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3 years ago
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I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, SHADOW THE H--actually no, this is kinda serious, so. This is basically a rewrite of a thread from my Twitter account.
Any artists who are watching me, please beware of a customer by the name of "RoyhlHero," if he offers to take a commission from you; if he signs up to your Patreon; or ESPECIALLY if he is a bidder on an adoptable auction you're holding. The user in question had, and then deleted, an FA account sometime last month, purely to sell adoptables drawn by
sagestrike2, 
dewwydartz and I think a couple of others.
Over the past couple of days, this user has displayed a pattern of taking high-dollar commissions and adoptable auction wins, receiving the art as ordered, and then initiating a chargeback process on PayPal via his bank. In my case, it was for a 200 USD character sheet I did for him of a wolf character; for the other users, they were from adoptables purchased for in excess of 1,000 USD.
The customer ordered a character sheet for a wolf character on December 1, 2021, via Discord. It was based on a commission I had done for him a month or so prior of the same character, which has not been charged back. I started work on around the end of December, and proceeded to complete on January 4, 2022. After that, there was no communication with him, but I assumed all was fine, up until I was hit with a chargeback for the amount of the comm minus fees (around 192 USD) yesterday afternoon, at a time where I kind of didn't have 200 USD to spare. I had to take emergency comms, I might have to borrow money from my girlfriend and our roommate to have enough to pay all my bills for this month, and given the nature of the commission, it's fairly likely that, two-three months from now, the chargeback will resolve in the buyer's favor rather than mine.
His claim was that the bank did it automatically when his card was compromised, which I initially bought, but doesn't hold water, because the chargeback process has to be initiated by the buyer, and the bank then puts in the order on their behalf. I'd have been willing to accept this as an honest mistake had it not been for some digging I did this morning after speaking with a PayPal rep (in short, their hands are tied and they can only forward what I provide to them).
That was when I found out about sagestrike/DesertFox's incident, which makes two. Could be a coincidence, probably not.
And earlier this evening, I saw that this rash of chargebacks from the same user also hit Dewwydartz: https://twitter.com/Dewwydartz/stat.....75807059148805 - for two adoptables purchased recently (about a month ago if my internet searches are correct).
At this point, it seems like obvious, flagrant fraud. Given that, should he try and involve himself in any auctions - he seems to use commishes.com more than other services - you should not take his money, under any circumstances. Refund his Patreon backing, reject commissions, do a better job of vetting names that look unfamiliar than I did. I'm eating crow on this, you shouldn't have to do the same.
Though I compiled my personal logs for disputing the chargeback on PayPal, I intend to clean it up, add evidence as needed from other users should they consent, and submit it to whatever resources would be best for that thing - Artist Beware and etc. This abuse cannot be allowed to go on. As it is, I suspect he will drop off the internet more than he already has, but should he show back up using the same name, avoid him like the plague.
2/16/2022 EDIT: He also has charged back the original comm I did for him, bringing this to 255USD minus chargeback fees (probably 30-40 total when all is said and done).
Any artists who are watching me, please beware of a customer by the name of "RoyhlHero," if he offers to take a commission from you; if he signs up to your Patreon; or ESPECIALLY if he is a bidder on an adoptable auction you're holding. The user in question had, and then deleted, an FA account sometime last month, purely to sell adoptables drawn by
sagestrike2, 
dewwydartz and I think a couple of others.Over the past couple of days, this user has displayed a pattern of taking high-dollar commissions and adoptable auction wins, receiving the art as ordered, and then initiating a chargeback process on PayPal via his bank. In my case, it was for a 200 USD character sheet I did for him of a wolf character; for the other users, they were from adoptables purchased for in excess of 1,000 USD.
The customer ordered a character sheet for a wolf character on December 1, 2021, via Discord. It was based on a commission I had done for him a month or so prior of the same character, which has not been charged back. I started work on around the end of December, and proceeded to complete on January 4, 2022. After that, there was no communication with him, but I assumed all was fine, up until I was hit with a chargeback for the amount of the comm minus fees (around 192 USD) yesterday afternoon, at a time where I kind of didn't have 200 USD to spare. I had to take emergency comms, I might have to borrow money from my girlfriend and our roommate to have enough to pay all my bills for this month, and given the nature of the commission, it's fairly likely that, two-three months from now, the chargeback will resolve in the buyer's favor rather than mine.
His claim was that the bank did it automatically when his card was compromised, which I initially bought, but doesn't hold water, because the chargeback process has to be initiated by the buyer, and the bank then puts in the order on their behalf. I'd have been willing to accept this as an honest mistake had it not been for some digging I did this morning after speaking with a PayPal rep (in short, their hands are tied and they can only forward what I provide to them).
That was when I found out about sagestrike/DesertFox's incident, which makes two. Could be a coincidence, probably not.
And earlier this evening, I saw that this rash of chargebacks from the same user also hit Dewwydartz: https://twitter.com/Dewwydartz/stat.....75807059148805 - for two adoptables purchased recently (about a month ago if my internet searches are correct).
At this point, it seems like obvious, flagrant fraud. Given that, should he try and involve himself in any auctions - he seems to use commishes.com more than other services - you should not take his money, under any circumstances. Refund his Patreon backing, reject commissions, do a better job of vetting names that look unfamiliar than I did. I'm eating crow on this, you shouldn't have to do the same.
Though I compiled my personal logs for disputing the chargeback on PayPal, I intend to clean it up, add evidence as needed from other users should they consent, and submit it to whatever resources would be best for that thing - Artist Beware and etc. This abuse cannot be allowed to go on. As it is, I suspect he will drop off the internet more than he already has, but should he show back up using the same name, avoid him like the plague.
2/16/2022 EDIT: He also has charged back the original comm I did for him, bringing this to 255USD minus chargeback fees (probably 30-40 total when all is said and done).
Probably not a big enough amount to warrant, but seriously *FUCK* people like that...
Gotta love those selfish scamming fucks just sowing chaos and crap wherever they go.
Sending money to someone opens up more opportunities for a chargeback, whereas sending out an invoice for the cost of the commission (and I've also seen people make slight adjustments upward to account for PayPal fees) makes it much harder for someone to do that.
EDIT: I admittedly didn't do it in the case of the comm you asked for a couple weeks ago, mostly because you mentioned splitting it w/your friend! But mostly I avoid asking people to plop money into my paypal account w/o any record-keeping.