US rides, is the same layout, but a good bit larger. thus, it's not the same engine...
You mean the 2.3 Lima? Not only was it used in those, it was also used in the Mustang SVO, the Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, I think the Mustang II, the Mercury Capri, and the Merkur XTi. Turbocharged and naturally aspirated. Which 4 cyl are you talking about, the Duratec? Because there's a world of difference between the Duratec and the Lima. Like who produced it, for starters. Or do you mean the DOHC/Cosworth 2.3?
here we go...
what I mean is the original OHC. the european version, used in Taunus, Escort, Sierra, Granada/Consul, SCorpio, Transit, has been developed by Ford UK and produced both in england and germany.
I don't know where the US OHC was produced... they had a production line in Peru? funky.
the duratec is an all-new engine, and what used to fire germanys Sierras and Scorpios with a DOHC head was originally the old OHC, which displacement never grew above 1998ccm. if I recall right, anything above 2095ccm would have cut into the water channels.
the Cosworth was based first on the "Kent" OHV, later on the OHC, then they constructed their own engine.
what I mean is the original OHC. the european version, used in Taunus, Escort, Sierra, Granada/Consul, SCorpio, Transit, has been developed by Ford UK and produced both in england and germany.
I don't know where the US OHC was produced... they had a production line in Peru? funky.
the duratec is an all-new engine, and what used to fire germanys Sierras and Scorpios with a DOHC head was originally the old OHC, which displacement never grew above 1998ccm. if I recall right, anything above 2095ccm would have cut into the water channels.
the Cosworth was based first on the "Kent" OHV, later on the OHC, then they constructed their own engine.
I just am trying to figure out which one you're talking about. The 2.3 SOHC wasn't even in the Pinto, it used the 2.0 version. The 2.3 Lima (the US one you mentioned) was manufactured in Lima, Ohio, which is why it's referred to as the Lima engine. So is the Euro OHC you're referring to 2.0, or 2.3L? Or other?
The Cosworth engine that was used in the Sierra Cosworth RS was actually derived from the 2.0 OHC Pinto engine. Doesn't have much in common though, and is a totally new engine.
The Cosworth engine that was used in the Sierra Cosworth RS was actually derived from the 2.0 OHC Pinto engine. Doesn't have much in common though, and is a totally new engine.
the euro OHC came with displacements between 1.3 and 2.0 litres. it looks like the Lima engine, but is smaller. it has three camshaft bearings, while the Lima has four. or so I heard.
it was probably used in some versions of Capri and Sierra/Merkur imported to the US, and fired the standard versions of the argentinian Taunus.
it was probably used in some versions of Capri and Sierra/Merkur imported to the US, and fired the standard versions of the argentinian Taunus.
Ah! Okay, I know what you're talking about now. I came across a write up about that on either a Forum or one of the Ford SOHC performance parts people, like Racer Walsh or Esslinger somewhere.
I don't know which versions of the Merkur the US got besides the XTi that used the 2.3 Lima Turbo motor that was in the Mustang SVO...
At that time, pretty much the T-Bird, Mustang, and Capri all had the same basic platform so I guess the overlap only makes sense..
I don't know which versions of the Merkur the US got besides the XTi that used the 2.3 Lima Turbo motor that was in the Mustang SVO...
At that time, pretty much the T-Bird, Mustang, and Capri all had the same basic platform so I guess the overlap only makes sense..
it's a common mistake here in middle europe even from those who should know, because from the outside both engines look similar. I guess one would have to look closer to see immediate differences, or compare both blocks side by side.
I don't know either. germany had two-door and fourdoor sedan, and station wagon of the sierra. the XR4i had a different body with different side windows. from what I gather from various model cars it's the same body as the Merkur XT. the Sierra had never a turbo engine, the RS500 versions came with Cosworth-prepared engines, later with Cosworth's own constructions. they all were uncharged.
I heard the Mercury Capri was nothign but a badge engineering before they let the brand name die.
there was a lot of friction between Dearborn and Cologne. first about the Cardinal project, where they dropped the half-finished V-4 engine at Cologne's door. they finished it into some sturdy engine, and created a small, reliable V-6 out of it. later they had arguments about how much money was supposed to flow between the engines and imports and constrcutions and such. later, the Ford Capri stole buyers from Mustangs, so there was even more friction. I'm not sure if the Capri Mk3 was ever imported to the US? probably not, I've never seen one in any footage.
I don't know either. germany had two-door and fourdoor sedan, and station wagon of the sierra. the XR4i had a different body with different side windows. from what I gather from various model cars it's the same body as the Merkur XT. the Sierra had never a turbo engine, the RS500 versions came with Cosworth-prepared engines, later with Cosworth's own constructions. they all were uncharged.
I heard the Mercury Capri was nothign but a badge engineering before they let the brand name die.
there was a lot of friction between Dearborn and Cologne. first about the Cardinal project, where they dropped the half-finished V-4 engine at Cologne's door. they finished it into some sturdy engine, and created a small, reliable V-6 out of it. later they had arguments about how much money was supposed to flow between the engines and imports and constrcutions and such. later, the Ford Capri stole buyers from Mustangs, so there was even more friction. I'm not sure if the Capri Mk3 was ever imported to the US? probably not, I've never seen one in any footage.
After taking a closer look, I don't think the Merkur is truly a fox-body vehicle...it looks like it has more in common with the Sierra hatch/coupe. I'm not too sure if the Sierra is considered a fox body vehicle, I'm not as familiar with the European Fords, just know a little.
As for the Mercury Capri...the Mercury Capri in the second generation was the fox-body 'Stang with a few luxury goodies and slightly different body styling, similar to what they did later with the Thunderbird and Cougar. I don't know if it's really friction between Europe and American manufacturing as it is the market itself; back in those days, factory forced-induction was still somewhat in its infancy (as far as reliability goes; except Buick) in the US. US Ford tried a turbo four-cylinder in the Pinto and in the Mustang in the early years, but it was a carb'ed fuel delivery system (and something in my mind tells me draw-through, not blow-through but I could be mistaken) that was not very reliable in the eyes of most American buyers. Most of them wanted the tried-and-true naturally aspirated 302 or 351W if they wanted power (Also they're not very popular with the racer crowds here, because 2.3 performance parts are hard to find...I think the only real big names now are Esslinger and Racer Walsh and Boport.). In the case of the later Mustang, the SVO was more expensive than the GT for similar output and some upgrades. I know here, several people have forgotten the 2.3T Lima engine even exists. Everyone who owns a Pinto opts for a 302 swap or something else if they are rodding it.
As I said, I don't know as much about European Fords; I just remember my mom's first car was a Cortina and a few things about engines.
As for the Mercury Capri...the Mercury Capri in the second generation was the fox-body 'Stang with a few luxury goodies and slightly different body styling, similar to what they did later with the Thunderbird and Cougar. I don't know if it's really friction between Europe and American manufacturing as it is the market itself; back in those days, factory forced-induction was still somewhat in its infancy (as far as reliability goes; except Buick) in the US. US Ford tried a turbo four-cylinder in the Pinto and in the Mustang in the early years, but it was a carb'ed fuel delivery system (and something in my mind tells me draw-through, not blow-through but I could be mistaken) that was not very reliable in the eyes of most American buyers. Most of them wanted the tried-and-true naturally aspirated 302 or 351W if they wanted power (Also they're not very popular with the racer crowds here, because 2.3 performance parts are hard to find...I think the only real big names now are Esslinger and Racer Walsh and Boport.). In the case of the later Mustang, the SVO was more expensive than the GT for similar output and some upgrades. I know here, several people have forgotten the 2.3T Lima engine even exists. Everyone who owns a Pinto opts for a 302 swap or something else if they are rodding it.
As I said, I don't know as much about European Fords; I just remember my mom's first car was a Cortina and a few things about engines.
the sierra had a different platform; it was successed by the mondeo. the Sierra had independend rear suspension and McPherson in the front. after the Taunus/Cortina, which had a live rear axle and double-A fronst suspension, was dropped the Sierra was all-new except the OHC engines, three V-6, and two of the gearboxes.
Ford Argentina used the Taunus with some european OHC and the Lima engine for the GT/GTP versions. I have some old cars magazine from 1985 stating all new cars from that year from all over the world. and they still built the 1960 Falcon sedan with Granada headlights and Taunus Mk3-taillights... it was a menace!
Ford Argentina used the Taunus with some european OHC and the Lima engine for the GT/GTP versions. I have some old cars magazine from 1985 stating all new cars from that year from all over the world. and they still built the 1960 Falcon sedan with Granada headlights and Taunus Mk3-taillights... it was a menace!
You're right, the Merkur was not a Fox3 chassis. The Fox3 platform came about in '78 with with the Fairmont and really met the bulk of it's success being the foundation for '79-93 Fox3 Mustangs (and '94-98 SN95 and '99-04 New Edge models if you want to split hairs). I don't know when the Merkur chassis design was offered in Europe, but I do know it was offered in the U.S. from '85-89 with the German-designed, Ohio-built "Lima" 2.3 turbo.
Well I have my Lincoln Blackwood, of course made by Ford. Made one year, 2002, but there weren't many that were produced. I thought that the seller told us that only 500 were made, andI don't know the actual number. However, they are on the top ten list of "The Most Useless Cars" why? Only because the trucks have a carpet bed, lighting, and a metal lining that makes up the bed with four tie-down rings. The topper that is factory built and made onto the truck is automatic, and lifts up and down by the push of two buttons. Therefore, making the truck useless for hauling things, but then again it has it's luxury advantage from being a Lincoln, having heated and cooled seats, heated mirrors, and an Alpine brand stereo thrown into the mix. The tailgate is unique, instead of being how a normal tailgate is, it is like barn doors and opens up that way. The truck bed section is shown off in a eood-like fashion, with "black wood" panels and silver striping running around it. To top it all off, it has rear parking sensors, a disc-operated GPS, and a 5.4 Liter V8 engine. The engine is bigger than my step-father's 2001 Harley-Davidson Edition Ford F-150.
Now isn't this a car with a story :D
Want more info? If so, shout at me or note me, or respond to this comment! xD
Now isn't this a car with a story :D
Want more info? If so, shout at me or note me, or respond to this comment! xD
Sorry to respond so late, but I did happen to come across an article about them...
A site called TopSpeed:
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/lincol......html#comments
I say it is one of the most awesome cars I've ever seen before, and it's really nice on the inside! Take a look at the interior if there are pictures of the interior. I absolutely love it! If you would like a picture of it to post, I must wash it and clean it up first, it's in need of a nice wash :3
A site called TopSpeed:
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/lincol......html#comments
I say it is one of the most awesome cars I've ever seen before, and it's really nice on the inside! Take a look at the interior if there are pictures of the interior. I absolutely love it! If you would like a picture of it to post, I must wash it and clean it up first, it's in need of a nice wash :3
I have a 1994 Ford probe, which while I'm sure is a little more popular overseas (for some reason) but in Australia it is definitely more than uncommon! With only a small handful being in my state.
The previous owner of the car baught it as a wreck and fixed her up amazingly! And decided that, instead of a sexy black sleek car. Why not paint the hood rainbow?
I get so much attention on the streets xP
Being on my green P's (p2) I aint allowed any modded or v8 cars so this car is amazing because it's a sports car with a v6 engine, and also a ford <3
The previous owner of the car baught it as a wreck and fixed her up amazingly! And decided that, instead of a sexy black sleek car. Why not paint the hood rainbow?
I get so much attention on the streets xP
Being on my green P's (p2) I aint allowed any modded or v8 cars so this car is amazing because it's a sports car with a v6 engine, and also a ford <3
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